Martial Arts

I'm 5'7 and 248 lbs. Thinking of getting into martial arts for weight loss and to know how to fight. Is it worth it? I would love Kung Fu.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >know how to fight
    >chink shit
    Pick one and only one.

    Boxing/muay thai + bjj/judo/wrestling.

    Here's a direct student of ip man getting his shit pushed in by a 40 year old low-tier amateur mma guy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why did the kung fu guy opt out of gloves and do palm strikes?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imo fairest way to test this type of fight would be with bare knuckle style wrist wraps. The MMA guy shouldn't be too reliant on his gloves because the gloves give him size + strength boost he naturally wouldn't have if he were using his natural weapons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder at what exact moment he realized his entire life and martial art was a lie and a joke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good for you on wanting to take initiative. You will get there.

      Read

      Pick one standup, one grappling sport. After 6 months, you will ravage the average joe 90% of the time. You will burn tons of calories while (hopefully) having fun and learning something practical. Kung Fu, Taekwondo, Karate, Ninjutsu, Wing Chun are all complete bullshit and will fail you on the calorie burning front and self defense front.

      Good luck OP

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        see

        I researched the performance of martial arts in actual warfare and here's the tl;dr:
        >European > anything else basically always, it's not even close
        >This means European fencing beats everything when it comes to armed close combat. Everything. Spanish fencing is especially good, but nothing is really bad or even average, it's all top tier.
        >The best unarmed style is medieval stand up grappling (looks liek Jiu Jitsu) with a bit of basic bare knuckle boxing (the old stuff, think vertical fist etc) - this is still used under different names by all special forces on the planet even today
        >Of Kung Fu, only Tongbeiquan works, as seen in WW2 against the Japs
        >Of Budo, only Judo works, with karate a far off second place
        >Nothing else of the Asian arts work in actual combat except the original Taekwondo (as seen in the Vietnam war)
        If you art isn't on this very short list, it was tested and doesn't work or is newer than WW2.

        karate is pretty good when it comes to non-Euro arts, it lost against Savate in France but in Asia, it won against Muay Thai, Kung Fu and whatever else those guys tried it on. You could do worse (say, boxing post-1950s, it's pretty bad for actual fighting nowadays)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, I should have removed Karate from that list I can agree with that. The rest are nonsense flashy sports which follow traditional culture for show.

          I have a black belt in Taekwondo, did years of Karate. Both taught me a strong basis in kicking and speed which translated nicely once I joined Muay Thai and Kickboxing. I think if you are older getting into these sports however, Muay Thai is the way to go for standup. I also do BJJ/Judo, I truly believe you should do both of these if possible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder that mma guy went around challenging any martial arts school, kicked their asses so bad that die hard martial arts chinks ostracized him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He lost social credit. No joke

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Martial arts chinks didn't ostracized him bozo the commie government literally blackballed him for having the audacity to btfo le proud and great strong martial arts of the ancient chink culture and history.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In germany, a 36 year old, 191cm (6´3) tall, 140 kg (310 lbs) heavy wing tsun master (with his own wing tsun self defense school) got beaten up by a 16 year old "Nazi" (his claim). He got beaten to the ground and his phone stolen by the teenager.

      https://www.nw.de/lokal/kreis_herford/herford/20803942_Was-der-Wirt-Ali-Diboglu-erlebt-als-er-er-sich-fuer-junges-Maedchen-einsetzt.html

      Here is the article. Its in german, sadly...
      EWTO is the biggest WT organisation in germany with the worst possible training for self defense. Here are some "promovideos":

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        though wt is shit, even a heavyweight boxing champ could get sucker punched from behind and beaten to the ground

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          from a small guy? Nah. And a heavyweight would know, what is going to happen. The fight was actually going on. The girl got punched in the face and the self defense trainer couldnt protect her or himself against someone who weight 60kg less and was 10cm smaller.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            next time provide all info

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I forgot that the article is in germany. He was defending some girl. The girl got punched. He was still talking to the guy. The guy punched him. He fell to the ground after a single punch, was beaten while laying down and his phone got stolen.
              A 36 year old bear-of-a-man was beaten by a little 16 year old dyel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s sad that there are entire industries that are larping while they pretend to be real.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which is better for self defense, boxing or muay thai?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Judo is better because then you can get away with any legal issues

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True, somehow punching someone in the face is seen as an act of extreme violence even though it doesn't do that much damage most of the time. Meanwhile you could throw someone on concrete, breaking his spine and making him paraplegic in the process and normies wouldn't be nearly as shocked.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >normies wouldn't be nearly as shocked
            The biggest reaction besides a knockout is someone being sent into the floor. Im pretty sure everyone knows getting slammed does more damage than a sloppy punch

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah redirecting momentum and throwing or tripping is better option then absolutely dominating someone in a slugfest legally speaking. Some retarded boomer judge or jury would deem your hands "weapons" when testifying in court. It happened to my dad when he was 16 in Darwin because he was training Tang Soo Do and knocked a drunk out on the street then had to testify for "reasonable force"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Boxing. Realistically speaking you probably won't be throwing kicks, knees and elbows in a bar so I'd say get really good at punching and dodging/blocking punches.
        Also good luck explaining to the judge that you broke two of a dude's ribs with a middle kick before kneeing his fucking face and breaking his nose because you felt threatened lmao.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not throwing a knee, elbow or kick in a bar
          People who can't fight don't kick or elbow. People who can fight can end a street fight in one kick to the leg. One leg kick and it's over. The guy won't die from smacking his head either.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you don't use elbows or knees you're fucked in close quarters, also they're a harder hitting surface than throwing a cross. Also using your elbows in a block is a good way to end a fight fast but you gotta really be confident in doing that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Boxing. Actual fights are 90% punching and clinching.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you're good at either of them you'll kick anyone's ass that doesn't know them or something as good as them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is what happens when you put a pro boxer vs a pro muay thai fighter in the ring. Low kicks are bitch that destroy your legs

