Lifting is pointless without steroids.

Lift to get this body. 1 year of lifting look shitty.

Someone tells me to bulk. Another year of lifting went from 160 lbs to 188 lbs. Double chin, just look fat.

Cut down to 170 lbs. Still just fat.

Later found out you need to do steroids to get a decent body.

All the tiktokers, all the celebrity actors, all the athletes, all the fitness youtubers, they just do steroids.

You will never have a decent body without steroids.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried lifting weights

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I have advanced lifts according to my weight on a lot of lifts i.e. OHP, bench press, deadlift and squat.

      Doesn't even matter through as it just steroids at the end of the day.

      Literally, lifting is a fucking joke and waste of time. Should have done steroids like the 18 year old tiktokers are doing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What does advanced mean. Is it manlet mischief? Bodyweight proportional trickery?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post lifts, we'll be the judge

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post the numbers gay, u can't just say you're advanced and leave it at that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I highly doubt you’re lifting in the advanced range if you are retarded enough to post a thread like this. Post your lifts and your body.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/1MNgzA6.jpg

        Lift to get this body. 1 year of lifting look shitty.

        Someone tells me to bulk. Another year of lifting went from 160 lbs to 188 lbs. Double chin, just look fat.

        Cut down to 170 lbs. Still just fat.

        Later found out you need to do steroids to get a decent body.

        All the tiktokers, all the celebrity actors, all the athletes, all the fitness youtubers, they just do steroids.

        You will never have a decent body without steroids.

        >advanced lifter
        >still hasn't realized hypertrophy and strength training result in different looks
        >continues to focus on strength when you clearly want hypertrophy like movie actors
        epic

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You will never have a decent body without steroids.
    Yes you can lmao, go fuck yourself shill
    Dubs and OP dies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dubs and op ropes himself
      >captcha: kysop

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dubs and OPs entire family dies in a house fire

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dubs and OP takes steroids and dies a year later

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      roll

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Digits and op gets anal probed by aliens from planet fitness

    • 2 months ago
      Giddy

      Dubs and op never gets gains, even with roids

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck op

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry OP

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Roll. Fuck op

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dubs and OP gets addicted to drinking cyst juice

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll kill her myself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      dubs and op is gnomish

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rolling for

      [...]

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      roll

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kys OP fraud

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rollerino

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Check out these dubs. RIP op

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      dubs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd rather just steal gay OP's gains like that other image says, but seeing as how OP has no gains...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rollan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we can take him town keep trying

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doing my part

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      COME ON FUCK OP

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      roll

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rolling

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based op dies if dubs poster

      https://i.imgur.com/1MNgzA6.jpg

      Lift to get this body. 1 year of lifting look shitty.

      Someone tells me to bulk. Another year of lifting went from 160 lbs to 188 lbs. Double chin, just look fat.

      Cut down to 170 lbs. Still just fat.

      Later found out you need to do steroids to get a decent body.

      All the tiktokers, all the celebrity actors, all the athletes, all the fitness youtubers, they just do steroids.

      You will never have a decent body without steroids.

      You are poisoned by social media. Watch natural hypertrophy and fix your life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ROLLING

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Still havent gotten dubs?! We might need trips if this doesnt dub

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      DUBS AND OP DIES

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      DUBS AND OP EATS SHIT AND DIES

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Checkem

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      DIE ALREADY

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      C'mon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      DIEEEEEEE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP won't die because he's right.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let me be clear so theres no a shadow of doubt about my intention with this message, it is exactly as it reads with no other interpretation or second meanings:

    have a nice day.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How can one post have so much cringe?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because it is written by a chemically castrated man.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because it was made by a 15-year-old dyel.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Has to be, even just loosing weight makes lifting worthwhile, shit op nobodys telling you that you have to be a pro lifter.

        >Complains about his lacking physique
        >Thinks it's because he's natty
        >Gets confronted about it
        >Turns out it's because he doesn't know how to train

        Like clockwork.

        This, its laziness.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Demorilization threads should be banned.

    Try harder

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not making a demorilization thread. Just telling the truth. Without steroids you don't get a nice body.

      I can squat 4 plates.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you need to roid to look like someone who roids
        Nice one OP, what a revelation

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe without steroids YOU don't get a nice body lol. I certainly did. Maybe try sticking to a program, diet accordingly, and drinking water/sleeping and you might just see some results.

        I don't know you, but I am assuming by your post that you are a weak minded individual and you just want an echo chamber of "Oh working out is so hard we should just roid up so we can see progress faster."

        I'm going to tell you how it is. It isn't looking good or moving a bunch of weight that makes someone great, true greatness is found in the pursuit of progress. Did you do better than last time? Congrats you're greater than you were before.

        We are all on the same journey, walking the same road. So when you say that the road can't be walked, we know you're lying because we're walking on it.

