>mankind ate meat, eggs, dairy for 10,000 years. >every one is fine. >no climate change

>mankind ate meat, eggs, dairy for 10,000 years
>every one is fine
>no climate change
>suddenly study shows they are le bad for health and le climate change
>people actually fall for it
You didn't fall for it, right anon?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I will never fall for it, Anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shillydiggy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gab
      just looked. why would anyone want to use social media that is literally nothing but right wing political posts? IST is about as close to social media as I like to get let alone removing all interesting content and making it entirely political

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kys tourist

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The real problem is the fact that we're being literally showered and bombarded and analled by microplastics.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does this look like a natural density of bovines to you, anon?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yea

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Now post a picture of a herd when it's not moving.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There's a fuckton of them.
          Bovines are super sustainable, instead of farming garbage like wheat and corn we should just breed super grass and let the cows roam free
          It'd be kinoworld

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Based. Cows are amazing. It's no wonder pajeets worship cows

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Except I honor them by eating them, and doing great things with the protein and micronutrients it provides me with.
              I WILL honor the cows by being great!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The African buffalo is listed as Near threatened by the IUCN, with a decreasing population of 400,000 individuals
            >There are 94 million cows in the US
            Then you add to equation that Africa fits four USA's.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There's few of them because the enverionment was reduced and they are also hunted.
              >94 million cows in the US
              Like the other anons said about that many bison in the US before they were all hunted. Not counting deer and other creatures

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The American bison (Bison bison) is a species of bison native to North America. population in excess of 60 million in the late 18th century
                Not 90 million.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Google says at least 30 million, close enough clearly it's not the cows that make or break it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You forget the 0,000s years humans were in North America before records began.
                Pre modern humans culled many large animals, a lot of them to extinction

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There used to be 100 million Bison in North America before humans hunted them to near extinction. Same with other megafauna on other continents

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The buffy like to snuggle each other 🙂

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          very cute 😀

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like they're being artificially kept apart so they can't follow their herd instincts. Probably to please leftist trannies who think cows are strong independent animals who don't need no herd.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      monocropping.jpg
      See, I can do the same thing for farming. You're right, that photo is an example of industrial scale food production that is unnatural. We should reject feed lot cattle operations just as we should reject monocropping farms and all forms of processed food.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed, monocropping is incredibly harmfull to the genetic diversity of fruits and veges and makes them hyper vulnerable to any sort of virus/plague/wtf it is that decimates crops.
        Its why oranges now don't taste the same as they did when I was a kid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In the 1800s there were millions and millions of Buffalo roaming the American Great Plains. We killed almost all of them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Then they almost went extinct while being protected by law, until it was allowed to farm them for meat. Now over half a million of buffaloo population exists again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there were more wild buffaloes in the USA before europeans arrived than domesticated cattle today
      Why are you an ignorant, uneducated, retarded dumb gay?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bovines aren't kept like this in my country, they have way more space and actual grass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Too much indians and chinks on this planet. Remove all the immigrants and elders from europe and you will solve "climate" change

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Indians
        How many Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, or Buddhists do you see eating beef, bro? It’s illegal to slaughter cows in India, that’s not who’s packing cattle like that lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >How many Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, or Buddhists do you see eating beef, bro?
          2.8 billion street shitters fart more CO2 into the atmosphere than all the cows on the planet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bovines transform grass into the healthiest food for humans there is. they also don't damage biodiversity.
      but instead they decided to ruin most of the fertile, biodiverse land with fragile corn and s*y that needs GMO and pesticides to survive, just to feed said cattle with this crap instead of just leaving them to graze grass that requires no maintenance, fertilizer or pesticides

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can't feed the amount of cows by just letting them dilly dally on green gables which is exactly why they farm soi to them all the way in Brazilian rainforests. What you're looking at there is a industrial pasture. That's where your pasture raised

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You can't feed the amount of cows by just letting them dilly dally on green gables
          You can, easily. It's just not done because keeping them all cooped up and giving them söy is much easier, cheaper and logistically feasible

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No you can't because pastures, even when mostly shitty cramped pastures like that picture, already take this much area yet even so the most meat comes from factory farms with even higher densities than what passes as pasture.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              lol stop thinking about globalization you clown, that's the fucking problem.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You can't feed the amount of cows by just letting them dilly dally on green gables
            Yes you can, it's just far less profitable. Stop using so much land to farm useless shit and employ a shit ton of farmers.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Most of that land is useless as anything else than pasture. Nothing in your graph says it can't fit more cows (because it definitely can).
              It's just more profitable to grow garbage GMO crops to feed cows in factories than let them graze in the grass and grow slower.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So this is bad because...?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It wouldn't be possible without million of tons irreplaceable natural gas.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you need irreplacable natural gas to eat chicken and cow
                ???