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lucky my Judo background gave me abnormally strong legs and grounding. But as a result my footwork is pretty slow

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >strong legs
            >footwork is slow
            You are either very uncoordinated or your legs are actually very weak. Slow footwork is a result of 1 of those 2 things.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Its not abnormally slow but I guess is that I don't feel comfortable umping around or loosing my grip so to speak. When striking I always move forwards and can do it fast but when it comes to moving around to dodging I don't like to lose my grip if you get what I'm saying

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't like to lose my grip if you get what I'm saying
                I am a bit confused here. Do you need time to plant your feet and set up your stance?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No my legs are glued to the ground, if I move it off too a lot I get uneasy that I'd be giving an advantage to the opponent

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            people who never received a well placed low kick think its nothing. Its your biggest muscle and a kick hurts like hell. After a couple of kicks you can't think of anything else than the pain and your legs don't want to carry you anymore. As you can't think of anything else than the pain, you lower your defense and get ktfo.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know why but I like the pain on my legs for some reason, I'm not masochist at all considering getting hit on my torsohurts like hell. Probably because I had worse pain as a kid (I got the belt a LOT) and got used to the pain on my legs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you should ask a friend to give you a well placed low kick. A proper one given by the shin coming down your quad from a little angle like an axe. If well placed, you'll feel it for 3 days every time you see stairs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My dad when I was sparring with him kicked me on my thighs and calves when I was training Judo. He's 60 kilos heavier than me and I managed to take it. Doing calf raises at 150kg at 7 sets is more painful than getting hit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He didn't hit you full swing then. You can't just tank a leg kick especially if they're aiming to cause harm to your knee which is the point.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of course, if he did a full sweep I wouldn't be able to walk, It was hard enough to leave small patches of bruises around. I can say with confidence my grounding is strong as is my tolerance to pain, its just I don't feel like moving around much because I feel something might go wrong

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dude my dad's love taps didn't hurt that much!
                lol

                Here's Uriah Faber after he lost an MMA match from leg kicks. Fastforward to 1:30.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol ask kyokushin guys.
                You can easily tank low kicks, sorry you fell for memes and fairy tales kid. Even if they target the knee it takes ages for them to take you down.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >names some random style
                I've done muay thai for 15 years since I was 6 years old. Prove whatever you're saying. I'd break the average person's knee in one kick front on. It would fold backwards. Or I'd kick the knee cap upwards and tear the ligaments out. You can't tank that. It's called a fight ender. Once your knee cap is out of place that's it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Or I'd kick the knee cap upwards and tear the ligaments out
                That’s not very nice anon 🙁

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only if someone started on me for no reason I don't go around looking for fights. The point is to end the fight as soon as possible and kicks to the knees or eye pokes are the best for that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what did you say you fucking fuck...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can't tank a kick to the knee. No amount of ancient chinese style will strengthen your joints.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lol ask kyokushin guys.
                ehm, anon..........

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can absolutely tank a leg kick dude. You’re thinking of leg kicking fat tubs of shit with no conditioning or experience. What you can’t do is tank 20-40 leg kicks over a 5 round fight.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you can hard block kicks by countering with joint strikes instead of normal guarding

                this is a mean thing to do though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you can hard block kicks by countering with joint strikes instead of normal guarding

                this is a mean thing to do though

                We aren't talking about guarding. We're talking about kicking an unprotected leg.

                This boxer is fucked after just 3 leg kicks. The falls over. But for some reason you think you can tank 20 of these? Fuck off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >chicken legs boxer with sideways stance gets ratfucked by leg kicks into the back of his knee
                Take as old as time
                I didn’t say I could tank twenty, just that a normal thigh leg kick isn’t a fight ender. As a boxer I like how Jose Aldo counters the calf kick by pivoting on his rear leg and turning his shin into the kick. It’s a quick motion that doesn’t put you too out of position. Small risk of biting a feint and getting kicked in the head tho, less risk than that Seanchai hip back thing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post your legs with stamp or stfu about your ability to tank those kicks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it's safe to say that you don't have massive legs which could tank a kick like in that video and you're talking about a purely hypothetical situation.

                If you go back and look at how this argument started, we're talking about normal people vs leg kicks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post your legs with stamp or stfu about your ability to tank those kicks.

                This is a very high level of autism and defensiveness. I mentioned earlier that you guys have an outdated view of this stuff, leg kicks aren’t a secret anymore so their ability to end a fight because the guy you’re fighting has never been touched in the leg is significantly less common. The conversation started with the efficacy vs joe blow, but the Muay Thai autist is insisting that the leg kick is some no can defend anime move. Anyway I’m not arguing hypotheticals, I’m literally discussing martial arts techniques in a martial arts thread because I’m highly highly autistic about striking arts and like Jose Aldo. I think style vs style debates are largely outdated with the exception of shitting on arts without sparring,

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing you're saying has any bearing on a street fight or for self defence and you're changing the subject while personally attacking me. No one said leg kicks were a secret.

