Let's settle this once and for all

Is IST a pro-rice or pro-potato board? Last time this thread was active it was clear that Europeans prefer potatoes while Americans prefer rice. Has this changed?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both are great but for different reasons. Rice is more calorie dense, easily digestible and less filling, so it's great for bulking or a regular high(er) calorie diet. Potatoes have better micros, are less calorie dense and more filling, so they are nice on a cut or low calorie diet. They are too different in that regard to pick one over the other, it depends on the circumstances.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I tend to eat rice for lunch and potatoes for dinner.
      Potatoes are overall better, but rice is more convenient to make and not much worse.

      https://i.imgur.com/J4t19gN.jpeg

      I can eat rice like a crackhead. I use it a ton in meal prep and have not even come close to burning out.
      No disrespect to the potato, it's good and has its place, but good jasmine rice along with some variant of chicken breast has been my standard dinner for ages. Case in point, here's what I had tonight and will be having the rest of this week.

      Gonna have to try this at my next refeed, thanks for the idea. Rice + tatoes does sound pretty damn good.

      Depends on the dish.
      Rice is easier for meal prep.

      Rice bros I need help. I sincerely don't get what I'm doing wrong my rice never comes out this perfect way everyone else seems to be able to do so effortlessly. Can someone hook me up to a basic, foolproof instruction for how to do it? I usually do one cup of rice and three cups of water, boil the water, reduce heat, add rice and cook until it feels ready but it usually ends up over or undercooked and I've never gotten the texture right.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Buy an electric rice cooker. I too never got it right and this thing make it a nobrainer, made me stop buying delivery lunch.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's normally 1 part rice 2 parts water
        >rinse rice until water is clear. use a fine mesh strainer
        >put rice and water in pot
        >add salt, spices, tomato sauce, whatever
        >boil on highest heat
        >once bubbles start to form, put on air tight lid (no holes at all) and reduce heat to lowest setting or nearly lowest (depends on how much rice you are making, power of stove, pot thickness, etc.)
        >cook 10-15 minutes (also depends on the rice)
        >turn off heat and leave it on the burner, still covered, for another 10 minutes
        enjoy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Can someone hook me up to a basic, foolproof instruction for how to do it?

          Stovetop:
          >get 0.5 cup of white rice
          >put in 1.5x amount of water (0.75 cups)
          >bring to boil over high heat
          >cover and put on low (not very low) and let it steam for 15 minutes if short grain, 20 minutes if long grain rice
          >take off heat but don't remove cover for 5-10 minutes
          >fluff with fork or rubber spatula and eat

          you have to cook the rice a bit before putting the water in
          use butter
          if you must use vegetable oil, use olive oil

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no you don't moron what the frick are you on?
            >if you must use vegetable oil, use olive oil
            kys gay. you are not smart.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            toasting the rice isn't necessary, maybe if you're making paella or something spanish like that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          too much water

          >Can someone hook me up to a basic, foolproof instruction for how to do it?

          Stovetop:
          >get 0.5 cup of white rice
          >put in 1.5x amount of water (0.75 cups)
          >bring to boil over high heat
          >cover and put on low (not very low) and let it steam for 15 minutes if short grain, 20 minutes if long grain rice
          >take off heat but don't remove cover for 5-10 minutes
          >fluff with fork or rubber spatula and eat

          correct amount of water

          >rinse rice
          >small piece of putter on pot
          >cook the rice until it doesn't stick to your wooden spoon (no water yet)
          >boil water on the side
          >when the rice gets transparent and doesn't stick anymore, pour the hot water in
          >pour enough water until you don't see the rice
          >season it (pepper or salt or both)
          >leave the lid almost closed, but with a small opening
          >low heat
          >wait until all water has evaporated, NEVER STIR

          done

          based for toasting it except boiling water on the side is full moron. just put it in and bring to boil

          1:2 rice:water or broth

          >rinse rice
          >boil water
          >add rice and reduce to simmer, keep lid on pot
          >stir occasionally
          >remove when water is absorbed, ~25 minutes

          too much water

          [...]
          https://youtube.com/shorts/2aTTmP9idRY
          It's this. Tweak it as you'd like to fit your needs, I skipped the olive oil for the chicken.

