Yes, vegans come here to shill. Every day. They make antiketo or antimeat threads, or procarb threads. Just search "starchchad" on the archive or some variation of that. They jerk themselves off but I don't think any real Anons have fallen for it.
You can occasionally find them throwing a temper tantrum in /fat/ because they don't like fat people being told that meat and eggs are good for weight loss.
most vegans have to supplement iron, b12, iodine - all of which can cause you to feel like shit if you are deficient
especially if they eat processed foods like vegan versions of meats/cheeses thinking they'll be healthier
Yes, vegans come here to shill. Every day. They make antiketo or antimeat threads, or procarb threads. Just search "starchchad" on the archive or some variation of that. They jerk themselves off but I don't think any real Anons have fallen for it.
You can occasionally find them throwing a temper tantrum in /fat/ because they don't like fat people being told that meat and eggs are good for weight loss.
vegans must taste fricking great. grass fed people meat mmm
>less profitable to sell >less people in the hospital >less medical symptoms treatment funding
the US barely has any resources to trade, next to food and software
>more citizens who can think for themselves >more citizens with strength >more citizens with good mental health
When you realize that the ruling class considers the average person their enemy, it is obvious why they tell average people to eat "food" that weakens them and avoid real food which would make them strong and healthy.
One big thing people keep bringing up is that meat is especially bad for climate change, pollution etc.
Ironically factory farming which is considered cruel tends to reduce the "footprint" of animal agriculture the most
There is also research suggesting that excessive consumption of red meat is bad for you. Funnily red meat is also the worst for environmental impact
Yeah. I'm not convinced to even give up red meat, but when I learned about environmental impact I decided to not rely on it. Staples in my diet are eggs, oysters, clams, sardines, sometimes dairy, but I decided beef should just be a treat for grillouts and whatnot. Eating lower food chain is way more sustainable and also safer from pollutants (mostly with the fish).
Really doesn't impact my eating much, but supposedly it's the small change with the greatest impact on the environment.
Cope. Pork, chicken, and goat are all more efficient.
Cattle are uniquely inefficient (but also uniquely tasty), which is why wealth was historically measured in cattle. The ability for average British people (and their American cousins) to eat beef regularly was historically anomalous.
>remove cattle as food source >what happened to all the grass lands?! >why are these previously stable environs suddenly collapsing and turning into deserts?!
That's kinda irrelevant, it doesn't make cows necessary. Rotating crops is also regenerative. The amount of energy needed to produce beef is leaps and bounds beyond that of other animal products. There's not enough land on earth for all the beef we eat to be grass fed and finished, that's why you chumps are doomed to eat basedfed conventional cow.
>There's not enough land on earth for all the beef we eat to be grass fed and finished, that's why you chumps are doomed to eat basedfed conventional cow.
this is a blatant lie
>There is also research suggesting that excessive consumption of red meat is bad for you
No there isn't. All research on red meat shows more is better.
Don't forget the McLardass burgers fried in seed oils and served on sugary buns with soda and fried potatoes on the side that also get lumped in. I remember a big Harvard study that tracked peoples' eating habits for like ten years and the worst 5 were all shit that you would find in a burger combo meal. Something like burgers, ground beef, potatoes, French fries, and soda. Data doesn't lie, vegans do.
And who are these people flying in private jets? They sound like high value men who are producing value and contributions to the world which is more than this entire board combined can ever fathom accomplishing
Because there are 8 billion people on the planet. 5 billion of them are fed by the Haber-Bosch process, and we're running out of petroleum. The WEF thinks it would be unethical to 5 billion people starve to death, and they don't want angry, hungry people lashing out to destroy farms and factories - which would plunge the world into a permanent dark age. Hence the pod, bugs, and VR.
Meat : 1/3 of your needed nutrient needs, you can live your whole life without ever needing anything else
No Meat : Overpriced alternatives, lifetime need of costly supplements, more place for shitty shit like sugar and dumb foods, weaker brain so stronger unhealthy needs
Anyway, they don't want you eating meat because it was once a privilege of the ruling classes and they want to restore it. It's also why they don't want you to own your own home, don't want you to be allowed to farm, don't want you to have money. They want you to be a serf.
Because it's expensive, that's why. It’s not that they want to kill people, it’s just that the global population keeps skyrocketing.
See how globohomosexual always, and I mean ALWAYS, shill cheap plant/bug based stuff as healthy but criticize everything that’s animal based. Why? Because animal based food cost more resources to produce.
