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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    because they're trying to avoid using the correct equipment because they can't afford it or a gym membership.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      im not going to the gym, and i cant set up a home gym with barbells yet so kbs are good enough. really the only thing you cant do well with then are horizontal pressed but i just put kbs in a backpack and do deficit pushups

      they're more expensive by weight than adjustable dumbbells

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i have those already. i mostly only use them for curls

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          why don't you just bench press with them?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            no bench, like i said i do deficit pushups with kbs in a backpack. i just did it yesterday and my chest is sore as shit

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            no bench, like i said i do deficit pushups with kbs in a backpack. i just did it yesterday and my chest is sore as shit

            Dumbbell floor press is safer.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >mfw

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fricking how does that even happen

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                By being a weak boned zoomer

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're too heavy for him and he's holding them too far away from his torso.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                the angle of the video doesn't really show you that well but he's rolling back like a moron, you dont roll back like that with weight in your hand. i want to say its instinctual but i guess hes moronic

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's trying to lift something incompatible with his strength
                he does not have the torso strength to lift that

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    im not going to the gym, and i cant set up a home gym with barbells yet so kbs are good enough. really the only thing you cant do well with then are horizontal pressed but i just put kbs in a backpack and do deficit pushups

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No swings
      >No snatch
      >No high windmill
      *Sad kettlebell noises*

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >seething so hard after getting utterly btfo in the other thread that he made his own
    you're so petty and pathetic that it is amusing to watch kek

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you're referring to

      [...]

      that's not me, but as far as I can see he posted body and you didn't

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i-it is n-not me, i s-s-swear!
        lol
        lmao even
        roflmao thougbeit

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's not me, why would I lie? his body looks good, and most likely better than everyone else in that DYEL general since nobody else posted body

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Post body
        Ahahaha, back to whacking off at /cbt/ with you, before a OHPed kettlebell hits you on the head

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh shit you are that homosexual, he begged for pictures all thread and had zero idea how kettlebells are even used.
        You are a homosexual homosexual and no one will give you pictures for your gay folder.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    uh oh

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roiding manlet
      >not you

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dat form
      Not ONE single lift of his counts. Not one....

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's doing hard style, obviously, can't you see?

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >barbell chads
    big, lean, and aesthetic
    >dumbbell chads
    big, lean, and aesthetic
    >ring chads
    big, lean, and aesthetic
    >machine chads
    big, lean, and aesthetic
    >kettlebellgays
    body 404 not found

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they have to sell kettlebells

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I train kettlebells all the time and recommend them here. I think it's the best budget option along with a pull up and dip tower. I use barbells too.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mirin

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking absolute unit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Daddy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      based
      the anti kb schizo completely ignored this post because it utterly destroys his narrative

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much my goal physique right here

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      do you train back with the kettlebells too?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do I achieve Heracles' back mode ?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do deadlifts every week, one day light for speed reps in a westside barbell style for 10x2, and once a month for heavy singles. I do pull ups every morning I can. Rows are done 2-4 days per week in the gym, usually with a cable or machine. I do heavy kettlebells swings in the mornings before work, I have a 48kg and I prefer 1 hand swings but if I'm fatigued I do 2 hands. If the weather is nice I'll do farmers walks or natural stone lifting.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are you afraid of equipment

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >muh barbells
    >muh dumbells
    >muh kettlebells
    I once heard the story of an ancient man who trained by lifting big rocks. He would do nothing special, just lift the rock, put it down, toss it around, carry it on his back, etc. He did that every day. And if the rock broke, he would just find another, slightly bigger rock, and keep going. After years of doing so, he ended up becoming so strong that no man could defeat him in battle.
    You know why he became so strong? Because he actually lifted the fricking rock instead of arguing all day about what shape the rock should have.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I lifted my rock yesterday, today is my day off to shitpost

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I lifted my rock yesterday, today is my day off to shitpost

      I need a good rock to lift

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >heard a story
      Wow dude I read this story about a guy who added weights to his clothes so that he would constantly be overloading his muscles to get stronger. It's called Dragonball Z.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So go do that then.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ancientchad tales