          [...]
          I use an Instant Pot(tm). 1:1 water:rice ratio, pressure cook on high for 4 minutes, allow to sit on Natural Release for 10 minutes, release the pressure and it's ready to go.
          If you really want guaranteed perfect rice buy a Zojirushi rice cooker. Also, ALWAYS wash the rice before cooking.

          1:1 is good for cookers, not stovetop

          [...]
          you have to cook the rice a bit before putting the water in
          use butter
          if you must use vegetable oil, use olive oil

          it's better if you do, but you don't have to

          >bacon grease
          >whole garlic cloves
          >minced onion
          >salt
          >better than bouillon
          >oregano
          >cook
          >toast your measured rice
          >add water
          >bring to boil
          >stir and cover
          >reduce to simmer
          >timer 25 min
          >when it's done you pop the lid and leave it for 5
          >stir into PERFECTION
          also washing rice is fricking gay, ruins the rice, and strips it of nutrients

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >boiling water on the side is full moron
            it speeds it up
            plus I copy my grandma 1:1 no exceptions

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              use a kettle if you must, but it makes no sense or difference

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Can someone hook me up to a basic, foolproof instruction for how to do it?

        Stovetop:
        >get 0.5 cup of white rice
        >put in 1.5x amount of water (0.75 cups)
        >bring to boil over high heat
        >cover and put on low (not very low) and let it steam for 15 minutes if short grain, 20 minutes if long grain rice
        >take off heat but don't remove cover for 5-10 minutes
        >fluff with fork or rubber spatula and eat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        get a rice cooker, I think you can get one for 20$. Equal part rice and water. I like firm chewy rice not mushy rice. The finger method doesn't work for me cause Asians have tiny fingers and I don't (also asian)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >rinse rice
        >small piece of putter on pot
        >cook the rice until it doesn't stick to your wooden spoon (no water yet)
        >boil water on the side
        >when the rice gets transparent and doesn't stick anymore, pour the hot water in
        >pour enough water until you don't see the rice
        >season it (pepper or salt or both)
        >leave the lid almost closed, but with a small opening
        >low heat
        >wait until all water has evaporated, NEVER STIR

        done

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1:2 rice:water or broth

        >rinse rice
        >boil water
        >add rice and reduce to simmer, keep lid on pot
        >stir occasionally
        >remove when water is absorbed, ~25 minutes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Buy thai rice and not that dog ass basmati rice

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        use a rice cooker like the few billion asians do

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I cook rice in an instant pot pressure cooker according to this recipe. It's so good I actually threw out my expensive Japanese rice cooker.

        https://greenhealthycooking.com/instant-pot-rice/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        foolproof instruction for how much water to rice: put water up until first knuckle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >boil the water, reduce heat, add rice and cook
        Get a rice cooker.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        $20 rice cooker at walmart is still cooking rice perfectly 10 years later. Equal parts rice and water and press ON. (Check ur rice cooker manual for the proper water-rice ratio

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah it's worth it, I still have my made in Japan's National ricecooker that my parents bought in the 80's, still cooks rice as good as new

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A pot and water does the same thing.
          Is this another gimmick like muh air fryers.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Its extremaly convienient if you eat a lot of rice. Half of asia use it tho i suspect it could be partially because of different kitchen design. Multiburner stoves are less popular so something you can plug into outlet is propably important. It cooks perfect rice every time, turns off automatically, you dont need to tinker with temperature the way you do with a stove.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1:3 ratio is way too much, your shit is probably all mushy and gross
        it should be 1:2, honestly I prefer it drier and undershoot the water level most of the times

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can substitute rice with a pure sugar. Does absolutely the same, the same amount of micronutrients. But no arsenic... it's ridiculous how people were memed into earing rice and that it's still not banned because of arsenic. The only reason the usa didin't ban it, is because people in third world shotholes would starvw without it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You can substitute rice with a pure sugar. Does absolutely the same
        Literally different molecules (starch vs sucrose). Ketogays pls stop labeling all carbs "sugar" you moronic imbeciles

