How much will amphetamines frick with my gains?
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Try nicotine patches instead. Think about it.
Get a second opinion before you start taking meth.
I've had brain scans confirming I have absolutely plummeted baseline dopamine levels. The legal meth isn't just to make literally any work or studies possible, but to control other fricked up shit like hand shakes, teeth grinding, nail biting, etc...
Time to ask the obvious: What's your diet?
I have successful weeks and weeks where I blunder. I try to eat a lot of fatty meats, as I did my research on all the methods to increase dopamine
>Red meat + fatty meats
>EHA/DHA supps
>cold showers
>lifting
>bed early
>sun hitting your eyeballs early
Who knows what the frick causes this shit. There is strong literature supporting the idea of it being very genetic.
All I know is that I had a psych hold a scan of my brain in front of me, showing that I have virtually zero dopaminergic activity levels in my prefrontal cortex, and this explains so much of my behaviors over the last decade when I should have gotten seen way earlier (parents were the opposite of hypochondriacs, viewed any sign or symptom as non-serious).
Lab mice without dopamine will literally lay still and die of dehydration (despite brain scans showing that they're actually thirsty) but they can't even be bothered to take the effort to walk a few inches over to the feeder (these same mice will drink if you put the feeder in their mouth manually).
do you honestly just think you were born like that? I can almost guarantee your problems stem from a lifestyle choice. Look within and improve yourself before turning to meds.
ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder.
Nobody born with that, but grow up with that. The tendency is genetic but the illness not. Like cancer or heart attack.
Before you criticize something, know that.
Just go outside and lift. Over medication has been disastrous for society.
>Just got diagnosed with ADHD
You don't have ADHD
>How much will amphetamines frick with my gains?
They will frick up you brain, including the ability to get quality sleep. Which will frick up your recovery process, which will frick up your gains.
The number one thing meth does, is fricks up your dopamine levels by forcing your brain to use excess amounts of it.
you are moronic. I have adhd and sleep just fine on my meds and i take them in the morning and in the afternoon. and no, it will not frick up your brain. Holistic gays are the fricking worst.
>fricks up your dopamine levels
no actualy it improves intra-nueral dopamine in the brains of people with adhd, increasing its availability. heres a study if you can even fricking read it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2958516/
continue being moronic
Then stop fapping for a few weeks and get rescanned
Take the lowest dose possible. I take 10mg for my ADHD.
This is the advice I heard as well. Medicate 2-3 days a week MAX on days when I need the most focus, and give time to detox. Doctors want you popping this shit 7 days/week, which is just absurd and unnecessary. The meds should bolster good study/work habits, but not be coursing through one's veins 24/7 kek
This. I hear that after a year you build up such a tolerance that it does nothing for you anymore and you need to take it just to stop withdrawal. Remember this is a drug and will frick you up just like anything else. Especially if you think taking it everyday is a good idea.
>This. I hear that after a year you build up such a tolerance that it does nothing for you anymore and you need to take it just to stop withdrawal.
Don't "this" if you have literally no idea, you piece of shit. Amphetamines don't cause physical withdrawals.
You shouldn't take it everyday, yes, but stop polluting this wisdom with your broscience "this"s.
Don't take over 20mg, and no more than 3 days/week. Take high dosage NAC on off days, and you'll be fine. Thank me later.
Depends. It varies a lot. Most of the weight loss from amphetamines or ephedrine is from appetite supression, not the increased metabolism, so if you add whole milk protein shakes when you're not hungry you can offset the changes to a degree.
This. Doctors can be way too willing to just up your dosage, but you can end up with paradoxical decompensation. This is where your body adapts to the drug, leaving your symptoms worse when you are off it. Amphetamines build tolerance and so they will slowly stop working as well.
Your doctor should start you as low as possible. But some are lazy and will jump right to 15 or even 20mg ERs.
Try not to take them on off days or days with a lower work load. This will reduce the rate at which you develop tolerance and side effects. I just used it Monday, Wednesday, Friday during parts of grad school and occasionally while working on big research projects later that requires 16+ hours of focus. I ended up with so much extra that I stopped getting it.
Depends on your level of symptoms. My brother could never hold a job, flunked out of schools etc. So for him it was a worthwhile improvement. Meth is so bad for you because it has all sorts of other harmful chemicals mixed in and people chase a high, taking more and more. On a steady dose of Adderall you'll no longer get a buzz and increases in blood pressure, etc. should mellow out with tolerance.
