Happened to me lol. The experience was humiliating and frustrating. I probably won't go to a doctor again. After I got out of the hospital I met with a doctor and cardiologist to apply for an exception to the booster shot. Took months, and my app got bounced around because everyone was afraid of regulatory bodies.
Worst part should be laying in bed and feeling like I couldn't breath but I found the following stuff frustrating:
(1) When I went into the ER and explained my symptoms the nurse asked if I had just had my covid booster, and if it was Pfizer. They immediately knew what to do thank goodness but the doctor came in later to tell me why Pfizer is still good and whatnot. The language was really disrespectful though, almost like they blamed me for coming in.
(2) I went back to pick up my paperwork from the records office and it turns out that neither the adverse reaction report or anything else mentioning the vaccine had been filed. The attendant said I should still be able to get an exemption for my booster but the ARR was immediately asked for later on.
(3) The cardiologist I talked to said that the odds of a similar reaction to the booster were considerable, but that I could check myself into the hospital before getting the vaccine such that when I have problems breathing and my heart starts shaking there'd be nurses to administer something. That made me really upset since the heart constriction or whatever was quite painful and I wouldn't want to repeat it for the sake of "at risk groups".
I spent some time pressing the issue of the adverse reaction report, since the doctor had said explicitely and implicitely that my condition was caused by the vaccine, with a witness, no less. The answer was that they couldn't attribute it to an allergic reaction or whatever else to the pfizer vaccine (myo/ pericarditis are apparently caused by an autoimmune reaction of sorts or something) since in my file they had noted that I used to be allergic to a type of tropical fruit and that maybe I had eaten it without knowing before I started seeing symptoms?
Oh yeah they are the fricking worse, its like their critical thinking skills get tossed out the window. Had one doctor who wanted to get a booster shot and he strait up said to me "everyone at the hospital and their families keep getting covid and they all have been vaccinated, so i figured i should get a booster." Had another who strait up said he got myocarditas from "covid" last year even though hes only 34. oh and this is the worst one I knew some one who breifly worked at a clinic and every time someone came in with a heart problem after getting a shot the doctor would just write it down as covid. The american health care system is a complete joke.
>more than 50% of doctors and nurses in the US didn't take the vaxx
This is a good example of using statistics as propaganda.
99%+ of doctors are vaxxed, it's the low IQ nurses that are not vaxxed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>99%+ of doctors are vaxxed, it's the low IQ nurses that are not vaxxed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is in the majority, but nowhere near 99%, vaxcattlebro. Remember, you had some doctor unions protesting them.
My sibling is studying medicine, the brainwashing is real man. Any kind of vaccine hesitancy among students results in having to write letters of explanation and expulsions. It's not easy to make it through med school if you're not very conformist in nature.
>you cant speak out against the vaccine of fear of losing your licence
Because being anti-vax would demonstrate a fundamental flaw in your medical understanding and therefore your competence as a doctor
2 years ago
Anonymous
What? They are students, of course they don't have a complete medical understanding. They are learning, you would expect them to ask dumb questions, you're supposed to answer them not expel them without explanation.
>> Any kind of vaccine hesitancy among students results in having to write letters of explanation and expulsions.
Made up bullshit. This has never happened.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah how would you even measure vaccine hesitancy amongst students? Like, do ''they'' monitor social media and then force them to write sorry letters? To who? This whole shit makes no sense.
I remember the only time someone got in trouble for social media posts was when they took a selfie with a cadaver. Now that obviously breaks all kinds of ethic principles and the moron actually got expelled.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nothing to do with social media, it's to do with if they take the vaccine or not. And the letters are to explain why you don't want the vaccine, I don't remember what office the person holds exactly that you have to send the letter to, but it's someone at the university responsible for students getting vaccinated.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Believe what you want m8. It happened in the UK after my sister wasn't sure if she wanted the vaccine while studying medicine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is what we in the US refer to as a “Canadian girlfriend.”
2 years ago
Anonymous
> using UK loicencing meme to make i plausible
good try homosexual
Interning at a clinic >most doctors are fat >most binge drink >one smokes and copes saying "uuh we breathe pollution every day maan" >never keep good practices on health hazards and cross contamination >don't even wear protection to x ray >everyone there had to be triple vaxxed and boosted and swear by the vax
Being a doctor doesn't live up to the perception of being a doctor. They're just regular people with memorized knowledge and experience. Still faulty, still acting in their own best interest, with outlier on both sides of the spectrum.
Worst part should be laying in bed and feeling like I couldn't breath but I found the following stuff frustrating:
(1) When I went into the ER and explained my symptoms the nurse asked if I had just had my covid booster, and if it was Pfizer. They immediately knew what to do thank goodness but the doctor came in later to tell me why Pfizer is still good and whatnot. The language was really disrespectful though, almost like they blamed me for coming in.
(2) I went back to pick up my paperwork from the records office and it turns out that neither the adverse reaction report or anything else mentioning the vaccine had been filed. The attendant said I should still be able to get an exemption for my booster but the ARR was immediately asked for later on.
(3) The cardiologist I talked to said that the odds of a similar reaction to the booster were considerable, but that I could check myself into the hospital before getting the vaccine such that when I have problems breathing and my heart starts shaking there'd be nurses to administer something. That made me really upset since the heart constriction or whatever was quite painful and I wouldn't want to repeat it for the sake of "at risk groups".
Some of the wierd shit from the hospital:
I spent some time pressing the issue of the adverse reaction report, since the doctor had said explicitely and implicitely that my condition was caused by the vaccine, with a witness, no less. The answer was that they couldn't attribute it to an allergic reaction or whatever else to the pfizer vaccine (myo/ pericarditis are apparently caused by an autoimmune reaction of sorts or something) since in my file they had noted that I used to be allergic to a type of tropical fruit and that maybe I had eaten it without knowing before I started seeing symptoms?
>things that never happened
This lying newbie doesn't even know to greentext it.
[...]
Well of fricking course. Doctors are taught to treat, diagnose and operate on people. Not >people. Figures you will fail to treat an obese landwhale, when you cannot even measure its pulse without the use of heavy constrution equipment.
I would also bet that the fact, burgers refuse to go to a doctor untill the very last moment, when they are already coughing up blood, does not help.
In real world, it takes time to diagnose the cause of the problem, unlike an episode of House.SJ22
[...]
hello rabbi
>Gets called out for being newbie plebbitors >Reeee kys israelite!
You homosexuals stand out like a sore thumb. Frick off back to your precious plebbit already.
>Frick off back to your precious plebbit already.
This
Every time these morons get b& from whatever shitty sub-reddit they were hiding in they end up here.
>B-b-but he didn`t used crayon colors to highlight his piece
You are either a moron zoomer unable to go over few lines without loosing your attention span or an old sack of shit, who should by no account give a frick about such trivial shit by your age.
But you get a point for deflecting the topic, Mr. Shekelberg, to focus on mUh gReEnText, instead of you being called out for a israelite you are for dissmissing the account given by annon. Textbook.
Have you guys actually spoken to any kinds of doctors/specialists about covid vaccine side effects?
Everytime I bring it up they all have the same reaction. They tense up and change body language immediately, and after a brief look of paranoia in their eyes they start reciting vaccine guidelines… as if I’m some kind of secret agent that’s been sent to spy on them and see if they’re saying anything bad about the vaccines
I’m not expecting the doctor to have any idea how to fix side effects of a vaccine, or even understand it, but it’s frightening to me how they’re so afraid.
It’s making me lose confidence in doctors and I find myself slowly becoming one of those schizos who doesn’t trust the medical profession
Worst part should be laying in bed and feeling like I couldn't breath but I found the following stuff frustrating:
(1) When I went into the ER and explained my symptoms the nurse asked if I had just had my covid booster, and if it was Pfizer. They immediately knew what to do thank goodness but the doctor came in later to tell me why Pfizer is still good and whatnot. The language was really disrespectful though, almost like they blamed me for coming in.
(2) I went back to pick up my paperwork from the records office and it turns out that neither the adverse reaction report or anything else mentioning the vaccine had been filed. The attendant said I should still be able to get an exemption for my booster but the ARR was immediately asked for later on.
(3) The cardiologist I talked to said that the odds of a similar reaction to the booster were considerable, but that I could check myself into the hospital before getting the vaccine such that when I have problems breathing and my heart starts shaking there'd be nurses to administer something. That made me really upset since the heart constriction or whatever was quite painful and I wouldn't want to repeat it for the sake of "at risk groups".
Some of the wierd shit from the hospital:
I spent some time pressing the issue of the adverse reaction report, since the doctor had said explicitely and implicitely that my condition was caused by the vaccine, with a witness, no less. The answer was that they couldn't attribute it to an allergic reaction or whatever else to the pfizer vaccine (myo/ pericarditis are apparently caused by an autoimmune reaction of sorts or something) since in my file they had noted that I used to be allergic to a type of tropical fruit and that maybe I had eaten it without knowing before I started seeing symptoms?
Have you guys actually spoken to any kinds of doctors/specialists about covid vaccine side effects?
Everytime I bring it up they all have the same reaction. They tense up and change body language immediately, and after a brief look of paranoia in their eyes they start reciting vaccine guidelines… as if I’m some kind of secret agent that’s been sent to spy on them and see if they’re saying anything bad about the vaccines
I’m not expecting the doctor to have any idea how to fix side effects of a vaccine, or even understand it, but it’s frightening to me how they’re so afraid.
It’s making me lose confidence in doctors and I find myself slowly becoming one of those schizos who doesn’t trust the medical profession
This . Doctors and medical institutions completely shut their brain off and just keep telling you to get vaxd. Sorry this happened to you, but you should document everything more formally and not just on a thai basket weaving forum
I had am slightly different sorry - i had long covid and it was hell for 3 months (some of you cynics wont believe it but its real). I had high blood pressure and heart rate and could not concentrate and couldnt sleep or move , among other things for three months.
The whole time every doctor is like, get vaxd, are you vaxd, and i was like no, here is an article from a medical journal showing i have increased risk of side effects because of long covid and also i Have natural immunity. Nobody cared , they didnt let me on campus and effectively kicked me out of school. All of the sudden natural immunity and side effects didn't exist
Btw there is a cure for covid - antibody treatments. Of course they ration those
You didnt have the flu, your chest was "fricked" for two months because youre a weak homosexual who wanted sympathy
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't get any, though? I didnt seek treatment. My running times all dropped and my lung capacity was shit for 2months after the flu. A lot of morons (you), Don't have a clue what the flu is actually like and just call bad colds "the flu". It's a seriously fricks you up. I'm guessing thousands of people caught the flu for the first time during covid and thats why they believed covid to be a super deadly disease.