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Literaly almost the same molecule and as soon it gets ibto your stomach, turns into the same glucose. No fructose in rice, which instantly get's into muscles as glycogen. So it's even worse. It has no fiber to slow down the digestion.
          Only absolute morons eat rice, when just eating pure sugar is healthier...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >pure sugar is healthier
            the state of mutts

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >literally
            >almost
            Them it isn't literally you goddamn brain dead zoomer.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So now you agree that it does absolutely the same and has the same profile of micronutrients, except of more of arsenic.
              Seriously, rice is as bad as eating pure sugar. Same shit. Any discussion of the difference is like comparing conola oil vs sunflower oil. Same shit no one should ever eat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No it doesn't you absolute dumbass 😀
                >sucrose = glucose + fructose
                >starch = glucose
                Imbecile 😀 kys

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Literaly almost the same molecule and as soon it gets ibto your stomach, turns into the same glucose. No fructose in rice, which instantly get's into muscles as glycogen. So it's even worse. It has no fiber to slow down the digestion.
        Only absolute morons eat rice, when just eating pure sugar is healthier...

        What is it with mentally ill people/brain-decayed boomers and talking... like they think they're... on a TV show....

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Objectively, potatoes. Nutrient density is higher (compare 100 g of each)
    https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrition-comparison/168930-170438/100g-100g/1-1/1

    More fibre, more minerals in potato.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Now run potato vs black lentil

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both at the same time is an underated banger

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna have to try this at my next refeed, thanks for the idea. Rice + tatoes does sound pretty damn good.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just here to watch the low carvers/carnies tell people these staples cause disease etc

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When my mom ends up dying due to a preventable heart disease, I am genuinely going to hunt down every keto/carnivore shill that convinced her to eat such a moronic fricking diet

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sorry your mom fell.for the grift. Maybe shell lose the weight and get off the diet like most women do?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          She's been at it for years now. And of course she lost a bit of weight initially, which convinced her that it works. But she has since stopped losing weight or even gained that weight back. When I see the shit she is eating, it's gotta be 800+ calories of mainly fat per serving

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm so sorry anon
            Maybe you can try to sort of underhandedly get her to switch to less fattier meats and bulk her up on veggies. A 10 ounce grass fed stripload steak is super filling and has less than 10g of fat in the whole thing. If you pair that with mashed cauliflower and mushrooms or something I'm.sure it'll satiate her. Then maybe you can switch her to chicken thighs and veggies and stuff. Shell lose weight much faster and maybe shell abandon the keto grift

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              She's been at it for years now. And of course she lost a bit of weight initially, which convinced her that it works. But she has since stopped losing weight or even gained that weight back. When I see the shit she is eating, it's gotta be 800+ calories of mainly fat per serving

              Striploin* steak

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love both. They are my preferred source of carbs. However, potatoes are simply godly. I could eat an entire bag at once, with olive oil or butter, and salt mmmm

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >potatoes high in oxalates
    >rice high on arsenic

    Pick your poison IST

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oxalates are good for you ketolard. Only brown rice has high amounts of arsenic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Brown rice is such a fricking meme, morons think it's healthier but ignore the fact that every Asian culture eats nothing but white rice.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ive never heard that it was better/worse for you, just that theres a little more fiber in brown rice. Tbh i prefer the taste of brown rice, second guessing last weeks 2.5lb bag purchase

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fiber vitamins minerals. White rice has none of that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Oxalates are good for you
        they are not
        they steal calcium from your body and make kidney stones
        potatoes don't have enough to be dangerous, you would have to be a total fricking weakling to get kidney stones from a fricking potato

        it's another story if you're eating DGLVs, which will easily give you kidney stones

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          brocollis are bad?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            venom
            if you want to eat broccoli, give it to a chicken, then eat the chicken

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      white rice doesn't have arsenic

      Brown rice is such a fricking meme, morons think it's healthier but ignore the fact that every Asian culture eats nothing but white rice.