                You said that a normal person can tank a leg kick then changed the subject to autism and leg kicks not being a secret? Try to stay on topic. I'm sorry but only in your own fantasy could you tank 40 of those kicks without a guard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he brought up Joe rogan
                I had to reply again after seeing that.

                What the fuck are you talking about? We're talking about the ability for a person to tank those kicks. You're grasping at other things hard and completely changing the subject.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing you're saying has any bearing on a street fight or for self defence and you're changing the subject while personally attacking me. No one said leg kicks were a secret.

                You said that a normal person can tank a leg kick then changed the subject to autism and leg kicks not being a secret? Try to stay on topic. I'm sorry but only in your own fantasy could you tank 40 of those kicks without a guard.

                Man you're straight retarded. Nobody brought up Joe Rogan. bro can't even read. Nobody said anyone can tank 40 leg kicks. Again, you can't read. I specifically said an average person cannot tank a leg kick, but my first post was in response to you responding to a trained fighter and insisting that he can't take a leg kick.

                What the fuck are you even talking about? Literally nuking the thread with your sperging. I brought up Jose Aldo's defense against leg kicks to further the discussion of technique with someone who isn't foaming at the mouth over nothing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you lidocaine your shins like BA's rutten did and full blast without concern for being checked it would take but a few kicks to have you immobilized.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                don't bother. Its guys who never been in fight and never entered a dojo that claim shit like that. They think professional fighters are pussies, and that watching ppv mma once a week gives you the ability to not feel low kicks. The only fights they have been in are the fights in their heads where they have superpowers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dude, proffesional fighters who have been training their whole lives cry like babies. But it looks like you are a special breed in the worldnwith superpowers and we totally believe you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like that crying is from losing a match vro not physical pain

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >my dad
                >calf raises are more painful
                >leg kicks dont hurt
                Your dad obviously wasnt trying to cripple you with a kick. He was trying to teach you to keep leg kicks in mind and you failed hard. Smarten up

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would strong leg muscles make your legs slow? That doesn't make sense. You need muscles to move your legs, and stronger muscles will be able to move them faster.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you don't train your torque strength they make you slow because big muscles are harder to snap like a whip.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          a ring=/=street. a strong, solid punch is easier to perform when you do not have the room vs a low kick.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dude it's different in DA STREETZ
            *kicks your leg*
            teehee

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The leg kick is a deadly thing. Most people on the street aren't prepared for them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              mate kicks are great to learn and are great in a ring, you do not have the space for a proper kick at a bar or when your surrounded by a bunch of people.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >*kicks your other leg*
                >*everyone looks at you*
                >*you can now barely stand straight, your face clearly shows how bad your legs hurt and you feel humiliated while your opponent stands straight and has barely spent any energy. Turns out he only used about 10% of his force in those kicks*
                >What do you do? (continue/give up)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I... I... I will continue!
                >*stand on one leg, almost crying*

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's why you are using knees and inside kicks/push kicks/crescent kicks/side/back kicks. Those are all found in eastern martial arts as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yesterday I was at the park and I saw some metal poles and I remembered that Tony Ferguson and many MY fighters kick metal poles. It sounds crazy. Out of curiosity I tried the weakest little shin kick I could on the pole (basically a tap).

                It hurt a lot wtf. How do people do that. I have fairly conditioned shins too from kicking.

                You don't need any space for a leg kick.

                You need space for a long range Karate or TKD kick where you hit someone with your foot. If you are swinging your shin into someone's calf or thigh you don't need space.

                One time I was sparring with a guy who kept getting into the clinch with me, and I would kicking him in the ribs with my shin from the clinch. The only space I needed was enough to elevate my leg until my knee was about chest height.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How do they do that ?
                They throw enough kicks to completely deaden the nerves in their shins .
                Kicking a bag will grow tou stronger bones thru microfracturing, but your pain tolerance will still be low because you are used to the cushioning.
                Just repeatedly slam tour shivs on something hard and uncomfortable and you will get there eventually

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            boxers only use their fists and are trained for fights were you only use your fists. Thai boxers are trained to use fists, knees, feet and elbows. Whever a boxer ducks to avoid a punch, he gets greeted with a knee. Whenever a boxer focusses on fists, he get demolished by low kicks. Its really not a fair fight

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not necessarily. A boxer who goes into a fight with a nuak muay blind is fucked, but one who is trained to defend low kicks and is prepared for the other limbs involved is a different story. You’re going to have to throw out bobbing most likely, but the slips, the step around footwork and blocking is still highly useful. Petr Yan is very effective in mma with a traditional high guard, something nobody expected to see with the 4oz gloves.