For example, a 20mg extended release is enough to get most people with no tolerance tweeking for 12 hours. Full on teeth grinding high potentially. Meanwhile, addicts who build insane tolerances are known to have done more than a gram in a day, 50 times a strong dose.
>Meth is so bad for you because it has all sorts of other harmful chemicals
Meth is also an entirely different animal and too many people don't understand the organic chemistry. That "methyl" (alcohol) molecule attached turns the drug into something akin to like what trenbolone is to testosterone. It is also a neurotoxin, unlike dextroamphetamine.
Dex is neurotoxic and increases the users risk of parkinsons disease somewhat significantly.
Methylphenidate on the other hand offers some neuroprotective effects.
Can a get a QRD on methylphenidate vs amphs? israelitegle search only yields results suggesting they're both similar in efficacy for ADHD, but I can't find much info on the neurotoxicity differences.
methylphenidate (Ritalin) is typically the first med you doc will will try to treat ADHD. If that's somehow not strong enough, you're then switched amphetamine (Adderall/vyvanse) which is a bit stronger, but carries the risk of fricking up your sleep and appetite even more.
Ritalin will also flush from your system in 4-6 hours, so you can regain an appetite faster and go to bed, whereas amphetamines last longer. I guess that answers OP's question. Curious that he posted vyvanse, which is probably the stim that will annihilate your appetite the most out of all of them, kek.
No. Meth is also prescribed for adhd. Doses are essentially equivalent. Both are neurotoxic long term.
>just got diagnosed with a made up disease
>dr shekelbergstein told me to take meth
>guys should I listen to him?
>X think is overdiagnosed in children
>Therefore x doesn't exist
This is what your brain is like being a mental midget that cannot process nuance.
>disease appeared in the 90s
>only diagnosed in the US
>prevalence map looks perfectly normal
kek. JIDF is on IST now?
>Life has become plastic and gay the past 20-30 years
>Society pre hyper-individualism felt equitable and wholesome
>Men used to build shit with our hands, and manual labor paid enough to support a house and raising a family
>ADHD patients were the GOAT hunter/gatherers pre-industrial revolution due to hyper focus
Gee I wonder what changed particularly since the early 1900's that made people need to take meds to get by in this miserable new world. Almost like a guy wrote a book on the subject
>>ADHD patients were the GOAT hunter/gatherers pre-industrial revolution due to hyper focus
Black person do you have issues with focusing on shit or do you not? ADHDgays are the epitomes of mental gymnastics, all of you are just spoiled dipshits with zero impulse control so with the support of pharma who loves selling you drugs (under the guise of medication, win-win for both of you), you've come up with this troony-level mental gymnastics paradigm of how your lack of ability to focus on things that don't immediately capture your spoiled 6-year old brat tier attention mechanisms is actually some sort of a biologically valid condition.
You are literally just like trannies.
>troony troony troony troony troony
lmao shut the frick up you stupid mutt. I bet you're an American with mixed race ancestry
>Black person do you have issues with focusing on shit or do you not?
This question proves how moronic and ignorant you are. You don't even know what the condition is, so I'm not sure why you're flapping your lips about topics you self admittedly have zero awareness of. Stay in your lane homosexual.
>You don't even know what the condition is,
oh please tell me what the condition *really* is, sister? Because none of you morons has a valid answer to that. Is it about how you cannot focus when you have to study but can totally hyperfocus when playing Battlefield for 8 hours (on amphetamines)?
>oh please tell me what the condition *really* is
low baseline dopamine levels, as was pointed out numerous times ITT
>Just increase your bio-chemical dopamine levels within your prefrontal cortex brooooo
As expected, your answer is dogshit and does not address any of points I expected you to address.
First, you did not invalidate the first point YOU criticised about hyperfocus vs lack of focus; and you probably didn't have a counterargument there because you probably DO love to hyperfocus on a video game for 8 hours - and no thats not a super-skill you absolute Black person, literally any moron can do that.
Second, you are reaching for the biological end-result for a diagnosis which omits behavioral patterns leading up the observed biological patterns. It's not your low dopamine PFC levels which are at fault for you being shit at life, its the other way around - you have low PFC dopamine because you are shit at life and you have 0 quality habits. You have no idea what it means to work for something and you never had to learn how to attain a goal. You live exclusively on instant gratification and your brain has never experienced delayed gratification, which is also why you need meth.
