Isn't upper body pretty much solved my picrel?

Isn't upper body pretty much solved my picrel?
What's stopping me from dropping barbell workout in favor of more calisthenics volume? What muscles am I even missing here?
The sensation of having full control over your body is crazy good.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just do it all brah
    calisthenix gives good back gains EXCEPT the traps (unless ur doing some crazy airborne inverted rows (ur not)) and will leave the spinal ERECTORS underdeveloped. Do u want underdeveloped ERECTORS???
    Deadlift, RDL, shrugs solve this
    WAGMI

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Isn't upper body pretty much solved my picrel?
      It isn't according to the morons on IST, which means you should double doune

      I am doing those though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one is saying you can't make gains on calisthenics, it's just moronic to purposefully avoid weights if you aren't doing it out of necessity. Why would you do inverted rows if you're already in the gym? Scared to get some actual back thickness doing real rows

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah the only calisthenicstards that are big are the ones that do weighted calisthenics and ignore the skill aspect of the sport. planches and levers and other shit like that don't build mass. inverted rows are real rows as long as you weight them like any other exercise, and they don't fatigue your lower back like bent over rows. win win imo

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't go to the gym homie, I own a pullup bar, a pair of rings and I live in a hilly country

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Upper pecs, traps, erectors, side delts.
    Sure, there are some calisthenic moves you can do for the first 3 (decline push ups, inverted shrugs & inverted deadlift), but the side delts can be tricky. Maybe inverted upright rows? Y raises with rings?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You would need to add rings and bands
      >Ring pike push ups and RTO push ups hit upper chest
      >Heavy resistance band upright rows for traps, side delts
      >Band lateral raises for more side delts
      >Band face pulls for rear delts
      >Band good mornings for erectors (it's not much but with a heavy enough band you could do something)
      Plus other stuff like ring bicep curls, ring inverted rows etc. This is just for upper body of course, for legs hiking would be the best solution that doesn't involve gym weights.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you use bands instead of just using a barbell? The resistance curve is shit, there's no proper progressive overload, and they'll never allow you to attain the strength of which especially your posterior chain is capable. Better than nothing, sure, but nothing's "solved" here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can do bodyweight lateral raises against a wall, but it gives less ROM unless you use a towel or something to slide your arm against the wall. Considering the all the evidence about lengthened partials being better for hypertrophy its actually a very good option

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shoulders are solved by just incorporating dumbbells and doing Lu raises to failure, superset with lateral raises to failure.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    add farmer's carry

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You still need to increase weight.
    I've spent two years doing high volume weighted dips and ohp/incline for assistance. My pecs actually shrunk. Tris grew. Those were gironda dips too, supposed to be great for pecs. I am going back to flat bench, even though I hate the lift. And use dips for assistance.

    Chins are ok but they're not gonna give you a big entire back. You'll have well developed teres major, bis, lats (but your lower lats will probably suck). Heavy rows will give you that, plus lower lats, plus traps, plus rhomboids.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you probably just have body dysphoria

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Lu raises
    people aren't seriously doing this roided bugman gimmick right? it's a meme because he was desperate to "leave a mark" in fitness culture

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shoulders are solved by just incorporating dumbbells and doing Lu raises to failure, superset with lateral raises to failure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Needs weight

      >it's a meme because he was desperate to "leave a mark" in fitness culture
      As if winning the Olympics was less of a mark than having a random exercise named after you?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Isn't upper body pretty much solved my picrel?

    >no shoulders
    >no direct pec work
    >no direct biceps work

    No

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I made nearly 0 progress with calisthenics for the better part of a year, how do people even try hard past like 8 reps? It feels stupid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it makes zero sense to purposely gimp your training for no reason. Dips and pull-ups are good, but it's serious to not train with weights also

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s fricking moronic to limit yourself to it unless you’re dirt poor or in prison. But I did calisthenics during lockdown and I’d just add a rep every workout. It was inferior to lifting weights but still effective. It was actually WAY harder- doing ultra high reps ie 50+ is miserable- for worse results but it worked.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a way to get a wider back with just callisthenics? I've been doing chinups, pullups and pushups for more than a year, and while the rest of my muscles have somewhat developed, I just can't get a bigger back.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      get a ring and do inverted rows

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are calisthenicsgays so afraid of using weights and machines?
    Unless you're a poorgay there's no reason to only do calisthenics. I love weighted pull ups and dips but using dumbbells and made my arms grow much faster than adding 5kg to my weighted chin up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      About half of alternative fitness is based on an inferiority syndrome around bodybuilders.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chest will look like shit and side delts/upper chest are pretty much the most important areas for sexual dimorphism

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly do both. Weighted pull-ups, dips, great exercises. Bench press, ohp etc, also great. Frick the gay minimalist approach

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no need for weighted chins. do leg raises instead. use narriwer grip on pull ups. ignore yokegays and t-rexes

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do whatever you want, you're body off spreading your sets over different exercises though. If you're working with any intensity an exercise should be useless after 3-4sets

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Add log press for shoulders

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You will be bottom heavy if you do only this or prioritize it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/WJFoBt2.jpeg

      Isn't upper body pretty much solved my picrel?
      What's stopping me from dropping barbell workout in favor of more calisthenics volume? What muscles am I even missing here?
      The sensation of having full control over your body is crazy good.

      There’s the big problem. The lower chest already develops much more easily than the upper chest. Only doing dips is a great way to get boob pecs. Upper chest is vital for aesthetics

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the difference between these 2 guys' pecs is just genetics. guy on the right lifts weights too btw.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not just genetics, every calisthenic gay looks like right, no yoke, b***h breasts and massive lats and that's it. And yes he does lift weights but he prioritizes the dip and pull ups

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Incline cable flues literally changed my life. I was skinny and now I'm huge, nothing else can I attribute to such muscularity besides standing db rear delr flies.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your pecs, delts and bi's won't get enough from just doing this unless you are a manlet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Try and reliably hit the lower part of the erector spinae in lieu of a barbell.

      You'd be better off hammering crunches to grow your triceps.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dips have never once felt right to me. Always feels like they're fricking something. Elbow, shoulder, something.

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