*kills your gains*

*kills your gains*

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Really, really, really good thread

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    makes me look cool tho so its worth

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No it doesn't

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i smoke because i want to shorten my life and also because its effay

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You just copied the post from 4chan, you attention seeking mutt

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >15% higher total and 13% higher free testosterone levels compared with men who never smoked.

    i smoke for gains
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17163954/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      corellation does not equal causation

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        idgaf a red a day makes gains stay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          a red a day makes the bitches go away cuz u a stank ass mf

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i stink but not because i smoke

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've found women are pretty indifferent to it, tbh.
            The women who say they don't like/wouldn't date smokers are mostly saying it to see how beta that particular smoker is - if he quits for that woman, she knows she has him by the balls.
            Quit for yourself. Never do anything because of what a woman said.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >if he quits for that woman, she knows she has him by the balls.
              Very wise words anon. The most I do is cut back or atleast not smoke when I'm around her family, but quit entirely and she'll be the one calling the shots for the whole relationship.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            my grandma's house i used to visit as a kid always reeked of smoke because she smoked so much in her house so the smell of cigarette smoke is nostalgic to me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            okay honestly reds do kind of smell like shit IMO, at least compared to slightly more premium brands

            I've found women are pretty indifferent to it, tbh.
            The women who say they don't like/wouldn't date smokers are mostly saying it to see how beta that particular smoker is - if he quits for that woman, she knows she has him by the balls.
            Quit for yourself. Never do anything because of what a woman said.

            I've noticed this as well. I can reek of smoke after a night out and girls don't complain about it. I don't know why.

            Wow, congratulations on using your addiction to cigarettes as a motivation tool for your lack of desire to lift weights. How innovative of you to use a harmful habit as a way to improve your health. I mean, why bother actually trying to make a healthy change in your life when you can just use your addiction to force yourself into a workout? Keep up the brilliant work, genius.

            read like 5 words of your smarmy reddit post before I decided to call you a fag. he's improving his situation. kys

            New to IST here.
            I'm fairly active and go rock climbing 3 times a week. But I can't seem to bring myself to go and actually lift weights. I smoke almost a pack a day and started using my cigarettes as a motivation tool. Started last week with 10 pushups per cigarette. This week it's 15, and next week will be 20.
            Not only has it helped me get the ball rolling but it's also helping me cut back on my smoking too. If I were to smoke 2 cigarettes on my way home from work I'd either have to bang out 30 before I drive or just not smoke instead. Using my addiction to my advantage has been oddly successful so far

            nice, keep it up bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I smoke spirits. They’re pretty good. Additive free and the smell is way different than a reds

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        another one of your catchphrases

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Weird to say for someone with trips and 9's
        Of course the devil wishes me to not be based and have gains

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        WHAT DOES THIS SHIT MEAN I SEE YOU REDDITFAGS SPOUT IT EVERYWHERE STOP TRYING TO BE PSEUDO INTELLECTUALS

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it means that correlation does not equal causation. Just because there is a CORRELATION between men who smoke cigarettes and them having higher testosterone levels, it does not mean that the cigarettes are what's CAUSING the increases testosterone.

          Another way to look at it is that men who smoke cigarettes are have a baseline higher testosterone to begin with, and it's these higher baseline testosterone levels that lead these men to smoke cigarettes.
          >Higher testosterone = MIGHT increase risk taking behaviour

          Higher risk taking behaviour may cause people to smoke cigarettes. Hereby implying gigachads smoke, losers don't. The higher testosterone that smokers has is not because of the cigarettes, but because of the already high testosterone levels in these men

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Just because A and B are true at the same time doesn't mean one depends on the other
          >People smoke
          >These people have higher testosterone
          >This is true, but whether they have higher testosterone from smoking, or they smoke as an effect of having high testosterone, are irrelevant conclusions to draw, for what it's worth neither is proven to be true.
          It's a simple logical thing anyone can grasp but redditors in particular feel gifted to

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wait is that implying people with high T gravitate towards smoking?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have a source on that?

        Source?

        A source. I need a source.

        Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

        No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

        You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

        Do you have a degree in that field?

        A college degree? In that field?

        Then your arguments are invalid.

