>Michael Gregor
Have you actually seen was this cunt looks like? He's a soi boy liberal gay and that's being nice. Anyone who can look at him and take his advice on health and nutrition has no hope in this world
He doesn't look unhealthy though? Who are you supposed to listen to? A red faced roider that could potentially die any day from cardiac arrest or kidney failure?
>Undermine exercise efforts and muscle shrinkage
How would this cunt know? Look at him. He's 50 years old and looks like late 60s, he looks like he has little to no testosterone. In what world is that considered healthy. My dad is 70 next year. Looks younger than him and he has never once dieted. Not saying he's healthy but imo he looks healthier than this garden gnome
[...]
He doesn't look unhealthy though? Who are you supposed to listen to? A red faced roider that could potentially die any day from cardiac arrest or kidney failure?
To be fair, you need to compare Dr Greger to people his age of a similar ethnicity. He's clearly just an ugly dude, but vs Harvey Weinstein he looks the picture of health.
You wouldn't compared a Chinese Great Crested to a Beagle to see if it looked healthy or not, so why do the same with humans?
Are you seriously saying I can't look in the mirror and tell that my diet is better because I'm white? Your defense for veganism is white supremacy?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Retard moment. You're saying Dr Greger looks unhealthy. Compared to what? Compared to whom?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Compared to 70 year old cancer patients.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
just about every health-conscious 50yo ive ever met
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Compare him to his peer group: 50-something gnomish men. He has a clear, even complexion, indicating low inflammation and good circulatory health.
Health is not synonymous with high muscle mass.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>a clear, even complexion
jesus christ, that's a new low even for you guys
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah you're right anon, he would look much healthier with reddish, leathery, blotchy, blemished, inflamed roider skin.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have a clear complexion and I eat nearly a kilogram of meat every day.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wow you have the same skin as a 50-year old vegan doctor
what a win
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Skin is a good inidcator of health. Keto trannies like Liver king, Saladino, Baker all have red skin and burst capillaries. High blood pressure and histamine overload does that.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Vegans have terrible skin. One of the most common ex-vegan testimonials is skin improvements.
Baker and Saladino are very pale. Liver King is a big time roider. So I don't know what point you are making. I could list off several vegan influencers with horrific skin, notably the freak Greger himself.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Baker has fuckin awful skin compared to Greger
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>roiding but not fixing teeth
that keto brainfog in full effect
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It’s the tanning retard. >be garden gnome who spends 95% of his life inside
Vs >be red blooded white man who has been in the sun for 50 years
Hardly a surprise. Keto is still retarded though
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Baker and Saladino are very pale
Not really. They both have a lot of visible sun damage.
https://i.imgur.com/DpK08jJ.jpg
Baker has fuckin awful skin compared to Greger
>Baker has fuckin awful skin
From tanning, not diet.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
When a healthy person gets exposed to sun they do get tanned. Those retards are not tanned at all, they are just perma red. Like their skin isn’t working properly.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Carnivores don't eat much carotenoids and if they're white, their skin doesn't have much melanin so the only skin colorant left is blood
In Saladino's case he gave himself iron overload with his bizarre fruit+meat diet so his skin is also getting wrecked from iron oxidation and his paranoia about sunscreen
Maybe he should have watched Greger's video about the interaction between vitamin C and iron
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah I'm aware that vegans say that a lot. I just read it as an indication that they're running out of real things to say.
>w-well that guy's skin is red
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>yeah I'm aware that vegans say that a lot.