You had the flu. I had the flu once and my chest was fricked for 2 months after the symptoms subsided
Long covid is real. The real name for it is post viral syndrome. Any viral infection can result in the same symptoms as long covid. They just renamed it long covid to scaremonger more people into taking the vax.
He's right you fricking homosexual covid is just a cold/flu virus and anyone can have long lasting symptoms from shit like that, it's uncommon, you were unlucky, but "covid" as you think you know it simply isn't real
Turn off CNN you gay homo
Covid js not just the flu. It was developed in a chinese lab with US funding , and they specifically chose bat viruses for a reason
The covid virus attacks the nervous system, blood vessels, and indirectly thru those the heart.
Part of covid for a portion of the population is that it breaks the blood brain barrier and attacks the brain. For some, like me, it effected the autonomic nervous system disrupting the body's clock cycle, causing insomnia and brain inflammation (covid fog)
Covid does not effect some, some if effects like a cold, but for a significant portion it is like a bioweapon nerve agent. Its likely it was released earlier than they wanted.
Btw im not vaxd and never will be. The black pill is that the vax is bad AND so is covid
Antibody administration was the real cure and way out. But they suppressed access; and likely ivm worked for many as well.
Meathead moron joe rogan had the answer, so did our government and doctors -and they kept it from us
2 years ago
Anonymous
Covid isn't a bioweapon, it's just a fictional desease. That's what happens when you spend too much time reading fictional news online. You wouldn't even know what this crap were if it wasn't for the internet. It's not real and you need to stop coping.
>Nooooo, You can't deny my lived experience of LOOOOONGGG covid. It was super real.
pathetic
>I had long term symptoms from flu >You had long term symptoms so it was the flu >Your symptoms arent real >But mine were
This is your brain on contrarian narrative overdose. long term symptoms have been documented in loads of different diseases and range wildly in duration and severity. For example SARS and MERS have had ~10% incidence of +4 year symptoms.
> every source is a bad source for the goy
imagine my shock
https://www.lakemedelsverket.se/4a0b25/globalassets/dokument/nyheter/dhpc/comirnaty-spikevax-dhpc-2021-07-19.pdf
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2791253?guestAccessKey=b76ffbb1-d5c4-4f00-add1-a30d0dce45e7&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=042022
>red pill
the red pill is that flu/pneumonia is the number 1 comorbidity for covid deaths, accounting for 50% of all covid deaths according to the US CDC
I wonder how's many "Covid deaths" were pure unrelated malpractice.
>Whoops, I accidentally sliced this man's aorta during surgery and he bled out >Better shove a bunch of coin-flip PRC swabs up his moss so we can can get a false positive and call it a covid death!!!1111 >That way no one gets in trouble and we get grant money
medical malpractice is number 3 cause of death. Think about that for fricks sake.
I wonder how's many "Covid deaths" were pure unrelated malpractice.
>Whoops, I accidentally sliced this man's aorta during surgery and he bled out >Better shove a bunch of coin-flip PRC swabs up his moss so we can can get a false positive and call it a covid death!!!1111 >That way no one gets in trouble and we get grant money
Well of fricking course. Doctors are taught to treat, diagnose and operate on people. Not >people. Figures you will fail to treat an obese landwhale, when you cannot even measure its pulse without the use of heavy constrution equipment.
I would also bet that the fact, burgers refuse to go to a doctor untill the very last moment, when they are already coughing up blood, does not help.
In real world, it takes time to diagnose the cause of the problem, unlike an episode of House.SJ22
[...]
[...] >things that never happened
This lying newbie doesn't even know to greentext it.
>Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death.
Fricking use Google you inbred subhuman
I wonder how's many "Covid deaths" were pure unrelated malpractice.
>Whoops, I accidentally sliced this man's aorta during surgery and he bled out >Better shove a bunch of coin-flip PRC swabs up his moss so we can can get a false positive and call it a covid death!!!1111 >That way no one gets in trouble and we get grant money
>Better shove a bunch of coin-flip PRC swabs up his moss so we can can get a false positive and call it a covid death!!!1111
I doubt anyone calling RT-PCR tests a “coin-flip” has ever taken one
this really happened to Brazil where corruption is notorious, it reached a point where it was so obvious and any death was counted as ~~*the coof*~~. Of course, the media spun this and said that it’s actually because “there’s so many cases in the country that hospitals are overwhelmed and have no choice to count it that way”, and they directed this fault at Bolsonaro because they got paid big money by lula (Brazilian biden) when he was president. And the legislations aren’t even decided by Bolsonaro at all because the Supreme Court in the country blocks literally everything, and the restrictions are decided by each region. I even had an uncle who died in a car accident and his death and certificate counted the coof as the cause. Brazil is a very lost country. The young generation especially
it's a pretty distant 3rd though I don't understand why that's controversial I don't have exact numbers but like "medical error" would I think less than a 5th of heart disease + cancer just based on the graph alone.
It's good for the bank accounts of those who sell it. You are no longer the consumer, the government is. Your health is now second. Hippocrates has been let down.
Anyone see the lawsuit vs. Astrazaneca? Astrazeneca lost. It's been causing Guillain Barre. I would encourage the people who were injured from these to start filing lawsuits, it might ne worth it after all. If this is the case politicians can be made accountable as well.
Iol, lmao. Of course theyre bad for you. These companies were all given a blank check by the goverment and are doing everthing in their power to attack people who don't want it. Whats beyond moronic is people act like its some holy comunion, like do any of these idiots stop to think maybe these phara companies dont give a frick about their health????
Have you guys actually spoken to any kinds of doctors/specialists about covid vaccine side effects?
Everytime I bring it up they all have the same reaction. They tense up and change body language immediately, and after a brief look of paranoia in their eyes they start reciting vaccine guidelines… as if I’m some kind of secret agent that’s been sent to spy on them and see if they’re saying anything bad about the vaccines
I’m not expecting the doctor to have any idea how to fix side effects of a vaccine, or even understand it, but it’s frightening to me how they’re so afraid.
It’s making me lose confidence in doctors and I find myself slowly becoming one of those schizos who doesn’t trust the medical profession
Is everyone here LARPing or just schizo?
Acting like every single medical worker is paid off directly by le big pharma and as soon as you mention something might be wrong with the vaccine they will literally attack you whilst shitting their pants and reciting guidelines.
Go to r/conspiracy next time and you will get 10 thousand updoots.
As a medical worker, I'd say half of my colleagues didn't even get the shot, and the ones that did don't really give a frick about it one way or the other. But when you get patients coming in with itchy butthole trying to blame it on the vaccine they got 9 months ago, it does get tiring.
it's a pretty distant 3rd though I don't understand why that's controversial I don't have exact numbers but like "medical error" would I think less than a 5th of heart disease + cancer just based on the graph alone.
I also don't really get the point of the graph. Yeah, it seems pretty obvious that medical errors will be made. It's not like medical errors account for the majority of mortalities/morbidities. Like... do these people think that there can be a system in place where medical errors stop existing?
It doesn't take every medical worker being an accomplice; it just takes the ones that know it's bullshit being complicit to the system and not calling it out. I have no faith in going to doctors for preventative treatments because they circumcise, knowing it's wrong, for the money. I only seek the medical community to fix shit when it's broken, now. I'm not going to trust the same professional system that molests boys for cash to beta test anything on me. Had two relatives, one old, one young, die of heart attacks within days of getting vaccinated. In the entire known history of our family there's no prevalence of heart attacks.
>circumcision
Never understood why americans do this.
Anyway, western medicine is good for a lot of things, such as injuries, acute health issues, infections, etc., and it is also not so good for a lot of things, mostly chronic diseases, ''treating'' obesity etc.
With covid, it's really hard to say. It's a new disease and nobody still knows what the frick it does to your body. Same with the vax. I always see people saying stuff like this, that half of their relatives died after the vax, whether on IST, fb, or other social media. But looking at the actual data, it just doesn't add up. So either 1) literally everyone that this happened to posts about it online all the time from multiple accounts, or 2) everyone in the medical field is complicit, or 3) most people are just making this shit up online.
You will get cancelled and blacklisted in the medical industry if you have any negative comment about the vaccine. That's really all the push most doctors need since they have no other careers to fall back on.
Now that is just bullshit. Well I dunno I'm not in USA but here in yurop, I have a lot of colleagues who are openly anti-vax and no one really gives a frick, unless they bother you with it or are interfering with the treatment - meaning e.g. if the national society for vaccinology sets guidelines for high risk patients who should be vaxxed, you can't just ignore that and tell your patients that vaxx is dangerous, when you know they're high-risk. But if you have a healthy 20-year old, no one is forcing you to push the vax on them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I work in a cancer hospital and that’s absolutely not true here. Most of us are pro vaccine and also pro mandate for healthcare workers, but anti mandate for the general population. I’d go so far as to say being pro mandate for the general population will get a negative reaction here. Do you work in medicine? Or do you just have a vague impression of how you think the atmosphere is behind closed doors? Are you just making things up to for your narrative?
Link to where your friends have publicly come out against the vaccines. Then we can see if they were punished.
2 years ago
Anonymous
OK. Can you read czech? I'll link this
https://deklaracelekaru.cz/podpisy.php
It's a declaration of doctors standing against vax propaganda. A lot of signatures, public, some very well-known doctors in there. Nobody got ''cancelled'', nobody got in trouble. And some fo these have gone far beyond just signing a petition. They've come out on TV or in other media, spouting misinformation about covid, vaccines in general, etc. Again, they all kept their jobs. That's just my sample from my small country.
i make it sound like dunning kruger effekt is an acutal thing
if you still want to pretend like you are an expert in the matter by my guest
Well it's actually you, who are pretending to know better than everyone else. I'm just stating that I do have a pretty good understanding of what's going, big part thanks to my education. Your arguments have not convinced of anything other than you being a schizo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How do you want me to link to a personal conversation, moron?
I work in a cancer hospital and that’s absolutely not true here. Most of us are pro vaccine and also pro mandate for healthcare workers, but anti mandate for the general population. I’d go so far as to say being pro mandate for the general population will get a negative reaction here. Do you work in medicine? Or do you just have a vague impression of how you think the atmosphere is behind closed doors? Are you just making things up to for your narrative?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's just a schizo probably
2 years ago
Anonymous
Its worse than doctors being spineless - they are NPCs that are programmable by the state.
>2) everyone in the medical field is complicit
You wanna make it look like anon's having a delusion about le grande conspiracy when all it takes is medical personnel "trusting the experts" to be complicit in this, consciously or not.
