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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    that's because dumbasses go "it's the best diet you can eat all the bacon you want!" and then they do that and don't eat greens and it's not the "eat all the bacon you want diet"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      these are the answers to the thread

      dipshits go "oh I can eat as much fat as I want!" then drown their 85% ground beef in butter and oil while completely neglecting healthy fats like avocados

      Except neither of those is particularly unhealthy. Ground beef drowned in butter is half of French dishes. Beef and fish drowned in lard is the basis of Japanese cuisine. Eating nothing but bacon would still be healthier than a standard diet.

      The REAL reason people do badly on a high fat diet is because its full of plant crap like vegetable oils. Vegetable oils are one of the most toxic parts of the modern diet, and you can't escape if you go to restaurants or get takeaway. So morons try to eat "keto" from a menu and end up with foods drenched in oil.

      I realise I'm probably replying to skinny-fat vegan activists but it's just fricking tiresome how we have to put up with this sort of nutritional pseudo science on here every day

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Ground beef drowned in butter is half of French dishes.
        Not true and you've never been to France.
        >Beef and fish drowned in lard is the basis of Japanese cuisine.
        Lmfao. Japanese consciously avoid excessive oils and fats. The opposite of your moronic fantasies is actually true.
        >The REAL reason people do badly on a high fat diet is because its full of plant crap like vegetable oils. Vegetable oils are one of the most toxic parts of the modern diet
        Another fat moron watches Chris Knobbe's moronic 40 minute presentation (the most learning you've ever done past high school) and thinks he's some sort of diet guru now.

        Not even a single claim Knobbe makes can be substantiated, especially that "nobody" had atherosclerosis (heart disease) before 1900. There are plenty of ANCIENT to modern autopsies showing the opposite.

        >I realise I'm probably replying to skinny-fat vegan activists but it's just fricking tiresome how we have to put up with this sort of nutritional pseudo science on here every day
        Are the vegans in the room with us now, anon?

        Or maybe it's just not everyone is stuffing themselves full of lard, getting zero results and blaming "seed oils". You're fat because you eat too much, exercise too little, and refuse to admit you fricked up.

        Cope and seethe moron.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          how can you be such a Black person? i agree with previous poster, case closed.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In the last few years I've read everything from fresh air, dirt, tap water, sleeping too much, sleeping too little, cold weather, hot weather, etc, etc, etc will cause heart attacks, strokes, and blood clots. I'm not longer interested in your israeli science.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. I've seen about a thousand different things that "may be linked" to something, it's just white noise now. Shitting on ketolards is always funny though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. I've seen about a thousand different things that "may be linked" to something, it's just white noise now. Shitting on ketolards is always funny though.

      Maybe stop reading articles made by trend setters. Read actual scientific literature, and learn to understand not only what that particular study says, but how it is flawed.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I meant I see the headlines you highhorsing homosexual Black person

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/AQMODFY.jpg

          Maybe your tongue belongs in my anus

          Yeah, and those headlines are made by people selling something. Have you ever looked at the study they reference?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Notice how I didn't say I'm not interested in your peer reviewed double blind research study science. I said I'm not interested in your israeli science.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              why would the israelites publish that aspirin-covid info in english if they didn't want goys to know?
              a quick google search shows that that secret data that you claim they don't want the whites to know, is now widespread across the internet

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe your tongue belongs in my anus

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        There are no high quality RCTs on nutrition and health. Admittedly that's because it would be incredibly hard to do, but all the scientific literature is ~~*observational*~~ studies, which are very easy to draw false conclusions from. E.g. vegans live longer than meat eaters. No shit, veganism is a trend in rich countries and more specifically the middle and upper classes of the rich countries. Vegans don't live longer than meat eaters. Rich people live longer than poor people.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Show me the study that used those particular samples drawing that conclusion.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >accuses scientists of readily drawing false conclusions from observational studies with myopic data sets
          >immediately draws a new ad-hoc conclusion himself in the next sentence

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The null hypothesis is a vegan diet is not healthier than an omnivore diet. Show me an RCT that can allow us to reject the null hypothesis. Until then it is absolutely correct to state with the current evidence available, vegan diet is not healthier than an omnivore diet.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              your hypothesis is that rich people live longer than poor people when controlling for diet, disingenuous-anon, which may be entirely correct, however its rather awkward to make your original accusation, disregard the usual conclusion on the topic, then posit a new hypothesis based on even less data than what you complained scientists reporting on

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Rich people have quicker access to healthcare and access to higher quality healthcare. There is far more data for health outcomes between rich and poor people than for vegan diet vs omnivore diet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                are you purposely being obtuse?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not in disagreement with us being omnivores, but I'm from the Show Me state, b***h. You ain't gonna easily convince me it's raining when you piss in my face. Show me the study as I asked earlier

              Show me the study that used those particular samples drawing that conclusion.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                almost none of these are RCTs and the few that are are mostly not solely nutrition interventions

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >implying you opened even a single one

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                most of these have been parroted by you people for years and ive already many of them as well the many critiques to many of them you delightfully ignore

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >already read*

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >already read*

                >I didn't read lol
                >but i read critiques like 5 years ago

                LARPing gay

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you havent bothered to read any of the critiques? heres one regarding the meat colon cancer connection from the WHO IARC report which you seem to reference
                >Most importantly for the IARC report, two major dietary intervention studies that should have contributed to the assessment of the claimed relationship of red meat and cancer were not considered. The first was a study of colon polyps, the precancerous growths that greatly increase the likelihood of developing colon cancer. Almost 1,900 subjects with a recent history of having a polyp removed were divided into a control group that ate their usual diet and a group following a diet characterized by significant decreases in total fat, red, and processed meat along with increases in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes (Schatzkin et al., 2000). Participants were followed for 3 years and at the end of that time, the recurrence of colon polyps was identical in both diet groups. It is possible that the precancerous stage may not have been the proper time for dietary intervention. The Women’s Health Initiative, therefore, studied a low-fat diet, achieved in large part by reducing red- and processed-meat consumption, among almost 49,000 women (Beresford et al., 2006); about 30,000 followed their normal diets and almost 20,000 were assigned to low-fat diets. After 9 years, the rate of colon cancer was almost identical in the low-fat and control-diet groups. These studies strongly suggest that the observational studies are not supported by dietary intervention studies at either the precancerous or malignant tumor stages of colon cancer.
                could do the same for all those "studies" but ive got other things id rather be doing. have a good night sir