              People get too caught up in the “my style completely counters and dominates your style” rhetoric from the 90s. As MMA progresses we see that once the element of surprise is stripped away and you learn how to defend against the quirks of each martial art, any battle tested martial art can work at the highest level.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so the answer is, if you're expecting your opponent to be a good boxer and follow the rules of boxing in a street fight and you think all confrontations will happen in spaces at least as big as a boxing ring, you definitely want to go with muay thai.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only type of Boxer that fairs any real chance against Thai Boxers are athletic, aggressive high volume brawlers only because theres a potential for a quick knockout with that style. Just about anything else gets obliterated with ease, especially outside boxing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The only type of Boxer that fairs any real chance against Thai Boxers are athletic, aggressive high volume brawlers only because theres a potential for a quick knockout with that style.
            The thing is, many boxers fought in K1 when it was big. None of them never made it to the finals in tournaments. And there are also brawlers in kickboxing. Badr in the last years of his prime before he became old and wasted liked a typical brawl.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a gun, retard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We’re not all third world amerimorons

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            horrible cope
            enjoy getting your head caved in by 3 retards in the streets

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          in reality you can't even carry a gun everywhere in the US. Hell being proficient with a knife is easier and more accessible than a gun; or you can use one of pic related

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >170cm/112kg
      >Thinking of getting into martial arts for weight loss and to know how to fight
      >Kung Fu
      Nothing to think about, you need to lose weight. For the love of god pick anything except chink shit.

      FPBP

      To add to what I think this anon was suggesting. Don't pick between those, train them all. Boxing will have elements of footwork and boxing that MT doesn't even bother with. Take the philly shell for example.Same thing goes with the grappling arts, don't pick just one of those, practice shit from them all. Any half decent MMA gym will help you with this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just do wrestling it's way more fun
      also that picture is literally mega retarded not even just from a fighting perspective
      Do muay thai for striking

      lmao I love how as he gets more and more nervous his fighting becomes less traditional, proves they study dancing more than fighting

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xu Xiaodong is absolutely based. He kicked so many “traditional Chinese” martial arts masters’ asses that the Chinese government sanctioned him lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao holy fuck.
      i'm willing to guess the ccp didn't like this.
      chinky winky dinky kungpao fantasy blown the fuck out.
      makes me wonder though, if the ccp didn't destroy all traditionalism in the 20th century, if the chinese actually had a good fighting format.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i'm willing to guess the ccp didn't like this.
        CCP went absolutely cope mode on this.

        To play devil's advocate for a sec, weren't half of the blokes that Xuxiaodong fought frauds anyway?

        That means half the blokes weren't, and Xu Xiaodong is a shit-tier MMA fighter anyway. Imagine someone actually good.

        Don't get me wrong, Xu is an awesome dude for doing this and literally risking his life due to CCP retribution (they can imprison anyone for basically anything by labeling it subversion, in this case, of culture), but he's just not a talented MMA fighter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Muay thai is chink shit you retard, it was called siamese boxing for a reason

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To play devil's advocate for a sec, weren't half of the blokes that Xuxiaodong fought frauds anyway?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/cImS3HL.jpg

      I'm 5'7 and 248 lbs. Thinking of getting into martial arts for weight loss and to know how to fight. Is it worth it? I would love Kung Fu.

      why is all this shit so expensive, check pic:
      https://s3-media2.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/W4-XVuqWAJvTPrM8Ht6yKA/o.jpg

      I'm in the toronto area and all gyms are like minimum 100 bucks a month (usually around 200), what the fuck lol. who is even paying for this scam

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xu Xiaodong is absolutely based. He kicked so many “traditional Chinese” martial arts masters’ asses that the Chinese government sanctioned him lol

      Just to make this clear, this is not traditional kung fu. This is old enough to be mistaken to be traditional kung fu, because it's not modern wushu and claims to be actual kung fu, but wing tsun is a martial art that has been developed so women could fight and it's been optimized for urban environment. And in hong kong, where its from, the rooms were very small so it never was able to become an actual martial art that made sense.
      Actual tradtional kung fu consists out of 3 equal things, technique, cardio and sparring. Its the exact same as western combat sports. The sparring combat sport is called sanda or san shou. And if a kung fu "fighter" does not practice sanda, he is not a martial artist, but just a dancer. Kung fu is not a bad martial art, the problem is, that its magnetic to esoteric retards who are into weird qi tier scams. there are literally kung fu masters who have videos where they throw someone without touching them. Its the sad product of supply and demand.
      If someone practices kung fu techniques and sanda, the styles make sense but they stop looking like movie tier kung fu, it is unironically the exact same as mma just without ground fighting.
      So should you learn kung fu? If you want to know how to fight, it's best to actually fight, so you should go to any gym where you can spar, but its very unlikely that you find a kung fu school that actually teaches sanda as most of their customers are mid 40yo boomers and housewives

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If kung fu worked the great wall wouldn't exist and there wouldn't have been mongol dysnasty

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That is like saying if boxing worked France wouldn't have been invaded by Germany in WWI.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do NOT do wing chun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EVERY BODY HAVE FUN TONIGHT

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you want to fight you should stay away from dancing arts and focus on either striking or grappling

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >5’7
    >248lbs
    I recommend neck hangs till failure