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This graph is retarded, the "100 largest landowning families" is going to overlap with other parts of the graph, unless they stop counting it as "private family timberland" or "corporate timberland" or "pasture/range" or whatever just because one of those 100 families owns it. But since there's no source we have no way to figure out what they mean.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You can't feed the amount of cows by just letting them dilly dally on green gables
          Yes you can, it's just far less profitable. Stop using so much land to farm useless shit and employ a shit ton of farmers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You absolutely can, though the animals need a directed grazing path for regenerative agriculture. Multiple types of animals, too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but instead they decided to ruin most of the fertile, biodiverse land with fragile corn and s*y that needs GMO and pesticides to survive, just to feed said cattle with this crap instead of just leaving them to graze grass that requires no maintenance, fertilizer or pesticides
        Human population can not support any form of animal agriculture apart from factory farming at this point.

        The problem is humans just kept fucking and are too selfish to quit. Don't worry they're gonna fix that too. See, they view you as the very same cattle that we factory farm. And they decided to cull the herd. That's what the vaccine is about. Hope you were smart enough to refuse or you dun goofed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Uninportant, but to answer your question: this is what happens when you have an overspecialized workforce and landowning is gate-kept by prohibitive pricing and undeveloped infrastructure, but you wouldn't understand. Would you prefer if these cows were spread apart to millions of Americans? Or are you trying to imply that meat is actually le bad because there's a lot of them in that picture?

      bovines transform grass into the healthiest food for humans there is. they also don't damage biodiversity.
      but instead they decided to ruin most of the fertile, biodiverse land with fragile corn and s*y that needs GMO and pesticides to survive, just to feed said cattle with this crap instead of just leaving them to graze grass that requires no maintenance, fertilizer or pesticides

      Farmed cattle actually are fed mainly silage, hay, agricultural waste and a small part fodder depending on milk production. There is absolutely no need to specifically plant crops just for cattle.
      >instead of just leaving them to graze grass that requires no maintenance, fertilizer or pesticides
      it needs some maintenance and fertilizer if you wanna increase yield and to keep the integrity of the pasture

      You can't feed the amount of cows by just letting them dilly dally on green gables which is exactly why they farm soi to them all the way in Brazilian rainforests. What you're looking at there is a industrial pasture. That's where your pasture raised

      >You can't feed the amount of cows by just letting them dilly dally on green gables
      You absolutely can, and you only need fodder for dairy cattle
      >What you're looking at there is a industrial pasture
      You're talking out of your ass. You can even see the feeding troughs on the sides of the roads. These jersey cows are grouped together by rate of milk production to automate feed rationing.

      Funnily enough that's exactly the kind of argumentation chinks and pajeets say to keep using coal
      >but muh whitey used it for 100 years before us and we still have lower carbon footprint per capita than whiteys
      so they got a free pass from UN until 2060

      >so they got a free pass from UN until 2060
      because the goal is the deindustrialization of all White countries.

      So this is bad because...?

      because modern agriculture is more damaging to the soil than literally covering it with salt, you are fucking ignorant to what is happening, zero microfauna, rapidly depleting nitrogen deposits, lack of micronutrients, etc, etc.

      Would still not make soil erosion and waterway pollution in USA and Europe caused by animal agriculture go away.

      soil erosion and waterway pollution in USA and Europe are caused by irrigation and minimal soil coverage, not by cows

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And that's bad because...?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry, i didn't know i was talking to a hatchling

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think you misunderstood my post. Cows are part of "food we eat". What's wrong with having a lot of land dedicated to "food we eat"?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >why does it matter?
            >Why do you care about this?

