Depends. It helps you accepting the unacceptable conditions. Had you been born 500 years ago, you'd be lean and strong by default. The modern life makes lifting necessary in order to stay in shape. Those who don't push themselves further are bound to become fat slobs. System likes its slaves obese, they're easier to control.
Bodybuilding just for the sake of vanity is definitely a surrogate activity though.
I read his manifesto a month ago, and I haven't stopped thinking about surogate activities ever since. I mean, out of all the ways I distract myself, the gym has some positives. I wonder what I would look and feel like if I was just fit through foraging, hunting, etc... even just having time to wander around aimlessly. Can't do that where I live though. I'm in a flyover state hell-hole where pitbulls are terrorizing the neighborhood. Have to drive to get anywhere peaceful.
from paragraph 84 of Uncle Ted's manifesto:
a surrogate activity is an activity that is directed toward an artificial goal that the individual pursues for the sake of the “fulfillment” that he gets from pursuing the goal, not because he needs to attain the goal itself. For instance, there is no practical motive for building enormous muscles, hitting a little ball into a hole or acquiring a complete series of postage stamps. Yet many people in our society devote themselves with passion to bodybuilding, golf or stamp-collecting.
Ted never specified that he was against surrogate activities did he? I thought that the point was that society was the problem such that you shouldnt be compelled to pursue surrogates in the first place, not that you should avoid them to better your life. modern life is all bs anyways 🙁
Uncle Ted wants you to build muscle pulling tree roots and boulders out of your farmland soil, not building muscle lifting heavy discs.
Basically, cut out the middle men between you and nature.
i don't know what this means but you're gay however i like ted he is cool, cheers
>Ted is cool
>Not having read even the first 10 pages or so of his most famous book
Yeah
Depends. It helps you accepting the unacceptable conditions. Had you been born 500 years ago, you'd be lean and strong by default. The modern life makes lifting necessary in order to stay in shape. Those who don't push themselves further are bound to become fat slobs. System likes its slaves obese, they're easier to control.
Bodybuilding just for the sake of vanity is definitely a surrogate activity though.
I read his manifesto a month ago, and I haven't stopped thinking about surogate activities ever since. I mean, out of all the ways I distract myself, the gym has some positives. I wonder what I would look and feel like if I was just fit through foraging, hunting, etc... even just having time to wander around aimlessly. Can't do that where I live though. I'm in a flyover state hell-hole where pitbulls are terrorizing the neighborhood. Have to drive to get anywhere peaceful.
I'm pretty sure he literally said it was in ISAIF
Yes. But as surrogate activities go you could do a lot worse.
The real question is:
>Could lifting have saved him?
from paragraph 84 of Uncle Ted's manifesto:
a surrogate activity is an activity that is directed toward an artificial goal that the individual pursues for the sake of the “fulfillment” that he gets from pursuing the goal, not because he needs to attain the goal itself. For instance, there is no practical motive for building enormous muscles, hitting a little ball into a hole or acquiring a complete series of postage stamps. Yet many people in our society devote themselves with passion to bodybuilding, golf or stamp-collecting.
Ah, I see.
Uncle Ted is moronic.
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Ted is right, we should get out fitness from hunting animals and fighting each other for dominance, and it should come natural
>fitness from hunting animals and fighting each other for dominance
you can already do that, join a fight gym and buy a hunting rifle
Sure but those are also surrogate activities, we don't need those to survive
Going to the gym is a surrogate activity IF you are going there to work out.
If you are going to the gym to spread your seed, it is not.
Depending how you define working out will change if it is a surrogate activity or not.
It really depends on WHAT is causing you to work out.
To be strong and fit to attract a potential mate to reproduce and be in good shape to raise the kid.
Working out is a surrogate to killing myself
Yeah, it's a pretty prime example of a surrogate activity. Just about everything you do in your day is a surrogate activity.
Ted never specified that he was against surrogate activities did he? I thought that the point was that society was the problem such that you shouldnt be compelled to pursue surrogates in the first place, not that you should avoid them to better your life. modern life is all bs anyways 🙁
I thought the whole point was that they're wastes of time
Where did he say that?
Uncle Ted wants you to build muscle pulling tree roots and boulders out of your farmland soil, not building muscle lifting heavy discs.
Basically, cut out the middle men between you and nature.
Well said