>the only valid form of progressive overload is adding weight to the bar, ideally each session
>heavy deadlifting won't destroy your back
>myfibrillar vs. sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (isolation lifts are just "pump work" that don't build real muslce)
>barbell rowing will give you big arms
>squatting will give you abs
Powershitting is the white man's sport.
wtf, i came across one of her videos for the first time last night and now i'm seeing her here
you're confusing their philosophy with resistance training "facts"
>you're confusing their philosophy with resistance training "facts"
Everyone here has probably bought into at least one of these powershitter lies at some point.
It's remarkable how much bullshit they've injected into the fitness space.
Where are you getting this from? These types of people haven't been influential for at least 7 years now
powershitters indoctrinated me into training for their "sport" and all i got was this torn meniscus
>puts powershitter in thread title
>puts photo of Rippetoe
OP is moronic
>More Ripplebreasts cope
The vast majority of Ripplebreasts fellators think of themselves as powerlifters, and Ripplebreasts has not trained a single notable athlete of any sport outside of powerlifting (actually he hasn't even trained anyone who became a world class powerlifter either).
But yeah, keep coping.
>Rippetoe doesn't train powerlifters therefore he is a powerlifter
>the vast majority of Ripplebreasts
People think they do SS because they squat and deadlift and add weight every workout.
Next time you see someone claiming they do SS, ask them what excercises are in the program. Picrel
>actually he hasn't even trained anyone who became a world class powerlifter either
because he got his shit straight. there aren't enough people who have such potential to make a business around training them. You don't make a living repairing supercars, you make a living by repairing skodas and fords
That's the Texas Method and he doesn't recommend back extensions anymore. Or pullups.
I genuinely think he is right about basically everything. I just don't see the flaw in the logic. I've also noticed that the people who hate him seem to be stupid. I really think there is an IQ requirement in play with this. You have to have a certain level of mental ability to actually come to a conclusion about this stuff. These people are not coming to conclusions. They're just farting out unprocessed emotional reactions.
>But you HAVE to do [an arbitrary number of exercises, sets, reps]
>He is le POWERSHITTER!!
>You can't grow [x muscle] without isolating it!!
>I don't see a flaw in the logic
Lifting isn't about words it's about lifting. So go do his routine while I do mine and show me your bicep size.
I do my deadlifts with underhand grip and curl at the top
No wonder all SS programmers look so bottom heavy.
Why do people do SS if they want aesthetics?
>Why do people do SS if they want aesthetics?
they dont
everyone understands that starting STRENGTH is for STRENGTH
Everyone wants aesthetics
Do you seriously think someone out there is thinking "I just want strength I could give a frick if I look like I lift"?
The good thing is strength basically makes you look strong
There is no way to look strong without being strong
>Do you seriously think someone out there is thinking "I just want strength I could give a frick if I look like I lift"?
yes
t. has never done a sport in his life
post body I bet you don't even lift
Ok, athletes. Are we talking about competitive athletes here?
Starting strength was made with 15 year old football players in mind so yeah
No it wasn't
Great argument
It incorporates chinups early in the novice progression
>t. has never done a sport in his life
Neither has the average SSer.
Which is exactly the point of STARTING strength.
>Ripplebreasts has not trained a single notable athlete of any sport outside of powerlifting (actually he hasn't even trained anyone who became a world class powerlifter either).
Why would any elite athlete or world class powerlifter be running an extremely basic 5x5 program designed for people with zero training experience? Why would they go to a gym with "Starting" in the name? Athletes work with hyper specialized, sport specific trainers that are trying to do something that's in a completely different universe as what Rippentoe is doing. When people criticize Starting Strength on here it's like they're talking about a completely different program that has absolutely nothing to do with the Starting Strength concept. Some old lady like this
isn't going to walk into a Gold's and start running Smolov squat program or training like an NFL player.
> Do you seriously think someone out there is thinking "I just want strength I could give a frick if I look like I lift"?
Ya, me. I would rather be strong then look strong
Ditto. Looking nice, which I do, is just a bonus. Everyone here seems to assume PLers all strive to be 300+ pound superheavyweights. The sport does have weight classes you know....
>Everyone wants aesthetics
Some people want to stand up from the shitter on their own. I don't think they have aesthetics as #1 prio
SS assumes much worse starting point than most gymcels here represents
God damnit I'm not talking about pro athletes or grandmothers
I'm addressing the idea that SS is a "strength" routine so it won't give you "aesthetics." It will make you look as muscular as anything else
It gives you the brick shithouse look.