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                China is low obesity but the population has the highest risk for t2. Curious.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          People that have good diets, low stress, exercise, get good sleep, and have better hygiene live longer. Regardless of wealth status

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It’s almost as if “health science” is mostly made up of an endless stream of bullshit studies that couldn’t be reproduced if anyone ever actually tried, which they don’t. A trend which has become almost inescapable in basically all soft sciences.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >soft sciences
          At least until DEI takes over hard science as well. Then we'll have tons of mathematicians making shit up because they sailed through their degree program by merit of their skin color, or diversity of the week.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe stop reading articles made by trend setters. Read actual scientific literature, and learn to understand not only what that particular study says, but how it is flawed.
        That's not what the average moron does, and I think it's obvious at this point that IST is populated almost entirely by morons. These morons decide to "pay attention to their health" for a few years, which consists entirely of following diet fads (very feminine behavior btw) and after getting whiplash from taking clickbait article headlines seriously, they then declare that

        In the last few years I've read everything from fresh air, dirt, tap water, sleeping too much, sleeping too little, cold weather, hot weather, etc, etc, etc will cause heart attacks, strokes, and blood clots. I'm not longer interested in your israeli science.

        >nothing matters because they just change their minds every couple years anyway!!!
        and use this as justification for eating whatever they want. It's funny because what they end up eating is unhealthy and they know it's unhealthy, but they gaslight themselves with this shit about
        >yeah they SAY it's bad for you but they don't even know!

        And then they die in their fifties from heart attacks and strokes and the world becomes a marginally better place.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So when you eat a couple of white potatoes by themselves, do you get... that feeling? Should you trust the science, but not yourself?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Do I get what feeling?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not vaccines though. israeli pharmaceutical products are safer than what humans evolved doing

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Humans didn’t evolve to combat lab-made Chinese bio weapons.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          he is being ironic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Don't garden under a solar flair, goy!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't garden
        They're actually starting to hit this one pretty hard in some parts of the world. They're discouraging home gardens and telling you to rely on industrial agriculture because it's "better for the environment".

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's pretty weird how frightened they get by people being interested in self sufficiency.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Kek. I can't imagine anyone with a working brain believing any of this. Most humans really are cattle aren't they?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      do you fricking hear that you anti sneed oil cultists

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        multiple RCTs have shown seed oils to increase cancer and or mortality. data that was for some reason "buried" and reanalyzed by dumb luck

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        israeli "science" has consistantly been pro seed oil the last 60 years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > This study doesn't fit into my confirmation bias so I'm going to disregard it.

      -ack

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No, stop nooooticing, goy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Link the article that says fresh air will cause heart attack, you lying coward.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >may be

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Hold the bun

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    health science, and particularly nutritional science, are complete memes. they clearly have no fricking idea what is healthy, and barely consensus on what isn't healthy. why they still get funding for 'studies' with more reproducibility issues than psychology is insane

    that said, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that using beef patties cooked in butter as a substitute for bread, while completely ignoring vegetables cause 'muh antinutrients', probably isn't good for you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Vegetables are a meme, homosexual.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I bought pork loin today because costco had strip loint at 28 per kg, and googled up if it was healthy or not (im losing weight, down 30lbs so far) and i got 10 articles that were all over the place saying either pork loin is lean and fine to eat and 10 more saying pork loin bad you will die from pork.

      at this point i have no idea what the frick they want me to eat

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ignore it all and just eat what you like and can afford

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          yeah thats pretty much what I did. Been fairing well eatting cans of tuna for lunch, 50grams of protein from some type of meat and as much vegetables as I can eat for dinner.

          I do miss eating shitty foods but after i lose all this weight I'll count calories till the end of time to ensure I don't gain this weight again.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >at this point i have no idea what the frick they want me to eat
        What a mystery.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Frick, literally "eat goy slop and shut up".

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed. Obese people are known for their watermelon and kale intake.

            Definitely not stuffing pounds of fried meat and chips down their gullet.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >watermelon
              >kale
              You mean soul food?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >it's the heckin watermelorino making me fat, not my tub of deep fried chicken

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                actually fat people eat the carb-heaviest diets.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They also eat the most fat and protein.

                Because they eat the most. Revelationary, I know.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Nooooo! Not my carbarinos! My heckin comfy womfy chips and spaghettis! Bill gaytes bought all that farmland for me! Nooooooo!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Hmm, I wonder why their favourite food is noodles. I will tell you why - your hunger signals work properly on a high fat diet, and don't work on a high carb diet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >your hunger signals work properly on a high fat diet
                meanwhile every keto advocate is morbidly obese or on steroids

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >or on steroids
                Lol the cope never ends. So, pray tell, why are you so invested in if people do "keto"? Are you offended in some way by it?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Obviously you shouldn't bother eating anything but watermelon and kale. Frosted mini wheats are okay in a pinch though

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not even a keto tard, but these studies dont know jack shit about anything

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >study
    >CNN
    nice try carbtard

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    americans will argue to death with you about the LDL myth while everyone else in the West manages to have meat and eggs in their diet without having to pick apart lipids science to justify their lack of activity (biggest LDL reducer)

    just move burgers

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lack of exercise isn't the biggest contributor to the heart disease epidemic