I have no pity for your kind.
I hope for your sake that you dont get hooked to Vyvanse very fast because whoever needs meth on a regular basis is a low-tier human IMO.
The answer is not my own, but is based on the main hypothesis for ADHD you absolute fricking mongrel simpleton, which is again, low baseline dopamine levels. Nowhere in your emotional vitriol did you offer a quality retort to this idea. All you have are ad hominems and boomer-tier platitudes about "le pulling yourself up by tha heckin bootstraps!!"
>you have low PFC dopamine because you are shit at life and you have 0 quality habits. You have no idea what it means to work for something and you never had to learn how to attain a goal.
I'm not sure who you're referencing here schizo, as I'm not the anon who took the brain scan. I also have more money than you can dream of in your presumably third world shit tin shack, but that is neither here nor there.
But to answer, it is the exact opposite of your brain-dead analysis of dopamine. Dopamine is the motivational and behavioral regulator which compels one to act. Arguing that compulsion to act creates dopamine is the dumbest fricking thing I've read in a long while, and again, just further proves how much you're talking out of your ass.
>HURRR PHARMA BAD israelite PILLS BAD
Yeah, we've all heard that and 99.9% of us agree with this sentiment since we were all 10 years old you bumbling moron. c**ts like you are a cancer on humanity though, because there do in fact exist people out there who would net benefit from treatments (if they've been evaluated and have legitimate medical issues) over your boomer homosexual bootstrap methods. I don't have ADHD, but I can see how people like you would make them feel like shit and gaslight them by denying that their problems are real. You don't realize how much of an evil gaslighting c**t you are, but I just hope for your sake that there isn't an afterlife, as you will undoubtedly fail god's judgement as suck demon wiener for eternity.
>Arguing that compulsion to act creates dopamine is the dumbest fricking thing I've read in a long while, and again
Because you're an idiot. Habit to act further supports habitual acting in the future.
>I don't have ADHD, but I can see how people like you would make them feel like shit and gaslight them by denying that their problems are real.
Because it's very hard to accept this entire condition as real and not a 1st world spoiled kids problem platformed by pharma, and this is coming from years of observation of ADHD cases.
>"le pulling yourself up by tha heckin bootstraps!!"
That is LITERALLY all it takes, (and also what this entire board is essentially about) but if you think taking 30mg (or more) of literal amphetamines for breakfast EVERY MORNING is something that should be validated, you go ahead, but dont expect everyone to think thats cool and normal, because it isnt. Its fricked up.
PHARMA BAD
bear in mind, you apologetic moron, that we did not even open up the discussion of how amphetamines for this "illness" are prescribed to 8 year old kids on a daily basis. Cool and normal.
I dont deny there is adults who will net benefit from taking meth daily (like no shit who would have guessed meth makes you efficient), but from personal experience vast majority of adhd c**ts should prescribe to boomer DO IT Black person methodologies rather than expect pity for """ needing""" to eat amphatmines every morning, give me a fricking break.
>Habit to act further supports habitual acting in the future.
Amphetamines are now more and more being used to do this. Why do you people always omit this? The meds can in fact be used as excellent short-mid solutions to get people on their feet and reinforce strong habits. You're operating under the old mentality that people need these meds forever. Doctors are now experimenting with creating good and healthy habits as a therapeutic solution, then tapering patients off the meds gradually.
>Because it's very hard to accept this entire condition as real and not a 1st world spoiled kids problem platformed by pharma, and this is coming from years of observation of ADHD cases.
Tell us more about your extensive research on this psych field muttoid.
Nah I agree with him, as someone with ADHD. I don’t like taking meds, it helps a lot, but there is nothing that helps my life as much as adopting a “no excuses” attitude. I’ve spent years of my life being successful, years being depressed, then years back into being successful and actually enjoying life. Everytime I deny the “pull yourself up” ethos, my life goes to shit. Not sure why people argue against this; literally what the frick else are you supposed to do to make your life better? No one wants to help you when you’re a worthless, disgusting sack of shit. You start loving yourself, and loving yourself means actually taking care of yourself through things like gym, learning skills to provide for yourself, and ultimately being in a state where you can actually take care of others.