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm 5'7 and 248 lbs. Thinking of getting into martial arts for weight loss and to know how to fight. Is it worth it? I would love Kung Fu.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I researched the performance of martial arts in actual warfare and here's the tl;dr:
    >European > anything else basically always, it's not even close
    >This means European fencing beats everything when it comes to armed close combat. Everything. Spanish fencing is especially good, but nothing is really bad or even average, it's all top tier.
    >The best unarmed style is medieval stand up grappling (looks liek Jiu Jitsu) with a bit of basic bare knuckle boxing (the old stuff, think vertical fist etc) - this is still used under different names by all special forces on the planet even today
    >Of Kung Fu, only Tongbeiquan works, as seen in WW2 against the Japs
    >Of Budo, only Judo works, with karate a far off second place
    >Nothing else of the Asian arts work in actual combat except the original Taekwondo (as seen in the Vietnam war)
    If you art isn't on this very short list, it was tested and doesn't work or is newer than WW2.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nothing else of the Asian arts work in actual combat except the original Taekwondo (as seen in the Vietnam war)
      I'd think an average muay thai practitioner would beat the crap out of any taekwondo black belt but maybe taekwondo realy used to be brutal idk.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It used to be before the shit turned into daycare with colored belts. The WTF is okay because they're full contact but other organizations are a scam. The original was used in ancient warfare and you could kill people with your kicks. There's only like 2 schools left that teach it the ancient way, so when those go, it's next to useless.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>the original Taekwondo (as seen in the Vietnam war)

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >5'7/248lbs
    >"thinking about" weight loss
    The time is now. There's nothing to think about. Do anything bro. The longer you wait, the harder it'll be to start.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's better if he loses the weight with a good martial art instead of fucking around LARPing Naruto like an idiot amerimutt.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My 5'7 248lbs wing chun master anon will wipe the floor with you

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no. you should lose weight because you're incredibly unhealthy, and you should learn how to fight because it is an essential practical skill for your own safety.

    spend a few months doing cardio/moderate weight training, get to a more respectable size, and then find a practical fighting style to take on; i recommend krav maga, boxing, or mma.

    styles like BJJ are about the technique, so you may get somewhat of a workout but probably not a sufficient amount. and if your physique makes the techniques difficult in the first place then you will probably just become frustrated and give up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. has never done BJJ
      it's like 800 calories an hour.

      >frustrated and give up
      everyone faces a very steep learning curve, no matter their physique.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's like 800 calories an hour.
        proof?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ? google it?

          https://darkhorsecombatclub.com/blog/40075/How-Many-Calories-Does-BJJ-Burn-
          >Total: 706 calories in an hour. That’s huge. If you stick around and do 5 or 6 five-minute rounds, that would shoot up to over 1100 calories. It’s no wonder people lose weight doing BJJ.

          https://gbjj.org/how-many-calories-does-bjj-burn/
          >For an hour of jiu jitsu, a person who weighs 180 lbs will have burned about 647 calories. That’s one hell of a workout!

          >According to My Fitness Pal, a 178 lbs (81kg) person doing Brazilian jiu jitsu burns 410 calories in 30 minutes or 820 calories in 60 minutes
          >According to my estimate based on these data, 30 minutes of hard sparring in BJJ burns approximately 507 calories, and 60 minutes burns 1015 calories.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that is one hour of continuous sparring. i dont think you have ever actually done a class for one of these, but you are definitely not sparring for all of even most of the time. maybe 10-15 min of actual sparring.

            not saying it's a *bad* workout but you are severely overestimating the intensity of a training session, particularly as a beginner

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for weight loss you should try muay thai as its the most intense training of any martial arts.
    Its also usefull for learning how to fight as does Kyokushin karate. Wing Chun is only usefull if you have already trained another form of martial arts.
    Don't listen to the grapling fags. They are all mma tv viewers that have never ever in their lives been in a streetfight. We have regular meet ups with other hooligans for fights in the woods and had quit some fight in bars etc. The only rule you need to learn for street fights is, is that you never ever ever go to the ground, ever. You go to the ground in the street for grapling shit, you get kicked iin the head by others and get fucked up pretty bad. People advocating grapling in street fights never ever fought in their lives and only watch fight on tv.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      U have to learn grappling because of what u just said. so you dont get easily taken down by some hefty guy and can stay on your feet. also some fights are actual 1v1 situations

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        good luck gambling on that 1v1 situation where in reality most fights have friends involved

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >know how to fight
    >Kung Fu
    Kung fu practicioners don't fight, they are circus artists. They do impressive folkloric shit for show. There are ZERO people winning in MMA by using kung fu.
    Inb4 "dude kung fu is just too dangerous for the cage, I train for DA STREEEETZ dude"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ZERO people winning in MMA by using kung fu
      i think roy nelson was a kung fu fighter. im pretty sure there are many fighters that have kung fu as their background before moving into mma.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All of these get a decent level by doing some combination of grappling and boxing/kickboxing. People who only do kung fu get BTFO'd time after time when confronted to someone with a background in any of these. Don't believe me? Ok, go practice your bullshit no jutsu for 15 years then go to any boxing/kickboxing/muay thai/wrestling/... gym and get BTFO'd in sparring by some 17 year old kid who started practicing 2 years ago.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't believe me? Ok, go practice your bullshit
          calm down nerd. I just said people practice it and learn other things. nothing about a fighter being a specialist in literally just 1 discipline. you might as well talk about how boxing sucks cause any high school wrestler can dump a boxing champion on their head. or how wrestlers suck cause some skinny 95lb guy can submit any oly wrestler

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you might as well talk about how boxing sucks cause any high school wrestler can dump a boxing champion on their head. or how wrestlers suck cause some skinny 95lb guy can submit any oly wrestler
            Yet a MASTER of chink martial arts would get BTFO'd more than 9 times out of ten by an average wrestler or boxer. They have no conditioning, they don't pressure test whatever techniques they learn, they don't spar. The only exception may be judo if you would find a decent dojo (which is extremely rare at least where I'm from)
            TLDR; meme martial artists can't fight