      • 1 year ago
        sage

        yes it is.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    israelite “science”. No real scientific literature just clickbait articles designed to keep the goy fat and sick. Funny how thy never mention how plant based agriculture contributes double the carbon footprint of livestock.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >plant based agriculture contributes double the carbon footprint of livestock.
      lol can't wait to see what horseshit that study pulled to get to that synthesis.
      probably counted the sea of goyslop corn and sỎybeans grown for animal feed as not counting towards the meat carbon footprint

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, it does depend on the type of agriculture. Proper regenerative cattle ranching is a carbon sink. Raising corn and basedbeans, regardless of whether it's fed to humans or cattle, is always releasing more carbon than it sequesters. Even just tilling the soil releases literal tons of carbon into the atmosphere. Then there's all the fuel that gets burned, etc.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      more LDL more CHD

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        no clear relationship if you dont cherry pick

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/fH0OBpr.jpg

          more LDL more CHD

          What now?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Funny how thy never mention how plant based agriculture contributes double the carbon footprint of livestock.
      That's because it's a demonstrably false claim that you only believe because you read three lines of text overlaid on an image on a racist anime forum which conveniently fitted with both your current dietary habits and preconceived belief system of knee-jerk contrarianism.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    60% of these studies cannot be reproduced
    I'm still waiting for them to reverse whether or not eggs are good this year, like they did last year, and the year before, and the year before that

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    just because you do keto doesn't mean you need to go high cholesterol.
    >nuts
    >fish
    >salads
    >guacamole
    >chia and berries

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Berries have too much sugar

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol what. I think you are confusing those dried berries in the freezer with actual raw berries you get in the vegetable section like raspberries, blackberries etc which have very low amounts of sugar relative to fiber.

        raspberries

        100g

        4.4g sugar
        7g fiber

        if your food has more fibre than sugar.. it isn't going to be high carb haha.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the antioxidants make it worth it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Avocadobros, cacaobros, we've been forgotten

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that's because dumbasses go "it's the best diet you can eat all the bacon you want!" and then they do that and don't eat greens and it's not the "eat all the bacon you want diet"

      these are the answers to the thread

      dipshits go "oh I can eat as much fat as I want!" then drown their 85% ground beef in butter and oil while completely neglecting healthy fats like avocados

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah i was more talking about just kale and spinach and stuff than avocados but yeah. people treat it like it's for stupid people or like to make a joke out of it and that's fine. i don't fricking care. i hate people. i hate people and i don't give a shit what they do or think. it's just funny because i did keto for 6 months 10 years ago and lost 80 lbs, because i did it right. i wasn't even working out back then just doing a bullshit warehouse job

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Kale and spinach are great it's just most people are moronic and don't realize you're supposed to cook leafy greens.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            what's wrong with eating them raw?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              spinach is good in salads and baby kale is ok too but those tough fibrous ones are meant to be steamed or put into stew to break down the cellulose.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ah yeah the full grown kale can be pretty rough. it doesn't bother me in a salad though

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You forgot the step where 3 weeks into their diet and down 5-10 pounds they get on IST and larp as having lost 150 pounds and go full schizo mode about "CICO is a LIE!" and carbs are the ultimate evil and all of that.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >down 5-10 pounds
          water weight, see

          [...]

          they actually think water is bad for you lmao

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what is a "keto-like" diet in this case

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's israelite speak for "goyim should not eat meat unless it's from bugs"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Any diet leftists don't like.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9143438/
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024687/
    Dietary cholesterol has nothing to do with heart disease.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >b-but /misc/ told me bacon grease and lard protected me against heart disease!!!

    wtf ketosisters how could this happen???

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Dec 21, 2021
      He shouldn't have taken the vaccine.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Low carb is the issue here. He was not in ketosis and enjoyed some tasty glycation of his LDL, leading to Atherosclerosis.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        nothing wrong with low carb or keto

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, that anecdote convinced me

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Always do the opposite of what the media says.
    CNN being anti keto is definitive proof that keto is based.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In the west they control people with propaganda and nobody is the wiser. "studies", "scientists", "experts", "celebrities". hah. Everybody ate "keto-like" diets before agriculture.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's not exactly a ringing endorsement considering that most people before agriculture died at the ripe old age of "childbirth" or "lost a fight with an animal / some dude who wanted to frick my woman".

      Of course there's not much record of concern for long term health impacts of poor diet when people didn't live long term you muppet.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        haha yeah bro! The diet that human genes evolved around is bad for humans! We totally came up with a better diet and that is why everyone is so healthy and not fat!

        WE LIVE TO 01010100 now!! They lived to -12324 in ancient TIMes!#@$

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          If this is the route you want to take as response let me break it to you that your genes are not meant for longevity, it's conscious intervention that leads to longevity. Natural selection doesn't give a shit if you live forever, it gives a shit how many times you can frick and pass on your genes. That's literally it.

          But do frickin' go off, "primal".

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever met people over 60? They are asleep most of the time and on 10 different drugs to keep them alive.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            wouldnt their be an evolutionary advantage to have healthy parents and or grandparents to aid in the development of offspring? why dont women just eat men like spiders?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              "evolutionary advantage" is a phrase most misconstrue. if some random prostitute pops out 10 children and half die because lol oh well, and then half of those go on to do the same, then she is more "evolutionary successful" than families who wait several more years and have only one or two children.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            We are the product of our environment. There isn't a way to make it better, no matter how much progressives think otherwise. People are not better off now. People are sick, both mentally and physically. You can't make an environment (the food we eat is one of those things) better for a human than the one we evolved in. You can use technology to survive longer though.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            If a hand is shaped by a glove, you can't create a glove that is a better fit for the hand. You can't feed people something better than that which they evolved in, because the evolution shaped them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It is theoretically impossible to have a "poor" diet if your genes evolved with that diet. The idea that modern humans have a better diet is so absurd that you are probably insane or mentally deranged. Have you been outside? People do not look healthy in any way.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          because they dont follow our wonderful advice to eats lots of healthy whole grains 🙂

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This is just a lame excuse by people holding onto their fake diets. If they are so good, people wouldn't eat all of that junk food. In reality, the diets don't satisfy people, so they cheat, just like humans on their wives and husbands.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              it was ironic because the actual experiments have shown little if any benefit of whole grains and some potential harms

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I don’t care how healthy your diet is, it won’t be so satisfying that you don’t crave the occasional goyslop.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I never said modern humans have a healthy diet you strawmanning dickchin. I'd said that thinking you're gonna live forever eating road apples and deer entrails ain't the way. Agriculture isn't the frickin' issue though, industrialism is. Growing veggies and shit to make bread isn't what made the world balloon, it's the availability of frickin' tastykakes at 50p at the bodega.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I completely agree with you, however, with that said, it is possible for modern humans to have an amazing diet while fricking it up in all other ways, such as lack of sleep, lack of exercise, too much exposure to media and not enough friends (psychological stuff can have weird ramifications on the body).