      correct

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Combine oxalates with calcium-rich foods before consuming magnesium-rich foods for optimum nutrient absorption and anti nutrient excretion.
      >baked potato with sour cream
      >follow up with banana

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Combine oxalates with calcium-rich foods
        based anon trying to give birthing pain to other anons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pussy ass b***h homie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the arsenic is just from rice grown in the carolinas because of bad soil
      you just have to rinse it a little bit extra before cooking and it's fine

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I tend to eat rice for lunch and potatoes for dinner.
    Potatoes are overall better, but rice is more convenient to make and not much worse.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can eat rice like a crackhead. I use it a ton in meal prep and have not even come close to burning out.
    No disrespect to the potato, it's good and has its place, but good jasmine rice along with some variant of chicken breast has been my standard dinner for ages. Case in point, here's what I had tonight and will be having the rest of this week.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      recipe?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        This looks good as frick, pleasemhssh share

        https://youtube.com/shorts/2aTTmP9idRY
        It's this. Tweak it as you'd like to fit your needs, I skipped the olive oil for the chicken.

        [...]
        [...]
        [...]
        [...]
        Rice bros I need help. I sincerely don't get what I'm doing wrong my rice never comes out this perfect way everyone else seems to be able to do so effortlessly. Can someone hook me up to a basic, foolproof instruction for how to do it? I usually do one cup of rice and three cups of water, boil the water, reduce heat, add rice and cook until it feels ready but it usually ends up over or undercooked and I've never gotten the texture right.

        I use an Instant Pot(tm). 1:1 water:rice ratio, pressure cook on high for 4 minutes, allow to sit on Natural Release for 10 minutes, release the pressure and it's ready to go.
        If you really want guaranteed perfect rice buy a Zojirushi rice cooker. Also, ALWAYS wash the rice before cooking.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The recipe checks out except for the mayo- unless you're making your own there's a 99.999% chance it's just a bottle of seed oil. Luckily it's extremely easy to make with olive oil at home.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      recipe?

      This looks good as frick, pleasemhssh share

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    (toasted)buckwheat groats>potato>rice

    [...]

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm with you lad

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Brotatoes are unmatched

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wheat mogs both, sorry gays.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Potatoes have fewer FODMAPs and are less likely to cause inflammation

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the dish.
    Rice is easier for meal prep.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Forgetting sweet potatoes
    If you can find them, White sweet potatoes are amazing and taste good even when cold.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how do i calculate the macros of my potatoes? raw weight or after cooking?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >this homie gonna weigh hot food
      always raw.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ok thanks. chicken i weight it after cooking tho

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    rice

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      spinach has micronutrients but we can't digest them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Walnuts > almonds
      Kale > spinach

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Walnuts > almonds
        Tthe only thing walnuts really have is omega 3 but they also have a ton of omega 6 meanwhile almonds are an amazing source of Vitamin E
        >Kale > spinach
        They excel in different areas

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are other ways to get vitamin E, but I understand where you're coming from. Omega 3 is a b***h to get as an American when shit is loaded with omega 6 rich oils, and the ratio is important for absorption.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        all those 4 are poisonous

        The frick are you on about?

        venom

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    potatoes are better for you but I'm Asian so rice

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    both

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bread

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If I knew how I would permanently destroy my cravings for these carbs. Why the frick do they always sound so good
    Do I need to poison myself while eating them in order to cause a "don't eat this" response?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      my experience after being on keto for about 3 months now (fatass losing fat) was that my carb cravings disappeared completely about a month in. i sometimes still feel "oh it would be nice to have some rice" from time to time but those strong carb craving impulses are all gone now for me.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >enjoying a simple pleasure is a "craving"
        ketogays are beyond saving

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that's one way to see it, but it's working really well for me so far. i'm down about 35lbs since january and i always have consistent energy throughout the day. started lifting consistently about 3 weeks ago and i always have energy for completing my workouts

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ya, you're in a huge caloric deficit. im happy for you

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              i don't think i'm in a huge deficit, i track my calories very autistically but i might be doing something wrong.