>seed oils
They are cheap so it’s ok. Who cares about trans fats anyway. >animal fat
Demonized and should be AVOIDED AT ALL COST. While too much animal fat can be bad for you, it’s not as bad as they claim. You can eat a reasonable portion of animal fat every day and remain healthy. Processed and fried fast food for example are infinitively worse for LDL cholesterol than natural animal fat. >sugar
It’s unhealthy but it’s cheap so it doesn’t get 1/10 of the shit it deserves. >carbs
Too many carbs are bad, specially went the population is becoming more and more sedentary. If anything they should try to reduce them because carbs=energy. But they are cheap, so eat those 4 times a day. >veggies
Healthy and cheap, that’s why veganism is so fricking shilled. However anyone whith basic nutrition knowledge knows that veggies are just there to compliment your meat. Alone by themselves they are insufficient. >fish
It’s objectively healthy (they tried to claim back then that fat from fish was unhealthy) but it’s expensive. That’s why you have so many mercury poisoning studies lately. >eggs
Yes, with each day that passes studies and medicine say they are great, but don’t eat too many goy. Stay cautious 🙂
>animal based food costs more to produce
B-b-bullshit! For plants you need: >more water >more land >more labor
This ultra cope of plants being more efficient and easier to produce is the height of moronation.
Never mind their idiotic "But the land we use to grow feed for the cattle could be used to feed us!"
Except cattle is often fed the stuff we don't eat. Like, when we produce corn, we only eat the grain. Ever wonder what they do with the rest of the plant? They make kibble out of it. Cows, pigs and chickens love it. Same goes for most vegetables and fruits.
Animals eat plants you baka. You have to pay all the plants the livestock eats + the animal itself. If goys eat the livestock food it's more efficient.
The animals are fed wheat and corn and soi. I doubt it would be healthy to replace chicken breasts with corn and bread. Cows eat grass. I don't think it would be healthy to replace kefir, yogurt, milk, butter, and cheese with grass.
Animals eat plants you baka. You have to pay all the plants the livestock eats + the animal itself. If goys eat the livestock food it's more efficient.
Never mind their idiotic "But the land we use to grow feed for the cattle could be used to feed us!"
Except cattle is often fed the stuff we don't eat. Like, when we produce corn, we only eat the grain. Ever wonder what they do with the rest of the plant? They make kibble out of it. Cows, pigs and chickens love it. Same goes for most vegetables and fruits.
homie, you can do some research and see how much producing meat costs compared to cereals. Google is your firend.
Also livestock eat mainly söy + cereal. Just because cows eat a bit of grass doesn't mean it’s their main diet.
It's a fact homie, and anyone who knows about food production won’t deny it. Feeding people with livestock food is simple more efficient than feeding a cow with a ton of söy so you can eat a steak.
Anyway, my whole point is that globohomosexual moves because of economic interests. Too many goys? Let’s feed them with the cheapest shit we have, even if it’s unhealthy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Taking your data on food production from vegetarians is like taking your data on sugar intake from Coke and Pepsi.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How is this proving your point about plants requiring more resources to produce compared to animals which do eat plants that you shills seem to leave that part out?
That's completely wrong because it takes a lot more growing of pants to feed the animals. The fact that some beef is grass fed doesn't change how much corn, onions or alfalfa is grown specifically for feeding animals.
We've been overpopulated since the green revolution. The only reason modern populations are supported is because finite petrochemicals are used to produce fertilizer. Organic farming (even when it launders artificial nitrates from conventionally foddered manure) produces yields 20-30% lower than conventional. Or in other words, without petrochemicals, most of the world would starve - and we've artificially increased the population ceiling.
It's funny that one of the reasons vegans site for their refusal to eat meat is >we don't harm animals to survive!
Well, it turns out, and a moron could probably figure this out, that plants are living entities and they can move, they can communicate with other plants, and they can also "feel" "pain". Shocker that an entity that can grow can also experience adverse sensory effects when it is damaged/destroyed.
So, knowing that, if these objectively morally superior vegans/vegetarians still refuse to accept that we were born, unbidden by our own wills, into this cruel reality and to continue to exist within it we must harm and consume other beings, then they never really cared about "harm", or whatever the frick kindergarten excuse they use, and only did it for the painfully obvious excuse of some pallid popularity payoff.
Animals are similar enough to us that I have nothing but respect for the people that want to show them mercy. Those who don't harm their own kind should be the norm. Those who don't even harm similar kinds are just exceptional people. The problem is that they're wrong about plants being a viable nutrition source and costing less from the planet. Meat is basically super refined plants (via cows eating them and us eating cows) which is why we've grown to be what we are and if it were even possible to refine them that much ourselves without killing things with faces it would cost the same amount of resources and effect the environment all the same anyway.
>it would cost the same amount of resources and effect the environment all the same anyway
No, growing food specifically for all the animals in factory farms takes very, very much more resources and arable land than it takes to grow the plants to feed as much people as the factory farm feeds.
Because bugs appear to be an abundant source of protein but in reality it's an absurd amount of fiber that's humanly impossible to eat just to get how much you need in a day. Similar to plants but amplified by 1000. If they can this off it'll be the israelite move of the millenium.
>Why does globohomosexual want to stop us from eating meat?
They're afraid of the future. They misunderstand economics, business and health.
They're afraid we won't have enough land to feed the population, so they want to replace livestock farming with the highest calorie per land use: fake meat and grains. Despite that most livestock graze on land that isn't suitable for agriculture.
They're afraid that fresh water will run out because cattle consume more of it than grains, so they want land to be used for grains. Despite that the majority of excess water livestock consumes includes water left in feed and rainwater in grass. Grass on hills you can't farm.