            Coming from someone who used to get mad when other people asked me this, those questions are actually legitimate. All of the absolute useless pieces of knowledge you have is just that, useless. You're just addicted to information, which functionally, most of it is useless, because you'll never use it, except maybe when arguing with someone who ultimately doesn't give a shit and will just argue with you for the sake of it. It is, in fact, a colossal waste of time. If you took all the time you spent reading about stuff that you can't change, and instead worked at stuff you can change, you'd be a much more well rounded person. Most people don't have real convictions or opinions based off fact anyway, they have loose convictions that change with circumstances and their opinions are led by their emotions first, not facts. In a world where facts and logic rule, ok, then it's worth it to champion information just for the sake of it. But we don't live in that world. So why do it? I can cope and make up excuses, but when you look deeper at those reasons, it's just that, cope.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You are fully aware these questions are always used disingenuously. If we were having a debate and you hit me with apathy, that is the end of the discussion. You close yourself off from it by repeatedly going "ok, and?". A smart man might try to educate his opponent and explain his position in everincreasing detail till he tires himself out, but an intelligent man disengages brcause he knows he's dealing with bad faith.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Different anon, but doesn't that make you unintelligent, given that you're one of the fags ruining this entire board by spamminh 20 of these threads a day.

                Kinda a based level of self awareness. I hope the pizza guy stuff sticks, I like the boxing threads a lot. we need less underaged larpers pretending to be farmers in here it's getting tiresome now.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I reject your hypothesis

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know. I'm simply trying to dissect your own hypothesis. You're already inherently arguing from a position of bad faith. In a board where probably 90% of the users hate vegans or are indifferent, on a thread that is clearly pro-farm larp and anti-agricultural. Any science or research that does not align with you is inherently wrong, only your research and science is the good stuff.

                Caught within an echo chamber, with no real opposing position to go against you, your entire platform is a bad faith argument. Any stragglers or outsiders that may try to lay a foundation are laid out by default because they're inherently not part of the in-group. So what is the point of these threads, other than self-wankery? They serve no educational purpose, they aren't really fantastic bait threads since most users agree at least with the initial premise. They aren't convincing anyone of anything, nor arguing anything. They're entirely propoganda and masturbatory in nature.

                This bad faith, and thus as the propogator of those threads you are an unintellegent man. So am I, I suppose. According to your definition, since I engage with them like once or twice a month if they get past my filters before adding new keywords.

                Anyways cheers amerifat friend, I probs won't come back to this thread because it's gay. Wagmi, just stop being such a gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am not OP, retard

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >because modern agriculture is more damaging to the soil than literally covering it with salt, you are fucking ignorant to what is happening, zero microfauna, rapidly depleting nitrogen deposits, lack of micronutrients, etc, etc.
        You seem to know more about farming than me, care to explain in more detail how we're fucking up?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Let me break it down to you to make it more digestible
          >1. Irrigation
          A lot of plants - due to the desire to everincrease yield - need irrigation. The problem with it is, how it affects water movement in the soil. If you have a lot of water travelling downwards through infiltration, all the water-soluble nutrients (and CaCO3 and clay) will go with it. What happens then? The roots won't reach the nutrients and the structure of soil will degrade slowly but surely, and i haven't started to talk about deflation, erosion and runoff.
          >2. Nutrients
          To offset the missing nutrients (by irrigation and/or harvest), you need fertilizer. We won't use piss and shit because there's appr. 7-10 m/m% N in it, compared to 34% in ammonium nitrate which is way more economic in terms of fuel usage. Anyway, these little fuckers use so much NPK that you'll deplete almost all reserves within 3 years! Your land will become unusable if you don't drown it in chemicals.
          >3. -icides
          Kills stuff, lots of collateral, 6 million critters dead every time. 'nuff said.
          >4. Disturbing the soil
          Boring the ground at least twice every year is not healthy. You heard about the dust bowl? Yeah, that was the reason. Kills lots of underground animals aswell.
          >5. Super resistant weed
          >6. Zero biodiversity
          Etc.
          In short, growing plants is damaging, but it's damage that is not televised.