>As a medical worker,
sure things
if you would work in the field you would know how spinles doctors are and how they cave to whatever the regulations say
it doest mean every single doctor is in on it and nobody said so
but you would damn well know that you cant speak out against the vaccine of fear of losing your licence
stop gaslighting you fricking c**t
>you cant speak out against the vaccine of fear of losing your licence
Because being anti-vax would demonstrate a fundamental flaw in your medical understanding and therefore your competence as a doctor
first of all you have like few day of courses about vaccines
it would be stupid to think your average doc has a deep udnerstanding of vaccines unless you are a specialist
also its not about being antivaxx
its about being cautious with a rushed process for a method that never was before permitted
It’s dogmatic to say the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, too. At a certain point there are things we accept as absolutes until/unless some truly earth shattering counter-evidence is produced.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oy vey
2 years ago
Anonymous
Flat and never ending.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>human medicine >ever to be considered an absolute on anything
Lol. Lmao.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Classic israeli trick: trying to conflate "anti-vax" with "flat-earth" to avoid providing any arguments
2 years ago
Anonymous
The way you described dogma is pretty dogmatic bro.
To all the vaxbros:
Remember that you are literal human cattle with no free will, coping and convincing yourselves that it was for the greater good or whatever. Doesn't matter if the "vaccine" was giga poison or just saline, out of principle alone you are not a man and are a weak-minded drone.
>rent free
[...]
two weeks surely make you an expert on the matter
>yes, after medical school, your education is officially over, you can never learn any additional information about any topic, you are stuck with the things you learned forever
Actually, one good thing medical school does, is that you learn how to read and interpret scientific studies. So that you don't end up like morons on this site, and you can actually tell when a paper is trying to bamboozle you by cherrypicking data, using flawed methodology, misinterpreting results, p-hacking, etc.
There's a reason no one even peer-reviews the garbage 'publications' vax doomers keep linking to.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if you dont blindly believe what is taught in med school it demonstrates a fundamental flaw in your medical understanding and therefore your competence as a doctor >we only have a few weeks about vaccines >me knowing how to read puts me on the level of experts
i think it only shows how delusional you are
2 years ago
Anonymous
Haha you almost make it sound like having a formal medical education somehow makes you lesser informed about medicine than the average shitposter. Anyway, the school teaches you a lot of basics, but you really start to learn stuff as you start working and/or doing research. Well, here's your last (you) from me.
If you wanna change the state of things, why don't you also become a doctor and do something? They won't accept your IST-approved license in your state?
2 years ago
Anonymous
i make it sound like dunning kruger effekt is an acutal thing
if you still want to pretend like you are an expert in the matter by my guest
2 years ago
Anonymous
Right so by your logic no one can be an expert on anything
2 years ago
Anonymous
you dont know what im talking about do you?
i specifically talk about family type doctor who had a minimum amount of knowledge about vaccines coming here pretending he is some kind of expert because he learned how to read in medschool
2 years ago
Anonymous
>family type doctor
When have I said that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wait you mean my speed-read article from the taiwanese book of doctoring doesn't carry the same weight as your article from the new england journal of medicine???
2 years ago
Anonymous
>My certainty about the safety and efficacy of the shot is equal to the certainty that the earth will keep rotating.
Medical doctors once again showing they have no grasp of uncertainty and probability. I have yet to meet one that gets anything beyond risk ratios. topkek
>product is such an abysmal failure you have to change the definitions of vaccine to make it apply >if you don't want to consume my product you're anti-science
You guys really do believe that words are magic and you can just change reality by lying hard enough, huh?
The definition was changed to brainlets like you would stop spouting bullshit about vaccines making you invulnerable to the disease in question forever.
Even before Covid you had to get regular (3-10) years boosters of many vaccines, influenza, tetanus, hepatitis, you name it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like your lumping in notoriously ineffective flu shots with tetanus and hepatitis vaccinations. Could it possibly be that the reason we don't have to worry about lockjaw is that clostridium has changed very little since the early 20th century when we started inoculation against it? As a peabrain I think I'll stick with not turning my immune system into a subscription service though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And yet you also should get tetanus/hepatitis/measles etc. boosts every couple of years because immunity wanes over time, despite hep B being pretty much unchanging
2 years ago
Anonymous
None of which explode my heart and all of which work for multiple years.
I'm a medical doctor and I can say whatever the frick I want about vaccines and no one can take away my license, unless I'm actively breaking some law, or hurting a patient by breaking guidelines. You are the one who has no idea what the frick they're talking about here mate.
But again, I live in yurop. If US is truly so cucked that you can lose your license for speaking out against vaccines, then good luck living there.
Not that anon, but I have a PhD in chemistry, specialized in nanomaterials
There's more of us than you'd think
Also, I'm 36 >don't forget, you're here forever
>But again, I live in yurop
https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/news/hausarzt-will-nicht-mehr-gegen-corona-impfen-uni-entzieht-ihm-deshalb-lehrerlaubnis_id_24427159.html
Well, they took away one of his licenses in Germany.
Nobody is accusing every medical worker of being directly paid off, you're attacking a strawman. It's very plausible that social pressure is enough, and people who don't toe the line are demoted or fired.
I got cosmetic surgery right before covid hit. When I came for a follow up a little over a year later, my surgeon asked if I got the vaccine. I said no, and he gave the standard speech about why the vax is great and that I should get it. But then interestingly, he kind of said in a roundabout way that getting the vaccine wouldn't really matter due to me being young and so healthy, and that ultimately it's my personal choice.
Ah. I'm in the midwest. A good 35% of my state refused to get the vaccines and I've encountered a lot of vaxxed people who are now refusing to get the boosters. Definitely a culture divide.
>I find myself slowly becoming one of those schizos who doesn’t trust the medical profession
It's not schizo. You shouldn't trust them. They israelite teeth. They mutiliate baby dicks. They recommend sneed oils. Enough personal experience with them and you'll see, or you can take it from the people warning you.
I went to /med/ on the science board and asked them, how do you become "one of those people who've made very few [social] mistakes" (their description for doctor)? They said to never argue. You can't get sued for doing what everyone else is doing. They always do this. I read up on Gilbert Ling's alternative cell theory and he said at one point: >So I asked myself and my audience what is the point of singling out one item and propose a theory specifically dealing with that one item alone and turn our back on everything else? That was more or less the question on which I ended my talk. I was entirely unprepared for what followed almost immediately after I stepped down from the podium. For two of my most respected professors approached me in turn and using almost exactly the same words, gave me the same message: The sodium pump is a sacred cow. Leave it alone. There is no point making yourself a martyr.
Anyone who disagrees, no matter the content of their arguments, is made to be a schizo. Disagreeing with things does not make you a schizo, it is the content of your arguments which decide if you are schizo or not.
I faked my card and lied about being boosted to uni and my doctor. Doc put it on my medical file, will never get vaxxed. I did frick a lot of vaccinated girl pussy though
See while I appreciate you being of this mindset, the only real way to make any difference would have been to stand on your principles. I got fired from my job, and have ceased medical school plans over the vaxx requirements.
> all the people in the world ate the same thing 1000 years ago
potatoes only came to europe ~500 years ago, and nothern america 400 years ago
tomatoes arrived in italy~500 years ago
the english conquered india ~500 years ago and came across spices
Vaccsines? No.
Modern medicine? No.
Experimental shit with little to no testing, where every Big Pharma knows the first one to the market will earn billions? Gee I wonder.
>goyshot gives you heart problems
fricking crazy how we've been saying that for a year yet we got banned and censored to oblivion and labeled as "science-denying nazis."
Because the Infowars/Flat-Earthers/Anti-Vax/Home Schooled Q Anon crowd keep throwing spaghetti and sauce at the wall, so even if nothing sticks it still leaves a stain.
you know 99% of the q anon shit you see on the internet are bots spreading propaganda right? there is nothing wrong with homeschooling or antivax. they did the same shit in the 60s with hippies by supplying them with LSD.
>midwits are surprised that sucking up to multi billion dollar pharmaceutical cartels wasn't actually resisting capitalism all along
you love to see it
>Is vaccines and modern medicine actually bad for your health?
Absolutely. Vaccines are based on a flawed theory. They don't and will never work as intended.
http://whale.to/a/vonderplanitz3.html
>Is vaccines and modern medicine actually bad for your health
no
the rona vax is sure but in general vaccines have helped to eliminate or greatly reduce the prevalence of several diseases
before the advent of the covid vax turning out to be poison, being anti vax was a surefire way to sniff out a schizo moron. now unfortunately those with legitimate concerns over the current jab get lumped in with this previous group in an attempt to discredit said concerns.
To all the vaxbros:
Remember that you are literal human cattle with no free will, coping and convincing yourselves that it was for the greater good or whatever. Doesn't matter if the "vaccine" was giga poison or just saline, out of principle alone you are not a man and are a weak-minded drone.
I didn't call vaccinated people human cattle, incel. Cope and touch grass.
Also, you can't complain about ad hominem when that's the basis for your entire argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yet you are here on the same le incel forum spoutimg sententious ramblings as if you're some arbiter of "normal society" and ad populuming like the drone you are.
Moo harder for me, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
oh no no no no
this "man" got social shamed into taking a vaccine that doesn't work
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA
2 years ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yet you are here on the same le incel forum spoutimg sententious ramblings as if you're some arbiter of "normal society" and ad populuming like the drone you are. >Moo harder for me, moron.
You literally got brainwashed by chink and russian shills on /misc/. Keep on thinking you are le free thinker though when I can say without a doubt that you are a literal moron
The chinks and russians aren't enslaving me. They also aren't actively destroying my currency. They also don't call me a terrorist or actively try to disarm me. They also don't attempt to brainwash my kids using money they stole from me. My government does though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kek this is an actual chink and/or vatnik shill. Same generic response as they always do. Claim that the American government is a greater evil than them, and that the American government hates their own people. Next he will probably accuse me of being a redditor,trans, or supporter of "globohomo". Everytime
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm just a run of the mill libertarian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
why are you trying this hard to shill? Is shekelberg taxpaying you a commission for each reply? you’ve blown your cover as a fed now that you’re seething this much, you’re obviously new to the job
> takes contrarian position along with millions of of other mouth breathing contrarians > thinks for himself
some of us had to take the vax to travel or work homosexual, we have lives to live. go outside and touch grass, people irl arn't the homosexuals you are spoon fed on social media
>had to take the vax to travel or work
OH NOOOOO you couldn't go to Disneyland with Shekelberg Industries without the mystery shot! Oh I understand now. Good goy.
i have family abroad you homosexual moron, people who care for me and who i care for
if you had people who actually wanted to spend time with you, you'd understand
I do have people I care about. They chose to completely isolate themselves from all family members that don't have the shot. Funny enough, I'm the only one in my surviving family that hasn't gotten it.
You'd think a "safe and effective" shot would protect them from the ONE PERSON that doesn't have it but I was told to trust the science.