Not just vegans saying it
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0531556507001635?via%3Dihub >The skin as a mirror of the aging process in the human organism--state of the art and results of the aging research in the German National Genome Research Network 2 (NGFN-2)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3583891/ >Discovering the link between nutrition and skin aging >Skin has been reported to reflect the general inner-health status and aging. Nutrition and its reflection on skin has always been an interesting topic for scientists and physicians throughout the centuries worldwide. Vitamins, carotenoids, tocopherols, flavonoids and a variety of plant extracts have been reported to possess potent anti-oxidant properties and have been widely used in the skin care industry either as topically applied agents or oral supplements in an attempt to prolong youthful skin appearance.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah but carnies dont really have bad skin. better than vegans wrinkly faces on the whole
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Post one of a similar age to Greger with better skin
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
shawn baker already has better looking skin than greger, no need to find any more
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Can you point to any vegans with that persistent red skin syndrome? Now that you wanted to slide attention elsewhere from how carnitards look like…
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah but they're all like redneck tan too. people say roids make people's skin look old but I think that's just bodybuilders getting baked and tan
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wow, he can circulate blood all the way through 60kg of low output yiddish garbage. I'm so impressed.
He looks like he had shit genetics and obviously doesn't lift but you can't his cardiovascular health, organ health, blood profiles, etc from that image
saladino spends too much time in the sun, i've even seen him surfing at like 12 pm, no amount of dietary change will let you get away with it scot free. i live in the tropics and Saladino has the same skin conditions as the coolies who spend 8 hours in the sun
Take note of this picture. These types always try and take picrures like this. Staring slack eyed into the camera with their repulsive disrespectful bodies just slobbed out. "I'm ok with this. Are you? You should be" is what they try to convey, but it always just looks like someone who's incredibly sick getting and has the faculties of a lobotomy victim.
>Michael Gregor
Have you actually seen was this cunt looks like? He's a soi boy liberal gay and that's being nice. Anyone who can look at him and take his advice on health and nutrition has no hope in this world
It actually does because it's possible to cherrypick your sources. In something like nutrition, you're very likely to find papers with contradictory results.
It does though. People can't replicate other peoples results. It's a whole thing. They call it the replication crisis.
It actually does because it's possible to cherrypick your sources. In something like nutrition, you're very likely to find papers with contradictory results.
Untrue. You won’t find a single paper demonstrating that eating more meat improves your health or eating more saturated fat reduces your heart disease risk.
When you have the result you want already in mind, and then try every sneaky way to "prove" it through mental gymnastics, wordplay, and leaps of faith- it ceases to be the scientific method.
true. science is garbage no matter who reports it. 99% of all nutrition studies are of such poor quality, they are indistinguishable from any random guess.
that said, keto is still a cult and still doesn't work.
>Michael Gregor
Have you actually seen was this cunt looks like? He's a soi boy liberal gay and that's being nice. Anyone who can look at him and take his advice on health and nutrition has no hope in this world
>I already mentioned the shrinkage of measured muscle size among CrossFit trainees. >CrossFit >Some of the case reports of children on keto diets are truly heart-wrenching. >Children >Why not tell people to smoke? Cigarettes can cause weight loss too, as can tuberculosis and a good meth habit
He's anti-fluoride though, so partly based?
Got to respect the guy for following the data on this, even when it went againt his previously held beliefs.
IST likes to clown on the guy but he's interested in healthspan, not looksmaxxing or strengthmaxxing
ah yes let me take my nutrition advice from a paid shill on twitter because he went to college for 5 years to become a doctor
he sure must have learned a lot looking at his miserably average body
Says the fucking loser who has never lifted a weight or weight trained in his whole life and does a study on 90 year old women who he gets to lift one gram of sugar as a workout then points and goes looookkk meat doesnt workkk
My wife struggled with weight loss after having kids. One thing that broke her plateau is just eating a carnivore diet. She was still able to train in the gym, keep her little woman gains, and lose fat.
I never talked her into it, that’s just what she wanted to do. She would have lost boat loads more weight going vegan, BUT, she enjoys eating meat more than vegetables and stuff. And I believe when you go down the vegan route, boy will you lose weight, but it’s coming off everything. Muscle, bone, fat, connective tissue, brain cells (judging off how most vegans behave), and it if doesn’t seem wise to do unless you’re just doing some extreme dieting.
Anyways, she’s happy with what she did. I am too. Veganism is probably a useful tool if someone can step out of the purely ideological box that usually leads them there
>My wife struggled with weight loss after having kids. One thing that broke her plateau is just eating a carnivore diet.
