Just asking?

IST did building more muscle (eventhough you're not fat) help you get laid?
Did you working for abs, a v-taper, in other words a low bodyfat% and overall solid muscle definition actually help you?
Did you start cold approaching, using Tinder, Bumble, Instagram to show off when you reached the goals I mentioned above?
Or did women have the guts to approach you instead?
Regarding most of the IST related hobbies I've seen so far:
I just love to cook, play guitar (mostly acoustic and alone), I've recently been hitting the gym too.
Look, I understand that I should continue lifting for myself:
However, deep down I just want to get a hot girlfriend and have sex with her on the regular.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Did working

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My brother, I'm a balding 32 year old male and just a few weeks ago I had zoomer sluts massaging my biceps at the club.
    Don't listen to the blackpillers, muscle just werks for making you more physically attractive.

    Women will smile more, they will linger their gaze on you longer, they'll lean on you. Women want nothing more than a man with big shoulders and arms.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also dudes will respect you more, they'll treat you like a cool guy, bartenders become more attentive.

      Pretty much everything in your life improves when you become jacked

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My personal favorite is coping MMA manlets getting drunk and swearing up and down they can kick my ass if we ever came to blows then when i oblige its something like "nah man its disrespectful to fight someone untrained blah blah" when i was a lanklet this never occured but once i hit 210-215 its almlst every time i go out

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >then the whole room clapped

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also dudes will respect you more, they'll treat you like a cool guy, bartenders become more attentive.

      Pretty much everything in your life improves when you become jacked

      Alright bros, I've already started hitting the gym, though I'm still going to believe what both of you have said.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It can never hurt you to have large biceps, never.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As another fellow baldbro whos on the early side of 30s, what's your thoughts on a bodytype to aim for? I was chasing ottermode for awhile but I think you need to be younger and a prettyboy to make ot really work...something a bald dude who's 30 can't really do.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The otters have genes for it. They swim because they look like that, not the other way around. Find out what works for you. More lean/athletic, bear or something else.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I definitely don't have the genes to naturally stay lean. Ive been shredded before and it was incredibly exhausting to get to. What I gain weight on, guys my age and height can cut on. Sucks big time. Thinking about picrel

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Having a decent physique helps a lot. Women out there are not waiting for a cbum body, most of them like some visible muscles on arms and shoulders and normal to low body fat.
    Though that's just the aesthetics which I consider is like 60%. The remaining 30% is your personality, charisma, game, etc and the remaining 10% is status.

    So work on your body, but also on your mind. Cheers and good luck. You can make it. Sounds complicated but once you get it, it becomes super easy.

    t. 34 yo married man with a kid and lots of experience on the dating field.

    Good luck, mate.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Status is really that low in terms of importance?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am IST for 8 years straight, lift and eat better than anyone around me.

    Never even kissed, let alone got laid.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have actually tried wearing clothes that show off your muscles and hit on women?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always wear fitted clothes. Yes I've asked girls out, obviously with zero results.

        From my experience girls really don't care about muscles that much, in fact I only get compliments about my muscles from men, not women.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          seems like u're just ugly, get to 12% bf and try again.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >get to 12% bf
            I already am. Was never fat in my entire life really

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post body this is definetly not true, you are just turbosperg or lying

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Believe what you want to believe.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Could you give an example of show off clothing?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you actually go outside for anything other than what is required of you?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I'm not some cartoon tier basement dwelling shut in. I go to various concerts/festivals with friends, hiking/travels here and there on the weekend, standard shit really.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is your face busted?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really. Just a tad bit below average I'd say, not straight up ugly but certainly not handsome either.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yup, just wear form fitting clothes. im already a good looking guy and when i got fit the female attention i got exploded 10x. i dont think its gonna help much if u're an ugly fucker tho, it's just an enhancer.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Giddy

    When i was 18-21 it helped

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It does. Looks certainly help, I’d argue that for non-committed dating it’s extremely important. Bit more important than that is understanding intersexual dynamics, i.e. being redpilled. Otherwise you’ll still manage to talk yourself out of getting laid.

    After hitting the gym and growing a beard (weak chin), Tinder results improved dramatically. Also, few girls have spontaneously squeezed my butt in a club.

    Are you 100% sure YOU want a girlfriend and not just sex? Or getting a gf are means to the end.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's nice to be fit but it will almost never be a make it or break it to land a woman.

    If you're fat, yes, it could change things.
    If you're extremely thin and weak looking without the face to match, it could help you escape looking like shit.

    In other cases, it's a small thing that adds to your appearance, but not a big deal.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      u just never got jacked enough, sounds like cope. being jacked makes ur life 10x easier. everybody respects u and everybody wanna fuck u.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >u just never got jacked enough
        You will never get jacked as a natty
        >everybody wanna fuck u
        Most women are disgusted by super jacked dudes although some do fetishize them

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most women are disgusted by super jacked dudes
          Never what trust women say, observe what they do.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Never what trust women say, observe what they do.
            This x1000

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >u just never got jacked enough
        Not him but do you guys srsly believe that you can get huge, jacked with shirt on and stay lean with abs as natty?