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        its pretty likely their diet was better than post-agricultural humans until very recently since they were taller and stronger-boned than humans from the past couple thousand years, and height is one of the most braindead indicators of nutritional health

        also, what the frick does diet have to do with death by trauma, unless you're implying their diet was so poor that's what caused them to get mauled by bears, in which case I assure you modern humans would still get mauled by bears

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          brain case and possibly brain size was also larger before agriculture

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They only lived to 5 years old in ancient times because of their diet!

    source: trust me bro, it is science!

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >80% of your diet is fat
    >apparently it's bad for your heart
    More at 11

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      has never been shown. unless you mean fat from "vegetable" oils

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        homie look up what causes atherosclerosis

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          saturated fat has nothing to do with it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >saturated fat has nothing to do with it
            Learn to read moron. Also high cholesterol is caused by eating food with a lot of fats INCLUDING saturated fats and trans fats. Fricking gay moron.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              yeah thats wrong.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn't say that. You're illiterate. It states saturated fat "may" be a "risk factor", which is not the same as something causing something. You lose.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                There is no evidence that suggests animal fats are a risk factor for anything. Plant fats are toxic, plant saturated fats just being less toxic than other forms. I don't understand why people grant so much gravitas to activist-science like this, and none to ancestral wisdom.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you're going to avoid plants you need big pharma to give you some supplements to get your electrolytes and shit, just like the vegans, just different mental illness.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Salts don't come from big pharma moron.

                But you are right, you need to consume electrolytes because they are artificially stripped out of the water we drink, so you have to replace them. The water is now unnatural, not the diet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >plant saturated fats just being less toxic
                Go and explain why this is the case then

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's easy to understand if you start with a conclusion (meat is le bad) and design studies that will support that thesis.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't understand why people grant so much gravitas to activist-science like this, and none to ancestral wisdom.
                Domestication. They are doglike pseudohumans.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                There is no evidence that suggests animal fats are a risk factor for anything. Plant fats are toxic, plant saturated fats just being less toxic than other forms. I don't understand why people grant so much gravitas to activist-science like this, and none to ancestral wisdom.

                >ancestral wisdom is butter coffee, ignoring what your ancestors actually ate, and refusing to eat your body's main fuel source

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe and dilate, vegtroony.

                https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-2-million-years-humans-ate-meat-and-little-else-study/

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I briefly looked at your image and agree with keto guy

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Same.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, and for 2 million years we died of appendicitis and had to frick weird unshaven neanderthal pussy. You just want a keto diet so you can justify sitting on your ass and eating chicken tenders meanwhile your magnesium and potassium levels are in the toilet and your fricking testicles struggle to produce 1mg of testosterone per day.

              • 1 year ago
                sage

                keto doesn't affect testosterone production negatively and there's no reason you'd have electrolyte issues.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it fricking does. " high-protein (≥35%), low-carbohydrate diets greatly decreased resting (-1.08 [-1.67, -0.48], p < 0.01) and post-exercise total testosterone (-1.01 [-2, -0.01] p = 0.05)."

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35254136/

                It jacks your cortisol to the fricking moon and suppresses test. That's why people on actual Keto diets have T levels of fricking 400 while balanced diets would have that same c**t at 800-1000.

              • 1 year ago
                sage

                low carbohydrate high protein diet isn't ketogenic diet.

              • 1 year ago
                sage

                low carbohydrate high protein diet isn't ketogenic diet.

                also nice fricking review that goes out of its way not to list age or confounds and scored extremely high for potential bias

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >balanced
                another weasel word that means nothing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                keto destroys testosterone, at least 2 mechanisms: higher cortisol suppressing test and low carb->high SHBG-> lower free test.

                most anabolic hormone profile comes from diets high in carbohydrates (it's not even close either); most of the cited benefits from keto diets come from reducing them.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >most anabolic hormone profile comes from diets high in carbohydrates
                what does it feel like to be moronic?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >noooo you can't just trust objective reality AND the science
                >you must clog your arteries and eat raw meat because Aajonus Vonderplanitz (a israelite) said so!

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              There's something deeply wrong with you.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Your pic also says physical activity causes plaque buildup lol.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >risk factors may include physical activity
              There we go you fricking morons, says right there in the le hecking science that physical activity causes heart problems.
              Stop doing physical activity.
              >this is how moronic muh bad cholesterol/saturated fat tards are

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Also Kiribati eats like 30% of their calories every day in saturated fat and they have a lower heart disease death rate than Spain which gets like 50% of their fat into from monounsaturated AND is the worlds #1 consumer of fat in general on average. Spain is also ranked like 170th in the world for heart disease deaths, and kiribati is ranked lower than that.
                Meanwhile coutnries like Egypt which eat 1/4 the fat of high fat consumption countries are among the highest in the world for heart disease deaths.

                Explain that one anti-fat shills.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ketolard enters another thread to meme about fat not causing heart disease when the rate is a measly 5% difference to Western countries

                I notice you didn't mention coconuts being their source of fat because it would make meat look bad.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there are different kinds of fat you... you... peepee poopoo head!!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >80% of your diet is from sugar
      >apparently is it great for your diet!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >80% of your diet is fat

      >80% of your diet is from sugar
      >apparently is it great for your diet!