All 3 gym thots at my gym got back to normal weight after pregnancy without the use of meme diets. I bet your wife is all up on instragram posting about her carnivore diet. Reason she is doing that is for attention. Sorry for the cynical take. Devils advocate
>My wife struggled with weight loss after having kids. One thing that broke her plateau is just eating a carnivore diet.
All 3 gym thots at my gym got back to normal weight after pregnancy without the use of meme diets. I bet your wife is all up on instragram posting about her carnivore diet. Reason she is doing that is for attention. Sorry for the cynical take. Devils advocate
>unironcally shilling veganism
Wtf? This is the worst thing you can fucking do. You either eat plants or things made in a lab from plants. Humans are not designed to eat that. You're correct in saying you lose weight in everything. Vegans look like they age 20 years in less than 5. Congrats on finding a wife who isn't retarded but just know she's the smart one in the relationship.
Not only do I eat keto, but I also do regular fasts of 24-48 hours. The benefits have been too good for me, and frankly even if they weren't, it makes anons COPE and SEETHE, and that's worth destroying my body for 😉
who gives a fuck you absolute fucking retards? why would you care what he looks like instead of looking health-outcome data of whatever study he's citing and attacking that? would you also stop drinking water if an ugly DYEL told you that water is necessary to live?
>why would you care what he looks like instead of looking health-outcome data of whatever study he's citing and attacking that?
Anglo culture of bullying, also, ketolards don't really have any arguments, so they go for insults. Occam's razor. Same thing as "post body", really.
All you need to do is look at a side by side of Greger and Baker. You don't even have to look into his claims, which are all ridiculous pseudo-science. You have to be legitimately stupid (like most women) to go vegan.
>
Pretty obvious to anyone whose actually done it and isn't in denial
I did steak and eggs diet before and lifting just sucked
like I could do alright but I couldn't push myself and wore out faster
I was definitely adapted I did it for like 8 months
carbs just give you that extra oomph though like a turbo mode
and obviously build muscles better than just fat and protein
become an omnivore chad
it's what was always meant to be
a winner
ive been on keto to cut, and bulking with the same keto diet plus MILK. rate my everyday brunch meal >1 cup cabbage sauted in butter >4 eggs >some cheese >mix egg yolks into 3/4 cup yoghurt >salt pepper red pepper garlic powder dill
yeah no shit
anyone that actually works out and has even a rudimentary understanding of cellular energy pathwatys realizes keto is retarded, its for epileptics and sedentary lardasses
Just eat >>SOME<< carbs on your resting days, eat a bit more on your exercise days.
Not rocket surgery, retards.
Most amerilards could probably cut their carb intake by 75% and substitute it by protein and fats and probably suffer no ill effects, on the contrary, they would probably benefit from eat.
Also, no grains or seed oils.
Lol
But by bone loss they mean demineralization and a decrease in density, like in the case of osteoporosis. They don't mean that half your femur just fuckin goes missing overnight kek.
You see, when a human being enters a metabolic state of ketosis, it gives off a stench, a vile stench, although it isn't detectable by us.. I imagine you see where this is leading.
I've never been more lean and shredded than when I'm near the like, the 2 or 3 month mark on keto (and then I stop cuz I have nowhere else to go from there).
>best known for his advocacy of a whole-food, plant-based diet
Well, what are you waiting for anon? Go eat the soi and live a healthy life under the guidance of Dr Greger. I am sure his studies were very well designed and thorough.
>The color of our skin should not determine the length and quality of our lives
wow, three posts into his twitter nad he has already got diversity posts! This is definitely not a red flag at all. Good luck anon! God speed!
Problem is most people who shill keto are roided out of their fucking mind and larping that keto and not their gorilla test levels are the cause of their gains.
>Correlation does not equal causation. >Statistical 'adjustment' is literally just fudging the numbers to suit your agenda. >Signal to noise ratio is always too high to make any scientific claims. >Conflicts of interest and publishing bias are everywhere. >Relative risk is irrelevant. The only thing that matter is the change in absolute risk across 100 person-years of intervention.