          I gotta go to sleep man, i was planning to go early but i had to write this down. Good nite!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for explaining all this to me! Good night 🙂

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Thank you for your effortpost.
              Sleep well

              Good morning sirs, i'm back

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for your effortpost.
            Sleep well

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NOOOOO!!! It's super sustainable!!!! You're supposed to talk about how COWS ARE BAD!!! 50 cents have NOT been deposited in your account! Greta will be on the phone with you shortly!

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's how the sorghum and corn which feeds the cows is grown, dumbass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks that's the standard

      Actually, most of the time they are put into 'gestation crates'.

      They can't move an inch or turn around their entire lives. The only thing they can do is eat the GMO corn, soi, microplastic-laced "feed" (industrial food trash), or literal plastic pellets they feed them.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The world population has exploded around the world due to capitalism and cheap fossil fuels, we're almost to 8 billion "people". Subsistence farming is no longer how a majority of people get their food.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the answer isn't to be a cuck, the answer is war and violence

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the answer isn't to be a cuck
        That's cute, but I think we know what the West will choose.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Obviously, which will result in a slow and painful death of the west
          That's why I support immigration and black people having children, the sooner the west dies, the quicker it can recover

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think the future is CRISPR-edited Han supermen exterminating the races they consider inferior and laying claim to what's left of the Earth's resources.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              more likely everyone becomes a subhuman mutant shitskin and chimps out and annihilates eachother

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A permanent dark age with a global population under 2 billion is the most likely outcome, yes

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There weren't 8 billion shitters. But of course only Europe and America needs to stop reproducing,

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >multiply like rabbits
      >live in pod
      >make yourself miserable
      >destroy the world
      why are Asians like this?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is it like with chickens where they actually have less stress when they are kept in small cages really close to one another?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there's 8,000,000,000 (3/4 of which are morons)

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s about the mass production of those products and how buying them incentivizes the meat industry to continue their production techniques (ie. Factory farming). Meat is way less scarce and way more consumed than it was in the past and global human population is 100s of times higher than it was just 500 years in the past.

    If people just hunted for their meat instead and had their own livestock, meat/egg consumption wouldn’t be a problem. However, it’s much more convenient to not do that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bot post

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Everything I said was true. I’m not even necessarily saying I agree with their belief that people should eat less meat to fight climate change, I was just explaining how the situation we find ourselves in today is entirely different from thousands of years ago.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          bot post

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > 100s of times
      Meant 10s of times

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Strange how the united states population keeps rising

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yet their CO2 emissions keeps lowering

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >pay other countries to do carbon intensive tasks for you
          did you not know this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meat offers a disproportionately high amount of nutrients and calories compared to plants. Animals can be raised on non-arid lands too. You aren't going to feed and keep healthy a large population without it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The meat itself? Yeah
        But a single pound of meat requires around 2,5 pounds of food for the animal, as well as a whopping 100l liters of water
        And don’t get me wrong, I love meat and I won’t stop eating it, but realistically, the average dude with a desk job doesn’t need to eat a Mongolian warrior larp diet

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a whopping 100l liters of water
          >soijack.jpg

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do you perchance know what happens with water drunk by animals? Is it destroyed at a molecular level? No, it's peed out, soaked into the soil from which it rises up as vapour and falls down as rain. It may be hard to believe, but rain is partly made of pee. Also, have fun eating the 2,5 pounds of grass that the bovine would have eaten to provide you with meat.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fresh water levels are declining, and last time I checked drinking cow piss wasn’t exactly healthy

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Declining in the underground reservoirs used primarly to facilitate monocrop farms of corn and grain, yes. Might want to stop planting water-hungry crops there and instead have some native grass grazers instead.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Most of that 100l of water comes in the form of rain water...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >NOOOOO BUT MY HECKING CARNIVORE BASED TRAD MEAT SUPPLY IS FLOOFING JUST BYPRODUCTS AND 100 PERCENT BASED AND SUSTAINABALE WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT COWS USE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES FOR MINIMAL CALORIES NOOOOOO

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Animals are fed inedible waste which they turn into edible food. The output is greater than the input.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Animals are fed inedible waste which they turn into edible food. The output is greater than the input.
            And it accumulates in their tissues, poisoning both them and you. Good job fucking monkey ape gorilla retards.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >2,5 pounds of food for the animal,
          Last time I checked, humans can't digest raw, uncooked grains.
          >as well as a whopping 100l liters of water
          Most of this water literally falls from the sky. And it gets pissed out a few hours later.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Animals can be raised on non-arid lands too.
        You can raise sheep on steep hillsides and mountains where nothing but grass and pine grows. They are quite indifferent to the quality of the grass, it is an efficient use of terrain
        >You aren't going to feed and keep healthy a large population without it.
        This.