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just saying, I've seen all types of injuries with barbells and dumbbells but haven't seen any videos of injuries with kettlebells.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      because they use baby weight and do cardio

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      im sure there is videos of crossfit people hurting themselves with kettlebells. they seemingly find a way to hurt themselves doing anything. should be called pain olympics

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's a solid piece of metal with the tendency to either fly away from you (when ballistic) or drop straight down (when grinding). it's just super easy to dodge.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the only kb exercise i can think of that can really frick you up if you dont do it right are snatches because you're throwing it above your head, but most people aren't doing kb snatches super heavy because its too hard anyway.

      i guess tgu can be dangerous too

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I seem to recall some educated guesses that the reason Donnie Thompson PRed his pl total when he started usinbg kbs is that kb work kept him busy but the weights weren't heavy enough for him to hurt himself. Food for thought.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he hits his head with the kettlebell

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's always this loud faction of skinnyfat boomers trying to larp as "combat tactical warrior fitness", hence why we call them weekend warriors. You know that barefoot walking shit came from them too? They thought walking barefoot makes you better at killing. I'm not exaggerating, they always talk about "tactical" shit and warriors, which means killing. Humping the air for a minute is not combat.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does a weight upset you, on IST of all places?
    >reinvent
    kek, that shit is older than your country

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jfc it's just oddly shaped weight. Get over it. I understand there are kettlebell cultist who are pain in the ass to be around even on the internet but for someone like me it's just a portable home gym equipment. I don't have space for power rack and a barbell and plates at home so it's the best solution. Also I bought five kettlebells for less money than a single bar costs so there's that.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a few. Decent for HIIT/HIC conditioning.

    My go-to HIC kb workout.

    10 swings @60lbs
    10 burpees
    60 sec rest
    repeat until frickered.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did anon read the Tactical Barbell books?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        gayest marketing I've ever seen (that wasn't ironic) but some pretty decent advice

        https://i.imgur.com/S1FW5a5.jpg

        Protip: Buy one of these and do heavy swings
        >How heavy
        As heavy as you can go for 10 reps

        based t handle.enjoyer

        buy from argentina, I'm telling you guys
        even with international shipping, you're paying the price of a bottle of water

        link?

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have done nothing but three sets of 30 kettlebell swings (32kgs) 5 times a week with the occasional MMA/BJJ session thrown in for about 2 years now and I look like this. My diet is dogshit and I could absolutely benefit from a wider variety of exercise but all things considered I think kettlebells are okay if you don't have the goal of getting shredded and maxing out your whole body.
    Minimal effort, low gains but I'm only a little fat so who cares?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      thanks for proving my point

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking kek I hope this is bait or I am throwing my KBs in the trash

        stop bumping your garbage thread and let it die just like the other one, pathetic samegay
        take the L and accept you've been btfo already

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking kek I hope this is bait or I am throwing my KBs in the trash

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    training with heavy kettlebells and high rep calisthenics will make you ripped and strong

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If your goal is functional strength rather than hypertrophy, then kettlebells are a cheap one size fits all solution

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    it’s good for something like HIIT cardio or if you use a heavy kb then for power. Not really a bodybuilding thing

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What I like about the kettlebells is the thicker handle, and the way the weight is situated on the arm, say doing overhead presses, if you hold if in that bottom front rack position, your bicep is always in an isometric contraction under load. Whereas with a dumbbell, the same motion isn’t really practical or used. So the forearms and biceps by default get a random stimulus little bit there purely through pressing motions, and it seems to be more conducive to hypertrophy in the more “male” areas than dumbbells. Seems to lead to more trap, forearm, bi, and lat size and heft than any other real implement, which is why you see them utilized more so in things that require that sort of manual labor style strength? They’re fun to use, can be inverted and used for bottoms up presses, held from the bell itself like a cannonball, pressed from the flat bottom. Farmers carry’s, etc. Get a towel on a pull up bar and do those as an accessory movement, and you’ve got a nice body. Good thing as well is doing them outside at your own place, versus an artificially lit gym with shitty dumbbells

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Protip: Buy one of these and do heavy swings
    >How heavy
    As heavy as you can go for 10 reps

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >square tube
      I may be moronic but how the frick do plates fit on it

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are in fact moronic

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have this one and it's round. One that's designed for standard oly plates like this is ideal.
        https://www.strengthshop.co.uk/products/plate-loadable-adjustable-kettlebell-swing

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is a complete home training implement in your path
    What do?