Bodybuilders never have that look to them and never will because mass moves mass.
You have no mass, my dear little friend,
And in this fight, it's your downfall, the end.
Your fists may be fast, your kicks may be quick,
But when push comes to shove, you're just too darned slick.
Your opponent's big, bulky, and strong,
But you, little one, you just don't belong,
You're nimble, you're quick, you dance and you dart,
But in this fight, it's the end of the start.
You jump and you dodge, you duck and you weave,
But your punches just don't have enough heave,
Your kicks may connect, but they lack the weight,
Your lack of mass, it's your ultimate fate.
It's not about skill, or the will to fight,
It's just that your opponent's got the might,
And though you're brave, and though you're bold,
Your lack of mass, it's just too darned cold.
So don't hang your head, don't cry or pout,
Just remember, my friend, what it's all about,
It's not the size, or the mass, or the weight,
It's how you fight, it's how you create.
>Why do people do SS if they want aesthetics?
Well, for dyels SS is as good a starting point as any. I don't give a frick about my bicep size when I'm too fat by 20kg, so I will do compound lifts and chin-ups on a cut, go through progressive overload until my lifts stall, then go with more intermediate program. SS explains the lifts, why they are done the way are done, so why the frick not.
For people who are already 80% there to aestheticmaxx, yeah, it's moronic to do SS because SS doesn't care about it. You don't get a takeaway and expect it to be healthy, the chinks don't have your health in mind when they
are doing the pad thai.
>You write a book about how to get strong the most efficient way
>You organize seminars that create people who can teach other people how to get strong
>People read the book, do what you tell them to do and get strong
>They shit on you because they lost abs.
People are dumb
That being say, the guy clearly immortalized himself as a meme. He seems to understand internet culture quite well for the boomer he is
Do people really make gains with such short workouts? Is it a matter of test?
SS doesn't incorporate pullups or chinups until the intermediate level.
Barbell rows will give you big arms if you're strong. They might not look like a bodybuilders arms but they won't be small.
Rip isn't a powerlifter and hasn't been one for years
>the only valid form of progressive overload is adding weight to the bar, ideally each session
What is RPE, what is periodization?
>heavy deadlifting won't destroy your back
It won't if you manage fatigue and don't lift with terrible form
>myfibrillar vs. sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (isolation lifts are just "pump work" that don't build real muslce)
Actual powerlifters do accessories who want to build "vanity" muscles do isolation, vidrel
rowing will give you big arms
It won't but only Rip says that Shan't Hunt(vidrel), Russel Orhii, Ashton Rouska, Marcellus Williams, Brendan Tietz and all other powerlifters with big arms promote curls
will give you abs
Again only Rip says this all competitive powerlifters I watch say you should do some direct ab work for core strength
wait is SS + GOMAD a lie?
Been doing powerlifting for almost 10 years and haven't injured myself once
>isolation / accessories are redundant
Literally no one is saying this who are you quoting
There's a wannabe powerlifter chubby guy in my gym. I once peaked at his phone from behind and his wallpaper is basically him locking out at 4pl8s conventional (with straps and belt ofc)
His training methodology is also pretty fricking weird, he does squats and DLs 2-3 times a week and bench once a week. Probably does 1 isolation exercise MAX every time he comes.
I'll never understand these cum baiting threads.
I just do compounds and isolation exercises on a PPL, you get best from both worlds.
I feel like both are necessary, I was stalling hard on my db isolation weight, started deadlifting and they all went up.
>chin ups are the same as pull ups
>squatting atg does nothing for leg gains
>cardio is useless and will steal your gains
>no I'm not fat I'm bulking
>I can cut at anytime. I just don't want to
Most of this is just rando online boomer nonsense. The ones who care about powerlifting as a cope for being fat and ugly, and center their entire view of the world around a masculinity that reinforces their beliefs about how they aren’t fat and ugly, but are secretly “more masculine.”
Things like compound supremacy, powerlifting is for real men, avoid working out arms and calves to get bigger arms and calves, caring about looks is feminine (i.e. ugly people are secretly masculine), etc.
And last but not least, “Imma big dude,” said by every person who is 50 lbs overweight.