kettlebells Posted on April 20, 2023 by Anonymous why is this exclusively shilled by DYELs trying to reinvent lifting?
because they're trying to avoid using the correct equipment because they can't afford it or a gym membership.
they're more expensive by weight than adjustable dumbbells
i have those already. i mostly only use them for curls
why don't you just bench press with them?
no bench, like i said i do deficit pushups with kbs in a backpack. i just did it yesterday and my chest is sore as shit
Dumbbell floor press is safer.
Fucking how does that even happen
By being a weak boned zoomer
They're too heavy for him and he's holding them too far away from his torso.
the angle of the video doesn't really show you that well but he's rolling back like a retard, you dont roll back like that with weight in your hand. i want to say its instinctual but i guess hes retarded
he's trying to lift something incompatible with his strength
he does not have the torso strength to lift that
im not going to the gym, and i cant set up a home gym with barbells yet so kbs are good enough. really the only thing you cant do well with then are horizontal pressed but i just put kbs in a backpack and do deficit pushups
>No high windmill
*Sad kettlebell noises*
>seething so hard after getting utterly btfo in the other thread that he made his own
you're so petty and pathetic that it is amusing to watch kek
if you're referring to
that's not me, but as far as I can see he posted body and you didn't
>i-it is n-not me, i s-s-swear!
it's not me, why would I lie? his body looks good, and most likely better than everyone else in that DYEL general since nobody else posted body
Ahahaha, back to whacking off at /cbt/ with you, before a OHPed kettlebell hits you on the head
Oh shit you are that gay, he begged for pictures all thread and had zero idea how kettlebells are even used.
You are a homosexual gay and no one will give you pictures for your gay folder.
Not ONE single lift of his counts. Not one....
He's doing hard style, obviously, can't you see?
big, lean, and aesthetic
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Because they have to sell kettlebells
I train kettlebells all the time and recommend them here. I think it's the best budget option along with a pull up and dip tower. I use barbells too.
Fucking absolute unit.
the anti kb schizo completely ignored this post because it utterly destroys his narrative
pretty much my goal physique right here
do you train back with the kettlebells too?
How do I achieve Heracles' back mode ?
I do deadlifts every week, one day light for speed reps in a westside barbell style for 10x2, and once a month for heavy singles. I do pull ups every morning I can. Rows are done 2-4 days per week in the gym, usually with a cable or machine. I do heavy kettlebells swings in the mornings before work, I have a 48kg and I prefer 1 hand swings but if I'm fatigued I do 2 hands. If the weather is nice I'll do farmers walks or natural stone lifting.
why are you afraid of equipment
I once heard the story of an ancient man who trained by lifting big rocks. He would do nothing special, just lift the rock, put it down, toss it around, carry it on his back, etc. He did that every day. And if the rock broke, he would just find another, slightly bigger rock, and keep going. After years of doing so, he ended up becoming so strong that no man could defeat him in battle.
You know why he became so strong? Because he actually lifted the fucking rock instead of arguing all day about what shape the rock should have.
I lifted my rock yesterday, today is my day off to shitpost
I need a good rock to lift
>heard a story
Wow dude I read this story about a guy who added weights to his clothes so that he would constantly be overloading his muscles to get stronger. It's called Dragonball Z.
So go do that then.
I'm just saying, I've seen all types of injuries with barbells and dumbbells but haven't seen any videos of injuries with kettlebells.
because they use baby weight and do cardio
im sure there is videos of crossfit people hurting themselves with kettlebells. they seemingly find a way to hurt themselves doing anything. should be called pain olympics
it's a solid piece of metal with the tendency to either fly away from you (when ballistic) or drop straight down (when grinding). it's just super easy to dodge.
the only kb exercise i can think of that can really fuck you up if you dont do it right are snatches because you're throwing it above your head, but most people aren't doing kb snatches super heavy because its too hard anyway.
i guess tgu can be dangerous too
I seem to recall some educated guesses that the reason Donnie Thompson PRed his pl total when he started usinbg kbs is that kb work kept him busy but the weights weren't heavy enough for him to hurt himself. Food for thought.
>he hits his head with the kettlebell
There's always this loud faction of skinnyfat boomers trying to larp as "combat tactical warrior fitness", hence why we call them weekend warriors. You know that barefoot walking shit came from them too? They thought walking barefoot makes you better at killing. I'm not exaggerating, they always talk about "tactical" shit and warriors, which means killing. Humping the air for a minute is not combat.