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              calm down nerd. if you want to keep arguing about how people who dont spar cant fight, go ahead. you sound dumb as fuck stating the obvious. whats next? wrestlers who dont wrestle cant wrestle?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >They have no conditioning
              Karate is well known for conditioning by hitting sand and wood are you high?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Guess what I'm not a bucket of sand, a brick or a plank.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No the theory is if you harden your body via callouses you can take more hits without damage

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're right about everything but Judo. It is a legitimately useful form of training and people in Judo do spar just like wrestlers and the techniques work. It massively improves your balance and general grappling ability. On its own it's not going to KO opponents or anything but it definitely helps you win clinch and takedown situations. Don't compare or include it in other definitely fake lamo martial arts like Wing Chun or other shit, it is actually practical.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You have to stop painting with so broad a brush. Judo and Kyokushin karate are extremely pressure tested and their athletes are very well conditioned. Karate has many practitioners at the top level of MMA and while Judo is less represented, it’s sort of like boxing where the top practitioners typically stick with their art. Like as a sports sambo guy I started the class lugging 200 pound Russian geriatrics around the dojo and ended it getting tossed around by those same 200 pound Russian geriatrics.
              I only have experience with boxing but from what I can tell actual karate is pretty above board, not at all comparable to some of the more useless forms of eastern martial arts. They have very well conditioned hands and their footwork is applicable to all disciplines, I incorporate some of the in and out movement into my boxing.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need serious weight loss if you want to pick up a martial art. Start off with boxing because thats the best martial art to lose weight. You can later move on to multiple arts. I personally prefer a mix of Boxing, Kyokushin, and Judo/Jujitsu. BJJ you'll never find a proper one because they're all for sport and aren't viable in self-defence

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best 1v1 fighting style is BJJ.

    However BJJ does not take into account people around you. Once you apply a lock if there is someone watching they are likely to freak out and kick you to stop you, often in the head, I've seen that happen in bars. It doesn't matter how good you are once your grapple people around you will freak out.

    Therefore: The best street fighting style is muay thai.

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The best 1v1 fighting style is BJJ.
      In a sport/rule setting sure. It doesn't work as well in an open setting. The rules in MMA all strengthen BJJ's potency because all sorts of strikes, gouges, and joint locks are illegal in them. The most effective form of fighting is small joint locks/permanent injury maneuvers. If you eye gouge people or break their fingers or mash their nuts into a pulp, they're not going to be doing any kind of BJJ hold on you with any strength.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I lost respect for bjj after seeing Devon larrat vs black belt video. What a meme martial art

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actually yeah you're right. If you open up to eye gouging and throat strikes BJJ would fall down in a self defence setting against boxing or muay thai.

        I still think muay thai is #1 because of its range. Someone who doesn't know how to kick usually can't block a kick which is like 80% of dudes who will start a fight with you on the street. That said boxers have a certain movement to them that you don't see in muay thai. So I would say a learning both muay thai and boxing would be best.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you are interest in kung fu do Sanda, it is a legit martial art and it involves both grappling and striking https://youtu.be/EsZirt03UXc

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the reason the Dutch are the best kickboxers is the love for the low kick.
    People who never got a well placed low kick underestimate the pain and destruction it causes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the reason the Dutch are the best kickboxers is the love for the low kick.
      Dutch people are psychopaths so it checks out

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love martial arts. I do Muay Thai and BJJ right now.

    Seems like Kung Fu and Wing Chun are baloney martial arts.

    That said I do really like this Wing Chun youtuber named Kevin Lee who teaches really cool Wing Chun hand trapping techniques. So it isn't all bad, just mostly bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >teaches really cool Wing Chun hand trapping techniques
      It's called parrying m8. It's a fundamental defense technique in literally every striking style

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know. It is still pretty cool in Wing Chun.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cuts your laotian fairy dance short

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should one learn both boxing and muay thai + grappling?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boxing is a really good one. "On Da Streetz" punching is more useful. It is easier to learn a decent punch. You can get good quickly.

      That said I hate boxing because it seems like the boxers at my gym are always punching harder than I am comfortable with during sparring. It is also a really chaotic martial art, since when you are "in the pocket" and in punching range you are too close to react very quickly.

      That is just my opinion. I do Muay Thai + BJJ at my gym and I like those. I think the quick list of "real" martial arts would be: Boxing, MT, Wrestling, and BJJ.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think you would like the cross guard, if you ever get back into boxing. It’s great for slower guys to get inside without taking too much damage and if your parter is whacking you too hard, punching you in the elbow will force him to reconsider.
        t. Cross guard evangelist

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Myau Thai is better + Greco Wrestling if possible, they are married pretty well due to similar stances.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like the consensus is that boxing and Muay Thai are great choices. HOWEVER, what about the risk of brain injury from repeated blows to the head? Can I train around that, or would I be laughed out of the gym like some kind of pussy?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one should be hitting you hard enough to cause that in training. If they are they're retards and you should give them a throat jab to warn them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just do more mitt work and a bit less sparring sessions to get to a decent condition as well as doing your cardio.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No you can definitely train around it.

      The only real risk of getting brain injuries is if you are sparring hard. If you do any other kind of training including sparring very lightly, you are safe.

      On this point it is good to find a good gym and good people you trust. If you aren't able to find good sparring partners you can trust you also can't be sure they won't hit you in the head too hard.