Nutrition science is bullshit. Greger has never practiced medicine and has the musculature and bone density of a 90-year-old woman.
I'm on keto and perfectly fine.
>perfectly fine
gay
You look vile. Like the worst kind of androgyny possible.
are you on estrogen? Cuz you titmog me and I'm on estrogen
why do you have tits?
You're right, you're perfectly fine, baby girl. I'm sure you taste perfect too.
nice tits, my dude, lemme get a suck in
FUCK! My body literally unironically looks like
Anons, I need help! I don’t what to do.
I try to eat a lot of protein and I lift for hypertrophy 6 days a week and I still look like this.
I’m losing hope.
How long have you been on keto? And what exercise do you do?
succulent tits, bro
Listen, I love being a good goy as much as the next guy.
But if this dude tells me how to be healthy and fit, I'd rather listen to Liver King
He doesn't look unhealthy though? Who are you supposed to listen to? A red faced roider that could potentially die any day from cardiac arrest or kidney failure?
>He doesn't look unhealthy though?
Looks like a balding rat though
Physiognomy is always at least 70% right
>Undermine exercise efforts and muscle shrinkage
How would this cunt know? Look at him. He's 50 years old and looks like late 60s, he looks like he has little to no testosterone. In what world is that considered healthy. My dad is 70 next year. Looks younger than him and he has never once dieted. Not saying he's healthy but imo he looks healthier than this garden gnome
Replied to the wrong cunt sorry, ment for (you)
To be fair, you need to compare Dr Greger to people his age of a similar ethnicity. He's clearly just an ugly dude, but vs Harvey Weinstein he looks the picture of health.
You wouldn't compared a Chinese Great Crested to a Beagle to see if it looked healthy or not, so why do the same with humans?
Are you seriously saying I can't look in the mirror and tell that my diet is better because I'm white? Your defense for veganism is white supremacy?
Retard moment. You're saying Dr Greger looks unhealthy. Compared to what? Compared to whom?
Compared to 70 year old cancer patients.
just about every health-conscious 50yo ive ever met
Compare him to his peer group: 50-something gnomish men. He has a clear, even complexion, indicating low inflammation and good circulatory health.
Health is not synonymous with high muscle mass.
>a clear, even complexion
jesus christ, that's a new low even for you guys
Yeah you're right anon, he would look much healthier with reddish, leathery, blotchy, blemished, inflamed roider skin.
I have a clear complexion and I eat nearly a kilogram of meat every day.
Wow you have the same skin as a 50-year old vegan doctor
what a win
Skin is a good inidcator of health. Keto trannies like Liver king, Saladino, Baker all have red skin and burst capillaries. High blood pressure and histamine overload does that.
Vegans have terrible skin. One of the most common ex-vegan testimonials is skin improvements.
Baker and Saladino are very pale. Liver King is a big time roider. So I don't know what point you are making. I could list off several vegan influencers with horrific skin, notably the freak Greger himself.
Baker has fuckin awful skin compared to Greger
>roiding but not fixing teeth
that keto brainfog in full effect
It’s the tanning retard.
>be garden gnome who spends 95% of his life inside
Vs
>be red blooded white man who has been in the sun for 50 years
Hardly a surprise. Keto is still retarded though
>Baker and Saladino are very pale
Not really. They both have a lot of visible sun damage.
>Baker has fuckin awful skin
From tanning, not diet.
When a healthy person gets exposed to sun they do get tanned. Those retards are not tanned at all, they are just perma red. Like their skin isn’t working properly.
Carnivores don't eat much carotenoids and if they're white, their skin doesn't have much melanin so the only skin colorant left is blood
In Saladino's case he gave himself iron overload with his bizarre fruit+meat diet so his skin is also getting wrecked from iron oxidation and his paranoia about sunscreen
Maybe he should have watched Greger's video about the interaction between vitamin C and iron
yeah I'm aware that vegans say that a lot. I just read it as an indication that they're running out of real things to say.