        The meat itself? Yeah
        But a single pound of meat requires around 2,5 pounds of food for the animal, as well as a whopping 100l liters of water
        And don’t get me wrong, I love meat and I won’t stop eating it, but realistically, the average dude with a desk job doesn’t need to eat a Mongolian warrior larp diet

        >But a single pound of meat requires around 2,5 pounds of food for the animal,
        Guess where the food comes from? I'll give you a hint, humans grow it, but they won't eat it.
        >as well as a whopping 100l liters of water
        And that water either filters into underground water-reservoirs through the soil (which is beneficial) or evaporates into the atmosphere (which is a non-issue). Now compare this to crop irrigation. You got a holocaust-icide laden plot of land (because your 1000 hectare monocrop plot is perfect breeding ground for pests and weeds) which gets irrigated by rain or you (and i'm not gonna start arguing about freshwater requirement here). What happens to the chemicals, which might be persistent, toxic, carcinogenic, etc.? Crops might slurp it up (in which case you will eat it), it will get into ground water (where it contaminates your water supply, or it might evaporate and fall down with the rain. See the difference?
        >the average dude with a desk job doesn’t need to eat a Mongolian warrior larp diet
        You have no right to tell others what they need, totalitarian.

        Fresh water levels are declining, and last time I checked drinking cow piss wasn’t exactly healthy

        Because of contamination, numbnuts

        No, about 24 percent of emissions are from agriculture, forestryand other associated land use and meat causes a disproportionate amount of those emissions

        What counts as emission?

        >NOOOOO BUT MY HECKING CARNIVORE BASED TRAD MEAT SUPPLY IS FLOOFING JUST BYPRODUCTS AND 100 PERCENT BASED AND SUSTAINABALE WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT COWS USE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES FOR MINIMAL CALORIES NOOOOOO

        >I NEED TO USE BUZZWORDS LIKE IMMENSE TO EMOTIONALLY PRIME YOU INTO ACCEPTING MY VIEWPOINTS

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >And that water either filters into underground water-reservoirs through the soil (which is beneficial) or evaporates into the atmosphere (which is a non-issue). Now compare this to crop irrigation. You got a holocaust-icide laden plot of land (because your 1000 hectare monocrop plot is perfect breeding ground for pests and weeds) which gets irrigated by rain or you (and i'm not gonna start arguing about freshwater requirement here). What happens to the chemicals, which might be persistent, toxic, carcinogenic, etc.? Crops might slurp it up (in which case you will eat it), it will get into ground water (where it contaminates your water supply, or it might evaporate and fall down with the rain. See the difference?
          What you're advocating for would be more labor intensive and lower yield. Which means that millions die because they cannot afford more expensive food.

          The answer comes back to depopulation if we want to maintain the modest (but historically palatial) living standards of even the 1950s US - 1000sqft for a family with electricity, clean water, and abundant food - and a lot more people working full time in agriculture or growing food for themselves. Agriculture tends not to select for the IQ to maintain technological society, but CRISPR gene editing appears to be around the corner.

          A good end would be 4bn people starve to death, the survivors regress to 50s standards of living, and gene-editing keeps the median IQ in the 100s (currently the world IQ is in the mid 80s)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If people hunted for their food, it would be a mass-extinction event.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        for humans

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely untrue.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    almost like they came up with the idea to grab ressources and consolidate power

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Global_Revolution
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome
    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a5t1e/the_club_of_romes_world_government_climatechange/

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you might have a point if only whites existed.
    however, the exponential population growth of the subraces says otherwise.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > subraces

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What else would they be?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >What else would they be