The guy you’re replying to is definitely angry, but saying that his mentality is some scourge for humanity is truly some backwards and degenerate shit on your part dude.
Ok samegay. Where did I argue that hard work plays no roll? I'll wait for you to quote me on that you strawmanning queer
>You're pathetic and have no dopamine because you're a piece of shit!
>I have no pity on you
>ok I'm gonna take amphetamines to increase my dopamine and make me a beneficial member of my community
>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
What did he mean by this?
OP here, I'm not that fricked up, idk what you're spazzing about so hard, kek. I'm asking a question about appetite suppression, stop being a drama queen.
There's no reason to be upset
Hyperfocusing is a self regulating issue and not the ability to focus better than other. it means your focusing on something to the point you are ignoring other things your should be doing.
>made up disease
Gee I guess all those brain scans showing developmental differences in the brain structure of adhd brains to neurotypical brains are all fake then.
>Just got diagnosed with ADHD
>therefore I must now take these drugs
it's hard to sympathize with normies who worsen their condition due to chronic drug use or get heart failure from dopamine stimulants when they're this obedient.
>a psych hold a scan of my brain in front of me, showing that I have virtually zero dopaminergic activity levels in my prefrontal cortex
brain scans to analyze mental illness are a total pseudoscience. they don't show anything meaningful, aside from obvious structural damage.
moronic take. ADHD basically makes you an anti-normie who rejects doing any task modern life demands. So much so, that you need to scoff down goy pills just to tolerate said modern normie life.
How is what I said moronic?
>ADHD basically makes you an anti-normie who rejects doing any task modern life demands. So much so, that you need to scoff down goy pills just to tolerate said modern normie life.
I agree. So I can't sympathize with people who frick up their own shit just to conform completely to society. They could also make some adjustments in their work- and lifestyle to fit their true self instead of changing themselves with drugs to fit unnecessary goals society has set for them. Finding some work and hobbies that are varied and provide mental and physical stimulation is better than forcing yourself with drugs to do boring shit all the time.
Yes, there are. And their interaction with each other and their effect on (social) behavior is very poorly understood.
>It's how they diagnose Parkinson
sure, but that's very different from ADD, which in turn is very different from other mental illnesses.
never said brain scans are pseudoscience. I said brain scans to analyze mental illness are pseudoscience. researchers agree with this by the way. they don't claim brain scans are an accurate way to diagnose or analyze mental illness.
>no magic pill you can take to live a normal life
unironically being proud of having to take drugs to change your true self just to fit in and be the same as everybody else.
>We know dopamine exists
>We more or less know what it does and its effects on behaviors
>We can fairly accurately scan how much of said dopamine quantities exist in an individual's brain
>ADHD patients consistently show similar results of low levels of dopamine on said brain scans compared to the control
Sounds like a solid method of gauging results to me.
>We know dopamine exists
yes
>We more or less know what it does and its effects on behaviors
no, not really.
>We can fairly accurately scan how much of said dopamine quantities exist in an individual's brain
fairly accurately is debatable. and the effects of neurotransmitters depends on many factors beyond just quantities.
>ADHD patients consistently show similar results of low levels of dopamine on said brain scans compared to the control
what about all the people who show high levels yet still have symptoms, or the people who have low levels and no symptoms? also, what about all those people with symptoms who don't respond to dopamine drugs?
but brain scans look professional and are a great tool for psychiatrists to convince their patients to pay for drugs.
Brain scans showing neurotransmitter levels really aren't that complex anon. It's how they diagnose Parkinson's, which is also a dopamine related illness.
Imagine coping so hard with your brain damage/mental moronation that you make claims like "brain scans are pseudoscience bullshit!"
No, you're definitely an absolute fricking moron, but unfortunately for you there is no magic pill you can take to live a normal life. You are forever cursed with mediocrity and everyone can clearly see it but you.
brain scan of activity, while in a lab being probed by strangers. a transient state (i.e. activity) in an unnatural environment is no proof of permanent physiological disorder. change one small environmental variable, and the resulting activity could be very different. psychology & even neuroscience are for the most part cataloguing noise. ioannidis & pearl can give you more specifics on what a dodge it has all become.
you are a fricking idiot
This is obvious to anyone with a brain, but israelites hate excitory compounds for the goyim (dopaminergic), and love relaxants (serotonin) based compounds.