        Also, you still need to put in work while on roids. You'll prolly take them and come back to this board saying they made you fat with man tits.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn I'm sorry for you bro. I've been lifting for 4 months and I look completely different. I literally look so fucking fit by normie standards

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          delusional unless you also lost a fuckton of weight

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you tried training like a bodybuilder instead of a powerlifter?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's the difference?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Accumulate training volume weekly, hit every muscle you want to grow 2-3 times a week, treat your isolation work as seriously as your compounds, eat, sleep, repeat.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Volume, mother fucker. Drop the ego and lower the weights, and increase volume. Chase the pump.

              Also, starve yourself.

              So treat it like kind of a resistance training?

              >Complains about his lacking physique
              >Thinks it's because he's natty
              >Gets confronted about it
              >Turns out it's because he doesn't know how to train

              Like clockwork.

              I'm not the person you were talking to.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Weightlifting in and of itself is resistance training, but I think I get what you're saying. Check out Geoffrey Verity Schofield, Natural Hypertrophy or Basement Bodybuilding on YT if you want to learn more.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How delusional.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Volume, mother fucker. Drop the ego and lower the weights, and increase volume. Chase the pump.

            Also, starve yourself.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Complains about his lacking physique
            >Thinks it's because he's natty
            >Gets confronted about it
            >Turns out it's because he doesn't know how to train

            Like clockwork.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no no no.... just NO this was NOT ME i am OP and i had nothing to do with this comment.
            i train strength training not like a fucking powerlifter

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/oI35Ojk.jpg

          Accumulate training volume weekly, hit every muscle you want to grow 2-3 times a week, treat your isolation work as seriously as your compounds, eat, sleep, repeat.

          https://i.imgur.com/BEDygkz.jpg

          Weightlifting in and of itself is resistance training, but I think I get what you're saying. Check out Geoffrey Verity Schofield, Natural Hypertrophy or Basement Bodybuilding on YT if you want to learn more.

          >posts guys in steroids
          can't wait for summer to end

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        do you have any friends who lift OP?

        Cause I do and I know several with sculpted bodies who look just like the pic you posted and who are completely natty

        if you aren't seeing results then you're doing something wrong

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bro seriously did SS and is mad he doesn’t look like the pic he posted

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fat squatcel who has no idea how to train needs steroids to look good
        Imagine my shock.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree, this is just /b/ summerfag posting on other boards

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      are you a liberal?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >188 lbs. Double chin
    lol dude stop being a manlet

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The last two digits of my post shall indicate the amount of times OP gets stabbed by a homeless person.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the last two digits on my post determine how many people walk past him before he gets help/noticed after being stabbed 63 times

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I take steroids and been told I look like Hemsworth before
    Im better than you. You will never know how it feels to be me

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Posting is pointless without a cock up your ass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is why fags are getting thrown off buildings.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting to look like people on steroids is pointless. Lifting to be healthy and lean (optional for bloatfags) and capable is the whole point.
    Now fuck off with your retarded demoralization thread.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >All the tiktokers, all the celebrity actors, all the athletes, all the fitness youtubers, they just do steroids
    while this is true, you can also get a decent body natty. a good example of natty potential is alan thrall when he cut, and the brofessor. both look good and are relatively lean
    I do agree though that you won't be roid-big natty, that's why strength training makes more sense for nattys. Roiding still has no point though, since you'll either stop roiding and immediately lose all your gains or blast and cruise your way to an early grave

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    gay mindset.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you stupid fucks keep making these cope threads? Dude, I don't care if you want to roid. Go fucking roid. You want validation from me? You won't get it, I think roiding is ridiculous unless you're an actual athlete or soldier or something. If you're just interested in lifting and being healthy and have a normal job, it's fucking dumb. That said if you want to do it then just do it. Be dumb. Inject yourself with an AIDS needle and shoot up heroin. I don't care. Just stop making these stupid threads, you insecure moron.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The most honest and humane response I have seen on botchan. Holy shit. OP utterly fucking "FUCKED".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. I don't care about your blackpilled blogposts, stop posting them.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lifting is pointless without steroids.
    lol ok retard

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >1 year of lifting look shitty.

    You're a fucking retard if you think you can get a decent physique in 1 year of natty lifting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can if you're starting lean and are young, late teens/early 20s.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP dishing out facts for a change.

    You want to get big and shredded you gotta pay the price

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lifting is pointless without steroids.
    >posts a picture of Chris when he was feasibly natural still
    Based on how he blew up with the roids for Love and Thunder he was natural in the original Thor.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he was natural in the original thor

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You must lift to post here.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You must be fat to post here

          Corrected

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not that guy but you are the delusional dyel newfag here

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fitness and good health are their own rewards OP.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lifting is pointless without genetics.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting natty isn’t pointless if you like lifting heavy things an putting them back down for the sole purpose of entertainment…

    Also if you don’t care about chicks liking your body or getting admiration from everyone around you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cope. I lift for fun and over time I actually started looking good. You have to love it if you want to get a good physique naturally though because it's just as much work in the gym but less work outside of the gym when you're on roids.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf did you even try to say with your incoherent post?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >roid chud reading comprehension
          It was very clear what he said you tard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cope. I lift for fun and over time I actually started looking good

        Same. I enjoy the process, and I'm starting to nail it down. 8 months in and I already get mires.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >”it's just as much work in the gym but less work outside of the gym when you're on roids.”