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Subspecies I believe is the term he was looking for.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kill

      yourself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So I need to stop eating milk, eggs and diary because the chinese and indians like to use coal to make energy? Very logical, I'm sure if I go vegan tomorrow everything will be fixed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Funnily enough that's exactly the kind of argumentation chinks and pajeets say to keep using coal
        >but muh whitey used it for 100 years before us and we still have lower carbon footprint per capita than whiteys
        so they got a free pass from UN until 2060

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>but muh whitey used it for 100 years before us and we still have lower carbon footprint per capita than whiteys
          That's dumb as shit, we used coal because there was no other technology available. There are better ways to make energy now.
          >per capita
          Also no one asked them to breed that much so that's their problem.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the methane from livestock pales in comparison to the nitrogen in fertilizer that's used for plants in regards to greenhouse gases

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I shill plant-based diets to normies while eating steak and eggs every day because convincing someone else to give up meat is just as good for the environment as giving it up myself while incurring none of the personal costs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not good for the environment, though. Plant industrial agriculture is every bit as bad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you had me at evil and lost me at good you fuckin gay

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >there were like 50 people total 10000 years ago
    >there's like seventy gorillion people in africa and twice that in china and india
    i dunno bro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >china
      >india
      >africa
      So I must become vegan because of these retards keep? Doesn't really make sense to me. Even if all Westeners die off these regions would probably destroy the environment anyways according to the official narrative.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well yes
        you could simply genocide them all as the other anon suggested but I imagine most of them would be pretty mad about it
        m-muh climate change is the mother of all externalities and coordination problems and made infinitely worse by political classes being unconcerned beyond the short-term in most of the relevant countries. it's pretty much hopeless to even try to solve it so I just have a laugh when the entirety of iberia slowly turns into hell (like right now) or when half of bangladesh suddenly turns into a lake (soon)
        also murrica is far away and xenophobic enough that none of it really matters anyway, so who gives a fuck? rip europe tho

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you considered the following:
    1. Population literally exploded in 100 years going from 1b to 8b
    2. Until 1950 most people would have meat and fish once or twice a week, not twice a day as we do now
    3. Until after ww2 we did not have giga factories/farms growing hundreds of thousands/millions of beasts at the same time in the same place

    Why do we have to spoon feed you retards with basic reasoning that anyone with an IQ above 85 would manage on his own?

    inb4 fuck off vegan, no I eat meet like 6-7 days a week on average

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >genocide the entirety of africa
    >revert chink bugmen and indian streetshitters to their natural state, ie sweatshops with vaguely chicken-like living conditions
    there you go, I solved the issue

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Would still not make soil erosion and waterway pollution in USA and Europe caused by animal agriculture go away.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe in apocalyptic climate change or anything but I think the problem isn't the cultivation of meat, eggs, dairy, it's the cultivation of them on a scale large enough to support 7.5 billion people. There's something like 12 billion chickens in the U.S. alone, that translates to a lot of resources and energy usage just for 1 out of the 3 big livestock animals.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There's something like 12 billion chickens in the U.S. alone
      and I’m goong to eat all of them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nope and never will be gaslit into believing it

        Based

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >bro but this isn’t SUSTAINABLE!!!1
    Look sis, I’m gonna be dead in 60 or so years. Who cares what happens after that?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ate meat, eggs, dairy for 10,000 years
    one is fine
    >>no climate change
    How do you know this? Like, how do you actually know this to be fact?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was revealed to me in a dream

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How do you know this? Like, how do you actually know this to be fact?
      Yeah we have data on how the atmosphere was composed back then.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They constantly change models, narratives and retroactive justifications, and somehow we are supposed to believe they have 10,000 year old climate data? okay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's literally just peak oil and ruined topsoil. Climate change might be fake, but it's definitely gay.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >forgets that intensive farming exists
    Everyone knows smallholdings are basically climate beneficial, but the majority of agriculture is not smallholdings
    >why do these laws always proportionally hurt smallholdings more than factory farms tho?
    1 guess as to who writes the laws.
    These guys don't let a crisis go to waste and the climate crisis is no exception

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >every one is fine
    average age of humans has dramatically gone up, unless your a bible thobbing retard that believes humans used to live for hundreds of years before they were punished by god

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're thinking of Nephalim. Those weren't humans.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >average age of humans has dramatically gone up
      Yeah the average age of humans has gone up back when everyone started eating more animal products because intensive farming made it more available. There are pretty much zero vegan baby boomers and these guys eat the most "unhealthy" meats that exist according to le ebin science.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's about quality of life not pure numbers or a statistics sheet.
      If I live to 72 but I'm healthy and strong and can keep my household safe and intact that's good, but how does spending my 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s as a literal vegetable in a shitty elderly care bed shitting myself to death? Yeah I lived to 90 but the last 20 years of my life have all been a literal hell both for me and my children.