      >80% of your diet is from sugar
      None of these options sounds healthy.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This study is very true, as is the one about Coke increasing Testosterone, and the vaccine stopping transmission by 90%.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Eating a few white potatoes boiled with nothing else completely fricks with my blood sugar, and I am pretty sure I am not alone. Anyone who can then just pretend that is OK because "if you eat it with a bunch of other stuff you don't notice it!" is really just lying to themselves.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, carb-rich foods spike insulin because insulin is required to shuttle glucose into cells.

      Without this, you wouldn't exist.

      And you need to be on a low-fat diet (meaning 15g's max a day) for a week to really see the effects. One meal wouldn't cut it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Most people don't need insulin spiked anymore than they already do
        Cholesterol is also necessary for life so it's okay to spike that too!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >dude literally everyone is a dysgenic sedentary mutt with prediabetes
          >dude you need cholesterol so you should eat copious amounts of heart disease-causing foods

          moron

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Most people have insulin problems yes, not just diabetes
            That was a joke, just pointing out the "essential = fine to have loads!" Logic is on both sides

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Most people have insulin problems yes, not just diabetes
              He says on a board where half the users inject insulin for it's anabolic effects.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >average person is so committed to fitness that they are taking hormones
                t. moron

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Most people have insulin problems
              Amerishart moment

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There are only two natural metabolic states, it's binary, so it not being ketogenic means that following a non-ketogenic diet may be linked to higher risk of heart disease, which we already know. This is not news, this is propaganda.
    You either ARE in ketosis, or you're not. Keto is not like veganism, it's something we've all been in before and should be in.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >may
    >study suggests
    >preliminary
    >rats

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    CNN shills goislop nonstop.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Keto diet is low in potassium so it's better to supplement. I've been eating salty spam and kippers while supplementing with potassium chloride and I've been feeling great. It's not enough calories to maintain weight but I can easily gain with cereal and milk once I reach my goal. It's a lot cheaper than trying to eat enough fat and it's fortified with vitamins.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    carbs are important, drink milk

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >believed reports of fad diet being effective
    >no longer confident in fad diet because of other report saying its bad

    moron detected

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >my mom has fallen for Dr Berg and low carb shit
    She's started intermittent fasting as well smfh

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why does every meme diet thread seem to have like at most four schizos taking up all the discussion
    There's one vegangay, one peatard, one ketolard and one raw carnishart
    I can tell because they type the exact same shit every time

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >keto-like
    >may be related
    OP fell for the israeli headlines again, someone call him a rabbi ASAP

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >It's official: good goys eat grains.
    Thank you merchant.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    And calcium has been linked to cancer. And you can literally die from drinking water.

    Stop falling for clickbait. If you nitpick at details, you're going to find something wrong with everything. People losing weight are 100x more likely to die from heart disease caused by McDonald's than heart disease caused be raw meat.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >People losing weight are 100x more likely to die from heart disease caused by McDonald's than heart disease caused be raw meat.
      source

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Common sense. Stop trying to argue like a woman and use your fricking head instead of being a codependent homosexual that needs everything handed to them by someone else.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Common sense does NOT side with eating raw meat moron

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All this keto, carnivore shit is for homosexuals who decided they hated vegetables when they were 6 and never grew out of it. Kinda like how vegans are all homosexuals who had a Hamster they really liked and now think the natural order of things is literally murder.

    Eat a balanced diet, lift weights, and do your fricking cardio. If you aren't doing all of that shit then expect your health to get fricked up sooner rather than later.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Black folk always go to the absolute extreme for some reason. You are absolutely right.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Man crazy how meat started giving people heart disease during the 1900s

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Forgot the graph lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure what this has to do with what i said

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you forgot the graph b***h

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/DRg8Hzf.jpg

      The trouble with your silly little graphs is that they don't prove anything except that modern diets suck.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >may
    Dietary science MAY as well be the fricking tabloids.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    "Science" is whoever has the most money to push their products. Essentially, the most profitable foods are always pushed the most. Grain is many thousands of times more profitable than raising cattle on a farm. There are "tech" companies making fake burgers, etc. Science just reflects that because it is nothing more than a marketing tool and moronic blue-pilled left-wing morons lap it up. Classic example is vegan gainfs and his "wife". They are obese and depressed, while simultaneously spouting the "science" proving their diets are superior.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Only good post in this moronic food tribalism shit show thread

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    YES, IDIOT, WE'VE BEEN TELLING YOU THIS SINCE YOU FIRST BROUGHT IT UP!

    Like, are you literal children? Did you fricking miss Atkins? The diet gains popularity because it works for just long enough to generate hype, but after two months you plateau, so not only are you still fat, but now your sweat smells like a paper mill that's downwind from the Guinness world record holder for the largest pile of rotten eggs.

    Actual fricking morons.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, this meme does get repackaged every decade with minor modifications and a new name, so it's not too surprising the low-IQ, desperate and gullible among us keep falling for it.

    • 1 year ago
      sage

      atkins doesn't shift the body over to a different metabolism

      what is a keto-like diet? a keto-like diet is not a ketogenic diet, so you're just eating a gigantic amount of fat without the ability to process it?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        These morons think keto is eating lower carb while still keeping your insulin spiked so you just keep getting fatter. I don't even give a shit if keto isn't the best for gains. It's the best to lose a shit load of fat if you are addicted to sugar.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why id everyone so hellbent on cutting all carbs now? Just cut out all added/refined sugars and eat natural carbs in moderation.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >eat natural carbs in moderation.
      Nah. Carbs should be unlimited. Fat should be limited.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >ketolard enters another thread to meme about fat not causing heart disease when the rate is a measly 5% difference to Western countries

        I notice you didn't mention coconuts being their source of fat because it would make meat look bad.

        https://research-doc.credit-suisse.com/docView?language=ENG&format=PDF&source_id=csplusresearchcp&document_id=1053247551&serialid=MFT6JQWS%2B4FvvuMDBUQ7v7PP7ol9EaneQKi2Z8XT9V0%3D&cspId=null

        I knoow ~~*you*~~ won't read it because you're a big sugar shill. But hopefully some observers read it and learn something.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >you're a big sugar shill
          Lol, nobody in this entire thread even mentioned sugar except you moron.