        No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

        Correlation does not equal causation.

        CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

        You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

        Nope, still haven't.

        I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Reminder that it is easier to buy out a scientist than to buy out a politician, but either have an inherent chance of blowing the whistle if they are weak enough to take a bribe in the first place
          >Glizzy not related

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh? So smoking does not cause cancer then?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I roid for gains
      My test is 1000% higher than yours and I'll outlive you too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >roid
        >outlive
        Sure

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      corellation does not equal causation

      Maybe men that smoke are just higher test on average brainlets

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't noticed any loss in gains, op

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cigarettes are based since they lead to an early death

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The people that are concerned about this and that killing your gains are unironically the people that give up a month or two in and make no gains.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    New to IST here.
    I'm fairly active and go rock climbing 3 times a week. But I can't seem to bring myself to go and actually lift weights. I smoke almost a pack a day and started using my cigarettes as a motivation tool. Started last week with 10 pushups per cigarette. This week it's 15, and next week will be 20.
    Not only has it helped me get the ball rolling but it's also helping me cut back on my smoking too. If I were to smoke 2 cigarettes on my way home from work I'd either have to bang out 30 before I drive or just not smoke instead. Using my addiction to my advantage has been oddly successful so far

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wow, congratulations on using your addiction to cigarettes as a motivation tool for your lack of desire to lift weights. How innovative of you to use a harmful habit as a way to improve your health. I mean, why bother actually trying to make a healthy change in your life when you can just use your addiction to force yourself into a workout? Keep up the brilliant work, genius.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not perfect but I gotta start somewhere. I've tried going balls to the wall before and I never keep consistency. So I figure starting small and building one habit on the back of another is reasonable, at least while I'm still at the starting point

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, I'm so glad you've figured out a way to justify your lack of consistency and commitment to actually making a change in your life. Starting small and building on one habit is such a novel idea, I'm sure no one has ever thought of it before. Keep patting yourself on the back for your groundbreaking approach to self-improvement. You're a real trailblazer.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            get his ass

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Damn homie Butthurt much?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            woman

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dubs and this demoralizing fag dies

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              roll

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Rollin!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good, tell him how it is, too many gays that get satisfied with just the tip in

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day dyel

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, I'm so glad you've figured out a way to justify your lack of consistency and commitment to actually making a change in your life. Starting small and building on one habit is such a novel idea, I'm sure no one has ever thought of it before. Keep patting yourself on the back for your groundbreaking approach to self-improvement. You're a real trailblazer.

        Fuck this guy and his bucket of crabs mentality.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh wow, I had no idea that reacting in a real way was such a terrible thing. I mean, who needs authenticity and honesty when we can just pamper men all day long? That's clearly the way to go. Thanks for the valuable lesson on how to properly behave.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's a difference between pampering someone and just being dick. The guy already said he's new to this and is still in the beginning of even starting. So why do you feel the need to shit on him for even trying? You expect him to run a marathon and bench 3 pl8s off the bat? Fuck off with that shit

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh I'm so sorry, I didn't realize I was expected to give a standing ovation to someone just for trying. My bad, I'll make sure to shower them with praise and praise next time. And hey, maybe they'll even be able to bench 3 pl8s off the bat with enough encouragement and pampering. Thanks for setting me straight.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                See? now that's the spirit!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who hurt you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're an ass. Nobody's expecting you to shower him with compliments. That doesn't mean you should just reply to him like a sarcastic 50 year old menopausal childless woman.

                Have you considered not replying at all? Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize my opinion was so insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Please forgive me for daring to express myself like a human being. And thank you for reminding me to act like a passive, mute, and unassuming little robot from now on. I will certainly take your sage advice and refrain from sharing my thoughts in the future. After all, who needs independent thought and personality when you can just blend in with the mindless masses? Thanks for the wake-up call.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The world would be better of without your thoughts. Or you for that matter, kys you sad bitter incel.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, thank you for your thoughtful and compassionate comment. I'm so grateful for your kind words and concern for the world. I will definitely consider taking my own life, just as soon as I finish basking in the glow of your scintillating intelligence and charm. In the meantime, please continue to spread love and positivity with your sparkling wit and razor-sharp insight. Keep shining, you shining star.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm starting to think you're just a decent but not great troll

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based, losers will disagree lol, just quit its not that hard if i could quit cocaine easily you can stop cigs easily. How ? Just dont fucking smoke just dont put cigarettes in your mouth you moron

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think this is an okay idea, if it weens you off cigs and gets you moving its kind of a 2 birds with 1 stone deal. Not ideal but better than smoking more and moving less. Keep it up and cut the cigs out to as infrequently as possible.