Why does a weight upset you, on IST of all places?
kek, that shit is older than your country
Jfc it's just oddly shaped weight. Get over it. I understand there are kettlebell cultist who are pain in the ass to be around even on the internet but for someone like me it's just a portable home gym equipment. I don't have space for power rack and a barbell and plates at home so it's the best solution. Also I bought five kettlebells for less money than a single bar costs so there's that.
I have a few. Decent for HIIT/HIC conditioning.
My go-to HIC kb workout.
10 swings @60lbs
60 sec rest
repeat until fuckered.
Did anon read the Tactical Barbell books?
gayest marketing I've ever seen (that wasn't ironic) but some pretty decent advice
based t handle.enjoyer
I have done nothing but three sets of 30 kettlebell swings (32kgs) 5 times a week with the occasional MMA/BJJ session thrown in for about 2 years now and I look like this. My diet is dogshit and I could absolutely benefit from a wider variety of exercise but all things considered I think kettlebells are okay if you don't have the goal of getting shredded and maxing out your whole body.
Minimal effort, low gains but I'm only a little fat so who cares?
thanks for proving my point
stop bumping your garbage thread and let it die just like the other one, pathetic samefag
take the L and accept you've been btfo already
Fucking kek I hope this is bait or I am throwing my KBs in the trash
training with heavy kettlebells and high rep calisthenics will make you ripped and strong
If your goal is functional strength rather than hypertrophy, then kettlebells are a cheap one size fits all solution
it’s good for something like HIIT cardio or if you use a heavy kb then for power. Not really a bodybuilding thing
What I like about the kettlebells is the thicker handle, and the way the weight is situated on the arm, say doing overhead presses, if you hold if in that bottom front rack position, your bicep is always in an isometric contraction under load. Whereas with a dumbbell, the same motion isn’t really practical or used. So the forearms and biceps by default get a random stimulus little bit there purely through pressing motions, and it seems to be more conducive to hypertrophy in the more “male” areas than dumbbells. Seems to lead to more trap, forearm, bi, and lat size and heft than any other real implement, which is why you see them utilized more so in things that require that sort of manual labor style strength? They’re fun to use, can be inverted and used for bottoms up presses, held from the bell itself like a cannonball, pressed from the flat bottom. Farmers carry’s, etc. Get a towel on a pull up bar and do those as an accessory movement, and you’ve got a nice body. Good thing as well is doing them outside at your own place, versus an artificially lit gym with shitty dumbbells
Protip: Buy one of these and do heavy swings
As heavy as you can go for 10 reps
I may be retarded but how the fuck do plates fit on it
You are in fact retarded
I have this one and it's round. One that's designed for standard oly plates like this is ideal.
>is a complete home training implement in your path
kettlebels for some reason are fucking expensive compared to the average dumbell.
buy from argentina, I'm telling you guys
even with international shipping, you're paying the price of a bottle of water
they used to be cheaper. everyone bought a ton of gym stuff during covid and kettlebells were like the only thing you could get for cheap
i just bought a 50lbs kb for like 95 on amazon and a kettlebell king 55lbs for 125 with a deal
>everyone bought a ton of gym stuff during covid
And now they're trying to sell it all at peak-covid prices. Still hard to find anything at less than $4 a pound where I'm at
all my kettlebells are the cheap yes4all black ones and i have a couple of the blue vinyl ones on amazon. theyre perfectly fine
Thing to watch out for with the vinyl ones is when you get to 16kg plus, they tend to get impractically massive - I once went for a cheap deal on a couple that turned out to be literally too wide to do swings with. The best cheap kettlebells I've seen are the Amazon basic ones, but I'm happy to spend a little more for decent competition style bells - they'll last longer than I will
Like the others said I think it's cuz during lockdown a lot of people tried to look for some small things they could buy to stay in shape, KBs are one of those things that often get marketed as something you can do a lot with for not a lot of money (at the time) so people I assume jumped on the bandwagon
I'm a twink (175cm, 65kg) and I maintain my twink physique with kettlebells and cardio. Fatties seething.
Where did the russianball touch you? It's ok, this is a safe space.
It touched me in the palm of my hands while I was doing kettlebell swings. It didn't hurt, it just wasted a bunch of my time that could have been better spent actually lifting.