They won't. Take them as little as you can though to prevent tolerance and possible side effects.
I only take mine monday to thursday. I'm on 15mg of instant release methylphenidate. Amphetamines worked ok but they sort of got me a little high, which I didn't like.
The long release variants fricked with my sleep too much. With instant release I can time them so they wear off by 6pm and so doesn't frick with my sleep.
I take 30mg a day of adderall. If anything my gains have improved due to how much more I'm motivated to work out. When I do work out on adderall I push myself a little more and try new things, on top of that I generally have a more positive and optimistic outlook on my body and life. Idk about vyvanse but that shit's for women with binge eating disorders, just do adderall.
Thanks for the earnest reply bro. What has your appetite been like post meds? My biggest fear is my appetite getting knocked below my TDEE too extremely. Also, isn't vyvanse just extended release adderall? Thanks again
Yeah I'll be real here, legal meth kills your appetite and it's probably the biggest downside. I used to be able to clear 3k+ calories a day no problem, now I basically have to force myself to stay above 2k. On top of that you'll be dehydrated which will make you drink water which will kill your appetite more.
My advice is to never eat breakfast before taking meth and never do OMAD. Eat food with high water content to hydrate yourself and fill yourself simultaneously. Also take Zinc+Magnesium Citrate.
If I take the advice here and only medicate 2-3 days/week, does your appetite return on off days? I feel like I can still swing a bulk if I have 2-3 days at or slightly below TDEE and the rest of the week in surplus
>If I take the advice here and only medicate 2-3 days/week, does your appetite return on off days?
Yes. For me personally my appetite fully returns roughly 12 hours after i took the medication and when it returns in comes in full force which makes it possible to avoid a calorie deficit. The only downside is that you have to get used to eating big meals at night, which luckily is something i was doing anyway
I second this. 2*15mg of dexedrine per day. I take em every day.
The initial kick wears off after a month or so but they keep working even if you can't "feel" them working.
My gym intensity and consistency has improved hugely. Appetite is lower but I eat according to a meal plan not hunger anyway and the drugs help me adhere to it.
In short they're safe and effective meds, the scaremongering can be ignored.
taking prescribed adderal (amphetamine salts) had little to no positive effect and ruined my sleep quality for years.
they're great for cutting
Vyvanze is wicked expensive and bad for your heart. I was on it for three years and got off of it about two years go. I’m not as productive and the withdrawal sucks but I feel healthier.
diagnosed as a child, I absolutely hated amphetamines. I’m 26 and the Last time I took medication was 5th grade. they will turn you into a anti social addict so my advice would be to ignore your doctor and seek natural medicines
Amphetamines will frick up you with depression also frick off b***h breasts.
>will frick up you
Are you an immigrant?
youll be fine, Anon
youre too mentally tough to become dependant on some tiny little chemical compound. I take it every single day and can't go without it
>I'm perfectly fine.
Beautiful anon
Add the test and Tren vials to the pic and you have a masterpiece
Uncle Ted was right
i will be stabbing my doctor shortly if i am not prescribed amphetamines. thank you
Just don't lie when you're there. Doctors are pretty good at filtering:
>Hi I think I have ADHD, let's talk about it
>"Hi *fake head twitch* plz give me drugs! I'm so ill!"
Good luck but you'll still need to exercise discipline in combination with amphs if you want any net positive effect. If you don't force yourself to sit in front of your studies, you'll just go on 7 hour fap sessions or play video games morning to night.
Just don't take them.
Idk man. I have ADHD and don't take anything for it. They tried to put me on amphetamines as a kid and I just refused to take them after a month or so, made my stomach turn and I felt like a fricking zombie. I don't have any real advice other than to get off the shit if you don't like it, if you coped with it to this point in life you can probably deal with it.
Childhood ADHD is unironically the version that's fake and gay for the most part, because the classification includes nearly all children (especially boys). ADHD is obviously real, but it shouldn't be treated with meds until at least 21 where we can fully determine that someone actually has it and isn't just being a kid.
I was diagnosed at 15 and that's when they tried to get me on the meds, but I think the diagnosis was correct as I am 29 now with ADHD symptoms still. For sure true that doctors can be lazy pieces ofshit who talk out their ass, I have experienced that many times with other stuff unfortunately.