There is literally zero benefit to getting the jab unless you're over 80. Anyone unironically defending it at this point is a paid shill or an NPC. Major pharma corporations have proven themselves to not give a single shit about the health of the general public time and time again. Fauci is literally paid by big pharma companies to shill their drugs through research grants and ownership stakes in drug patents. The CDC is run by people trying to get a career in the private sector where they make money hand over fist. Cash starved news outlets receive money from Pfizer and the like to push their "miracle cures" on the general public, who never considers an alternative. It should be plainly obvious that the jabs were just a way for Pharma to make tens of billions of dollars and for those in power to gauge just how much of the general public will accept any declaration without question. People willingly branded themselves as cattle because they were too afraid to give up lives of decadence or to be seen as an outsider. This was never about your health or mine, otherwise they would be doing something about factory farms and processed food.
>Yet you are here on the same le incel forum spoutimg sententious ramblings as if you're some arbiter of "normal society" and ad populuming like the drone you are.
If you are a doctor for a big Massachusetts hospital, you cannot be anticovid vax. You have to conform. Im Sure its the same for many other states. Not sure what some people in this thread are smoking
I’ve personally noticed becoming extremely lazy after being forced to take it, I lost a lot of gains because of slacking but the vax is the root problem
it’s strange it’s not even a “worn out” normal kind of tired, it’s like I suddenly have insulin or anemic problems and am demotivated.
Why the frick did you even take the pharmaceutical product?
parents. they’ve bribed me for long time and bothered me to get it, I only did it because I love them, and don’t want them losing their minds over bullshit and shorten their life, even though I tried talking them into leaving it alone my voice always falls on deaf ears.
>i'm a welfare queen who indoctrinates children
and I am pro school shooting
2 years ago
Anonymous
I teach English
It's a private school and we did a unit on climate change where we thoroughly discussed both sides of the issue including evidence given by people who do not believe in climate change being a man-made occurrence.
I was very impressed by how genuinely this topic was handled at the school I work at. With different statistics and research being shown from both sides.
The only time homosexuality has even been brought up in any qualified taught is when discussing how Kim jong-un Rose to power in North Korea and when some older material include music from Ricky Martin and students were curious about him.
Yes it is focused around profits. If you have a problem they will give you a medicine to treat that problem and give you more problems down the line. Rinse and repeat.
Poorgay who took sinovac here. What are the chances I had myocarditis or some form of heart damage? >took it late 2021, only took one dose >had no immediate side effects other than sore arm and tiredness >around 2 months in started to get random chest tightness, doesn't seem related to physical exertion only because sometimes happens at rest too >3 months in, one day get tachycardia out of nowhere while getting up from bed, this triggers a panic attack which worsens anxiety for the next 3 months >go to doctor, tests and blood panels say I'm fine and it's just "anxiety" >can't walk more than 10 minutes without breathlessness accompanied with throat tightness >used to be able to run 10k no problem >now have palpitations and/or skipped beats sometimes with mild fainting spells couple times per week >have foamy pee and sometimes pale stools
If doctor said i appear to be fine and I admit I also already had anxiety, what are the chances I have actual heart damage? It's been six months since then. I'm improving very slowly.
Start taking 1000% DV vitamin c and 300% DV zinc and get a lot of sunlight. It will help detox your body. Optional supplements that I encourage are ginseng, milk thistle, and wolfs bane.
Is ascorbic acid really that much worse than liposomal vit c? I wonder just how much of it was preexisting conditions worsened by the vaxx, like it's just weird it's slowly getting worse 6 months in. I started eating some 200g-500g of beef liver for the zinc and I can confirm I feel slightly, but definitely not placebo better. Will up my intake then. What's zinc best form? Most sellers sell zinc gluconate.
>milk thistle
Heard great things about it, is there any advantage from making tea from dried flowers vs capsules?
find a way to get a chest ultrasound done. only way to relieve your anxiety would be to see if theres physical damage observable to the eye.
Wish I could anon but as I said >poor
sounds real dumb and simple, but have you had your blood pressure checked recently?
i got low blood pressure and it was triggering anxiety attacks with many symptoms you describe (pre coof and vaccine)
everything bar the out of breath thing fits what happened to me
can go into more detail if you would like
Nope. Ordered a monitor yesterday. A healthy person shouldn't have blood pressure swings like that but I suspect it is that too, low bp specifically.
How did you fix yours? I started adding more sodium to my diet, cut down a bit on garlic and beets. Do you have good gut health?
sounds real dumb and simple, but have you had your blood pressure checked recently?
i got low blood pressure and it was triggering anxiety attacks with many symptoms you describe (pre coof and vaccine)
everything bar the out of breath thing fits what happened to me
can go into more detail if you would like
100%. I haven't gone to a primary care doctor in probably close to 10 years because they basically do nothing other than parrot things that should be obvious, tell me to come back in a month, and charge me a lot of money.
There are a lot of other things too. Like honestly I think people are overly hygienic and wash their hands/shower way too much. Like no shit you should wash your hands thoroughly and mask up before doing surgery, but washing/showering constantly is bad for your skin and the natural bacterial flora that live there. And it fricks up your hair.
Like seriously do you know how much bacteria/mold/etc you breathe in with every breath?
Another example. Went to the podiatrist for some foot pain, they recommended I wear custom orthotics *for the rest of my life*. Keep in mind I was pain free the week prior and their solution was to change my biomechanics forever. I literally just rested for two weeks and got a new pair of running shoes and haven't had any issues since.
It's a combination of - we aren't as smart as we think we are + doctors are lazy people like everyone else and want to take the easy route out as much as they can.
basically this
doctors are people too, and people are socialised animals and lazy
thinking the medical industry is all on cahoots on this shill is very moronic, ~~*they'd*~~ lose all the money they made off the damn coof doing that
The way doctors have shelled out opoids to the obvious and ascertainable detriment to many of their patients for decades now is a powerful example of how the medical community can in fact do things which are bad for their patients.
Whether these mistakes can be attributed to ignorance, corruption, social and professional pressures, or bad science is debatable, however the presumption of widespread doctor falliability on any given issue or treatment is not really debatable.
Yes like the motorcyclist who was decapitated his cause of death was clearly covid because there's a possibility that covid called him to cough and lose control of his motorcycle which is what caused the crash and is decapitation so clearly we are not being dishonest or disingenuous at all and you can definitely trust all the scientists
Your article says that’s comparisons to the post infection vaccines are irrelevant because the vaccine is no longer effective. Meaning everyone is getting Covid and everyone is getting myocarditis.
I know a feller about my age (30ish) that I played ball with in high school. Anyways he is a good guy, high strung I guess, anyways he had a great aunt or something die from covid and got spooked into getting the vaxx. I was texting him about work like a year ago and he tells me that the second dose of the vaccine fricked his blood pressure and heart up and now he is on medication for it long term. Doctor told him it was a vaccine complication.
Crazy thing is, after this happened, he doubled down on supporting the vaxx. Almost like it was easier to just be in denial and double down than to admit he made a choice that fricked his own heart kek. Insane.
a family member of mine did similar, a week after second jab, he got heart problems and had to undergo heart surgery, cut open his ribcage and performed a double bypass. he said it was a coincidence, that the males on his side were prone to heart disease due to elevated cholesterol (which some other anon said is not the cause but a symptom of clogged arteries). he's also on long-term (lifetime?) meds for that. says it wasn't the vaxx, still supports it. the cognitive dissonance is frightening.
>tfw Grad Student in Virology, working with CoV-2 daily >tfw I both think the virus isn't as terrible as everyone claims but I also know the vaccines work because I literally measure patient sera for neutralization
It's a strange feel
if you think the virus is not that terrible then why not come to the logical conclusion that the vaccine is not necessary regardless if it does nothing or really is what it’s speculated to be.
I mean I already know the answer ~~*why*~~ but I still don’t understand why no one IRL can come to this thought let alone accept it
Covid ended up having a 0.3% death rate(yes, including those car accidents)
For comparison, the flu is 0.1~0.2%
https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf
Yeah because virtually every country in the world with the means to actually track Covid deaths shat themselves and tried to keep their hospitals from being overwhelmed, then pushed the vaccine as fast as possible.
Covid does damage your heart in a weird way, makes it temporarily pump really fast. But this lasts about 1-3 hours. The covid vaccine probably also acts on the heart but for a far longer duration than vast majority of covid cases
People who thought people would be dying overnight from the vaxx are delusional, things like this will take decades to start showing but you can bet there's going to be an increase in cancer deaths related to the vaxx. Even minisculely polluted water shows up in cancer rates and that's considered a tragedy.
Autoimmune shit (including lymphoma and leukemia) was an imminent concern during testing of mRNA vax prior to like 2019. They just ignored the studies when covid started. The other major concern was ADE.
None of the literature ever predicted the clots and heart issues though. That was bizarre.
>got the shot most world governments, media, most corporations, majority of leftists, good portion of rightoids, and all levels of medical "professionals" shilled relentlessly for a year >calling others conformist
lol
lmao
This is stupid, frick off moron that post was 2021 and September passed like nothing
To all the vaxbros:
Remember that you are literal human cattle with no free will, coping and convincing yourselves that it was for the greater good or whatever. Doesn't matter if the "vaccine" was giga poison or just saline, out of principle alone you are not a man and are a weak-minded drone.
This guy gets it tho, it's not about vaxxines being literal death sentences, it's about thr cuck man you'd have to he to fall for something like that, i bet most vaxxed ppl support circumcision too
>1 screenshot of a likely troll >vs >countless instances of the vax killing people/screwing up their hearts for life
Haha wow I'm convinced I don't wanna be dumb like him
Happened to me lol. The experience was humiliating and frustrating. I probably won't go to a doctor again. After I got out of the hospital I met with a doctor and cardiologist to apply for an exception to the booster shot. Took months, and my app got bounced around because everyone was afraid of regulatory bodies.
Follow up post about the worst parts incoming.
are you in canada or australia? or a healthcare worker somewhere almost as dystopic?
please hurry I need to know
Worst part should be laying in bed and feeling like I couldn't breath but I found the following stuff frustrating:
(1) When I went into the ER and explained my symptoms the nurse asked if I had just had my covid booster, and if it was Pfizer. They immediately knew what to do thank goodness but the doctor came in later to tell me why Pfizer is still good and whatnot. The language was really disrespectful though, almost like they blamed me for coming in.
(2) I went back to pick up my paperwork from the records office and it turns out that neither the adverse reaction report or anything else mentioning the vaccine had been filed. The attendant said I should still be able to get an exemption for my booster but the ARR was immediately asked for later on.
(3) The cardiologist I talked to said that the odds of a similar reaction to the booster were considerable, but that I could check myself into the hospital before getting the vaccine such that when I have problems breathing and my heart starts shaking there'd be nurses to administer something. That made me really upset since the heart constriction or whatever was quite painful and I wouldn't want to repeat it for the sake of "at risk groups".
