>just bought a set of dumbbells

>just bought a set of dumbbells
What is stopping me from just lifting all day long everyday, IST?

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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    IST it seems

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on your goal really. You could hypothetically keep lifting a dumbbell until you pass out from exhaustion but that would KILL YOUR GAINS (trademark AthleanX).

    The lifting would become cardio.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      No but I mean, I know I wrote it in a low-effort kind of way, but it's an actual question.

      I'm literally spending all my time home lifting to failure, resting for a couple of hours and doing it again. And that while going on the gym. Provided that I respect fatigue, is that somehow bad for me?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you sleep for 8 hours a day and consume at least 150g of protein and 2500 calories you should be fine.

        The problems come when you don't heal.

        P.S. Water and sodium will be very important for you as that much volume will eventually cause cramp.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks anon

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            No problem

      • 12 months ago
        CecilDrakeInSeattle

        >is that somehow bad for me?

        Yes, dumbass. The body will be stressed resulting in cortisol release due to this, which is anti anabolic, and can lead to muscle loss rather than gain. But go ahead.

        Not to mention the wear and tear on joints. The human body doesn't actually want to work out, it wants to do frick all. There is a reason why people who work a field, or are a stonemason, constantly working their muscles are not giga chad buff gods.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There is a reason why people who work a field, or are a stonemason, constantly working their muscles are not giga chad buff gods.
          I thought that was because of poor nutrition due to poverty

          • 12 months ago
            CecilDrakeInSeattle

            >farmer
            >masses of wheat for bread
            >fresh eggs
            >dairy and meat
            >poverty

            >stonemason
            >poverty

            Even "peasants" could consume 5k calories a day when working hard. But did they have 18 inch arms? Of course not.

            No it's because working out 10 hours per day does not result in massive muscle growth. To reach muscle hypertrophy requires a volume of weight that should not exceed an hour. After this point, the body releases stress hormones, and they certainly do not build muscle. They destroy it, and raise fat levels.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              >To reach muscle hypertrophy requires a volume of weight that should not exceed an hour.
              Past a certain point, it is impossible to acquire enough stimulus to continue growing with just an hour of training. Many natural bodybuilders train for 2 hours, and some of them train for as many as 3 (typically those running full body splits)
              >m-muh cortisol
              Why does it kick in at one hour? Does your body go "gee it's been exactly 60 minutes since this guy started lifting weights, time to release enormous amounts of cortisol!" Do you really think that's how the body works?

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                >Past a certain point, it is impossible to acquire enough stimulus to continue growing with just an hour of training

                Growth is volume of weight. Not time. As long as weight increases, growth occurs. Working out longer does not equate to growth.

                >Many natural bodybuilders train for 2 hours, and some of them train for as many as 3

                This is total horse shit. It's like a media article in which a roid troony says they work out 5 hours per day to gain their size. It's just showmanship.

                >Why does it kick in at one hour? Does your body go "gee it's been exactly 60 minutes since this guy started lifting weights, time to release enormous amounts of cortisol!" Do you really think that's how the body works?

                Uhh yes, it is called human biology? The human body does not like stress, It combats this with hormone release. This occurs at roughly one hour of heavy lifting.

                You LITERALLY have no fricking idea of what you're talking about. Babbies first week of weight lifting?

                You're an idiot.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >As long as weight increases, growth occurs.
                Yes, which is exactly the problem: at some point, acquiring enough stimulus *to become stronger* for all the muscles you want to grow is impossible without enough time in the session.
                >This is total horse shit.
                Pic rel. Your turn
                >Uhh yes, it is called human biology? The human body does not like stress, It combats this with hormone release.
                Okay, so what if I take ashwagandha and rhodiola to nuke my cortisol? Do I suddenly get much better gains? Can I now train for much longer since my cortisol will no longer rise? And what of stress outside the gym? Do we have to live like hermits to optimize muscle growth? Getting fired from your job, having an argument with your gf, etc all raise cortisol. Does this negatively effect your gains? Yes. Do people still get jacked in spite of those things? Also yes, despite the fact that all of those things raise your cortisol MUCH more than training for 61 minutes instead of 60.
                >This occurs at roughly one hour of heavy lifting.
                Why one hour? Why not 75 minutes? Why not 45? Again, this is entirely arbitrary, and there are so many other factors that go into this. What if I do 3 sets of squats in that time frame? Or what if I do 12 sets of squats? What if I do 5 singles at 95%? Does it raise faster doing that instead of 3 sets of 20? This statement means literally nothing and is entirely false, since it does not account for things like the training itself.
                >You LITERALLY have no fricking idea of what you're talking about. Babbies first week of weight lifting?
                I think it's your first week of lifting, since you're spouting the same BS that dyels spout about not training for longer than an hour.