      Wow, congratulations on using your addiction to cigarettes as a motivation tool for your lack of desire to lift weights. How innovative of you to use a harmful habit as a way to improve your health. I mean, why bother actually trying to make a healthy change in your life when you can just use your addiction to force yourself into a workout? Keep up the brilliant work, genius.

      super helpful, fag

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Smoker here. Maybe 1 a day if I don't drink. I've done the same thing with amazing results. 20 push-ups per smoke, I cut back to half and was doing 200 a day. This was years ago before I had kids, now I don't smoke much, but back then fuck, it kept me strong and lean.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah even at 10 per smoke I'm pushing 150 to 200 a day. Wich is 150 to 200 more than I would be doing otherwise.im not currently ready to stop smoking yet but I can at least improve other aspects of my life. One day sure, but for right now it's one thing at a time

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >doesn't kill your gains but makes you look like a giant gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It used to be cigs after sex now it's vape after masturbation

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        vape after sissygasming
        verification not required

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ayo hold up

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cigs after sex is preferable to the rotten fish pussy stench

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This garbage makes me itchy, i might be getting metal poisoning from it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Breathe air

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    good to see IST at least understands cigarettes are good for you. too much misinfo on this board anymore.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How can it be bad when i feel so good doing it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        maybe you feel something, while you are smoking but its not even more then imagination.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else trying to quit?

    I had a really bad panic attack a month ago where I thought I was having a heart attack (not fat but I drink and smoke a lot) and it’s kinda opened up my eyes that heart disease is not how I want to go anytime soon. I quit drinking and am a month sober, and wanna give up the cigs but it’s a hard habit when you’ve been doing it for five years. I’m determined though, this is the first time I’ve actually been making a plan to stop.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      read the bible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it started fucking up my bloods. I don't want to get off nicotine entirely, but I also don't want to be addicted to the sticks anymore.

      I found "Allen Carr's Illustrated Easy Way to Stop Smoking" entertaining and cheap. Just for perspective.

      Quitting booze was easy for me personally after the first few weeks. Fucking cigs have been extremely hard. Gum doesn't work, anything. I just try to lift through the cravings when I can, and when I can't I let them pass. Gets better after week 3, but then you're dealing with the psychological addiction components which don't suddenly go away when your receptors unfuck themselves.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've gotten clean off crack and heroin cold turkey after years of use. Still can't for the life of me kick smoking.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Social acceptability makes things much harder to quit, which I think is why Cannabis is being legalized.
          That shit is tough to kick because it's a mood-stabilizer, sleep aid, and boredom cure for lots of people. If you've smoked to dependency, that first week of quitting is absolute hell.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            For real, not like I could melt a rock on the patio of my local bar. And the problem I faced was I leaned into cigarettes to help get off the hard stuff. The habitual nature of if is definitely hard to overcome, waking up, driving, work breaks, after meals, busting a nut, the list could go on forever!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes
      Bought a disposable vape so I don't smell like shit all the time and once it's empty I'm done, just gonna stay at home suffering a couple of days since it should run out by friday

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    *Kills you're*

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I smoke maybe once or twice a month but honestly every single time I do I feel much better in the gym or on my runs the next few days, both energy-wise and strength-wise
    starting to think cigs are actually good for you and everything else is propaganda

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      when did you start smoking

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        around five years ago

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    garden gnomes hate smoking

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >smoke
    >drink
    >weed
    >coke
    >lift
    >more gains than you

    Hard to accept FACTS
    SAD!!!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is something to this. I don't normally drink but during the holiday seasons when I have some beers with my family I always feel stronger and look better. Maybe Arnold was right about beer.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm smoke free for more than a year now. It was one of the hardest battle I had. It took me two years.
    If you smoke casual stop immediately. If you still want the nicotine just do snus.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      brilliant thread
      its ok, just move cancer from one location to the other
      fucking retards in this thread deserve the final death blow on their vestigial consciences

