Life time fatty here who routinely fights biology and gets in shape every 1-2 years with autistic tier calorie counting to drop 20+kgs then gains it a...

Life time fatty here who routinely fights biology and gets in shape every 1-2 years with autistic tier calorie counting to drop 20+kgs then gains it all back the second I ease up.

Is it actually possible to fit things like chocolate and ice cream into a normal functioning diet? I really want to try come up with a "normal" diet I can do forever, I either go hard on fasting or low carb or I get fat but I really want a middle ground but CICO doesn't seem to work

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sugar addiction is real, sugar is more than you think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAmwfdQc8_8&t=1s
    stop being an addict.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Eat chocolate after a healthy meal enjoy a nuked appetite.
    Real chocolate 70% minimum

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ice cream
    No. How can you fit something worth half your daily caloric intake with almost no way to satiate into a sustainable diet?
    >chocolate
    Probably yes.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes, have one small bowl of icecream per week, then go for a walk

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >but CICO doesnt seem to work
    get blood work, you could be pre-diabetic or similar. insulin resistance is real, despite how people here will tell you to "just eat less". considering the question: yes its possible, I eat both (and more) regularly and have difficulties even maintaining weight. the real issue is usually portion sizes, where calorie counting does come in handy again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      CICO doesn't work for sustaining because he stops doing it - he explicitly says it works for weight loss

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My bloodsugar was good when I got bloodwork done but I was over 1 month into strict keto so the fact that it wasn't on the low end of the scale kind of worries me

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        IT'S NOT ABOUT BLOOD SUGAR YOU FUCKING MORON
        IT'S ABOUT INSULIN
        GET A KRAFT INSULIN TEST DONE

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          isn't the second number insulin you mong?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it can take up to 2 years to undo insulin resistance brain damage, good luck

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        only sensible insulin resistance test ist HOMA-IR and fasting insulin levels. your blood work on the pic you posted are markers for diabetes mellitus, which you dont have yet. doesnt really mean anything

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the second I ease up.
    youre easing into your old habits moron
    the point of keeping off weight is accepting your new caloric intake permanently
    stop being so fucking retarded

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    salted caramel is a shit flavour for nonces

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    skip breakfast
    small lunch
    big evening meal
    2 scoops ice cream

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chocolate maybe, but ice cream is the fucking worst. I can eat a huge meal to the point where I would feel sick eating another mouthful of food, but then I can still suck down another 800cal of ice cream no problems.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Meal prep 6 days, 7th day for cheat day.

  11. 1 month ago
    Emperor Spacelifts

    Vegan ice cream, microwaved burritos, AND slipknot

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Small amounts of dark chocolate are actually good for you

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it actually possible to fit things like chocolate and ice cream into a normal functioning diet?
    Yes, you just have to do your cardio.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lmao did you run a half marathon or some shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he must have a lot of time on his hands. i can only fit in an hour of cardio a day and even doing high intensity I'm lucky to burn 500 cals if i push non stop.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ease up
    No, asshole. See, you just do these things now. There is no "do this for a set amount of time and you're good" scenario. You live the way healthy people live, or you don't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Healthy people don't count calories and restrict whole food groups

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Some literally do. They're weird to me, but there's no denying they're in good shape.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Some of them do. Some of them don't, but they are generally active people who exercise regularly and make healthy food choices.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I either go hard on fasting or low carb
    > gets in shape every 1-2 years with autistic tier calorie counting to drop 20+kgs then gains it all back the second I ease up.

    Yeah because you are not learning a long term sustainable approach to dieting. You need to learn to new permanent habits to remain at your new weight. You don't learn to do that when you do retard shit like fasting and low carb or whatever shit you try. If you had been doing CICO you would know by now that yes its 100% entirely possible to have a chocolate and ice cream in your diet. But you never learned that because your retard fucking fasting low carb fad diet shit.

    CICO works, if you been autistic about counting calories then you should this by now. Do a CICO 50% carb, 25% fat, 25% protein or whatever fits, enjoy getting leaner, enjoy having some chokolate and ice cream in your diet while hitting your daily calories.

    Like what the fuck you doing? "CICO dosn't work" ?! yes it does

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why don't you opt for low calorie options there are alot of them now but more expensive or try those recipes where you blend your own. ice cream and chocolate is basically dense high calorie liquid food that is not satiating at all if you're a fat fuck you should track how much you eat

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    and its so normal for people to gain back their weight after they are done with dieting because they start relaxing. You got to keep counting calories for ever and you got to keep weighting your self. Without these measures like 90+% gain back their weight over time. When you get consistent with it and do it for a long time you can relax and only count calories on some days instead of every day, but its something you are going to have to stick with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you got to keep weighting your self
      this is the way. it's impossible to gain 20kg if you weigh yourself daily. when you gain this much there's usually a lot of DENIAL involved. regularly weighing yourself keeps you honest and accountable.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just fast for at least 2 days before or after you consume a ton of shit. On sunday I consume like 4-6k calories of shit and I don't eat monday and tuesday. I do 45-60 mins of cardio 5 days a week and I lift. I even lose weight through this method.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it actually possible to fit things like chocolate and ice cream into a normal functioning diet?
    no, candy isnt supposed to be part of your diet, youre an adult. they are occasional treats. so are liquid calories, like soda
    t. never been even slightly fat

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >routinely fights biology and gets in shape every 1-2 years with autistic tier calorie counting to drop 20+kgs then gains it all back the second I ease up
    are you me?
    i get absolutely jacked and shredded at 80kg and then at some point stop lifting and start eating garbage, balloon up to nearly 100kg. the disappointed look on people's faces....

    i think it's important to figure out why you get complacent and let yourself go, and fix the issue. for me, i usually get super motivated when i'm single, but then eventually i find myself in a long term relationship, and even though i don't >lift for girls, i still just become lazy and after a while it spirals out of control. i look like shit and feel like shit and obviously my relationship turns to shit as well because i turn into a depressed bum, then I'm single again, next thing you know I'm counting those calories...

    I was just never able to properly maintain long term. I don't blame biology, i blame lack of willpower

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >i usually get super motivated when i'm single, but then eventually i find myself in a long term relationship, and even though i don't >lift for girls, i still just become lazy and after a while it spirals out of control
      A story told since the first morning sun shone on IST and it citizens

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        how do we avoid this fate bros

        i actually thought about going to therapy for this specific thing.

        I can't keep yo-yoing all the time. At some point I'm worried that i'll have loose skin and my physique will be permanently ruined

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I just broke free from that curse recently. What worked for me was getting into a routine and being super strict about. From past mistakes i learned if i gave myself any leeway the whole diet and routine would crumble. Also helps that my gf finally understands why i have to be so strict and autistic to get into shape and now she doesn't give me shit about it. Before she used to complain about me being too "strict" on my diet since it would limit the places we could eat together and she thought it wasn't a big deal if i broke my diet for a meal. I sometimes gave in to please her and eventually it became the norm. Now none of those things happen so I'm free from any distractions.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CICO people will tell you yes, and they are technically right. But in practice, you'd be eating so little chocolate and ice cream (and dealing with sugar crashes) you'd be hungry and feel like shit all the time - hungrier than if you ate something healthy.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can eat as much as you like and whatever you like if you burn enough calories. I drink coke and eat ice cream almost every single day yet I'm nowhere near overweight because I also run around 10 km a day

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