>Just got diagnosed with ADHD
get a second opinion
ignore all quack doctors
they get paid to push pills on people
lay off the drugs
lay off the vices
pray to GOD
ADHD is made up. The guy who coined the name admitted it
You refuse to discipline yourself so you act like a fricking child.
Fix that and *poof* your super scary medical condition vanishes
Discipline is a meme. It's all just the amount of dopamine and serotonin in out brains that make us do anything. That's why 70% of corporate CEOs, 80% of wall street, at least 60% of med students, etc... all take amphs to keep an edge. Obviously not all of us need
>inb4 lazy
By every observable metric, zoomers and millennials are harder workers than gen-xers and boomers by a wide margin
anyone who takes adhd meds is a moron
I'd try and cope with tons of coffee before going to amps, they will make you insane sooner or later..
ADHD was based back when we could raid and pillage + hunter/gatherer societies. Unfortunately, there's not much outlets in this day and age to unleash our passion
>AAAAAAAAA IM GONNA RAAAIIIIDDDDD
There's a lot of moronic opinions ITT from both pro and anti ADHD treatment anons. Non foolish explanation of ADHD:
He includes a lot of natty solutions you can try before hopping on meds. TLDR
>Cold water therapy
>Control of blinking and focusing on peripheral vision (eyesight is very connected to dopamine)
>Fasting from dopamine spiking activities (vidya, cooming, porn, etc..)
I have a doc app in a few weeks as well for an evaluation for ADHD, but I'm doing everything I can the natty way first to see if I can see any improvements. Also, I find out about ADHD and it made me self assess because that autistic frick Sseth has it, kek
Hasn’t been a problem for me
>ppl arguing genetics
Is it not just mental illness caused from shitty things happening to you as a kid?
No its just laziness
now you're asking the right questions. Read
Ted.
Wouldn't amphetamines be good for gains?
They're an appetite suppressant. I suppose they'd be good for structuring workouts and organizing/planning nutrition.
Adhd isn't real but being a pillhead is.
based adhd is a fake israeli disease. ADHD is undiasnosed sleep disordered breathing. Anon needs to get a sleep study https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lptPqXX9ljg&t=907s&ab_channel=OrthotropicsEnthusiast
>Fake israeli disease
>literally hitler took amphetamines
lmao
Adhd isn't real but being a pillhead is.
If you think this video is solid evidence of anything you don’t deserve to have an opinion
Brah you just got prescription pre workout
A lot of emotions flaring and hot tempers ITT, thought I'd offer my perspective
Starting taking Adderall then later switched to Vyvanse about 3 years ago. I went from a miserable giga NEET to now owning my own tech startup and doing quite well making weekly swing trades in the market. Setting and achieving goals was an absolute nightmare, and I was on the cusp of failure from university. A lot of people think it's laziness, but I genuinely and honestly wanted to be a better person, was conscious of all my problems, knew exactly HOW to solve it, but it was like I'd get possessed by a demon and was just powerless watching myself not doing anything for God knows fricking why. This absolutely was tearing my sanity to shreds, as everyone saw potential in me, but nobody knew why I wasn't doing anything in life. Is ADHD fake? Did I fry my own risk/reward circuitry from vidya and fapping? Maybe, who fricking knows. But the goy pills allow me to function and get by my day in ways where I couldn't self improooov enough to do prior
A word of forewarning to you thinking I'm shilling pharmaisraelite pills - this shit works, but it comes at a toll. You will lose the child inside of you and you'll kinda just be a working machine. Some of you might think that's a positive, and it was a net positive for me, but a part of you dies. Before the goy pills, I was like spongebob, or a cartoon character frolicking through the flowerfields in a bliss. Now I just wake up and get to my tasks, without that inner child that sees the colors in life. Anyways, that's my 2 cents
You should quit the meds since you've made it. Come back to humanity now that your life has straightened out
sounds great, i wanted to minecraft myself anyway
ADHD meds should only be taken when needed. The worst symptoms of my ADHD i could cure by just doing a dopamine fast for 4 weeks. For hard times that required extreme amounts of concentration i took my adhd meds, and for baseline i take Wellbutrine (Bupropion 150mg XL)
Please don't take these Meth pill regulary.
>i'm a pillhead
>The worst symptoms of my ADHD i could cure by just doing a dopamine fast for 4 weeks.