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                >is impossible without enough time in the session.

                Absolutely moronic. Weight is the growth factor; not time.

                >is impossible without enough time in the session.

                Some long autist rant.

                >Why one hour? Why not 75 minutes? Why not 45?

                Because of human biology you dense mofo. That's like saying HURR WHY NOT THE BODY STRESSED AT 1 MINUTE!! Because the human body can take some punishment, but at the hour point, it gets stressed.

                >Pic rel. Your turn
                >I think it's your first week of lifting

                I have seen this pic before. And it;s the body of someone about 150lbs. The chest isn't big. And the arms are left out because they are likely 13 inches.

                I'm a personal trainer, and train people in the military. AT age almost 45 I have natural 16 inch arms.

                As I said, you're an idiot.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Absolutely moronic. Weight is the growth factor; not time.
                Great, more illiteracy. The point is that past a certain point you cannot get enough stimulus to grow and become stronger without sufficient time in the session to accumulate the volume necessary. You can take your pick of advanced natural bodybuilders, powerlifters, and strongmen: Most of them train for longer than an hour because they cannot accumulate enough stimulus to improve without sufficient time.
                >Some long autist rant.
                Aforementioned illiteracy showing itself once again. You're not getting out of this: respond to all of my points here or GTFO
                >Okay, so what if I take ashwagandha and rhodiola to nuke my cortisol? Do I suddenly get much better gains? Can I now train for much longer since my cortisol will no longer rise? And what of stress outside the gym? Do we have to live like hermits to optimize muscle growth? Getting fired from your job, having an argument with your gf, etc all raise cortisol. Does this negatively effect your gains? Yes. Do people still get jacked in spite of those things? Also yes, despite the fact that all of those things raise your cortisol MUCH more than training for 61 minutes instead of 60.

                >Because of human biology you dense mofo. That's like saying HURR WHY NOT THE BODY STRESSED AT 1 MINUTE!! Because the human body can take some punishment, but at the hour point, it gets stressed.
                So human biology conveniently decides to release a shit ton of cortisol once a singular unit of a time interval that we invented is reached. Methinks you're spouting bullshit
                >I have seen this pic before. And it;s the body of someone about 150lbs. The chest isn't big. And the arms are left out because they are likely 13 inches.
                Your triceps are literally half the size of mine but ok sure bro
                Cont

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                Hey look mom! I am arguing against all established sports science!

                >Your triceps are literally half the size of mine but ok sure bro

                I am 6'3" 225lbs natty with 16 inch arms. Lmao you're an idiot. You look 17 years of age with a 38 inch chest.

                >I'm a personal trainer, and train people in the military. AT age almost 45 I have natural 16 inch arms.
                Neither of these things mean anything because I can cite people older than you with much bigger arms who train elite athletes for longer than an hour lol
                [...]
                Because you're saying that it's exactly the same duration as an arbitrary unit of time that we invented.

                >who train elite athletes for longer than an hour

                With steroids. You left that part out.

                >arbitrary unit of time that we invented.

                This is pseudo intellectualism right here. When they think they are smart, but in reality, are saying dumb shit.

                To say time is somehow arbitrary and an invention, is a denial of ageing and death.

                Yet at the same time, you say such an arbitrary invention of time is needed to grow muscle hahaha.

                I can smell an IQ of 74 from here.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Hey look mom! I am arguing against all established sports science!
                You're still failing to address any of my points. If your argument is that we shouldn't train for longer than an hour due to cortisol increase, well why don't we just block cortisol? Boom, problem solved. And what about cortisol from external sources? Should we block every single one of them too and become hermits for the sake of muscle growth?
                >I am 6'3" 225lbs natty with 16 inch arms.
                >6'3
                >225lb
                >16 inch arms
                For someone who has trained for decades your arms are fricking tiny. Have you even looked at your own image? Your triceps literally don't exist, the long head is supposed to appear larger than the biceps in that pose but they're completely dwarfed instead. You have the look of someone who spent his 20s and 30s doing 5 sets of curls every day and nothing else
                >With steroids. You left that part out.
                Okay, so you're saying that if we reduce cortisol, we can train for longer than an hour. You can do that without steroids, so this point is useless. And not to mention that you conveniently skipped over this
                >To say time is somehow arbitrary and an invention, is a denial of ageing and death.
                >Yet at the same time, you say such an arbitrary invention of time is needed to grow muscle hahaha.
                Can you not fricking read? I said *UNIT OF TIME,* time is not arbitrary but the units are. We could go and chop up the day differently: 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour, and 100 seconds in a minute, with the time interval corresponding to a second being changed to suit that. Fricking hell
                >I can smell an IQ of 74 from here.
                If I am so stupid then why are you trying to avoid 70% of my points instead of addressing them? If I'm so dumb it should be easy, right?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And not to mention that you conveniently skipped over this
                My dumbass forgot to quote myself
                >You can take your pick of advanced natural bodybuilders, powerlifters, and strongmen: Most of them train for longer than an hour because they cannot accumulate enough stimulus to improve without sufficient time.