Some of the wierd shit from the hospital:
I spent some time pressing the issue of the adverse reaction report, since the doctor had said explicitely and implicitely that my condition was caused by the vaccine, with a witness, no less. The answer was that they couldn't attribute it to an allergic reaction or whatever else to the pfizer vaccine (myo/ pericarditis are apparently caused by an autoimmune reaction of sorts or something) since in my file they had noted that I used to be allergic to a type of tropical fruit and that maybe I had eaten it without knowing before I started seeing symptoms?
i honestly don't understand why doctors, who have access to this information and can see the issues, bend over backwards to suck vaccine wiener
Doctors are the biggest conformists out there. There's an Uncle Ted excerpt about it.
Can you provide? Am curious.
Oh yeah they are the fricking worse, its like their critical thinking skills get tossed out the window. Had one doctor who wanted to get a booster shot and he strait up said to me "everyone at the hospital and their families keep getting covid and they all have been vaccinated, so i figured i should get a booster." Had another who strait up said he got myocarditas from "covid" last year even though hes only 34. oh and this is the worst one I knew some one who breifly worked at a clinic and every time someone came in with a heart problem after getting a shot the doctor would just write it down as covid. The american health care system is a complete joke.
Doctors and hospital staff are noc's . They literally throw their brain away for state propaganda
People who died unrelated to covid were written down as cause of death from covid
In eastern europe
They invested everything into their career, its not worth being cancelled
the real redpill is that more than 50% of doctors and nurses in the US didn't take the vaxx lol
>more than 50% of doctors and nurses in the US didn't take the vaxx
This is a good example of using statistics as propaganda.
99%+ of doctors are vaxxed, it's the low IQ nurses that are not vaxxed.
>99%+ of doctors are vaxxed, it's the low IQ nurses that are not vaxxed.
It is in the majority, but nowhere near 99%, vaxcattlebro. Remember, you had some doctor unions protesting them.
My sibling is studying medicine, the brainwashing is real man. Any kind of vaccine hesitancy among students results in having to write letters of explanation and expulsions. It's not easy to make it through med school if you're not very conformist in nature.
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What? They are students, of course they don't have a complete medical understanding. They are learning, you would expect them to ask dumb questions, you're supposed to answer them not expel them without explanation.
>> Any kind of vaccine hesitancy among students results in having to write letters of explanation and expulsions.
Made up bullshit. This has never happened.
Yeah how would you even measure vaccine hesitancy amongst students? Like, do ''they'' monitor social media and then force them to write sorry letters? To who? This whole shit makes no sense.
I remember the only time someone got in trouble for social media posts was when they took a selfie with a cadaver. Now that obviously breaks all kinds of ethic principles and the moron actually got expelled.
Nothing to do with social media, it's to do with if they take the vaccine or not. And the letters are to explain why you don't want the vaccine, I don't remember what office the person holds exactly that you have to send the letter to, but it's someone at the university responsible for students getting vaccinated.
Believe what you want m8. It happened in the UK after my sister wasn't sure if she wanted the vaccine while studying medicine.
This is what we in the US refer to as a “Canadian girlfriend.”
> using UK loicencing meme to make i plausible
good try homosexual
Interning at a clinic
>most doctors are fat
>most binge drink
>one smokes and copes saying "uuh we breathe pollution every day maan"
>never keep good practices on health hazards and cross contamination
>don't even wear protection to x ray
>everyone there had to be triple vaxxed and boosted and swear by the vax
Being a doctor doesn't live up to the perception of being a doctor. They're just regular people with memorized knowledge and experience. Still faulty, still acting in their own best interest, with outlier on both sides of the spectrum.
Because healthcare workers will get fired and blacklisted if we speak out too much
Medical adcoms is brutal, being a Dr. is like being in the armed forces. You follow process or lose your career.
Your Dr. admission that it was a vaccine reaction is the best he can do without opening himself to loss of license and malpractice
>things that never happened
This lying newbie doesn't even know to greentext it.
hello israelite
>Gets called out for being newbie plebbitors
>Reeee kys israelite!
You homosexuals stand out like a sore thumb. Frick off back to your precious plebbit already.
Kys dyel israelite manlet
>Frick off back to your precious plebbit already.
This
Every time these morons get b& from whatever shitty sub-reddit they were hiding in they end up here.
What? How is anti-vax a reddit position? reddit is mostly pro vax and anti-anti-semitism
>B-b-but he didn`t used crayon colors to highlight his piece
You are either a moron zoomer unable to go over few lines without loosing your attention span or an old sack of shit, who should by no account give a frick about such trivial shit by your age.
But you get a point for deflecting the topic, Mr. Shekelberg, to focus on mUh gReEnText, instead of you being called out for a israelite you are for dissmissing the account given by annon. Textbook.
~~**~~
t.jew
Hey Hebrew
have a nice day israelite.
>I met with a doctor and cardiologist to apply for an exception to the booster shot
We are the kings. Not easily swayed by moron propaganda. We will inherit the earth.
>Met with my doctor and cardiologist to get an exception
Good lord you are one pathetic homosexual. A vaxtard and an idiot, what a winning combo!
imagine actually taking this forced rushed expermintal gene therapy and dont expect any side effects to happen
lmao get rekt vaxxie, dead before youre 50 whewwwwwwwwww
This . Doctors and medical institutions completely shut their brain off and just keep telling you to get vaxd. Sorry this happened to you, but you should document everything more formally and not just on a thai basket weaving forum
I had am slightly different sorry - i had long covid and it was hell for 3 months (some of you cynics wont believe it but its real). I had high blood pressure and heart rate and could not concentrate and couldnt sleep or move , among other things for three months.
The whole time every doctor is like, get vaxd, are you vaxd, and i was like no, here is an article from a medical journal showing i have increased risk of side effects because of long covid and also i Have natural immunity. Nobody cared , they didnt let me on campus and effectively kicked me out of school. All of the sudden natural immunity and side effects didn't exist
Btw there is a cure for covid - antibody treatments. Of course they ration those
You had the flu. I had the flu once and my chest was fricked for 2 months after the symptoms subsided
Kys
>Nooooo, You can't deny my lived experience of LOOOOONGGG covid. It was super real.
pathetic
You didnt have the flu, your chest was "fricked" for two months because youre a weak homosexual who wanted sympathy
I didn't get any, though? I didnt seek treatment. My running times all dropped and my lung capacity was shit for 2months after the flu. A lot of morons (you), Don't have a clue what the flu is actually like and just call bad colds "the flu". It's a seriously fricks you up. I'm guessing thousands of people caught the flu for the first time during covid and thats why they believed covid to be a super deadly disease.
Long covid is real. The real name for it is post viral syndrome. Any viral infection can result in the same symptoms as long covid. They just renamed it long covid to scaremonger more people into taking the vax.
He's right you fricking homosexual covid is just a cold/flu virus and anyone can have long lasting symptoms from shit like that, it's uncommon, you were unlucky, but "covid" as you think you know it simply isn't real
Turn off CNN you gay homo
>he gets sick
ngmi
Covid js not just the flu. It was developed in a chinese lab with US funding , and they specifically chose bat viruses for a reason
The covid virus attacks the nervous system, blood vessels, and indirectly thru those the heart.
Part of covid for a portion of the population is that it breaks the blood brain barrier and attacks the brain. For some, like me, it effected the autonomic nervous system disrupting the body's clock cycle, causing insomnia and brain inflammation (covid fog)
Covid does not effect some, some if effects like a cold, but for a significant portion it is like a bioweapon nerve agent. Its likely it was released earlier than they wanted.
Btw im not vaxd and never will be. The black pill is that the vax is bad AND so is covid
Antibody administration was the real cure and way out. But they suppressed access; and likely ivm worked for many as well.
Meathead moron joe rogan had the answer, so did our government and doctors -and they kept it from us
Covid isn't a bioweapon, it's just a fictional desease. That's what happens when you spend too much time reading fictional news online. You wouldn't even know what this crap were if it wasn't for the internet. It's not real and you need to stop coping.
>I had long term symptoms from flu
>You had long term symptoms so it was the flu
>Your symptoms arent real
>But mine were
This is your brain on contrarian narrative overdose. long term symptoms have been documented in loads of different diseases and range wildly in duration and severity. For example SARS and MERS have had ~10% incidence of +4 year symptoms.
I had COVID for 3 days, but the coof and fatigue stayed with me for 2 weeks.
You were a moron to do it in the first place, but than God you made it anon. Glad to see you still with us, and no more shots.
>israel news
shiggydiggy
what news isn't?
It makes sense, they were the first to approve the vax and each booster
Also a population with near 100% vax rate
They're a reliable source when they are pro-MY Agenda.
>he doesn't know the 13th tribe of nonjews treats the actual israelites as goyim
> every source is a bad source for the goy
imagine my shock
https://www.lakemedelsverket.se/4a0b25/globalassets/dokument/nyheter/dhpc/comirnaty-spikevax-dhpc-2021-07-19.pdf
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2791253?guestAccessKey=b76ffbb1-d5c4-4f00-add1-a30d0dce45e7&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=042022
can you handle this redpill?
>red pill
the red pill is that flu/pneumonia is the number 1 comorbidity for covid deaths, accounting for 50% of all covid deaths according to the US CDC
medical malpractice is number 3 cause of death. Think about that for fricks sake.
Well of fricking course. Doctors are taught to treat, diagnose and operate on people. Not >people. Figures you will fail to treat an obese landwhale, when you cannot even measure its pulse without the use of heavy constrution equipment.
I would also bet that the fact, burgers refuse to go to a doctor untill the very last moment, when they are already coughing up blood, does not help.
In real world, it takes time to diagnose the cause of the problem, unlike an episode of House.SJ22
hello rabbi
>medical malpractice is number 3 cause of death
Where does it say that?
>Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death.
Fricking use Google you inbred subhuman
I wonder how's many "Covid deaths" were pure unrelated malpractice.
>Whoops, I accidentally sliced this man's aorta during surgery and he bled out
>Better shove a bunch of coin-flip PRC swabs up his moss so we can can get a false positive and call it a covid death!!!1111
>That way no one gets in trouble and we get grant money
>Better shove a bunch of coin-flip PRC swabs up his moss so we can can get a false positive and call it a covid death!!!1111
I doubt anyone calling RT-PCR tests a “coin-flip” has ever taken one
Dilate
I have a HWD unlike (You)
hug with dad?