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I smoke casually and am not addicted at all
      Think I might be then I get a canker sore or a nasty coughing fit and lose the cravings entirely and stop smoking once or twice a day

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what if i snus and smoke, ngmi?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't snuses equally bad? Yeah, there is no smole, but snuses contain a lot of nicotine

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i smoked daily and chainsmoked (adhd retard) from 13 till 20, and now i just go through phases where i smoke for a couple weeks, then vape for a couple months and switch like that

    its probably healthier than just chainsmoking all the time and i still get to enjoy the pleasures of life

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vaping is the most disgusting thing ever. Everyone that vapes is a hopeless incel.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what if you smoke tobacco and not cigarretes? What are the hazards? Way fewer chemicals.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I did that, my lungs still felt like trash, still got cravings, though not nearly as bad, making quitting easier.
      Main problem it's that the addiction it's mainly psycological, smoking really feels like a cathartic exercise, can't find a good replacement yet.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I live exclusively on pizza, McDonalds and ice cream
    I spend money on hookers and DOGE
    I smoke 20 cigarettes a day

    I look and feel great

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post body

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No you don't

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine smoking in 2022

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I stop, masturbation too for that matter.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i cycle between chaw, dip, the occasional once/twice weekly cigarette. vaping and nicotine pouches/snus.

    sometimes i just dont do anything for a few weeks to give my body a break. i literally just do it for the enjoyment ive broken my psyche of the shackles of addiction long ago. barely get minor agitation for like a day if i quit nicotine, and my appetite goes through the roof for a day or two. then im just normal again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      forgot to post muh pic
      >hee haw yee haw

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I work a 60 hour week and there’s nothing more enjoyable than going down to the pub on Friday evening with my workmates and smashing back some beers to unwind. And do you know what goes so well with alcohol? Smokes.
    God I love that euphoric first cigarette head rush on a Friday evening after getting tipsy. It’s a great feeling.

    Other than that, I don’t smoke. Just a few smokes and beers on a Friday evening.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuckin normie loser, fartin' and belchin' and the pub at 20 and you'll be fatin' and belchin at the pub at 60.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How exactly the fuck would a cigarette kill your gains you fucking gay
    Post body

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bf% estimate?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know chad, but theoretically it can decrease blood flow, caused by the vasoconstriction from nicotine.
      >Less blood to the muscle = less nutrients for the muscle to recover

      HOWEVER, studies show that nicotine decreases coronary blood volume, and increases muscular blood volume.
      >Less blood for your heart(beats faster), more in the muscles.

      So it's hard to say what it actually does, there are probably some studies on that

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >then boosts your test to bring them back

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    stopped smoking in sep22 after 3 month of wasting my money for tobacco, its acctualy a meme

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Smoking is a vasoconstrictor, meaning it reduces the amount of blood able to be carried to the capillaries, including the muscles. If you smoke within 1 hour of exercise, you are absolutely killing your gains.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Getting off cocaine and other hard drugs was a walk in the park compared to smoking

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Das rite. I had no problem quitting the herbal garden gnome.
      I am smoke free for more than a year and I still wanna light up a fag.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cigarettes really killed my appetite, since nicotine is a stimulant of sort. So yes, it literally kills your gains.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it was xanax that fucked me over, currently tapering with valium and repairing my brain with NAC, fish oil and a good diet in general, man just thinking about all the retarded shit I did on it (esp mixed with alcohol) such as gambling 10k on a random horse and going into debt, threatening to kill my ex best friend, assaulting my dad, those days where I was forced to withdraw and spent all day frozen in bed with extreme anxiety cause some fag sold me chalk and then buying more fake xanax from the same fag with my whole welfare check, the seizures etc, never want to go back to that life

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The patrician choice

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My dad smoked 2 packs a day, but benched 345 for 3 reps...

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Smoking a pack and still being able to out lift and out run any dyels is a great mind fuck. When fatties ask you what you do and you just say good genetics

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