Learn fighting alone

I picked bodybuilding because you can get it done alone (unlike most sports).
What are the best ways to learn and condition for fighting without training and learning with other people?
Also what are some IST things I can do solo?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Report back when you find out

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can practice hitting a bag by yourself. It won't make you good in a ring but only a redditor thinks that drilling punching biomechanics is no better than sitting on your ass getting in internet arguments. You also get sport-specific conditioning if you're actively moving around the bag and shit and doing it for hard rounds.

    Then just watch tutorials on how to hit safely. Protip, only land with your index and middle knuckles. There's ER studies showing the ring and pinky knuckles are the ones that most often break in a punch. Also, don't try hitting as hard as possible that only matters if you have boxing gloves. Bare knuckles lacerate and shit so you don't need haymakers to frick someone up.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What are the best ways to learn and condition for fighting without training and learning with other people?
      You can't. It takes two to tango. You NEED sparring against a resisting opponent to learn any amount of technique. The best you can do is simply condition your body for more size, power, strength, athleticism and endurance. Do the olympic lifts, do odd lifts, do shit that makes you strong and explosive. The do loads and loads of cardio. This will make you a better athlete, but you won't be able to fight. It will aid you immensly once you start, though.

      I already have some actual fighting training from my childhood. Never pursued it seriously though. Only striking.
      Does this change things?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i thought this too after i trained for like a year in kickboxing/muaythai (at a gym, sparring and everything), but when i got more serious about it and also hit the bag way more, i realized bagwork doesn't translate to sparring even if you spar and know what you're doing, its just cardio/conditioning and power, you legit cant learn to fight without trainers watching you + sparring different people, the movement and muscle memory of countering people when they hit your guard, the defense, connecting your hits properly, you just can't learn it any other way.
      the tiniest mistakes can mean getting knocked out or having like 50% more power in your jab, i think telling untrained people to hit a bag might give them false confidence. they are better off spending the time bloatmaxxing.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What are the best ways to learn and condition for fighting without training and learning with other people?
    You can't. It takes two to tango. You NEED sparring against a resisting opponent to learn any amount of technique. The best you can do is simply condition your body for more size, power, strength, athleticism and endurance. Do the olympic lifts, do odd lifts, do shit that makes you strong and explosive. The do loads and loads of cardio. This will make you a better athlete, but you won't be able to fight. It will aid you immensly once you start, though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need a parent to be okay at fight. When I was younger I thought myself passes and submissions from bjj and when I joined wrestling and got into fights I applied them pretty well. So you can learn to fight esp with grappling cuz ppl hardly know how

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Combat sports is not something you can get good at alone. Unless you can build a robot that will spar with you, all you can do is practice technique.
    To put it into perspective that you may understand, imagine playing counter strike alone for your whole life. Practicing your aim. You're aim will get better but your ability to play against other people won't.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get a heavy bag/speed bag and some 14oz gloves, a jump rope and watch Tutorials on boxing drills. Get your cardio and your punching power up. Imagine you’re also defending when you drill so your hands should be always up protecting your head. Footwork and head movement is important and sparring is the only way to really learn how to fight, but training alone is extremely therapeutic and better than nothing. If you can throw a hard 1-2 over and over for 30 minutes straight you’re better off than 90% of untrained fighters.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you’re better off than 90% of untrained fighters
      >some dyel whose been practice throwing jab cross like a moron
      dont give false hope like this. the amount of times ive seen some dork say they are good at something just to show they have no fricking clue. and im not even talkin about fighting, im just talkin about working out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A solid 1-2 puts you well above the average joe who is going to come at you throwing haymakers, which is why I said untrained fighters. Obviously someone who actually trains will frick you up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >implying the dorks will actually learn the basic jab correctly
          >implying the dorks will know how to react when someone is throwing haymakers at you
          im assuming you have never sparred before? you are really expecting someone who has never sparred or fought to do well in their first fight, even against some violent guy who has been in fights but with 0 training?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            OP here
            Read

            [...]
            I already have some actual fighting training from my childhood. Never pursued it seriously though. Only striking.
            Does this change things?