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    kettlebels for some reason are fricking expensive compared to the average dumbell.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      buy from argentina, I'm telling you guys
      even with international shipping, you're paying the price of a bottle of water

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      they used to be cheaper. everyone bought a ton of gym stuff during covid and kettlebells were like the only thing you could get for cheap

      i just bought a 50lbs kb for like 95 on Amazon and a kettlebell king 55lbs for 125 with a deal

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone bought a ton of gym stuff during covid
        And now they're trying to sell it all at peak-covid prices. Still hard to find anything at less than $4 a pound where I'm at

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          all my kettlebells are the cheap yes4all black ones and i have a couple of the blue vinyl ones on amazon. theyre perfectly fine

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thing to watch out for with the vinyl ones is when you get to 16kg plus, they tend to get impractically massive - I once went for a cheap deal on a couple that turned out to be literally too wide to do swings with. The best cheap kettlebells I've seen are the Amazon basic ones, but I'm happy to spend a little more for decent competition style bells - they'll last longer than I will

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like the others said I think it's cuz during lockdown a lot of people tried to look for some small things they could buy to stay in shape, KBs are one of those things that often get marketed as something you can do a lot with for not a lot of money (at the time) so people I assume jumped on the bandwagon

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a twink (175cm, 65kg) and I maintain my twink physique with kettlebells and cardio. Fatties seething.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where did the russianball touch you? It's ok, this is a safe space.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It touched me in the palm of my hands while I was doing kettlebell swings. It didn't hurt, it just wasted a bunch of my time that could have been better spent actually lifting.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you picked up a kettlebell to swing it 200 times thinking to yourself, "I'm doing this specifically as an alternative to lifting, and my goals are nothing other than strength," then you're just moronic for multiple overlapping reasons

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    lemme try and play devil's advocate.
    let's hypothetically say a niche thing dropped and was objectively great.
    how likely is it that, out of the gate, it would be promoted by some dude with like a 1 in 10,000 physique?
    would you believe barbells were good if the only guy promoting them was mark rippetoe?
    kettlebells could be objectively better than free weights but so few people use them right now that there just isn't the numbers to show you a lot of mass monsters using them.
    if you had to promote barbells based on averaging out barbell users it would be a skinnyfat guy that was your poster boy.
    i bet the guys who made reasonable gains on kettlebells have made more gains on kettlebells than they would on free weights because kettlebells are the regime they will actually use and stick to.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m a twunk and I only use kettlebells and go hiking

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kettlebells are for cardio/conditioning and high rep explosive movements
    They literally are not meant to cause hypertrophy
    Correct usage for them is shit like supersetting heavy swings with shadowboxing as a fighter, clean and press, etc. They work well for rows though

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      > They work well for rows though
      >and ohp
      >and floor press
      >and squats
      >and curls
      >all within the 6-20 hypertrophy range
      >yet not good for hypertrophy

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i have a set of kettlebells 5-55, 1 of each. is it stupid to do double kettlebell front squats with like say a 45 and a 40? its asymmetric but only 5lbs. is there anything weird that would happen long term if i kept doing this

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just switch hand every set, it just works your obliques a bit more

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        single-sided kb front squats will produce some very interesting DOMS if you've never tried them before, I like

        Need a good program to not be a compkete weakling with only a 10kg kettlebell

        throw it for distance and do a lot of bodyweight stuff
        I'm not making a joke about throwing it away, I genuinely think you'll get more power output and a better strength training effect from throwing it than basically anything else
        maybe some really long farmers carries too

        >dat form
        Not ONE single lift of his counts. Not one....