          I'm just not gay and pigheaded enough to clog my arteries with saturated fat for political reasons like you dumb apes.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >muh bad cholesterol
            shut the frick up midwit

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Nobody mentioned cholesterol either moron but yes LDL cholesterol will frick your shit up

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Hey dumb frick, what do you think the effect of eating saturated fat which they say might cause heart disease (lik ethey say exercising might) is?
                It's increased LDL cholesterol you stupid b***h.
                You think you just eat saturated fat and have le heart attack because um saturated fat you dumb fricking idiot?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Wait till you learn that the body uses cholesterol to mend wounds and that arteries get lacerated by silica in table salt resulting in the body depositing cholesterol to protect the arteries from sharp particles

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >arteries get lacerated by silica in table salt
                new schizo theory?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Wait until you learn your body produces it's own cholesterol and you don't need two sticks of butter a day to thrive.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/rCifNXP.png

                Wait until you learn your body produces it's own cholesterol and you don't need two sticks of butter a day to thrive.

                Plaque is made from glycated LDL, a very specific type of LDL called VLDL, which is made out of polyunsaturated fats. On top of that PUFAs increase insulin resistance, so the VLDL is more likely to get glycated.

                https://i.imgur.com/uczfum4.jpg

                >noooo you can't just trust objective reality AND the science
                >you must clog your arteries and eat raw meat because Aajonus Vonderplanitz (a israelite) said so!

                That's just water weight from glycogen. I can literally increase my carb intake from 200g to 400g and gain 5 lbs of "Lean Muscle Mass."

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Plaque is made from glycated LDL, a very specific type of LDL called VLDL, which is made out of polyunsaturated fats.
                proof?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11606787/

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11606787/
                >In LDLRKO mice, compared with the SFA diet, the MUFA and CARB diets significantly increased atherosclerosis in both sexes, but the PUFA diet had no effect
                >Compared with the SFA diet, the CARB diet significantly decreased VLDL-C in males and the MUFA, PUFA, and CARB diets decreased VLDL-C and the CARB diet decreased LDL-C in females
                >Affiliation: Laboratory of Biochemical Geneticsand Metabolism, The Rockefeller University, New York, NY 10021, USA.

                Ahh yes, the final boss, the one nutrient we haven't memed as the bad guy

                >Monounsaturated fats

                It was them all along. Hiding behind saturated fats, sneed oils, carbs, and antinootrients. The avocado was behind it all

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                its a good thing im not a mouse cause i just had a whole jar of olives

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Your foaming-at-the-mouth level of aggression is caused by your lack of cholesterol, chubs.
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30684788/

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >diet based around eating tons of saturated fats is bad for you
    what a shocker

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    well thats nothing wait until you see the studies linking carb heavy diets with heart disease. then you will be worried.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    LE CARBORINOS!!!!!!!!!

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Low carb for life baby

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >fad diet centered around eliminating one macro from your daily life turns out to have negative effects on your health
    Shocking.
    Reminder that ketoschizos are the same people that say CICO doesn't work.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Vegan schizos are the same that claim that people haven't developed diseases that can't tolerate carbs yet can eat meats like they are the liver king.

      homosexual.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >oH nO i'M aLlErGiC tO cArBs
        No, you're just moronic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          See? Some people are literally allergic to carbs, homosexual: https://www.msdmanuals.com/professional/gastrointestinal-disorders/malabsorption-syndromes/carbohydrate-intolerance

          Now tell me of a disease other than mental that is similar towards meat.

          Vegan schizos BTFO again.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >some people
            Ah yes the classic 1% of people affected by something used as a scapegoat for your moronic ideas.
            You sound like fatties that use thyroid problems as an excuse as to why they're 500lbs planetoids.

            >vegan schizos
            Who the frick are you even arguing with? I'm not vegan.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              > Clearly defend and dodges points given with evidence.
              > Who the frick you are arguing with I'm not vegan!!!

              Typical schizo vegan keep defending your muh carbs based diet.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Google "lone star tick disease", that's just one that is around in America.

            You can develop an allergy to anything, doesn't immediately mean that thing some people have allergies too is automatically bad for consumption by all you nitwit.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          eat 4 white boiled potatoes by themselves and report back

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Have done it in the past many times, what about it?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I do that all the time. I don't get any negative effects out of it whatsoever.

              t. other anon

              Well some people are obviously different because if I eat 4 white boiled potatoes with nothing on them and nothing else, my blood sugar goes crazy. Same as eating lots of sultanas, etc. It has been like this since I was a kid and I have never been even slightly overweight.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >my blood sugar goes crazy
                So you have a medical condition.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Ahh no I don't have a medical condition. White potatoes have the highest GI of any food, so I doubt many people can eat 4 white potatoes with nothing and not experience that feeling, but some people will pretend anything I guess.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't have a medical condition
                >my blood sugar gets FRICKED the moment I eat a few potatoes
                Anon, you have a medical condition.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don't because all of those things get checked via blood tests and I have nothing. I just get a rush of blood type feeling to the head which signifies my body has dumped a bunch of glucose into my blood stream quickly, which is the nature of eating high GI foods. They provide a lot of glucose very quickly. Maybe you just aren't aware of it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't
                >except a few potatoes frick my shit up
                So you got a medical condition lmao

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Proving that carbs only aren't muh healthy diet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >carbs only
                Except nobody here is proposing a carbs only diet? You're fighting windmills, you moronic b***h.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Stop hiding that you aren't going apeshit and calling everyone a ketoschizo just because they are promoting lesser carb diet, veganschizo can't handle it, boohoo.

