Don't ask me how I rationalize this, I just believe it
I don't know why
After you die you basically are in a holodeck or a universe with console commands, creative mode
THIS.
It has been 4 years and my vision is still fricked. >pic related.
From one single dose.
The depersonalization and panic attacks went away after 6 months.
I started using phenibut a couple times a week on top of a daily kratom habit to be more sociable at a retail job. Then I started taking it too often and forced myself to stop because phenibut withdrawal sounds bad
I bought some of this shit on a whim and it never really seemed to ever really do very much. But I left a bag of it at my parents place when I moved out. In typical fashion they pretty much cleared my old room out and made it into a computer room a fricking week after I leave and just throw a bunch of my shit out. But yea its now impossible to even get the stuff anymore.
>take Kratom for chronic pain in knee >get addicted, start getting b***hy when I don't have it >go cold turkey >get extremely anxious for a week, b***hy for 2 weeks >quit cold turkey
suck it up OP, stop being a homosexual
Probably, most people have absolutely no self control. I barely even take it once a week, maybe every few weeks if I have some pain, and never over 3 grams. I also take phenibut about once a week to relax, barely ever over a gram, and it honestly baffles me how people could get addicted to it. Yeah it feels good in higher doses, but that comes with more side effects that frick you up and make you feel shitty afterwards, and the good effects diminish if you start taking a lot of it all the time. I also take small doses of modafinil every so often as a subtle stimulant. You honestly get so much more benefit from drugs when you have some self control and just use them as performance and mood enhancement.
Its literally the only thing in life that gives me a tangible sense of joy and pleasure.
Which leads me to taking it 3-4 times a day, which in return raises my dopamine baseline so that I'm dead without it, and also nukes my testosterone and has completely stripped me of my virility, libido, muscle and drive.
If I stop taking it, I just become a numb zombie, unable to feel any sense of happiness.
Ive quit a couple different times, for weeks and months at a time.
I was a numb shell of a man both times. There was a craving for tangible relief that lingered 24/7, driving me into madness until I submitted.
Yet kratom pretty much takes my soul. I become smaller, my voice loses its deep tone, I stay inside and become a shut in, my complexion worsens, my butthole gets blown out. I become.. whatever the frick I am now.
This is truly my curse. Meant to break my soul once and for all.
Yep I've also quit for a couple months and the entire time I was drinking a 750 of vodka and cheap beer every day. I know what you mean about craving tangible relief. I was tired, and bored, and became extremely reckless because I just felt so shitty. I almost got a DUI after hitting a trashcan on the wrong side of the road and blowing over the limit. Luckily I had been on a ride along with the cop before so he probably helped me only get community service and nothing on my record. But then my parents made me go to this day program for mentally ill people and that's when I started taking kratom again since I'm a social moron and need to be on something to talk to people. Now I'm just a kratom addicted neet that stayed in my room during Christmas and New Year's
because both kratom and phenibut are legal mostly in usa only, for some reason.
i was addicted to poppy opium real bad, but i kicked that cold turkey. 2 months of withdrawals.
For me, it was trenbolone. It didn’t actually ruin my life, but I basically lost a really good girl, and it wasn’t tren, it was just a catalyst to make me unable to control my inner demons. Ultimately, if I can learn my lesson after this last frick up, I’ll come out if the other side a better man, but I fear I’ll just get lost in the cycle and keep repeating the same thing.
I hate how puritanical this board has become. Why can't you homosexuals do things in moderation? Why are you either always drunk/high or straight-edge sober? How weak is your psyche if you can't enjoy yourself occasionally, without letting it control your life? Why do you pretend that you're not a weak homosexual, and act like everyone will become uncontrollably addicted to any substance? You homosexuals are no better than the politician's wives who got parental advisory stickers put on music.
>Why are you either always drunk/high or straight-edge sober?
those people are the most vocal but i think most people are just normal and can occasionally indulge in shit without becoming obsessed/anti-obsessed with it so they dont need to talk about it constnatly
i come here to give and receive good advice not for enabling
drugs are bad yes they can be fun and positive in moderation but i don't need telling >do the fun thing! it's fun!
i need to be told i'm a homosexual gaylord and i need to get my shit together
because the rest of the world does just tell you it's ok to be a pot smoking queer selling pics of your butthole to compensate for your miserable income working as a fry cook
but it's not
For me it was phenibut
our lives don't matter in the grand scheme of things. it's all meaningless. there's no afterlife. relax and enjoy the ride
Get behind me satan
>now go jerk off to my porn!
>he doesn't know
Don't ask me how I rationalize this, I just believe it
I don't know why
After you die you basically are in a holodeck or a universe with console commands, creative mode
I'm on pheni and kratom right now
Love them both
THIS.
It has been 4 years and my vision is still fricked.
>pic related.
From one single dose.
The depersonalization and panic attacks went away after 6 months.
Did you take too much like a moron? You're supposed to try a small amount and gradual up the dose to where it's noticeable
i have that without drugs
I started using phenibut a couple times a week on top of a daily kratom habit to be more sociable at a retail job. Then I started taking it too often and forced myself to stop because phenibut withdrawal sounds bad
I bought some of this shit on a whim and it never really seemed to ever really do very much. But I left a bag of it at my parents place when I moved out. In typical fashion they pretty much cleared my old room out and made it into a computer room a fricking week after I leave and just throw a bunch of my shit out. But yea its now impossible to even get the stuff anymore.