>w-well that guy's skin is red
>yeah I'm aware that vegans say that a lot.
Not just vegans saying it
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0531556507001635?via%3Dihub
>The skin as a mirror of the aging process in the human organism--state of the art and results of the aging research in the German National Genome Research Network 2 (NGFN-2)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3583891/
>Discovering the link between nutrition and skin aging
>Skin has been reported to reflect the general inner-health status and aging. Nutrition and its reflection on skin has always been an interesting topic for scientists and physicians throughout the centuries worldwide. Vitamins, carotenoids, tocopherols, flavonoids and a variety of plant extracts have been reported to possess potent anti-oxidant properties and have been widely used in the skin care industry either as topically applied agents or oral supplements in an attempt to prolong youthful skin appearance.
yeah but carnies dont really have bad skin. better than vegans wrinkly faces on the whole
Post one of a similar age to Greger with better skin
shawn baker already has better looking skin than greger, no need to find any more
Can you point to any vegans with that persistent red skin syndrome? Now that you wanted to slide attention elsewhere from how carnitards look like…
yeah but they're all like redneck tan too. people say roids make people's skin look old but I think that's just bodybuilders getting baked and tan
Wow, he can circulate blood all the way through 60kg of low output yiddish garbage. I'm so impressed.
me
Are you 50yo?
>to be fair, you need to lower your standards
I won't garden gnome
>He doesn't look unhealthy though?
He looks like he had shit genetics and obviously doesn't lift but you can't his cardiovascular health, organ health, blood profiles, etc from that image
49 and looks 69
It's literally just the baldness.
Look at his skin, now compare to the skin of Shawn Baker
I will listen to the nice gnomish man, thank you very much
Greger is all right but dude has obviously never lifted a day in his life
At least he most definitely did not destroy his skin with iron poisoning like Saladino
saladino spends too much time in the sun, i've even seen him surfing at like 12 pm, no amount of dietary change will let you get away with it scot free. i live in the tropics and Saladino has the same skin conditions as the coolies who spend 8 hours in the sun
Do you realize he is in his 40's in this picture?
False dilemma but I'd listen to a roider for dietary advice before some upbooted science by a guy looking like that.
>trust the science goy
What a grotesque creature
Irrelevant screenshot posted by deranged retard.
It's literally the guy this thread is about you retard.
you mad, booster boi?
HAHAHAHAHA
You may not like it, but this I what peak performance looks like.
lmao he isn't even a healthy weight
do americans really think this is an acceptable body for any age?
Take note of this picture. These types always try and take picrures like this. Staring slack eyed into the camera with their repulsive disrespectful bodies just slobbed out. "I'm ok with this. Are you? You should be" is what they try to convey, but it always just looks like someone who's incredibly sick getting and has the faculties of a lobotomy victim.
Reminds me of pic related
science doesn't change based on who reports it
>science
Lol
reality is real
It actually does because it's possible to cherrypick your sources. In something like nutrition, you're very likely to find papers with contradictory results.
Untrue. You won’t find a single paper demonstrating that eating more meat improves your health or eating more saturated fat reduces your heart disease risk.
multiple RCTs show that saturated fat is healthier than vegetable oils or carbohydrates
It does though. People can't replicate other peoples results. It's a whole thing. They call it the replication crisis.
Has nothing to do with anything
When you have the result you want already in mind, and then try every sneaky way to "prove" it through mental gymnastics, wordplay, and leaps of faith- it ceases to be the scientific method.
He's not just ugly he also looks unhealthy
true. science is garbage no matter who reports it. 99% of all nutrition studies are of such poor quality, they are indistinguishable from any random guess.
that said, keto is still a cult and still doesn't work.
You can't lose muscle if you never had any to begin with.
Even his sunflower is shriveled up.
>Michael Gregor
Have you actually seen was this cunt looks like? He's a soi boy liberal gay and that's being nice. Anyone who can look at him and take his advice on health and nutrition has no hope in this world
He also looks like a garden gnome
>I already mentioned the shrinkage of measured muscle size among CrossFit trainees.