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HWD
(Harmful Wealthy Doctor)
Humongous Willy Doctor
happa willy disorder
>Having a PCR test conducted on you makes you an expert on them
Nice try
this really happened to Brazil where corruption is notorious, it reached a point where it was so obvious and any death was counted as ~~*the coof*~~. Of course, the media spun this and said that it’s actually because “there’s so many cases in the country that hospitals are overwhelmed and have no choice to count it that way”, and they directed this fault at Bolsonaro because they got paid big money by lula (Brazilian biden) when he was president. And the legislations aren’t even decided by Bolsonaro at all because the Supreme Court in the country blocks literally everything, and the restrictions are decided by each region. I even had an uncle who died in a car accident and his death and certificate counted the coof as the cause. Brazil is a very lost country. The young generation especially
>Medical chart from law firm with zero sources cited
The only redpill here is that you are a moronic homosexual.
it's a pretty distant 3rd though I don't understand why that's controversial I don't have exact numbers but like "medical error" would I think less than a 5th of heart disease + cancer just based on the graph alone.
It's good for the bank accounts of those who sell it. You are no longer the consumer, the government is. Your health is now second. Hippocrates has been let down.
Anyone see the lawsuit vs. Astrazaneca? Astrazeneca lost. It's been causing Guillain Barre. I would encourage the people who were injured from these to start filing lawsuits, it might ne worth it after all. If this is the case politicians can be made accountable as well.
i thought these companies were exempt from being sued?
only in the US.
Nothing a fedpost can’t solve
>wins case
this means he has evidence the vaxx hurt him
The before Christ man?
Finally, a victory for the wightman
Bigots! It's BCE now.
lol
Iol, lmao. Of course theyre bad for you. These companies were all given a blank check by the goverment and are doing everthing in their power to attack people who don't want it. Whats beyond moronic is people act like its some holy comunion, like do any of these idiots stop to think maybe these phara companies dont give a frick about their health????
Have you guys actually spoken to any kinds of doctors/specialists about covid vaccine side effects?
Everytime I bring it up they all have the same reaction. They tense up and change body language immediately, and after a brief look of paranoia in their eyes they start reciting vaccine guidelines… as if I’m some kind of secret agent that’s been sent to spy on them and see if they’re saying anything bad about the vaccines
I’m not expecting the doctor to have any idea how to fix side effects of a vaccine, or even understand it, but it’s frightening to me how they’re so afraid.
It’s making me lose confidence in doctors and I find myself slowly becoming one of those schizos who doesn’t trust the medical profession
Is everyone here LARPing or just schizo?
Acting like every single medical worker is paid off directly by le big pharma and as soon as you mention something might be wrong with the vaccine they will literally attack you whilst shitting their pants and reciting guidelines.
Go to r/conspiracy next time and you will get 10 thousand updoots.
As a medical worker, I'd say half of my colleagues didn't even get the shot, and the ones that did don't really give a frick about it one way or the other. But when you get patients coming in with itchy butthole trying to blame it on the vaccine they got 9 months ago, it does get tiring.
I also don't really get the point of the graph. Yeah, it seems pretty obvious that medical errors will be made. It's not like medical errors account for the majority of mortalities/morbidities. Like... do these people think that there can be a system in place where medical errors stop existing?
It doesn't take every medical worker being an accomplice; it just takes the ones that know it's bullshit being complicit to the system and not calling it out. I have no faith in going to doctors for preventative treatments because they circumcise, knowing it's wrong, for the money. I only seek the medical community to fix shit when it's broken, now. I'm not going to trust the same professional system that molests boys for cash to beta test anything on me. Had two relatives, one old, one young, die of heart attacks within days of getting vaccinated. In the entire known history of our family there's no prevalence of heart attacks.
>circumcision
Never understood why americans do this.
Anyway, western medicine is good for a lot of things, such as injuries, acute health issues, infections, etc., and it is also not so good for a lot of things, mostly chronic diseases, ''treating'' obesity etc.
With covid, it's really hard to say. It's a new disease and nobody still knows what the frick it does to your body. Same with the vax. I always see people saying stuff like this, that half of their relatives died after the vax, whether on IST, fb, or other social media. But looking at the actual data, it just doesn't add up. So either 1) literally everyone that this happened to posts about it online all the time from multiple accounts, or 2) everyone in the medical field is complicit, or 3) most people are just making this shit up online.
You will get cancelled and blacklisted in the medical industry if you have any negative comment about the vaccine. That's really all the push most doctors need since they have no other careers to fall back on.
Now that is just bullshit. Well I dunno I'm not in USA but here in yurop, I have a lot of colleagues who are openly anti-vax and no one really gives a frick, unless they bother you with it or are interfering with the treatment - meaning e.g. if the national society for vaccinology sets guidelines for high risk patients who should be vaxxed, you can't just ignore that and tell your patients that vaxx is dangerous, when you know they're high-risk. But if you have a healthy 20-year old, no one is forcing you to push the vax on them.
Link to where your friends have publicly come out against the vaccines. Then we can see if they were punished.
OK. Can you read czech? I'll link this
https://deklaracelekaru.cz/podpisy.php
It's a declaration of doctors standing against vax propaganda. A lot of signatures, public, some very well-known doctors in there. Nobody got ''cancelled'', nobody got in trouble. And some fo these have gone far beyond just signing a petition. They've come out on TV or in other media, spouting misinformation about covid, vaccines in general, etc. Again, they all kept their jobs. That's just my sample from my small country.
Well it's actually you, who are pretending to know better than everyone else. I'm just stating that I do have a pretty good understanding of what's going, big part thanks to my education. Your arguments have not convinced of anything other than you being a schizo.
How do you want me to link to a personal conversation, moron?
I work in a cancer hospital and that’s absolutely not true here. Most of us are pro vaccine and also pro mandate for healthcare workers, but anti mandate for the general population. I’d go so far as to say being pro mandate for the general population will get a negative reaction here. Do you work in medicine? Or do you just have a vague impression of how you think the atmosphere is behind closed doors? Are you just making things up to for your narrative?
He's just a schizo probably
Its worse than doctors being spineless - they are NPCs that are programmable by the state.
Angloyim are born as slaves to the israelites, as such they must be marked
>2) everyone in the medical field is complicit
You wanna make it look like anon's having a delusion about le grande conspiracy when all it takes is medical personnel "trusting the experts" to be complicit in this, consciously or not.
>As a medical worker,
sure things
if you would work in the field you would know how spinles doctors are and how they cave to whatever the regulations say
it doest mean every single doctor is in on it and nobody said so
but you would damn well know that you cant speak out against the vaccine of fear of losing your licence
stop gaslighting you fricking c**t
>you cant speak out against the vaccine of fear of losing your licence
Because being anti-vax would demonstrate a fundamental flaw in your medical understanding and therefore your competence as a doctor
being anti vax? you mean anti rona experimental vax moron, not all vaccination is the same
first of all you have like few day of courses about vaccines
it would be stupid to think your average doc has a deep udnerstanding of vaccines unless you are a specialist
also its not about being antivaxx
its about being cautious with a rushed process for a method that never was before permitted
>few days of courses
top kek you really are clueless
you have like 20 hours of course on them max, if not like 10 pages on merck's manual
dude you have like 2 weeks on vaccines stfu and stop pretending thats not the case
two weeks surely make you an expert on the matter
How dogmatic and anti-scientific.
It’s dogmatic to say the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, too. At a certain point there are things we accept as absolutes until/unless some truly earth shattering counter-evidence is produced.
Oy vey
Flat and never ending.
>human medicine
>ever to be considered an absolute on anything
Lol. Lmao.
Classic israeli trick: trying to conflate "anti-vax" with "flat-earth" to avoid providing any arguments
The way you described dogma is pretty dogmatic bro.
>rent free
>yes, after medical school, your education is officially over, you can never learn any additional information about any topic, you are stuck with the things you learned forever
Actually, one good thing medical school does, is that you learn how to read and interpret scientific studies. So that you don't end up like morons on this site, and you can actually tell when a paper is trying to bamboozle you by cherrypicking data, using flawed methodology, misinterpreting results, p-hacking, etc.
There's a reason no one even peer-reviews the garbage 'publications' vax doomers keep linking to.
>if you dont blindly believe what is taught in med school it demonstrates a fundamental flaw in your medical understanding and therefore your competence as a doctor
>we only have a few weeks about vaccines
>me knowing how to read puts me on the level of experts
i think it only shows how delusional you are
Haha you almost make it sound like having a formal medical education somehow makes you lesser informed about medicine than the average shitposter. Anyway, the school teaches you a lot of basics, but you really start to learn stuff as you start working and/or doing research. Well, here's your last (you) from me.
If you wanna change the state of things, why don't you also become a doctor and do something? They won't accept your IST-approved license in your state?
i make it sound like dunning kruger effekt is an acutal thing
if you still want to pretend like you are an expert in the matter by my guest
Right so by your logic no one can be an expert on anything
you dont know what im talking about do you?
i specifically talk about family type doctor who had a minimum amount of knowledge about vaccines coming here pretending he is some kind of expert because he learned how to read in medschool
>family type doctor
When have I said that?
Wait you mean my speed-read article from the taiwanese book of doctoring doesn't carry the same weight as your article from the new england journal of medicine???
>My certainty about the safety and efficacy of the shot is equal to the certainty that the earth will keep rotating.
Medical doctors once again showing they have no grasp of uncertainty and probability. I have yet to meet one that gets anything beyond risk ratios. topkek
>product is such an abysmal failure you have to change the definitions of vaccine to make it apply
>if you don't want to consume my product you're anti-science
You guys really do believe that words are magic and you can just change reality by lying hard enough, huh?
The definition was changed to brainlets like you would stop spouting bullshit about vaccines making you invulnerable to the disease in question forever.
Even before Covid you had to get regular (3-10) years boosters of many vaccines, influenza, tetanus, hepatitis, you name it.
I like your lumping in notoriously ineffective flu shots with tetanus and hepatitis vaccinations. Could it possibly be that the reason we don't have to worry about lockjaw is that clostridium has changed very little since the early 20th century when we started inoculation against it? As a peabrain I think I'll stick with not turning my immune system into a subscription service though.
And yet you also should get tetanus/hepatitis/measles etc. boosts every couple of years because immunity wanes over time, despite hep B being pretty much unchanging
None of which explode my heart and all of which work for multiple years.
I'm a medical doctor and I can say whatever the frick I want about vaccines and no one can take away my license, unless I'm actively breaking some law, or hurting a patient by breaking guidelines. You are the one who has no idea what the frick they're talking about here mate.
But again, I live in yurop. If US is truly so cucked that you can lose your license for speaking out against vaccines, then good luck living there.
Why is a medical doctor on IST
Why not. Got the day off so I'm shitposting. I've been coming on IST since I was 17 years old.
How old are you now?
28 why?