      At my gym new people and young people seem to be the most dangerous. Most new people who spar either cower in fear and run away or they stand their ground and swing really hard in like a "fight or flight" kind of reaction. Young kids just have no discipline at all and are swining for the fences all the time. To spar safely you have to have self control, skill, and composure, so that you can either pull your strikes or throw slow and safe strikes.

      But the prospect of brain injuries is pretty stressful and scary. I decided to take a break from striking for a little while, because I kept getting headaches. Like I would spar, and get hit in the head, and then have headaches for a week. It sounds like a brain injury, but, I am pretty sure it isn't because:
      1. I just don't think I am getting hit hard enough
      2. I will get headaches from getting in a head lock too, or even just punching the punching bag. Martial arts put a lot of wear and tear on the neck, which commonly causes tensions head aches

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This post made me wonder if my migrains which would cause me to go blind were caused by hits to the head. I haven't had one for years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like you need to do neck bridges and neck training lol.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I think so.

          I went to a chiropractor and he worked things out. Told me I have nerd neck (which makes sense since I work behind a desk all day). He found a routine of neck exercises that help, but maybe I need to do more.

          It helped for a while, but maybe I started slacking off, and then I got a headache for a week after a sparring partner punched me in the face.

          It is too stressful worrying about brain injuries. I am just going to do grappling for a while, work on my neck strength, do bag work at home, and then try a striking class again later.

          I think you would like the cross guard, if you ever get back into boxing. It’s great for slower guys to get inside without taking too much damage and if your parter is whacking you too hard, punching you in the elbow will force him to reconsider.
          t. Cross guard evangelist

          Thanks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You won’t be sparing for months so the point is moot.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is for flexibility idiot it's not a fighting stance

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >exercise for weight loss
    doesn't work. start fasting fatass

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any meme martial art that doesn't have a competitive scene is bullshit. There is no way for an art to evolve other than actual combat where people try to become the best under the ruleset of the game.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tai Chi works if you weaponize it by using it to perfect your breathing and kinetic linking and then just throw full body jabs and elbow thrusts and shit

    For grappling you can literally just train your grip until it's over 100 lbs and then just pinch people, you can basically just destroy the human body by applying precise lateral force to it's structures

    This is basically weaponized acupressure and it fucking hurts

    you can also to stuff like throat punch, pierce the belly button with your thumb, ear strikes, literally punch a BJJ dude in the anus and balls, punch their kneecap sideways

    most martial arts are honorable or sportlike so in an actual streetfight they're not prepared to just fight someone who has high bone density and pain tolerance who aims to simply cause permanent damage as quickly as possible

    Nothing beats an opening jab to the chin though, if they take that first shot they're done

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Martial Arts are about discipline and you have none.
    So give it a shot.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should I learn Hokuto shinken or Nanto Seiken?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously Hokuto. I mean, does Kenshiro ever actually lose?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >does Kenshiro ever actually lose?
        Well, he lost to Souther once and other Hokuto practitioners

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>says the average person can tank leg kicks
    >they can't
    >says a professional boxer has tiny legs
    >won't post his
    >brings up Joe Rogan when we're talking about self defence and the ability for the average person to take a leg kick
    >writes and entire paragraph that is off topic
    Kek what is he even arguing at this point?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kung fu is elaborately neutered to not be effective because it's a tool of rebellion. if you follow the absolute oldest manuals with an informed mindset from modern mma you might be able to piece something useful together, but if you go to some kung fu gym it'll be peak mcdojo bullshit

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    redpill me on krav maga
    I realize it's kind of phony what with the lack of full contact sparring but it's the only option in my area other than boxing
    I don't care about conditioning since I'm a bikefag but my back is kind of iffy so I can't do gay shit like crunches like the boxing coach I went to wanted

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I realize it's kind of phony what with the lack of full contact sparring but it's the only option in my area other than boxing
      so do boxing? they have sparring so it's way more legit. if your back is iffy simply work on it, we tend to underrate how much we can fix with at-home rehab. unless you have some severe condition I guess

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm working on it but every other month I seem to slip a disc or some shit
        I don't think I will ever be able to do crunches, russian twists, bent over rows, etc. without the thought of snap city in the back of my head but I plan to get unfucked andstart adding weight to my squats (just barbel or bw at the moment) and deadlifts (my dad's dog that's 40 lbs lmao)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my goal is develop some well-earned confidence (got a good amount of hubris from lifting but I realize I'd get whooped hard by anybody with MA experience despite my retard strength)

      also I might get into a fisticuffs with my out of state pillhead brother next time I see him and he was a corrections officer and has treetrunks for forearms

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >redpill me on krav maga
      Its garbage garden gnome-Jitsu and most proponents of it are either roided Israeli hucksters or 40+ year old tacti-cool LARPers who think owning a bulletproof vest and an AR makes them politically poignant.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did Krav Maga for two years.

      It is phony. I did get a good work out in though.