      Those farm animals also probably live longer than in the wild

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wow I'm convinced, my grandparents who are in their 70s and are more fit than all those 35 year old goyslop eating lards were wrong all along. Diary is unnatural, what is natural however is onions milk fresh from mr. goldstein's lab.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        explicitly yes but diary isn't all bad.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're bitching about the climate and your first issues aren't globilisation and mass immigration you're not serious about solving it.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fall for what? The credible scientists over a frogposter who doesn’t want to give up his favorite foods?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he fell for credentialism

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >credible scientists

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mankind also didnt used to keep 30 million bovines alive in factory farms at a single time anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So it's either we go full vegan/eat ze bugz mode or we farm 30 million bovines in intensive factory farms? No in between possible? Also why are they not closing intensive factory farms but are always targetting smaller farms then?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Also why are they not closing intensive factory farms but are always targetting smaller farms then?
        Money

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care. Leave my forests and water and air alone and I don't care. One man and 15 trees will sequester all my carbon dioxide over the year and I can live happily off of solar and wood gas with minimal reliance on grid. I'll hunt or homestead some sheep.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Great thread anon. Really makes the garden gnomes seethe when the truth is blatantly shoved in their faces and is irrefutable. Keep up the good work fren

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i hate the garden gnome. i reject the goy slop and the goyslurp.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >1.3 billion indians
      >1.4 billion chinese
      >1.3 billion africans
      half of this graph are shitholes who breed like retards because le evil white man taught them you can filter water and not have 3/4 of your sons die of illness before they reach adulthood and they don't realize overcrowding the world sucks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Chinese are based. 3 digit IQs and no love for morons. They'll clean up the global gene pool after European sentimentality brings about the end of white civilization.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think the problem is meat or cows, it's more that to produce enough meat we need to feed those animals with a lot of plants which are intensively chemically treated. Today we consume a lot of shit meat we don't need, an average diet probably has a ton of processed meat which is not only bad for health but obviously for the enviroment. nothing wrong with extensive farming. you should eat a large variety of stuff, including meat, but id make sure it's good meat, not some chicken pumped with hormones, fed plastic and grown under a bulb.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no cars and mass production for 10000 years
    >no climate change
    >a lot of cars and factories for 100+ years
    >climate changing
    Is it comprehensible enough for your pea brain?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So it's not the meat, eggs and diary themselves that are the problem? It's as if I was implying that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, about 24 percent of emissions are from agriculture, forestryand other associated land use and meat causes a disproportionate amount of those emissions

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > disproportionate amount of those emissions
          Is there an expected portion of emissions that meat should be causing? Stop using words you don’t know the meaning of.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Billions of humans must die.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ok, why don’t we start with you?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Billions of morons, bugs and pajeets must die.
      FTFY

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >7 billion humans eating meat has more impact than 5 millions
    jeez that's hard to figure out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      greenhouse effect only started being problematic like 50 years ago, we weren't as many by then but still the numbers don't add up. I'm suspecting there might be another cause.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, I swear

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >not eating beef a few times a week will stop global warming
    >not the massive corporations or the massive tankers using enough fuel for a city every day
    >wont do it? we'll just hike the price up ha ha!
    yeah, nah. fuck you. keep rising the price and i'll eat humans instead.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    study shows they are le bad for health and le climate change
    actually fall for it
    The redpill is meat and dairy is absolutely awful for you now and it's because you're eating diseased, poisoned animals pumped full of microplastics.