Not that anon, but I have a PhD in chemistry, specialized in nanomaterials
There's more of us than you'd think
Also, I'm 36
>don't forget, you're here forever
>> But again, I live in yurop. If US is truly so cucked that you can lose your license for speaking out against vaccines, then good luck living there.
You can’t here either, schizo is just spouting off a dystopia that doesn’t exist but fits his worldview. A comfortable lie, literally blue pilled.
>But again, I live in yurop
https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/news/hausarzt-will-nicht-mehr-gegen-corona-impfen-uni-entzieht-ihm-deshalb-lehrerlaubnis_id_24427159.html
Well, they took away one of his licenses in Germany.
Nobody is accusing every medical worker of being directly paid off, you're attacking a strawman. It's very plausible that social pressure is enough, and people who don't toe the line are demoted or fired.
I got cosmetic surgery right before covid hit. When I came for a follow up a little over a year later, my surgeon asked if I got the vaccine. I said no, and he gave the standard speech about why the vax is great and that I should get it. But then interestingly, he kind of said in a roundabout way that getting the vaccine wouldn't really matter due to me being young and so healthy, and that ultimately it's my personal choice.
I had a root canal and the dentist wouldn't shut the frick up about it.
Damn. My dentist has never even brought it up thankfully
I'm on the east coast. This entire place is bugmen.
Ah. I'm in the midwest. A good 35% of my state refused to get the vaccines and I've encountered a lot of vaxxed people who are now refusing to get the boosters. Definitely a culture divide.
>I find myself slowly becoming one of those schizos who doesn’t trust the medical profession
It's not schizo. You shouldn't trust them. They israelite teeth. They mutiliate baby dicks. They recommend sneed oils. Enough personal experience with them and you'll see, or you can take it from the people warning you.
I went to /med/ on the science board and asked them, how do you become "one of those people who've made very few [social] mistakes" (their description for doctor)? They said to never argue. You can't get sued for doing what everyone else is doing. They always do this. I read up on Gilbert Ling's alternative cell theory and he said at one point:
>So I asked myself and my audience what is the point of singling out one item and propose a theory specifically dealing with that one item alone and turn our back on everything else? That was more or less the question on which I ended my talk. I was entirely unprepared for what followed almost immediately after I stepped down from the podium. For two of my most respected professors approached me in turn and using almost exactly the same words, gave me the same message: The sodium pump is a sacred cow. Leave it alone. There is no point making yourself a martyr.
Anyone who disagrees, no matter the content of their arguments, is made to be a schizo. Disagreeing with things does not make you a schizo, it is the content of your arguments which decide if you are schizo or not.
Tomatoes, bros
Tomatoes
Why are Israelis so determined to tell the dangers of the vaccine to the goyim?
>Tfw never fell for the biggest psyop in history
I faked my card and lied about being boosted to uni and my doctor. Doc put it on my medical file, will never get vaxxed. I did frick a lot of vaccinated girl pussy though
how did you fake it?
>Fricking a vaxxy
It's in your blood now
See while I appreciate you being of this mindset, the only real way to make any difference would have been to stand on your principles. I got fired from my job, and have ceased medical school plans over the vaxx requirements.
Or just wait for the vaxxies to die and inherit the earth.
>tfw
>mfw
>>Tfw never fell for the biggest psyop in history
Feelsgoodman
THIS IS NOW A HWD THREAD
Take the humoral pathology pill.
Ever wonder why all people in the world ate the same things 1000 years ago? From Delhi to London? It's because it works.
It's your life, HWD King -- live it
You are starting to sound like some granny on facebook.
> all the people in the world ate the same thing 1000 years ago
potatoes only came to europe ~500 years ago, and nothern america 400 years ago
tomatoes arrived in italy~500 years ago
the english conquered india ~500 years ago and came across spices
go back to facebook
Talmud bros???
We obeyed are we not safe??
HWD
dafuq is hwd
Hylics with downsyndrome
Vaccsines? No.
Modern medicine? No.
Experimental shit with little to no testing, where every Big Pharma knows the first one to the market will earn billions? Gee I wonder.
vaxxheads absolutely seething and coping lately. we tried to warn you.
2 more weeks right? Dang.
>goyshot gives you heart problems
fricking crazy how we've been saying that for a year yet we got banned and censored to oblivion and labeled as "science-denying nazis."
Because the Infowars/Flat-Earthers/Anti-Vax/Home Schooled Q Anon crowd keep throwing spaghetti and sauce at the wall, so even if nothing sticks it still leaves a stain.
you know 99% of the q anon shit you see on the internet are bots spreading propaganda right? there is nothing wrong with homeschooling or antivax. they did the same shit in the 60s with hippies by supplying them with LSD.
>all those buzzwords
anon come out of 2016
move on
your family worries about you
where the frick is the study holy shit
60 replies and no one posts the sources
>midwits are surprised that sucking up to multi billion dollar pharmaceutical cartels wasn't actually resisting capitalism all along
you love to see it
LMFAO
>Is vaccines and modern medicine actually bad for your health?
Absolutely. Vaccines are based on a flawed theory. They don't and will never work as intended.
http://whale.to/a/vonderplanitz3.html
http://whale.to/index.html
Jesus fricking Christ wtf is this schizo website
Lmfao
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
> what was polio
just because the israelitepox was a global money making scheme, doesn't mean tried and true vaccines are invalid
moron
kys
You did not read the link nor refute the claims so your opinion is irrelevant.
>Is vaccines and modern medicine actually bad for your health
no
the rona vax is sure but in general vaccines have helped to eliminate or greatly reduce the prevalence of several diseases
before the advent of the covid vax turning out to be poison, being anti vax was a surefire way to sniff out a schizo moron. now unfortunately those with legitimate concerns over the current jab get lumped in with this previous group in an attempt to discredit said concerns.
>experts say
http://whale.to/index.html
This is who you are debating science with - don't engage lunatics/morons.
>Pfizer for 18 to 24 was 52 cases per million
0.0052 chance. BIG if true.
To all the vaxbros:
Remember that you are literal human cattle with no free will, coping and convincing yourselves that it was for the greater good or whatever. Doesn't matter if the "vaccine" was giga poison or just saline, out of principle alone you are not a man and are a weak-minded drone.
t. 32, lives with mother, khv
>y-you're a virgin
Correct. Your perception of reality is warped by the fact of your being outcast by society and women.
Outstanding projection.
I didn't call vaccinated people human cattle, incel. Cope and touch grass.
Also, you can't complain about ad hominem when that's the basis for your entire argument.
Yet you are here on the same le incel forum spoutimg sententious ramblings as if you're some arbiter of "normal society" and ad populuming like the drone you are.
Moo harder for me, moron.
oh no no no no
this "man" got social shamed into taking a vaccine that doesn't work
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA
I accept your concession.
>Yet you are here on the same le incel forum spoutimg sententious ramblings as if you're some arbiter of "normal society" and ad populuming like the drone you are.
>Moo harder for me, moron.
try hookers
>Im le superior because i trust pol
>DBZ
CRINGEEEEEEE
I don't go to r/pol
You literally got brainwashed by chink and russian shills on /misc/. Keep on thinking you are le free thinker though when I can say without a doubt that you are a literal moron
So this is the power of public schooling. Unquestioning worship of the state.
it’s a glowBlack person anon, don’t pay any attention to him
>bring up chinks and russian shills
>YOURE A GLOWIE
Every single time
The chinks and russians aren't enslaving me. They also aren't actively destroying my currency. They also don't call me a terrorist or actively try to disarm me. They also don't attempt to brainwash my kids using money they stole from me. My government does though.
Kek this is an actual chink and/or vatnik shill. Same generic response as they always do. Claim that the American government is a greater evil than them, and that the American government hates their own people. Next he will probably accuse me of being a redditor,trans, or supporter of "globohomo". Everytime
I'm just a run of the mill libertarian.
why are you trying this hard to shill? Is shekelberg taxpaying you a commission for each reply? you’ve blown your cover as a fed now that you’re seething this much, you’re obviously new to the job
>You are le shill not me
~~**~~
up chinks and russian shills
A GLOWIE
correct.
>those seething replies
They know it’s true and will continue to be true until they return to dust, it’s hilarious, frick vaxxies for bending the knee
Ultra BASED
> takes contrarian position along with millions of of other mouth breathing contrarians
> thinks for himself
some of us had to take the vax to travel or work homosexual, we have lives to live. go outside and touch grass, people irl arn't the homosexuals you are spoon fed on social media
>had to take the vax to travel or work
OH NOOOOO you couldn't go to Disneyland with Shekelberg Industries without the mystery shot! Oh I understand now. Good goy.
i have family abroad you homosexual moron, people who care for me and who i care for
if you had people who actually wanted to spend time with you, you'd understand
listen man i know it sucks that you were coerced into getting a depop shot but we're really not the people you should be taking your anger out on
thanks friend :^)
I do have people I care about. They chose to completely isolate themselves from all family members that don't have the shot. Funny enough, I'm the only one in my surviving family that hasn't gotten it.
You'd think a "safe and effective" shot would protect them from the ONE PERSON that doesn't have it but I was told to trust the science.
okay
Your gigantic COPE about being literal CATTLE is so fricking DELICIOUS
>tfw you f up you and your progeny's DNA because of your ancestors peer pressure
could of gotten a fake card, come’on man. If you die from vax your senpai would never see you again. THINK.
absolutely based
still better than being a mass psyop lab rat
Truth hurts
Quickness to take an experimental drug for a cold is a true sign of cattle, weak will to impose their view on the world, or both
This HWD knows.
We need more based anons like u these days
There is literally zero benefit to getting the jab unless you're over 80. Anyone unironically defending it at this point is a paid shill or an NPC. Major pharma corporations have proven themselves to not give a single shit about the health of the general public time and time again. Fauci is literally paid by big pharma companies to shill their drugs through research grants and ownership stakes in drug patents. The CDC is run by people trying to get a career in the private sector where they make money hand over fist. Cash starved news outlets receive money from Pfizer and the like to push their "miracle cures" on the general public, who never considers an alternative. It should be plainly obvious that the jabs were just a way for Pharma to make tens of billions of dollars and for those in power to gauge just how much of the general public will accept any declaration without question. People willingly branded themselves as cattle because they were too afraid to give up lives of decadence or to be seen as an outsider. This was never about your health or mine, otherwise they would be doing something about factory farms and processed food.
based department
This. Either you were vaxxed or you weren't.
You can tell it was shilling hours/shill thread start by the seething replies at the start.
>Yet you are here on the same le incel forum spoutimg sententious ramblings as if you're some arbiter of "normal society" and ad populuming like the drone you are.