      I don't know why you would be able to do Krav but not boxing though. Like in my Krav class we would do some high intensity cardio stuff like burpees and jump squats compared to a boxing class where I think you'll see a lot more punching and stuff like that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        eh, guess I could have a serious talk with the boxing guy and make clear what my limitations are at the moment and see if he's cool with it since it would definitely ruin the flow of his class if I were to skip rope as the rest of the class was doing burpees
        I can jump rope, squat, do jumping jacks, walking lunges, jog/sprint but not burpees/pushups, superman, plank or crunches

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Krav Maga is really a bunch of different martial artists creating self defense classes for the Israeli army, you'll run the gambit from actual fighters incorporating nut shots and knife defense to kung fu 2.0

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wing chun? more like wing chud

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you guys, I really want to lose weight. I feel hopeless now. I want to get to 117.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here’s the thing bud.
    People will tell you to pick a high intensity martial art.
    However, while they see martial arts as merely a means to kick ass, what it seems like you’re trying to do by learning kung fu is mastering the spiritual as well as the physical.
    I think in that case, starting with tai chi, will provide you and understanding of the principles of meditation as well as the balance needed for the other martial arts.
    Once you’ve learned the 108 you can then take what you’ve learned to practice other martial arts.
    You’re 250lbs. Tai chi will provide you the initial push towards self care.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is boxing and judo a based combo?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      extremely based if you're in cannuckistan or wherever the fuck people wear jackets year round

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is my combo, just replace judo with sport Sambo( large overlap). It’s a very complete combination and both arts have a plethora of quality gyms and practitioners. In addition, being very adept at both arts gives you a serious leg up in mma as most people have a pretty pedestrian understanding of balance and position compared to judo guys, that’s a large part of why Khabib and the like can dominate other grapplers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >just replace judo with sport Sambo

        This bro tryin' to kill people...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >judo with sport Sambo( large overlap)
        Look into the history. IIRC the Russian(s) who came up with Sambo went to Japan to learn from the Judo master there.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP, just do boxing and learn how to choke people. There you go.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Co opting this thread for some advice. There's a gym near me that teaches Krav Maga and BJJ. I wanna be a cop someday, which of the two would be more useful for that line of work? I don't care about the physical fitness aspect, either one will do the job in that respect I'm sure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Krav Maga
      I have friends that are two brothers that used to do it for years, like 6 years or something. We got in a couple of fights with others, and they both always got their shit kicked in and we had to save them. Its as effictive as dancing classes in a fight.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t forget to have a good 400m dash ability

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely hope this is satire

    But I'd say all you need is to lift weights and punch hot women in the forehead

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fake and gay.
    Cope and seethe.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think Sumo would be good for you

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wingchun is the gayest, most useless fighting style ever invented. In what world does simulating being knock-kneed make you able to kick someone's ass?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine getting hit in the knee in that position.

      As with all traditional martial arts, it is based on some rather rigid assumptions by the ancient equivalent of an armchair commando. According to theory it gives the practitioner a stable stance while being able to pivot his/her body with little effort, which is true in a vacuum. But, of course, in any situation in which you are not in perfect control, you're fucked.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Brother please look into getting recruited into a Sumo stables. I wish I had your body type. I'm 6'0 and 155 pounds. I gotta do Kung Fu, I wish I could do Sumo. Sumo is where its at my man, it'll be hard at first. But brother you could put in the work and be Ozeki one day

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're literally 100lbs overweight. What the fucj is wrong with you?

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wing tsun is. strangely solid form of 'martial art'
    but it's almost on par with tai chi

    I can see the appeal in straight arm blocks and strikes the way they practice on the wooden dummy bar.
    but assuming you're younger or ie: a zoomer
    you might just grow out of this phase
    do pushups, run or bike, do pullups
    recommend something less archaic
    >like karate, boxing, judo, muay thai

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >krotty

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >krotty
        for the lad

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the best martial art for someone who is 6'2, 183lbs, long arms? Is it boxing? I did some judo a while back and felt like I was at a definite disadvantage compared to stockier, fatter types.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just fast

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm 5'7 and 248 lbs. Thinking of getting into martial arts for weight loss and to know how to fight. Is it worth it? I would love Kung Fu.

    You're WAY too fat for any martial art right now. Get on your diet, reduce the carb intake, increase your vegetable intake, and walk for a half hour every morning before breakfast.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone post the webms of hasan punching and kicking the heavybag

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wing chun
    Shit retards do

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pressure fighter comes at you
    >don't run away, that's what he wants
    >stand and trade since you're gonna get hit anyways
    >if you have the cardio, try to pressure him back

    Is this correct?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Broadly, but it depends a lot on the individual capabilities of each fighter. Trading shots with a pressure fighter is great unless he hits harder and is sturdier than you. Obviously the big thing is to not let them get momentum going, but how you go about this depends on you as a fighter. Lots of intercepting strikes like stiff jabs and teeps can help to disrupt their rhythm, as can aggressively clinching when they start to let their hands go.
      I'm mainly talking about this from a Muay Thai perspective since that's my background, but I would also expect you can use cage wrestling to stifle volume strikers too. Not sure how you deal with it in boxing short of either being a better boxer or more physically capable.
      It's really hard to talk about dealing with different styles of fighting in a vacuum since there's so many factors that go into how a fight turns out.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lmao you basically described my body stats and some anons called you an obeast. ask me how I know they are lankets/dyels without them telling me. do boxing and muay thay. I do ancient sumo.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just pick up bjj or some discipline of kickboxing. Dutch or Muay Thai, whatever strikes your fancy since it kinda comes down to personal preference. You wont get ripped doing them or anything but they will probably be pretty good for your cardio and losing a little weight here and there depending on how hard you work the bag or roll.

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