    See https://youtu.be/Xp0NSIrbu3Y

    >this is what they feed our animals

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The meat industry is shit. You're better off hunting your own foods.

      https://i.imgur.com/GVfKgpL.jpg

      >mankind ate meat, eggs, dairy for 10,000 years
      >every one is fine
      >no climate change
      >suddenly study shows they are le bad for health and le climate change
      >people actually fall for it
      You didn't fall for it, right anon?

      Back then It was probably healthier than today's industrialized garbage society.
      Anon is right

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pigs are the worst off. They are put in these cages for months and end up chewing on the bars. They are fed literal poison and approximately a quarter drop dead from heart attacks before they can be sold as bacon.

    Don't worry, the diseased animals are not put to waste. They are still made into bacon. Or, at the more ethical farms, buried alive (bullets are not economical).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >approximately a quarter drop dead from heart attacks before they can be sold as bacon.
      Source? Sounds unprofitable.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Anyone who has worked with commercial farming knows these videos are selected as the worst of the worst

    Especially at time of death, you want to have the animal be sedated if possible (usually through shock) so it doesn't hurt while suffering, which ruins the quality of the meat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Anyone who has worked with commercial farming knows these videos are selected as the worst of the worst
      Good job outing yourself as a shill for the industry with your first sentence.

      You aren't their brightest are you, retard?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's called transparency

        Do you feel the need to lie to make arguments? :^)

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No I didn't fall for it.
    Eggs are the most bioavailable source of cystine on the planet, nothing even comes close.
    Bioavailability is defined by the ability to absorb a nutrient.
    Cystine is needed to make glutathione, as we get older our bodies continue to make less and less in a vicious cycle where the diminished glutathione damages the organs responsible for making glutathione.
    A single egg has over ten times the amount of cystine than any vegetable on the planet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cystine is the amino acid that causes cancer in excessive amounts.

      Am I the only person here who took a biology class?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        apparently you didn't take biology class.
        because 9/10 people are actually deficient in cystine at one point in their lives.
        That's why cystine is considered conditionally essential.

        Per your argument everything causes cancer in excess.
        It has been proven every single amino acid has a toxicity level. Every single mineral or vitamin has a rate of diminishing returns.
        Take your reddit science back where it belongs with the rest of the morons who never actually researched and just spouted the first bullshit citation they pulled out of their ass when first searching on google.

        Using your logic we shouldn't eat foods with arsenic when arsenic is required for human life.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >because 9/10 people are actually deficient in cystine
          Lmao. You can't link a single study on that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That 9/10 people are deficient in cystine at some point in their lives?
            morons are you fucking retarded?
            It's the leading cause of glutathione not be produced. You want me to post a citation on one of the most documented things in the world?

            by age 40 your gluathione levels will cut in half.
            cystine is the conditionally-essential amino acid that limits gluathione creation.
            That means you are deficient in cystine.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is 9 billion useless fuckers out there with billionares flying thier private jets daily, cooling thier vine cellars and dozens of mansions 365 day a year. They pour chemical waste into rivers and feed you with industrial trash.

    Office and useless government buildings cooled, heated every day of the year.

    Then there are the consooming retards. 2 billions indians. 2 billion chinese. 2 billion Black folks. 2 billion arabs.

    Thats what is going. Way too many humans.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We didn´t have a billion africans eating meat and reducing their forests to a 30% of vegetation anon

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are a lot of surface arguments as to why Veganism is so common now. Like a belief in health fads, because we live in a sick society with sick people, who have sick genes, thinking that just eating healthy will fix their poor genetics or poor society.
    But it goes deeper than this. Veganism is just our Neolithic Farmer Genes breaking out. Before our Patriarchal Pastoralist Indo-European ARYAN Ancestors conquered Europe, it was populated by Matriarchal Communities. Those were destroyed, but we still have their genes.
    The Industrial Revolution put our natural eugenic breeding tendency on its head. The Elite of Society before IR always had more kids than the peasants. This has now been reversed for the last 200 years.
    >Feminism
    >Simps & E-Girls
    >Veganism
    >Witches & Hippy Cults
    All of these are just our dysgenic Neolithic Farmer Genes coming out again.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Terrible bait.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Too many people exist and economic activity is being chased to the detriment of the environment. There is nothing wrong with eating animals

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    industrialized society had to blame something

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No.

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