                Maybe if you ate more meat you would be less of a homosexual thinking about sucking other people's dicks.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >veganschizo
                Is that veganschizo person in the room with us, anon?

                >if you ate more meat
                I ate 500g of pork today Black.

                >sucking other people's dicks
                You have a lot of gay thoughts anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > Pork.

                That's not healthy meat though, confirmed sóóyboy understanding of meat.

                > Posting anime faces of a guy with pink hair.

                Totally not gay, homosexual pig.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >not healthy
                Don't care. Frick israelites, frick muslims and frick Black folk.
                I'm bigger and stronger than you.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Post body, you are literally eating sóoy disguised as a meat. I'm neither of them that you claim, but as far as meats go even a cow, a lamb or a goat is more healthier meal and beneficial than a pig is.

                Veganschizos will never get it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >262 posts
                >zero bodies posted
                I'm gonna assume ketotards are dyel and/or fat.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm assuming veganschizos who post animu from tumblr are either trannies on drugs or skeletons.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >veganschizos
                Where are they? Are they here with us?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You sound just like one and are one. Stop larping as someone who eats meat because clearly, you do not.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOO YOU CAN'T EAT PORK
                I can. I will. You sound like a mad israelite.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > Posts someone else's physique.
                > Posts a clearly on steroids scruberoni.
                > Still defending they aren't gay.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >trying to diss marky mark
                >didn't post body
                lol why are you barking, dyel?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don't get it. According to ketoshitter, you die from vegan diet in a week. But somehow vegans are also everywhere.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The rona was supposed to take the obese, there are more of those mofos than ever.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >tranime avatargayging
                lmao

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >complaining about anime on an anime board

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >posting anime on an anime board to discuss anime
                Ok

                >irrelevantly posting a shot of an anime character as a PFP/avatar
                Tranime. You Will Never Be Anime.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So can you go 2 days without eating foods and not experience low blood sugar levels as well? What level of pretending do you need to justify your arguments?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >So can you go 2 days without eating foods and not experience low blood sugar levels as well?
                Haven't tried 2 days in a row, but I've done 24 hour fasts several times.
                What about it?

                >pretending
                Not my fault your genes are trash.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                and you feel exactly the same as when you eat regularly? and you can also fly, etc etc...

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >and you feel exactly the same as when you eat regularly?
                Hungry mostly.
                What's your point, ketotard?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And the only types of medical conditions only affect the following food types: Dairy (Lactose Intolerance) and Vegetables.

                Frick you schizo. Meat is the safest food out there if you prepare it right.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Meat is the safest food
                Who was arguing against meat, you fricking schizophrenic?
                Take your meds b***h.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                "KETOSCHIZO!" is only used by veganschizos who are gay, lefitst and weak minded little b***hes who when they hear to add meat to the diet get scared and yell KETOSCHIZO.

                Shut up b***h breasts.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I do that all the time. I don't get any negative effects out of it whatsoever.

            t. other anon

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      CICO doesn't really work other than to lose body mass. Keto doesn't eliminate carbs, it reduces them to < 50g, and the "study" mentioned was not specific to keto.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >CICO doesn't really work
        >other than to lose body mass
        So it literally works, you fricking nonce.

        >Keto doesn't eliminate carbs
        >reduces them to < 50g
        lmao
        Can't make this shit up.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          sure if you like losing a lot of muscle as well

          49g of carbs is not "eliminating carbs". how many gs of fat do you eat a day? You probably dont even know.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >sure if you like losing a lot of muscle as well
            WHAT PRINCIPLE DOES CICO WORK ON?
            Hint: it's not about macros, you moronic b***h.

            >49g of carbs is not "eliminating carbs"
            lol

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              the laws of thermodynamics, roughly applied to nutrition even though it isn't entirely accurate as the body doesn't necessarily use all of the energy it consumes

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Energy in, energy out, Black. You consume less - you lose weight. You consume more - you gain weight.
                Macros are not even in the picture.

                >it isn't entirely accurate
                >the body doesn't necessarily use all of the energy it consumes
                In today's episode of "what is": what the frick is TDEE?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Sure but you can't accurately calculate any of these things.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you can't accurately calculate any of these things
                Millions of people around the world do.
                Inb4 - (You) try to argue that being off by 1kcal is somehow going to turn you into a fat piece of shit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                mm, anyway, all it determines is how much mass you lose, not specific fat/muscle ratios lost, which is hormone related.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >not specific fat/muscle ratios lost
                Nobody is arguing about that

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Usually people want to lose fat specifically

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >people want to lose fat
                So just eat less?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                mmm, that is part of it, but not the whole story. as an anecdote, if you took steroids while eating less, you would have a better BF percentage, hence achieving a better outcome, as the goal is "best BF percentage at the end of my diet", not "less mass at the end of my diet".

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >if you took test you would get more muscle
                WOW
                I guess keto will have the same results as pinning test then.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                nope, but there is a lot more to it than just eating less, especially once you have finished dieting, as "eating less" is a guide to nothing at that point.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Millions of people around the world do.
                lol
                >being off by 1kcal is somehow going to turn you into a fat piece of shit.
                no, but being off by 50kcal will, over time, say a decade or two. and it's slow enough that you and the people around you won't even notice it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >being off by 50kcal will
                >I'm just going to aim to eat at my TDEE, but constantly be off by 50kcal for two decades
                Some other imaginary scenarios, ketoturd?

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Im a moron and i have a semi keto related question. If i eat 2 eggs nearly every morning and have a cup of greek yogurt or skyr twice or thrice a week will my arteries clog and heart explode?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      only if you're obese and bulking

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ketoschizos argue for their meme diet
    >nobody ever posts results
    Keto is a way for fatties and dyels to eat like pigs while pretending to be healthy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      imagine the amount of propaganda you have to be fed to equate natural, whole foods that taste good to "eating like pigs" just because the food has fat in it. This is the power of government propaganda. The irony is that the people who eat like pigs are always doing it with high carb diets, not high fat diets. If you do the maths, you will notice this as well. They aren't getting fat eating eggs and rib eye steak, they are getting fat eating massive amounts of potato chips, pizzas, ice cream that is infused with as much corn syrup as possible, etc.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Asians live off of white rice and beans.