            It's not my first fight. Not my first time sparring. I know punches and kicks. I just need to know how to progress.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >ive sparred as a kid
              >so this means i know what im doing
              Yea you might as well put that down on your resume for anything in life. Whats next? Telling me you once played with Thomas the Train when you were a kid and you should be good as a train conductor as an adult?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have a black belt and fought in actual tournaments. Placing top 3 in some. It's not MMA. It's not fighting in a super professional league. But it's at least something.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >i have experience as a child
                >but i still need advice from unexperienced random people on IST to tell me if this will work or not
                >but my experience as a child should be enough
                you're either lying or dumb as frick

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >>but my experience as a child should be enough
                Read the thread. I only have experience with striking. Not grappling. Also a few tournaments as a kid doesn't make you a fighter. A guy training MMA now would kick my ass.
                All I'm saying is that I have a basic foundation. How do I build on top of that, alone?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lol yes if someone can hit the bag for 30 minutes straight and has a solid 1-2 they will probably win their first street fight unless they are physically inept. I’m not saying to go compete in the ufc you sperg. I said the only way to learn is to spar, but if you’re dead set on training alone then to do what I said. And btw I would destroy you with nothing but my jab.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              who is hitting a heavy bag for thirty minutes straight like you would in rounds? frick are you taking about that's not even possible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >If you can throw a hard 1-2 over and over for 30 minutes straight
      i have a heavy bag at home, hung it up when i bought my house and never used it in five years tbh - what is a one-two?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A jab and a cross. The most basic fundamental boxing technique.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you just join an MMA gym and train?
    You don't have to stay forever, but it would actually be effective and you might enjoy it. You'll quickly realize it does not take much to beat untrained people

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      1. I don't talk to people
      2. There are no proper MMA gyms in the shithole where I live. Only "instructors", basically grifters who teach very little.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't spar regurarly you're gonna flinch like a b***h. You have to find a good gym if you want to learn how to fight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      people who dont train dont understand that, its pretty funny to see beginners sparring and they just flinch all over the place and erratically throw their limbs at the end of their flinches at the same time, sparring is really 80% mental, its why manlets get to dominate bigger beginners because they spaz out on every movement and feint and get backed into the corner and shell up against 10% power jabs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OP here.
        I know what you are talking about. Do you have to spar regularly? Do you lose the capacity to spar if you stop doing it. As I said I've already competed but it was a long long time ago.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the more you spar the better you get at it, and it takes a while to learn to spar, and get good at it if you've never done it, and when you stop doing it you slowly lose the skill. for me it took me almost a year to really feel sparring because i wasn't really mentally prepared for it, although there are more reasons for that (everyone is much bigger than me, i was socially anxious, not truly into it etc). i've been kickboxing for 3 years now.
          if you've competed as a kid in something like karate or TKD it will be very different and probably wont matter, when you're an adult and do full contact stuff there is more weight in everything and you're more likely to get hurt, either way the most important part is not really doing the right combinations and stuff like that, its more about when you do them, and where you are at when you do them, and being aware of all those things at the same time, while remaining calm and under control. you can't control your opponent but you can control what you do yourself and trying to make it so your opponent is reacting to you instead of vice versa, its hard to explain i guess.
          the bag not hitting back is extremely important, because its about pressure and awareness, strategy, etc. you just can't replicate it, besides maybe with a padholder who really knows what hes doing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the more you spar the better you get at it, and it takes a while to learn to spar, and get good at it if you've never done it, and when you stop doing it you slowly lose the skill. for me it took me almost a year to really feel sparring because i wasn't really mentally prepared for it, although there are more reasons for that (everyone is much bigger than me, i was socially anxious, not truly into it etc). i've been kickboxing for 3 years now.
          if you've competed as a kid in something like karate or TKD it will be very different and probably wont matter, when you're an adult and do full contact stuff there is more weight in everything and you're more likely to get hurt, either way the most important part is not really doing the right combinations and stuff like that, its more about when you do them, and where you are at when you do them, and being aware of all those things at the same time, while remaining calm and under control. you can't control your opponent but you can control what you do yourself and trying to make it so your opponent is reacting to you instead of vice versa, its hard to explain i guess.
          the bag not hitting back is extremely important, because its about pressure and awareness, strategy, etc. you just can't replicate it, besides maybe with a padholder who really knows what hes doing.

          i guess specific examples are to not look down when sparring, look at what your opponent is doing, movement in general (cutting off the ring, not just going backwards or just forward), keeping your hands up, applying pressure, connecting hits against different sized opponents, etc.
          you can't really test or feel out anything on a bag, a different stance will have a different effect on an opponent than just seeing how you do things hitting a bag for example.
          peopl react in different ways, learning jab-jab-cross on a bag isnt the same as doing it to people.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you can't. the best bet would be reading some book about boxing and practice the proper technique on the bag, than play a lot of some VR boxing game, like the thrill of the fight.

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