>CrossFit
>Some of the case reports of children on keto diets are truly heart-wrenching.
>Children
>Why not tell people to smoke? Cigarettes can cause weight loss too, as can tuberculosis and a good meth habit
Vegans lie to save animals.
To them, it's a religion, not a lifestyle.
He's anti-fluoride though, so partly based?
Got to respect the guy for following the data on this, even when it went againt his previously held beliefs.
IST likes to clown on the guy but he's interested in healthspan, not looksmaxxing or strengthmaxxing
Not surprising, it's still great for weight loss but no point doing it all year
ah yes let me take my nutrition advice from a paid shill on twitter because he went to college for 5 years to become a doctor
he sure must have learned a lot looking at his miserably average body
FYI the authors of that study are:
Ari Shekelstein
Yuval Schlomowitz
And Lenny Nunezvaz
Those names sound made up.
Says the fucking loser who has never lifted a weight or weight trained in his whole life and does a study on 90 year old women who he gets to lift one gram of sugar as a workout then points and goes looookkk meat doesnt workkk
hmmm
>shows a ripped dude preparing steak
???
>pic of Michael greger
Yeah, no, I think I'll go to other sources thank you very much.
My wife struggled with weight loss after having kids. One thing that broke her plateau is just eating a carnivore diet. She was still able to train in the gym, keep her little woman gains, and lose fat.
I never talked her into it, that’s just what she wanted to do. She would have lost boat loads more weight going vegan, BUT, she enjoys eating meat more than vegetables and stuff. And I believe when you go down the vegan route, boy will you lose weight, but it’s coming off everything. Muscle, bone, fat, connective tissue, brain cells (judging off how most vegans behave), and it if doesn’t seem wise to do unless you’re just doing some extreme dieting.
Anyways, she’s happy with what she did. I am too. Veganism is probably a useful tool if someone can step out of the purely ideological box that usually leads them there
Based sensible poster.
>My wife struggled with weight loss after having kids. One thing that broke her plateau is just eating a carnivore diet.
All 3 gym thots at my gym got back to normal weight after pregnancy without the use of meme diets. I bet your wife is all up on instragram posting about her carnivore diet. Reason she is doing that is for attention. Sorry for the cynical take. Devils advocate
does "extreme diet" sensible
My wife doesn’t have Instagram you incredible dumbass
you mad you moron?
>oh no someone called me out!
Cry more retard.
how is someone "called out"?
>make shit up
>get called a dumb ass
>called out
Simple as
>this is your average alpha male.
>unironcally shilling veganism
Wtf? This is the worst thing you can fucking do. You either eat plants or things made in a lab from plants. Humans are not designed to eat that. You're correct in saying you lose weight in everything. Vegans look like they age 20 years in less than 5. Congrats on finding a wife who isn't retarded but just know she's the smart one in the relationship.
Not only do I eat keto, but I also do regular fasts of 24-48 hours. The benefits have been too good for me, and frankly even if they weren't, it makes anons COPE and SEETHE, and that's worth destroying my body for 😉
>keto and fasting makes idiots cope and seethe
Uhh... no? Idiots are the ones doing keto and fasts.
I'm not the one making threads and arguing with them about it. These ketoCHADS live in your head rent free, and that makes me quite happy.
who gives a fuck you absolute fucking retards? why would you care what he looks like instead of looking health-outcome data of whatever study he's citing and attacking that? would you also stop drinking water if an ugly DYEL told you that water is necessary to live?
but muh epidemiology
>why would you care what he looks like instead of looking health-outcome data of whatever study he's citing and attacking that?
Anglo culture of bullying, also, ketolards don't really have any arguments, so they go for insults. Occam's razor. Same thing as "post body", really.
>Anglo culture of bullying
>ketolards
>they go for insults
uh-huh
The garden gnome cries as I strike him.
The white man smiles his gleeful colonial racist smile as he strikes them. Will the world ever know peace from this white demon?
I'm projecting a racism field around this entire thread right now.
