Getting women isn't the goal right now. I'd just like to able to walk up to anyone in public and not feel odd making a random convo with people.
I feel like most people in general avoid others in public because of social anxiety. Some obviously overcome that and can achieve a lot with that. You know like a business person who can talk up anyone. Or when your that right level of tipsy when convos just flow naturally.
I want to be become a social savant of some sort.
Any tips for people who've gone to non social to a social boss?
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>Getting women isn't the goal right now
Stopped reading there.
It never was.
Fitness my dick in her every tiny hole.
Also I can make eye contact just fine its just like that breaking the ice moment where everything goes to shit.
>walking past someone in the mall
>make eye contact
>almost past them
>look again
>still looking at you
>walk past and nothing happens
Should I have said something or are people just odd?
It's polite eye contact, you're just acknowledging that the other person is there but it's not necessarily the start of a convo. I would say you should definitely do this first if you plan to talk to a stranger though instead of startling them outta nowhere
damn bro. i'd say once i got out of college and got a job in an office, i had become more social. I was a cringe kid too when i was younger. I thought being mysterious is better than being social. The thing is you could buy books, watch youtube videos, and gain knowledge about being social, but you wouldn't really appreciate it without going out there and actually playing the part.
I'm nowhere near my goals yet OP, but i have people who inspires me to keep lifting and being around those people makes it easier to just keep on lifting. I started going to the gym with headphones, but then after a while those headphones became too much of a nuisance to use when people around me started talking to me and i didn't dismiss them because i recognize them.
They say that you have to leave your comfort zone to achieve what you want but people tend to take it to the extreme and just think that you have to be opposite of who you are to feel different. That's not true at all. Sometimes your comfort zone is simply blasting music while you pump iron, and just leaving your headphones at home would be leaving your comfort zone.
Socializing is a skill anon, you just have to learn gradually to master it. Hope you have fun on your journey. Don't let a few buttholes ruin it for you.
Just pushing all the BS really what's been motivating me lately came out of a seizure last week and kindve had an epiphany of sorts. Really made me think that I have to take a stand and can't wait for others to help.
This is a good take. A lot of ISTtards are probably the type that think they're somehow better than the 'normie'.
In reality they've just lied to themselves a little bit. "Pfff these loosers don't know what I'm going to do someday' They think they're hot shit bc they read T4HWW and have a high eq because the read 48 LOP. We think we're playing social chess. When in reality, people don't give a frick about you and think you have nothing to offer. IST has this problem way deeper.
The steps to getting out of this trap are:
1. share with people what you're working on
2. actually do it.
1. Conversations don't happen if neither person talks - duh. Do you ever talk to someone and at least think, 'wow they're really doing something, why cant i be like them?" Set yourself some realistic goals and or ambitions. people will want to talk to you about that.
2. go out and do them. people will know what you're trying to do. They will help you if they are able because the will expect you to return the favor - reciprocity. (You should send the elevator back down). When they see you moving up, people under you will push you up, people over you will try to latch to you to stay on top.
tldr, realistic goals -> actual action -> share w people -> give back
>avoid others in public because of social anxiety
I actually have no problem approaching others in public and can strike up a conversation with people
But I generally choose not to approach them because I have gotten some weird overreactions to pretty simple conversation starters
imo just be chill with everyone and dont force your way into someone's life
gotta earn respect and likeability
>social savant
>social boss
what the frick are you talking about lol
give an example of one of these
if you see people out having fun in groups it's probably friends they have known for years, people dont just jump into a conversation like they know each other
>what the frick are you talking about lol
>give an example of one of these
>if you see people out having fun in groups it's probably friends they have known for years, people dont just jump into a conversation like they know each other
Not always. Might be a culture thing but I see some people just be able to make convos with anyone all the time. It's mostly people from other countries that seem to be the most social to me. Seems like people born in the US just avoid people if they don't already know each other like you said.
yeah I am basing my opinion off the usa culture
There are places where people really do not want to meet you and places where people are really open to meeting you in the usa though
For some reason at uni everyone was really outgoing but after uni it seems like people in their 20s are way less social
that guy who knows how to work a room. you see it in politicians, savvy networkers, party hosts, self-help gurus etc.
imo that kind of person can really easily come off as a used car salesman and be offputting
I live in dc where alot of politics happens and I have met people who are genuinely that social person
But there are more people who really come across like try hards and phonies
People who are trying to use you as their step to success with a fake smile and scripted conversations
are you trying to get into a career which involves that skill like politics?
How frequently do you see yourself being in those situations?
OP here
Being a try hard isn't what I want. I've always been kind've an introvert and been socially awkward in most situations. Couldn't tell you why. I don't really care what others think of me too much but I know I've got to make some change in order to get success in life. Always kind've felt I'm on the outside looking in.
Really want to atleast try to get some legit friends first.
>in order to get success in life
where are you at in life?
What defines your success?
I will say that for myself much of my own confidence is based in what I have accomplished and that translates across the board socially
I make a load of money at a pretty good software dev gig, I am in good shape, have good lifts, am a decent climber, etc
>Always kind've felt I'm on the outside looking in
when was the time in your life where this was the least true?
>try to get some legit friends first
what do you have to offer that people would want to be around you?
>kind've
>kind have
you sound like kind've a moron.
I knew a girl who was like this. She could immediately click with anyone she met sometimes it felt supernatural
its called being a pretty attractive thot
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What's up with the anemia? Oral supps fricking her iron levels up?
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Some people actually leave the house and get tanned by the sun
What do you mean a tan she looks straight out of the Simpsons.
She isn't even that tan. Step outside once in awhile Casper.
You dense frick I am saying that is NOT a tan.
Treat it like any other skill.
Practice, practice, practice. And learn from your errors.
Thanks. Im headed back to college in a couple weeks so I'll really get a chance to work on myself and get out of my comfort zone.
im in the same boat anon, ive been socailly autistic all my life, i tranferred colleges back to my hometown because i was so bad at making friends and establishing connections. I think a combination of practice talking to people putting yourself in situations where you are forced to be social and just working on your own life. establishing personal accomplishments and hobbies make you feel equal to the people you are talking to.
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and the quads
femlets when will they learn?
She's literally perfect.
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Watch some craig ferguson interviews, that guy is probably peak social skill
Also be hot and generally positive
just have a shot of vodka with breakfast
I unironically just larp as if im actually insane (similar to when Travis is talking to the Secret Service guy in taxi driver) and smoke a cigar and make up some bullshit
Alternatively, literally just do this and pretend you are playing a character in a video game; i.e. unhinged extrovert. Also look into outcome independence. You can act however you want because the outcome doesnt matter
When you have a random question or thought, just say it out loud. A large percentage of normans love talking, the other day I saw girls get their luggage from a trolley at the ferry and I asked them if checking baggage is free (because I was genuinely curious) and that lead to a conversation as to why they were on the ferry bla bla bla. Or just random shit, “cool anime shirt”, “I don’t know what this shirt is”, “frickin phony” “har har har”. A small percentage will be unreceptive entirely and give you the stink eye, another group will give direct answers because they don’t want to converse at that specific time.
Ive got your medicine right here
Use this and pay attention to how you act/feel on it. Then ween the dose down over time but larp as if you took the same amount. Eventually you wont need any but youll have the behaviors down pat
The action/behavior comes first, then YOU change to fit the action/behavior, not the other way around. You have to act first and over time you will get better at the act until it becomes YOU. And there are tools like phenibut that make that process a little bit smoother