Could you elaborate on how this made you feel? I'm gonna dope fast for a few weeks before my doc app. If I can induce natty changes, I'll drop the idea of meds altogether
Thanks for the input. Sounds like I'm where you were - know what I need to do but feel powerless to do it. I just don't know anymore
I was a literal internet addict, my face on my screen or phone all day. Even when playing vidya i had some stream of some homosexual or some youtube video next running to me while also being in discord with my friends.
I got my pc and locked it up into my basement and blocked all websites on my phone like IST, reddit, youtube etc.
I found myself doing things i never did before like helping my parrents at their house in the garden, visiting my grandparrents, reading a book and the bible etc. It gave me back my ability to think straight, clearly. And the sleep was better than ever. I am now way more mindful on what i am doing on the PC and my phone. Most people get sucked into this digital dopamine addiction without even knowing it. But still, ADHD is a real sickness and i suffer from it. People with ADHD are way way way more susceptible to Dopamine addiction. They are alcoholics, porn addicts, social media addicts, sex addicts, sugar addicts because it gives them the Dopamine they lack. My theory is that it stems from some kind of childhood neglect and your brain learned to get pleasure from small mundane things and this translated into adulthood or something.
>Even when playing vidya i had some stream of some homosexual or some youtube video next running to me while also being in discord with my friends.
What the frick are you me? But damn, thanks bro, that sounds actually quite motivational. And yeah, I check off all the boxes for ADHD. My brain is always fiending for dopamine, mostly through shitposting on here and vidya, as well as having a propensity for sweets if I don't control myself. I'm gonna give it a solid 2-3 week fast and see how it goes. The theory makes sense- low dopamine levels means we look for any source, no matter how cheap, detrimental, and shit of entertainment.
Huberman podcast did a good series on it. Basically ADHD patients are always self medicating with desperately trying to spike dopamine levels high enough to focus, like how I pound down 6-8 cups of coffee every day, or I literally cannot read a line of text out of a book or screen. I think a dope fast is up my avenue, so I can hope to get those receptors a bit more sensitized.
You're going to be extremely horny for the first 8-12 weeks then you'll lose the ability to get proper erections. Stimulants are horrendous for sexual performance long term. Don't know about gains tho.
They helped mine.
Why oh why can't you just fix me?
When all I want's to feel numb
But the medication's all gone
Why oh why does God hate me?
When all I want's to get high
And forget this so-called life
I am so frickin' bored
Nothin' to do today
I guess I'll sit around and medicate (medicate)
I am so frickin' bored
Nothing to do today
I guess I'll sit around and medicate (medicate)
Don't take the legal tweak, it isn't worth it. Try this natural supplement that helps with super focus but without the speed. https://www.dragonherbs.com/diamond-mind.html
I take it and everyone I work with takes it for work and the ones with legit ADHD said that it works better for them than any of the amphetamines or big pharma drugs. It helps give you super focus but also calms you down and helps boost your immune system. Godspeed anon!
>this incredible herb was used by the Tibetan monks to enhance their spiritual power
If anything, it'll help. More energy and focus while lifting, and the reduction in appetite will frick your bulking, but will make cutting 10x easier.
How about modafinil? I have a terrible case of adhd and ive tried every natural solution from diet changes and exercise to cold showers to sun exposure and its improving my mood tremendously, but none of my adhd symptoms
I dont want to take uppers tho
Ive tried some moda and its somewhat effective to an extent, any anon has had any experience on it and know how to make its intake more effective?
I take 10mg at 7:30 and 13:00 and it has zero impact on my gains. It does help me focus in the gym and it probably indirectly improved my form somewhat. It did help me in the rest of my life. I work as a remote software developer and without dexamphetamine I would never be able to be productive enough and it also makes working and learning a lot more fun. I would highly recommend it if you don’t take too much and you never combine it with weed or alcohol.
What about ADD? I might have that and it's worse than ADHD.
It’s the same thing you moron, check the DSM-V
If you’re reluctant to get on amphetamines - try modafinil. It’s a stimulant, but not an amphetamine. A lot of online stores sell modafinil, if you check the right places and do your research.
I take a modafinil every day before work and it has done wonders for my life. I don’t get distracted and just get my work done. It’s similar to an ADHD drug - but you get less “high”. You don’t feel cracked out. You just become way less distracted and more motivated to get shit done. Well worth looking into.