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                THEY'RE ON FRICKING GEAR YOU UTTER TARD.

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                >well why don't we just block cortisol?

                I'm talking natty. Hurr why don't we just take roids!

                >For someone who has trained for decades your arms are fricking tiny.

                They are a natty max.

                I bench press 480lbs. Do you? LOL.

                >Can you not fricking read? I said *UNIT OF TIME,* time is not arbitrary but the units are. We could go and chop up the day differently: 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour, and 100 seconds in a minute, with the time interval corresponding to a second being changed to suit that. Fricking hell

                lmao @ this gobbledeasiatic.

                Call it an hour, call it a wombat, it's at the same time the body gets stressed.

                >If I'm so dumb it should be easy, right?

                Because you're a troll or a village idiot.

                You are saying you need to work out longer to get bigger, and that working out for 8 hours a day is a good idea.

                Lol at your life, you're a fricking moron. Post face and arms.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm talking natty. Hurr why don't we just take roids!
                Ashwagandha is not a steroid last time I checked, and there are other ways to reduce cortisol without taking schizo herbs anyway (you know, more sleep, better diet, etc), all of which reduce cortisol MUCH more than a tiny increase in cortisol from training, which is completely counteracted by the positive stimulus acquired from the additional training anyway
                >They are a natty max.
                What fricking planet am I on that 16" arms at 6'3 are peak natty? Holy shit you have no standards, there are natty dudes in their 20s who are shorter than you with 17-18" arms
                >I bench press 480lbs. Do you? LOL.
                Yeah and I deadlift 900lb, how about you?
                >Call it an hour, call it a wombat, it's at the same time the body gets stressed.
                The point is that it's very convenient that it exactly matches a single unit of time that we invented. But that's not even the main point: it makes no mention of the training itself. What if I'm just training arms and delts, compared to doing a hard leg session? Is it still one hour for both, despite the fact that one session will produce much more fatigue to the body as a whole than the other? Again, blanket statements like that have no meaning: if you said that cortisol may rise after a certain duration of training, I could buy that. But saying EXACTLY one hour is ludicrous. And what of individual differences? Maybe in one individual it happens much sooner, and in another it happens much later. This statement doesn't account for that at all. And again, it doesn't matter anyway because the cortisol increase is very minor and will have no effect on your gains.
                >You are saying you need to work out longer to get bigger, and that working out for 8 hours a day is a good idea.
                >8 hours a day
                Find a quote in this thread of me saying this. You won't be able to.

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                POST ARMS AND FACE lmao.

                Just lolling at you

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can't answer any of my points
                Just gonna quad mog you and leave, this is getting boring lol

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                Fricking kek, still can't post arms and face because you're a little dude hahahaha

                5'6" 150lbs? LOL @ UR LIFE

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle

                The only thing you're mogging is a 10 year old child LOL

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been squatting for 6 weeks and my quads are bigger lmao

              • 12 months ago
                CecilDrakeInSeattle
              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm a personal trainer, and train people in the military. AT age almost 45 I have natural 16 inch arms.
                Neither of these things mean anything because I can cite people older than you with much bigger arms who train elite athletes for longer than an hour lol

                >hurr why do you pass out when blood pressure drops to x point and not y and z point
                >hurr why does the stomach empty after x and not y and z

                Some people truly do not know how stupid they are.

                Because you're saying that it's exactly the same duration as an arbitrary unit of time that we invented.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/TP5skSk.jpg

        >just bought a set of dumbbells
        What is stopping me from just lifting all day long everyday, IST?

        shit bait

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not bait, why would this even be bait? I know there are many anons who have barbells and dumbbells at home, at least some have tried to lift all day long.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You could hypothetically keep lifting a dumbbell until you pass out from exhaustion
      I think that's impossible, your arm would just get too tired before that

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your own body will, Rhabdomyolysis.

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    How long before OP shears away all of the connective tissue from his joints?

  5. 12 months ago
    CecilDrakeInSeattle

    >hurr why do you pass out when blood pressure drops to x point and not y and z point
    >hurr why does the stomach empty after x and not y and z

    Some people truly do not know how stupid they are.

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