>bunkertroony gets rekt
>starts spaming chudjaks
Every time
I kekd lmao
yes
If you are a doctor for a big Massachusetts hospital, you cannot be anticovid vax. You have to conform. Im Sure its the same for many other states. Not sure what some people in this thread are smoking
They're smoking their shift hours because they are paid.
the left cant meme
>nice argument but i made you a onions jack and made myself gigachad in this meme so you lose
Go back to plebbit
Soijaks were like two years ago bro
So it's been two years and still no side effects? Two more years I guess...
Spot where i had this fricking vaccine
This one shows it better. Fricking hell this set me back
I’ve personally noticed becoming extremely lazy after being forced to take it, I lost a lot of gains because of slacking but the vax is the root problem
Im tired all the time now
it’s strange it’s not even a “worn out” normal kind of tired, it’s like I suddenly have insulin or anemic problems and am demotivated.
parents. they’ve bribed me for long time and bothered me to get it, I only did it because I love them, and don’t want them losing their minds over bullshit and shorten their life, even though I tried talking them into leaving it alone my voice always falls on deaf ears.
I feel bad for people with shitty parents.
Why the frick did you even take the pharmaceutical product?
Im a school teacher, it was legally required
>i'm a welfare queen who indoctrinates children
and I am pro school shooting
I teach English
It's a private school and we did a unit on climate change where we thoroughly discussed both sides of the issue including evidence given by people who do not believe in climate change being a man-made occurrence.
I was very impressed by how genuinely this topic was handled at the school I work at. With different statistics and research being shown from both sides.
The only time homosexuality has even been brought up in any qualified taught is when discussing how Kim jong-un Rose to power in North Korea and when some older material include music from Ricky Martin and students were curious about him.
I don't work at a government School.
You’ll be dead within 5 years. Sorry, but
You should have listened. Screencap this and have someone hand out fliers of it at your funeral.
Yes it is focused around profits. If you have a problem they will give you a medicine to treat that problem and give you more problems down the line. Rinse and repeat.
Poorgay who took sinovac here. What are the chances I had myocarditis or some form of heart damage?
>took it late 2021, only took one dose
>had no immediate side effects other than sore arm and tiredness
>around 2 months in started to get random chest tightness, doesn't seem related to physical exertion only because sometimes happens at rest too
>3 months in, one day get tachycardia out of nowhere while getting up from bed, this triggers a panic attack which worsens anxiety for the next 3 months
>go to doctor, tests and blood panels say I'm fine and it's just "anxiety"
>can't walk more than 10 minutes without breathlessness accompanied with throat tightness
>used to be able to run 10k no problem
>now have palpitations and/or skipped beats sometimes with mild fainting spells couple times per week
>have foamy pee and sometimes pale stools
If doctor said i appear to be fine and I admit I also already had anxiety, what are the chances I have actual heart damage? It's been six months since then. I'm improving very slowly.
Start taking 1000% DV vitamin c and 300% DV zinc and get a lot of sunlight. It will help detox your body. Optional supplements that I encourage are ginseng, milk thistle, and wolfs bane.
Is ascorbic acid really that much worse than liposomal vit c? I wonder just how much of it was preexisting conditions worsened by the vaxx, like it's just weird it's slowly getting worse 6 months in. I started eating some 200g-500g of beef liver for the zinc and I can confirm I feel slightly, but definitely not placebo better. Will up my intake then. What's zinc best form? Most sellers sell zinc gluconate.
>milk thistle
Heard great things about it, is there any advantage from making tea from dried flowers vs capsules?
Wish I could anon but as I said
>poor
Nope. Ordered a monitor yesterday. A healthy person shouldn't have blood pressure swings like that but I suspect it is that too, low bp specifically.
How did you fix yours? I started adding more sodium to my diet, cut down a bit on garlic and beets. Do you have good gut health?
find a way to get a chest ultrasound done. only way to relieve your anxiety would be to see if theres physical damage observable to the eye.
not a doctor, but you are NOT fine, find someone who will treat you.
sounds real dumb and simple, but have you had your blood pressure checked recently?
i got low blood pressure and it was triggering anxiety attacks with many symptoms you describe (pre coof and vaccine)
everything bar the out of breath thing fits what happened to me
can go into more detail if you would like
100%. I haven't gone to a primary care doctor in probably close to 10 years because they basically do nothing other than parrot things that should be obvious, tell me to come back in a month, and charge me a lot of money.
There are a lot of other things too. Like honestly I think people are overly hygienic and wash their hands/shower way too much. Like no shit you should wash your hands thoroughly and mask up before doing surgery, but washing/showering constantly is bad for your skin and the natural bacterial flora that live there. And it fricks up your hair.
Like seriously do you know how much bacteria/mold/etc you breathe in with every breath?
Another example. Went to the podiatrist for some foot pain, they recommended I wear custom orthotics *for the rest of my life*. Keep in mind I was pain free the week prior and their solution was to change my biomechanics forever. I literally just rested for two weeks and got a new pair of running shoes and haven't had any issues since.
It's a combination of - we aren't as smart as we think we are + doctors are lazy people like everyone else and want to take the easy route out as much as they can.
basically this
doctors are people too, and people are socialised animals and lazy
thinking the medical industry is all on cahoots on this shill is very moronic, ~~*they'd*~~ lose all the money they made off the damn coof doing that
The way doctors have shelled out opoids to the obvious and ascertainable detriment to many of their patients for decades now is a powerful example of how the medical community can in fact do things which are bad for their patients.
Whether these mistakes can be attributed to ignorance, corruption, social and professional pressures, or bad science is debatable, however the presumption of widespread doctor falliability on any given issue or treatment is not really debatable.
133x times is not enough to prove a correlation, clearly heart disease is on the rise, the vaccine is safe and tested, please take your 5th dose
Yes like the motorcyclist who was decapitated his cause of death was clearly covid because there's a possibility that covid called him to cough and lose control of his motorcycle which is what caused the crash and is decapitation so clearly we are not being dishonest or disingenuous at all and you can definitely trust all the scientists
Your article says that’s comparisons to the post infection vaccines are irrelevant because the vaccine is no longer effective. Meaning everyone is getting Covid and everyone is getting myocarditis.
There is no article.
There is an ~~*israel news*~~ article showing recent israel data demonstrating higher rates of myocarditis in the vaccinated
Jews are puppets to the Khazarians.
It's a relative risk. What's 133x 0.000001?
I know a feller about my age (30ish) that I played ball with in high school. Anyways he is a good guy, high strung I guess, anyways he had a great aunt or something die from covid and got spooked into getting the vaxx. I was texting him about work like a year ago and he tells me that the second dose of the vaccine fricked his blood pressure and heart up and now he is on medication for it long term. Doctor told him it was a vaccine complication.
Crazy thing is, after this happened, he doubled down on supporting the vaxx. Almost like it was easier to just be in denial and double down than to admit he made a choice that fricked his own heart kek. Insane.
a family member of mine did similar, a week after second jab, he got heart problems and had to undergo heart surgery, cut open his ribcage and performed a double bypass. he said it was a coincidence, that the males on his side were prone to heart disease due to elevated cholesterol (which some other anon said is not the cause but a symptom of clogged arteries). he's also on long-term (lifetime?) meds for that. says it wasn't the vaxx, still supports it. the cognitive dissonance is frightening.
>tfw Grad Student in Virology, working with CoV-2 daily
>tfw I both think the virus isn't as terrible as everyone claims but I also know the vaccines work because I literally measure patient sera for neutralization
It's a strange feel
so it's not worth taking, got it
if you think the virus is not that terrible then why not come to the logical conclusion that the vaccine is not necessary regardless if it does nothing or really is what it’s speculated to be.
I mean I already know the answer ~~*why*~~ but I still don’t understand why no one IRL can come to this thought let alone accept it
Correction: The virus is not terrible if you're not immunocompromised, geriatric or severly overweight
My dad was none of that and was in a coma for two weeks though
He probably was overweight and vitamin deficient. I had it and kicked it in two days, partially with the help of sauna.
I-I wonder why the news won't say anything about it
https://rumble.com/voz64j-brought-to-you-by-pfizer.html
Yes, numeds are about customers and control not actual rehabilitation and cures.
You may die, which is normal
https://rumble.com/vs5ra1-covid-19-vaccine-collapse-compilation.html
Covid ended up having a 0.3% death rate(yes, including those car accidents)
For comparison, the flu is 0.1~0.2%
https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf
Yeah because virtually every country in the world with the means to actually track Covid deaths shat themselves and tried to keep their hospitals from being overwhelmed, then pushed the vaccine as fast as possible.
For the flu no one really cares.
>He thinks that's what actually happend
Most countries didn't do shit about covid, you just didn't know because international travel was restricted
The last couple of winters were little different to previous ones.
>Is vaccines and modern medicine actually bad for your health?
A cured patient is lost customer
Covid does damage your heart in a weird way, makes it temporarily pump really fast. But this lasts about 1-3 hours. The covid vaccine probably also acts on the heart but for a far longer duration than vast majority of covid cases
Feels good, bros.
Soon!
any moment now, any moment
People who thought people would be dying overnight from the vaxx are delusional, things like this will take decades to start showing but you can bet there's going to be an increase in cancer deaths related to the vaxx. Even minisculely polluted water shows up in cancer rates and that's considered a tragedy.
Autoimmune shit (including lymphoma and leukemia) was an imminent concern during testing of mRNA vax prior to like 2019. They just ignored the studies when covid started. The other major concern was ADE.
None of the literature ever predicted the clots and heart issues though. That was bizarre.
>posting random pol schizo to cope with your conformist sheep mentality
Seethe and dilate.
>got the shot most world governments, media, most corporations, majority of leftists, good portion of rightoids, and all levels of medical "professionals" shilled relentlessly for a year
>calling others conformist
lol
lmao
I have a "friend" who still believes this is going to happen
This is stupid, frick off moron that post was 2021 and September passed like nothing
This guy gets it tho, it's not about vaxxines being literal death sentences, it's about thr cuck man you'd have to he to fall for something like that, i bet most vaxxed ppl support circumcision too
nice fanfic, where can I read chapter 2?
>1 screenshot of a likely troll
>vs
>countless instances of the vax killing people/screwing up their hearts for life
Haha wow I'm convinced I don't wanna be dumb like him
This is dumb as frick, but so are you for taking the vax.
Completely unvaxxed
Never taken a test
Never caught covid
Haven't been ill in like 5 years
6'4 and 7 inch wiener
200kg deadlift and 94kg bench press
>6'4 and 7 inch wiener
>200kg deadlift and 94kg bench press
Anon we use pounds.
Isn't that a torrent website?
Industrial society is bad for your health
No refunds
bros should I stop taking my thyroid meds?
Yeah, duh
Not those as a practice, but the lack of accountability and medical corporate incest with the federal government is the problem