        I just can't fanthom how you can claim to lift and spew bullshit like this.

        At this point I uniroinically believe most posters here think you can look like stage arnold natty if you just lift hard and eat good.

        That being said, lifting can help you gain confidience which is attractive.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can have visible abs at 15% bf if you train them correctly. I.e. 8-12 rep range like any other muscle. The only people who need to be sub 12% bf for visible abs are those who either don't train them or are doing stupid shit like high rep bodyweight exercises.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Talk to girls, gay.
    Yes muscles can help, but they're not going to do all the work for you.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Built for BBC

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does being in shape attract women?

    Are you really asking that??

    YES. Get in shape.

    Girls will not ask you out more, because that’s not what girls do, you are the man. Make your move.

    But you will notice more female attention

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a great body, but it doesn't matter because I'm a schizo who only leaves the house to go to the (all male) gym and the store.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What matters is how you look fully clothed. First impressions are everything and, chances are, you're going to have a shirt on.

    So, bodyfat% only matters to the point where you don't have a chubby face, gut, and maybe some forearm definition. Abs don't matter unless you're picking up chicks at the beach.

    Muscle mass is important for your overall frame. Wide shoulders, a big chest, a small waist, a nice ass, and clothes that accentuate it all are very attractive to women.

    I personally never started cold approaching because I never had to. Once I bulked, cut, and bought new clothes (48" chest, 32" waist, 16" biceps, 5'8"), women started hitting on me at bars, my friends' female friends began wanting to meet me, and girls began messaging me on social media.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, ive always have girls around me but now that im big, girls constantly touch me, look at me or or are close to me

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >did building more muscle (eventhough you're not fat) help you get laid?
    YES. I went from 135 at 6'0" to 190. All while either being a complete incel NEET or working shitty jobs, and was able to get laid monthly with little effort, and now have a GF.
    >Did you working for abs, a v-taper, in other words a low bodyfat% and overall solid muscle definition actually help you?
    For dating apps yeah, visible abs are great and for normal people having abs=fit.
    >Did you start cold approaching, using Tinder, Bumble, Instagram to show off when you reached the goals I mentioned above?
    Dating apps and later going to parties and clubs.
    >Or did women have the guts to approach you instead?
    I've had women come up to me at clubs as ask to dance/make out.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Improving personality is the key to getting laid
    /thread

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Immunity doggo, anon is bullying me!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gay

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how do i personalitymaxx

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You just don't give a shit. I don't mean in the asshole sense, you just take things in stride and not let stuff get to you. Do something embarrassing? Own it and turn it into a joke. Just don't take things too seriously and you will come across better than most.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sombich

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Strong ankles

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Built for BBC

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll say this. I'm a balding 26yo manlet who lost 77 pounds over the course of last year. I was very fucking fat. I'm still like 17% body fat and dyel (not as much as I thought I would be tho) so tons of work still to go. I've had two zoomer sluts, 18 and 20 respectively, initiate with me, and the crazy thing is they both had boyfriends at the time. I fucked the 20yo and (unknowingly) cucked her bf. I knew the other was in a relationship so I backed off from that but probably could have gotten laid if I wanted. To fuck zoomer chicks you just have to be less shit than zoomer "men", and trust me its not a fucking high bar to pass.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just don't fall for blackpill bait threads

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fit/ did building more muscle (eventhough you're not fat) help you get laid?
    Yes. Since getting fit it I've gotten way way more sex.
    Some of it is even with women.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your mom doesn't count.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    I hate women

    >Or did women have the guts to approach you instead?
    women never approach me anymore, I wonder if the imitation meme is true; the last time a girl approach me I was a 120lb kid in highschool

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It helped until they realized how awkward my personality is. Making personality gains is important and anxiety is the worst gains goblin. It was a nice ego boost to be physically attractive though.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope, the only thing that’s changed is that guys will come up to me and complement my arms or ask me how much I bench.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just build muscle to improve my experience in sex. But I use hookers, and don't intend to searching for a gf.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but it doesn't work if you become builtfat. It's not about muscles, it's about having a good body though muscles are of course part of that. For myself though it's hard to say, I got laid the most through socialmaxxing and that worked even when I was fat. The real red pill when it comes to women is that outside of quickies with whores you need to be forced into spending a lot of time with women to give them a chance to bond with you. Tinder and clubs for plowing, working together/studying together etc for getting into a relationship.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. I went from a frumpy fatshit to a decent Brad Pitt in Troy style body. What did it get me from women? They ignore me even more. A good bro of mine from college told me years ago. He was a gym god back in those days. He said; "The fitter you get, the less women find you attractive". I didn't understand that until he went on. When a dude mogs a woman in aesthetics, she sees you as competition. I do have a round ass that mogs the average White thot.

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