N
Are you retard? He's a garden gnome, not a moron.
Doesn't matter, both equally detrimental
One's a cannibal and the other's an idiot. There is a difference.
I
im going plant based for this lent. i will say good bye to my gains for sure, but how do i keep some? beans?
Why use a pic of meat and Hispanices for a keto diet thread? Most calories in a keto diet come from fat.
All you need to do is look at a side by side of Greger and Baker. You don't even have to look into his claims, which are all ridiculous pseudo-science. You have to be legitimately stupid (like most women) to go vegan.
>that thumbnail
Nope.
Show me on the doll where keto touched you anon
>
Pretty obvious to anyone whose actually done it and isn't in denial
I did steak and eggs diet before and lifting just sucked
like I could do alright but I couldn't push myself and wore out faster
I was definitely adapted I did it for like 8 months
carbs just give you that extra oomph though like a turbo mode
and obviously build muscles better than just fat and protein
become an omnivore chad
it's what was always meant to be
a winner
You're right. Keto is skilled because nobody lifts. Men with muscle eat all the fat and protein that ketofags eat and then they eat carbs too.
Which is why keto works non-lifters.
Yes it does. But if you're shilling it you're a fatass or a former fatass and you don't lift and you need to get off my board.
hallo? based department?
are steroids vegan?
actually yes
ive been on keto to cut, and bulking with the same keto diet plus MILK. rate my everyday brunch meal
>1 cup cabbage sauted in butter
>4 eggs
>some cheese
>mix egg yolks into 3/4 cup yoghurt
>salt pepper red pepper garlic powder dill
He doesn’t know cabbage is high in estrogen lol
>incomplete nutrition leads to health problems
Incredible, entirely unforeseen
carnivore provides all needed nutrients
yeah no shit
anyone that actually works out and has even a rudimentary understanding of cellular energy pathwatys realizes keto is retarded, its for epileptics and sedentary lardasses
Just eat >>SOME<< carbs on your resting days, eat a bit more on your exercise days.
Not rocket surgery, retards.
Most amerilards could probably cut their carb intake by 75% and substitute it by protein and fats and probably suffer no ill effects, on the contrary, they would probably benefit from eat.
Also, no grains or seed oils.
I go by what the science tells me and I only eat refined carbs and hydrogenated oils now
>bone loss
the fuck?
>yeah doc i just woke up and my bones were gone
Lol
But by bone loss they mean demineralization and a decrease in density, like in the case of osteoporosis. They don't mean that half your femur just fuckin goes missing overnight kek.
If only that were the case, my boy...
You see, when a human being enters a metabolic state of ketosis, it gives off a stench, a vile stench, although it isn't detectable by us.. I imagine you see where this is leading.
Goodbye
>they're coming for your bones
oh no
Moshi moshi moshe
that is definitely not a garden gnome for sure!
I've never been more lean and shredded than when I'm near the like, the 2 or 3 month mark on keto (and then I stop cuz I have nowhere else to go from there).
>best known for his advocacy of a whole-food, plant-based diet
Well, what are you waiting for anon? Go eat the soi and live a healthy life under the guidance of Dr Greger. I am sure his studies were very well designed and thorough.
>The color of our skin should not determine the length and quality of our lives
wow, three posts into his twitter nad he has already got diversity posts! This is definitely not a red flag at all. Good luck anon! God speed!
Problem is most people who shill keto are roided out of their fucking mind and larping that keto and not their gorilla test levels are the cause of their gains.
Keto is obviously shit for bulking but no one says you should use keto for bulking
Daily reminder:
>Correlation does not equal causation.
>Statistical 'adjustment' is literally just fudging the numbers to suit your agenda.
>Signal to noise ratio is always too high to make any scientific claims.
>Conflicts of interest and publishing bias are everywhere.
>Relative risk is irrelevant. The only thing that matter is the change in absolute risk across 100 person-years of intervention.
Nutrition science is bullshit. Greger has never practiced medicine and has the musculature and bone density of a 90-year-old woman.