        I guess he'll just have to wipe his tears away with the Olympic medal

        I'll do the obvious answer and read both then.
        [...]
        It's 12kg he reccs for beginner women.
        [...]
        >why do you have a 10kg in the first place?
        In a different small town location tempoarily, unable to online shop and a 10kg is all they had in the store. I want to work out with what I got with some sense of a program and not flunder about errarically or do moronic shit that won't give comprehensive gains while risking injury.

        consider building a big sandbag
        or just finding a big rock
        grugfit

        I do deadlifts every week, one day light for speed reps in a westside barbell style for 10x2, and once a month for heavy singles. I do pull ups every morning I can. Rows are done 2-4 days per week in the gym, usually with a cable or machine. I do heavy kettlebells swings in the mornings before work, I have a 48kg and I prefer 1 hand swings but if I'm fatigued I do 2 hands. If the weather is nice I'll do farmers walks or natural stone lifting.

        man I should get a 48

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like to use them for a specific forearm exercise where I am rotating my fist.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Need a good program to not be a compkete weakling with only a 10kg kettlebell

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      just do insane volume, all one-handed. probably does fricking nothing, though. why do you have a 10kg in the first place?

      Saw that Pavel has yoo main kettlebell books.
      Simple & Sinister 2nd Ed. & Enter The Kettlebell!
      Which one?
      My kb is only 10kg and i heard it's not heavy enough to do the full program.

      neither, just watch mark wildman videos or something like that

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Saw that Pavel has yoo main kettlebell books.
    Simple & Sinister 2nd Ed. & Enter The Kettlebell!
    Which one?
    My kb is only 10kg and i heard it's not heavy enough to do the full program.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      S&S if its a supplement to other non kettlebell workout routines.

      EtK if you only intend on doing kettlebells.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'll do the obvious answer and read both then.

        Pavel typically recommends a 16 -> 24 -> 32 progression. for female I think 10 might be the recommended starter one but i dont remember well

        It's 12kg he reccs for beginner women.

        just do insane volume, all one-handed. probably does fricking nothing, though. why do you have a 10kg in the first place?
        [...]
        neither, just watch mark wildman videos or something like that

        >why do you have a 10kg in the first place?
        In a different small town location tempoarily, unable to online shop and a 10kg is all they had in the store. I want to work out with what I got with some sense of a program and not flunder about errarically or do moronic shit that won't give comprehensive gains while risking injury.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          My current biggest issue is squat form. I was watching his EtK youtube video to try and follow but i don't seem to have that much flexibility, especially against his wall test. I can only go a regular range if I'm already holding the kettlebell. Is it just a form issue and I actually can go that low unaided or do i need to be doing some flexibility training too? I read how fundamental squats are to any ptogram so I get the necessity of being able to do tjis. The room i'm in fortunately has a full length mirror i can practice with.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Form and practice; my woman started with kettlebells this year and she couldn't squat for shit, just didn't have the mobility. Four months later she's got it sorted. Just keep working on it and keep good form a priority and it'll get there

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            i think beginners should start out with BSS since its great for mobility and hyperthrophy, infact frick squats.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pavel typically recommends a 16 -> 24 -> 32 progression. for female I think 10 might be the recommended starter one but i dont remember well

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He has higher standards for where men should be than where a lot of American dyel men actually are at.

        Starting with 10 and doing extra reps will work you just as hard as going straight for 16 and struggling. Don't feel bad if you're a beginner.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah for like swings alone I think 10 is probably undershooting it for any guy but for a lot of other movements like getups and presses it might be the only weight some can handle with good form to start with

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't feel bad if you're a beginner.
          Thanks bro. Got a lot of self to get over.

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i get insane rear delt activation from kb overhead presses compared to both dumbbell and barbell. must be something about the center of gravity being slightly shifted and working against it.

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Muh trying to reinvent lifting.

    Why are you strawmanning the opposition when you are failed olympic lifters or strongmen who can't lift properly with correct form, have to use all equipment to prevent your twink hands from slipping the weight off them.

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw love snatches but they make my elbow tendonitis flare like a mf

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