How so?
For me it was alcohol.
Me too. Going cold turkey today. Already feeling that itch to go buy a bottle of some beer for tonight. Absolutely sucks.
Buy a bottle of liquor or some beer ***
liquor? I don't even know'er!
>I'll show myself out
Did it some time ago, after few days you gonna feel great - godspeed anon
WAGMI
For me it was women.
How?
For me it was fast food
>take Kratom for chronic pain in knee
>get addicted, start getting b***hy when I don't have it
>go cold turkey
>get extremely anxious for a week, b***hy for 2 weeks
>quit cold turkey
suck it up OP, stop being a homosexual
I take it once a week, are you Black folk blasting 20 g every day??
Probably, most people have absolutely no self control. I barely even take it once a week, maybe every few weeks if I have some pain, and never over 3 grams. I also take phenibut about once a week to relax, barely ever over a gram, and it honestly baffles me how people could get addicted to it. Yeah it feels good in higher doses, but that comes with more side effects that frick you up and make you feel shitty afterwards, and the good effects diminish if you start taking a lot of it all the time. I also take small doses of modafinil every so often as a subtle stimulant. You honestly get so much more benefit from drugs when you have some self control and just use them as performance and mood enhancement.
Its literally the only thing in life that gives me a tangible sense of joy and pleasure.
Which leads me to taking it 3-4 times a day, which in return raises my dopamine baseline so that I'm dead without it, and also nukes my testosterone and has completely stripped me of my virility, libido, muscle and drive.
If I stop taking it, I just become a numb zombie, unable to feel any sense of happiness.
whats the best way to take it?
do you just mix in in water or what
I got a capsule press for $20 and made my own pills that way.
For it was Chainlink
lmfao, hope you make it
Poor linkies. Should have bought HEX instead.
It didn't exactly ruin my life but I have been addicted to it for >5 years and when I quit at the end of this month I fear I'll never be 100% again
Ive quit a couple different times, for weeks and months at a time.
I was a numb shell of a man both times. There was a craving for tangible relief that lingered 24/7, driving me into madness until I submitted.
Yet kratom pretty much takes my soul. I become smaller, my voice loses its deep tone, I stay inside and become a shut in, my complexion worsens, my butthole gets blown out. I become.. whatever the frick I am now.
This is truly my curse. Meant to break my soul once and for all.
Yep I've also quit for a couple months and the entire time I was drinking a 750 of vodka and cheap beer every day. I know what you mean about craving tangible relief. I was tired, and bored, and became extremely reckless because I just felt so shitty. I almost got a DUI after hitting a trashcan on the wrong side of the road and blowing over the limit. Luckily I had been on a ride along with the cop before so he probably helped me only get community service and nothing on my record. But then my parents made me go to this day program for mentally ill people and that's when I started taking kratom again since I'm a social moron and need to be on something to talk to people. Now I'm just a kratom addicted neet that stayed in my room during Christmas and New Year's
Yep I also stayed drunk. Couldnt stop drinking even though I hated it.
Just trying to scratch that itch/fill the void with absolute futility
American hours
You just know
because both kratom and phenibut are legal mostly in usa only, for some reason.
i was addicted to poppy opium real bad, but i kicked that cold turkey. 2 months of withdrawals.
I self medicated depression with Tianeptine, then Kratom. Killed my libido during my peak years
For me, it was trenbolone. It didn’t actually ruin my life, but I basically lost a really good girl, and it wasn’t tren, it was just a catalyst to make me unable to control my inner demons. Ultimately, if I can learn my lesson after this last frick up, I’ll come out if the other side a better man, but I fear I’ll just get lost in the cycle and keep repeating the same thing.
Lost a friend to kratom. Not worth it brah.
I hate how puritanical this board has become. Why can't you homosexuals do things in moderation? Why are you either always drunk/high or straight-edge sober? How weak is your psyche if you can't enjoy yourself occasionally, without letting it control your life? Why do you pretend that you're not a weak homosexual, and act like everyone will become uncontrollably addicted to any substance? You homosexuals are no better than the politician's wives who got parental advisory stickers put on music.
>Why are you either always drunk/high or straight-edge sober?
those people are the most vocal but i think most people are just normal and can occasionally indulge in shit without becoming obsessed/anti-obsessed with it so they dont need to talk about it constnatly
i come here to give and receive good advice not for enabling
drugs are bad yes they can be fun and positive in moderation but i don't need telling
>do the fun thing! it's fun!
i need to be told i'm a homosexual gaylord and i need to get my shit together
because the rest of the world does just tell you it's ok to be a pot smoking queer selling pics of your butthole to compensate for your miserable income working as a fry cook
but it's not
>went from a near daily user to only taking ~2 grams on Sundays to relax
You can do it too lads, its much better
story?
I was using it on and off, quit cold turkey after using it daily for a 4-month period.
reason: I realized I was literally the "it's natural brah" version of daily xanax popper