If you picked up a kettlebell to swing it 200 times thinking to yourself, "I'm doing this specifically as an alternative to lifting, and my goals are nothing other than strength," then you're just retarded for multiple overlapping reasons
lemme try and play devil's advocate.
let's hypothetically say a niche thing dropped and was objectively great.
how likely is it that, out of the gate, it would be promoted by some dude with like a 1 in 10,000 physique?
would you believe barbells were good if the only guy promoting them was mark rippetoe?
kettlebells could be objectively better than free weights but so few people use them right now that there just isn't the numbers to show you a lot of mass monsters using them.
if you had to promote barbells based on averaging out barbell users it would be a skinnyfat guy that was your poster boy.
i bet the guys who made reasonable gains on kettlebells have made more gains on kettlebells than they would on free weights because kettlebells are the regime they will actually use and stick to.
I’m a twunk and I only use kettlebells and go hiking
Kettlebells are for cardio/conditioning and high rep explosive movements
They literally are not meant to cause hypertrophy
Correct usage for them is shit like supersetting heavy swings with shadowboxing as a fighter, clean and press, etc. They work well for rows though
> They work well for rows though
>and floor press
>all within the 6-20 hypertrophy range
>yet not good for hypertrophy
i have a set of kettlebells 5-55, 1 of each. is it stupid to do double kettlebell front squats with like say a 45 and a 40? its asymmetric but only 5lbs. is there anything weird that would happen long term if i kept doing this
Just switch hand every set, it just works your obliques a bit more
single-sided kb front squats will produce some very interesting DOMS if you've never tried them before, I like
throw it for distance and do a lot of bodyweight stuff
I'm not making a joke about throwing it away, I genuinely think you'll get more power output and a better strength training effect from throwing it than basically anything else
maybe some really long farmers carries too
I guess he'll just have to wipe his tears away with the Olympic medal
consider building a big sandbag
or just finding a big rock
man I should get a 48
I like to use them for a specific forearm exercise where I am rotating my fist.
Need a good program to not be a compkete weakling with only a 10kg kettlebell
just do insane volume, all one-handed. probably does fucking nothing, though. why do you have a 10kg in the first place?
neither, just watch mark wildman videos or something like that
Saw that Pavel has yoo main kettlebell books.
Simple & Sinister 2nd Ed. & Enter The Kettlebell!
My kb is only 10kg and i heard it's not heavy enough to do the full program.
S&S if its a supplement to other non kettlebell workout routines.
EtK if you only intend on doing kettlebells.
I'll do the obvious answer and read both then.
It's 12kg he reccs for beginner women.
>why do you have a 10kg in the first place?
In a different small town location tempoarily, unable to online shop and a 10kg is all they had in the store. I want to work out with what I got with some sense of a program and not flunder about errarically or do retarded shit that won't give comprehensive gains while risking injury.
My current biggest issue is squat form. I was watching his EtK youtube video to try and follow but i don't seem to have that much flexibility, especially against his wall test. I can only go a regular range if I'm already holding the kettlebell. Is it just a form issue and I actually can go that low unaided or do i need to be doing some flexibility training too? I read how fundamental squats are to any ptogram so I get the necessity of being able to do tjis. The room i'm in fortunately has a full length mirror i can practice with.
Form and practice; my woman started with kettlebells this year and she couldn't squat for shit, just didn't have the mobility. Four months later she's got it sorted. Just keep working on it and keep good form a priority and it'll get there
i think beginners should start out with BSS since its great for mobility and hyperthrophy, infact fuck squats.
Pavel typically recommends a 16 -> 24 -> 32 progression. for female I think 10 might be the recommended starter one but i dont remember well
He has higher standards for where men should be than where a lot of American dyel men actually are at.
Starting with 10 and doing extra reps will work you just as hard as going straight for 16 and struggling. Don't feel bad if you're a beginner.
Yeah for like swings alone I think 10 is probably undershooting it for any guy but for a lot of other movements like getups and presses it might be the only weight some can handle with good form to start with
>Don't feel bad if you're a beginner.
Thanks bro. Got a lot of self to get over.
i get insane rear delt activation from kb overhead presses compared to both dumbbell and barbell. must be something about the center of gravity being slightly shifted and working against it.
> Muh trying to reinvent lifting.
Why are you strawmanning the opposition when you are failed olympic lifters or strongmen who can't lift properly with correct form, have to use all equipment to prevent your twink hands from slipping the weight off them.
>tfw love snatches but they make my elbow tendonitis flare like a mf