              based on my height, weight, and bf% estimate, my sedentary TDEE is about 2050 calories. i consistently eat 2100-2200 calories a day (mostly fatty beef and eggs, plus a little dairy). i lift weights for an hour 3 days a week, and go for a one hour leisurely walk the other 4 days a week. i don't think i burn more than 200 calories from exercise per day, so idk how i've lost so much weight so quickly.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How much do you weigh?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                currently 207 lbs, 5'9", about 35% bf according to the navy body fat calculator

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yes you are in a large deficit of about 1000 calories/ day, probably more since you are somewhat active.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                but surely there's no way i'd maintain my weight eating 3k calories a day, i didn't even get close to that when i was stuck at 240lbs for a whole year

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yah your metabolism is probably bad too. don't worry about it, just keep losing weight 🙂

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                makes sense, i'll keep at it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >carb cravings
        that's just your body demanding amino acids

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do the autists here only eat one thing?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oats and sweet potatoes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Oats
      vegetable fat is terrible for humans

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The frick are you on about?

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rice is easier to slow bulk off of because you can slightly increase the amount and get it to the exact gram.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rice for bulk, potato for cut.
    Next question

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I eat both. Rice is quicker to cook and more calorie dense but the micros on potatoes are clearly superior.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Americans prefer rice
    Bullshit
    t. Idahoan

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The humble tuber sharpened the minds of great thinkers, nourished the bodies of great conquerors and tempered the spirits of great explorers. The potato man is kept lean, energised and alert, prepared to inspire both book and song for generations to come.

    Thee arrogant grain is mere fuel for cattle and to fatten up the detestable rice-slave yet keeps them too weak to overthrow their shackles.

    There is no comparison.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you don't have abs(which 90% of this board doesn't) you have no business eating either
    eat some meat and vegetables instead

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >potatoes are better in every way
    >except if you are sub-5% bf they cause bloating that makes you look skinny fat
    Why is god a c**t?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't sub-5%*

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Another thread disguised as a DYEL trap thread
    Literally only dyels get this frickin autistic about food

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is IST a pro-rice or pro-potato board?

    Corn
    >Europeans never figured out nixtamalization

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Corn
      this homie eatin' corn

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He never figured out nixtamalization

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For buildyboding? Rice, nothing touches rice.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rice
    >sourced from the worst farms on Earth
    >hard to grow and harvest
    >barely any nutritional value
    >food for Chinese peasants
    >modern forms are somehow even worse than ancient forms

    Potato
    >grows easily almost anywhere
    >starchy, but good micronutrients
    >great potassium per calorie
    >not much different now than in the past
    >European peasant food

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Taters. Only 3rd worlders disagree.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rice is disgusting.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pic rel
    the white man's carb of choice
    >versatile, just like the white man
    >boil it
    >bake it
    >fry it
    >slap it
    >suck it
    >frick it
    anything else is dirty peasant food

    stay mad, peasants

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pasta
      that's a brown man's food anon, white people ate bread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >says pasta is a brown man's food
        >proceeds to eat rice like all the 1.4 billion poojeets

        i'll say it again
        pasta is the true patrician's choice of carbs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nice, she can give up her stupid voting rights and scrub my floors any day if you know what I mean.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I thought that picture was coke and crack. I have a severe addiction to fentanyl and just shot up a fatal overdose. I'm having a heart attack while I write this. Goodbye

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Potato
    >more filling
    >has a taste
    >orders of magnitude more nutritious

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I cycle between carb sources
    >buy and cook a bunch of potatoes, eat for a week
    >make rice, eat for a week
    >buy bread and eat for a week
    >repeat
    I just dont want to miss out on whatever benefit each has, and I never get tired of them

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Americans don't love potatoes
    bait

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Potatoes are superior. Just make sure you peel them, since the solanine is concentrated in the skin.
    Tubers will always beat out grains in terms of health. The former has way fewer anti-nutrients and is therefore more digestible. Sweet potatoes are even better than regular white potatoes.
    t. American

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >not eating the skin
      You moronic or something?

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    neither.

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