        I’m going to have to assume you mean roiders don’t need to diet, but that is utter bullshit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nope. Roiders don't need perfect sleep or perfect micronutrient rich diets to get optimal hormone levels.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this, theyre literally injecting it into their ass cheek. they dont need to worry about factors influencing their T levels

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s also bullshit, you DO need a perfect recovery and diet for the gear to do its magic, you would know this if you juiced.

            The only difference is you get more results if on gear, but you need to follow the same process to get them

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're just wrong though. Your sleep does not need to be as good when you're on gear and you don't need to worry about your micronutrients you might be missing because you're not relying on endogenous hormone production. Factors aside from just your big 3 macronutrients are not a big factor for building muscle when you take away the need for natural hormone production.
              For example, look at the dudes who say they've blasted Tren and got bigger than ever but couldn't sleep for shit. Now tell me again you still need your sleep to be Perfect to make gains on roids. It's just not the reality.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >perfect recovery
              >for the gear to do its magic
              This has to be bait right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I lift for fun and over time I actually started looking good.
        good for you. roidtrannies on here will cry and say its impossible due to their intense body image issues, but you can actually look great with a bit of dedication as a natty.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That is very relative to your natural hormone levels. If you are naturally low T with a high E2 conversion rate your are pretty much fucked without gear.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That is nature's way of telling a man, hey subhuman, don't breed, we don't need more faglets like you. Injecting foreskin juice up your veins will never change that.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s basically true. It can be done but it takes so much dedication that it’s not worth it. I know people who are 100% dedicated who look great, but at the same time I know guys who Roid and they look bigger and better with half the effort

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    post body
    post lifts

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If this isnt a disinfo shill thread, its just because your mind has been warped by all the propaganda in films and social media of roided bodies. Peak natties look really good and dont have any of the side effects of roiding

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its not being the biggest on instagram, its about being the biggest in the room.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eat more milk, drink more meat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You got it backwards. its eat more drink, milk more meat.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Without steroids it takes 2 years to get a good body and 4 years to get a great body. With steroids it'll take less than a year for a great body.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >1 year of lifting

    What on God's green Earth made you think looking like that takes only a year?

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Really OP
    I think I looked pretty good my last true cut

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gawt damn them lats. You look like a frilled lizard bro

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I was mistaken in thinking I could become Chris Hemsworth in 1 year
    >this must be everybody else's fault

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they just do steroids.
    and workout and diet - they can't stop whining about "how hard" it was, how demanding

    AND - they stop doing all that first chance they get and start their liberal lifestyle of drugs gluttony and inactivity yet again

    AND - they are selected group of individuals and selected specifically to look good

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so considering all the end-s it is possible to be fit in some capacity year round natty

      u won't be looking like hemsworth though - u ain't lanked that dabbed into gear at very young age and stuck with it are ya?

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point of this kind of thread?
    If you don't want to do it that's fine but don't bring that negative energy around.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    same anon, i just stopped eating and dropped to 10%, i look 100x better that when i lifted

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: People posting black and white photos of top 1% genetics naturals

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lifting under 5 years
    >"I do not look like Cris Hemsworth :("
    NO SHIT. LMAO. BUILDING MUSCLE TAKES TIME

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Singles and OP gets even fatter and loses his gains after his cycle.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is but it unironically takes 10+ years. Every single guy that I know in real life that look good, genuinely impressive not 3 month lifter and I hear and talk about their sports background, it's 15 years of ice hockey then 10-15 years of lifting.

    It's just that 99,999% of the people haven't and can't commit to that long. People keep throwing the "achievable in 2-3 years" if not just 1 year but it's just a dead giveaway of people high on babby gain euphoria after lifting for 4 months. You absolutely can looking fucking great as a natural, even better than some roiders posting their cycle results on reddit. The difference is just that it's unironically a lifelong commitment and 10-15 years. You won't get there in 2-3 years. And you won't get there in 6 months like roiders do. So that's the "black pill".

    If your ultimate goal is to look like Jeff Seid and bang as many girls as you can while still in the university yeah you need to take steroids. If you are not in a hurry and you are virgin and doing it "for yourself" then no it is not pointless to lift without steroids.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I ask for that haircut?

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I have one regret in life it's that I tried steroids. They fucked up my body permanently.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    15 months of homegym with dumbbells only. 60 to 75kg. 6"0'
    Could be better, but also be worse. Atleast I'm not trying to find excuses like OP.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No you don't. You just need dedication, a good diet, and good training. Don't bulk more than 2-3lbs a month either or you'll 100% just get fat

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this isn't really true but jesus christ go take steroids already holy shit anon. Complain some more

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Agree
    I will start roiding soon because I guess I reached pretty much my natty limit @ 6'0 195lbs and it's very underwhelming tbqh senpai

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