        Pure carbs. No asian country has over 5% obesity. America sits at 45%.

        Cope>seethe

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          they have disproportionate rates of diabetes from all the white rice

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is as good an argument as any to push vegan and high carb diets for redditors and associated rabble: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34829788/

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Associated does not equate responsible for
    If the majority of people who try keto are overweight which i'll assume they are, they would have a higher rate of heart disease *because they are overweight* and were before keto, for an example of how correlation=/=causation

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They controlled for age, weight, smoking, drinking etc as usual. Typical ketolard cope to insist it was anything but saturated fat dropping people dead. When pushed to corner you literally start arguing the people who failed didn't suck as much dick as you did therefore keto didn't work. Hurr they didn't control for number of dicks sucked and semen swallowed therefore can't say it was saturated fat suck more dicks people durr derp derp.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        still just a correlation. a very weak correlation at that. when they try to control for confounders they are really just guessing or likely confirming their existing biases

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You mean the control group didn't suck as many dicks as keto group? Gotcha, we all know that, homosexual.

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I just eat lower carb, whole ingredient foods, meat I get from the local farm

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >280 posts in and ketoschizo is calling everyone who disagrees with him a vegan troony
    >he spent half the thread in a schizophrenic rant against boiled potatoes

    This shit is just too moronic for me

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I used to do keto and I just looked flat all the time. Didn't suffer too much in performance in the gym but having a candy bar pre-gym and then a good portion of rice or potatoes with my meal afterwards, I look much better.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think some kind of very loose paleo diet is best.
    Just ask yourself "did humans evolve to consume this" and of the answer is yes then you're golden.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >believes in evolution

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Just ask yourself "did humans evolve to consume this" and of the answer is yes then you're golden.
      Yes indeed we vegans are right and true paleo is a vegan diet rich in fiber low in fat. This is evident by evolution of our skulls and dentals which have progressively evolved to be more that of a herbivore like horse and less that of a meat eater or even omnivore like bear. We mog even the chimps and gorillas with our fine dentals devoid of prominent fangs which other primates have. We also have excellent molars and jaw mobility for chewing grains.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        most of our GI tract is similar to that of carnivores

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Independent verification disproves every one of your points.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            nonsense pic. human stomach ph is not 4-5. try again without a vegan propaganda source

            Both gorillas and humans have a small intestine that is about 6 meters long and a large intestine that is about 1.5 meters long. The only thing lacking in humans compared to gorilla is prominent cecum, and of course gorilla large intestine has more volume. Now pay attention: gorilla is 2-3 times the size yet our intestines are roughly the same size and same ratios. Now go talk to gorillas how they are actually lions. Honk honk.

            no its not. try again. gorilla have large colons and cecum for hindgut fermentation. humans do not

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              "The normal human stomach has a pH which can range from approximately 1-3 but is usually closer to 2. When there is food in the stomach the pH can raise to as high as 4-5. After the food leaves the stomach bicarbonate ions are secreted to neutralize and alkalinize the mixture.Feb 14, 2003"
              http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=275

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                thanks for proving my point

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The picture says "pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach"

                Not my fault you're an illiterate moron.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That's because you're feeding them the wrong food

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Both gorillas and humans have a small intestine that is about 6 meters long and a large intestine that is about 1.5 meters long. The only thing lacking in humans compared to gorilla is prominent cecum, and of course gorilla large intestine has more volume. Now pay attention: gorilla is 2-3 times the size yet our intestines are roughly the same size and same ratios. Now go talk to gorillas how they are actually lions. Honk honk.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Every single moron goes on the ketodiet
    >Heart issues start going up
    >Now keto-tards are joining the conspiracy morons about the covid vaccine and blod clots
    If I didn't quit my medical job, I would have went postal.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much this. Ketards are somehow also antivaxx and extremely conspiratorial. It's a compound mental illness, really. They frick up their own life and health with their nasty diet and end up blaming everything including water instead of themselves. Sad!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Confirmation bias fricked horseshoe theory and this is their moronic child ultimately.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      heart disease started shooting in the 1900s after sneed oils were introduced

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much this. Ketards are somehow also antivaxx and extremely conspiratorial. It's a compound mental illness, really. They frick up their own life and health with their nasty diet and end up blaming everything including water instead of themselves. Sad!

      It is funny how left vs right goes right down to things like diet as well. I have noticed you homosexualy authority worshipers are all vegans or high carb or basically whatever the government says is good for you, while us right wingers often go towards carnivore, keto, etc, which is basically the opposite of what the government says is good for you if you look at the food pyramid (dairy and meat at the top).

      It is funny how you people are too stupid to realise the government just puts out propaganda in the form of science etc and the government is controlled by big business who profit more from grain than meat. Meat is just a bunch of inbred farmers making a decent wage. Grain is global corporations making billions of dollars. Kellongs etc. You haven't figured this out about life because you have a genetic predisposition to trust the government, and are always wrong because the government is corrupt.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it basically boils down to how much advertising and lies you beleive.

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >keto like diet
    >In the study, researchers defined a low-carb, high-fat (LCHF) diet as 45% of total daily calories coming from fat and 25% coming from carbohydrates
    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/05/health/keto-low-carb-high-fat-diets-heart-disease/index.html
    nice joke study

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Still selling the "bad cholesterol" meme after all this time
    >CNN

    lol fricking christ Boomers

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I will continue eating my 80 20 ground beef, eggs, and veggies. These israelites just want us to eat the bugs

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Keto is meant to prepare you for a fast. Low PUFA keto + 40:8 ADF is guaranteed weight loss. Way easier to get into a fast with keto.

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