They're afraid the supply can't meet the demand of protein in the future, so they instead want to use the land to make fake meat which isn't as bioavailable, or use the grain to feed bugs, hoping for a SE asian style cultural shift, rather than raising more cattle.
They're afraid of global warming, so they want to replace livestock with grains despite the fact that cattle improves CO2 levels in soil, and as grains compost or break down, they release all their CO2. And because carbs aren't satiating and have to be processed, they'll double the amount of fuel use to transport it all.
And while they think they're helping the future, being moral, stopping needless dead cattle, they also profit.
They don't understand that animal fats are healthy. They don't care because seed oils cost nothing and the price controls on them keep them artificially cheap and they're probably the number one cause of heart disease. That cholesterol is necessary for testosterone production. That test is necessary for the future of the population, both men and women. The impossible burger has 0 cholesterol and estrogen levels fly through the roof after you consume one.
There are no healthy globohomosexual shills, even Arnold.
They are all cowards in corrupt circles, running on outdated data, who can't see the forest for the trees.
Meat production accounts for alot of damage to the environment. They're actually starting to get a little conscious about the fact that the earth is slowly becoming inhabitable and if they kill off all the slavestock who is gonna make them profits?
Also lab grown meat and meat substitutes are going to eventually become so cheap and fast to manufacture that simply the time and effort to grow an animal will be cost-ineffective.
Also my last tinfoil hat theory is that throughout history meat was reserved only for the elites and this is their way of slowly domesticating the masse. "Don't do the thing you want to do, think about the environment!" they say, so you eat the bugs. Meanwhile China and the Middle East have pumped more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than you have in your entire life.
Let me compare your father to a bodybuilder. They are both just people right? Its totally fair to call your father weak and decrepit because look at the bodybuilder
Every doctor on the left is natty. You just can't imagine having muscle mass because you are plant-based.
Shoulders not big enough to be on gear
We've been overpopulated since the green revolution. The only reason modern populations are supported is because finite petrochemicals are used to produce fertilizer. Organic farming (even when it launders artificial nitrates from conventionally foddered manure) produces yields 20-30% lower than conventional. Or in other words, without petrochemicals, most of the world would starve - and we've artificially increased the population ceiling.
>20-30% >most of the world >starve
Think of how much food is wasted to begin with.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Think of how much food is wasted to begin with.
Most food is going to be wasted in any practical supply chain. If you cannot handle massive wastage, people starve or become malnourished to get wacked by other maladies.
>said no one
Humans are not supposed to be red dummy
2 years ago
Anonymous
You should have a fresh skin tone though,
These morons on the right are DEF sick though. Vegan or not, you cant be a moron and be healthy. If youre gonna do veganism you better do it right. Get adequate exercise, sunlight, and eat real whole foods. Just because Oreos are vegan, doesnt mean that you should be eating them.
You should NOT be red. The bible details what you should be eating in an ideal lifestyle; Fruit bearing seed and herb of the field (Gen 1:29). Gods blessings are not given to the red skinned people (children of Esau), and will not inherit his kingdom. (Gen 25:25)
Whenever we consume food and our bodies begin to break it down, compounds called free radicals are formed. These free radicals are essentially unpaired electrons that can cause damage to our DNA, our cells, and other structures in our body. While our body does have a lot of defense mechanisms against this, fruits and vegetables come naturally packaged with antioxidants, which help neutralize these free radicals. Antioxidants are amazing because they decrease inflammation in our body, prevent damage to our DNA that could lead to cancer down the road and prevent damage to our blood vessels which could lead to the build-up of plaques.
I try to eat mostly plant-based. That's not to say I don't eat meat at all or gorge on ice cream on occasion, but it's mostly plants.
When nearly everyone ears cheap meat every day, the only way to produce all that meat cheaply enough is factory farming where it's often just a lifetime of torture for the animals.
That shit is why there are so many people that think it's wrong to eat meat.
>it would cost the same amount of resources and effect the environment all the same anyway
No, growing food specifically for all the animals in factory farms takes very, very much more resources and arable land than it takes to grow the plants to feed as much people as the factory farm feeds.
I'd rather let third worlders starve than give up steaks tbqh
It's enough for just the first world to keep eating as much as we're currently eating to eventually make it impossible to produce as much meat as were eating now.
You'll eventually have to get rich to keep eating like you're currently eating because of how much destruction is necessary to sustain it.
Then poors will die? This isn't that hard. I would kill poor people to continue to eat steak. I don't give a shit about poor people or third worlders. I will not trade my steak so low IQ kids and the rest of us have to survive on low nutrient food.
The profit margins are much higher on plant goyslop. Not much profit is made on the sale of meat, but the profits of companies like monsanto that just make vegan kibble are massive.
Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink. Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.
So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days. And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat. Thus Melzar took away the portion of their meat, and the wine that they should drink; and gave them pulse.
baboumian is a midget photoshopped fraud who pins extreme amounts of roids and gets 50% of his calories from s*y protein shakes, and has never competed in anything
>eat a bunch of meat >build muscle >go vegan >try to maintain muscle mass with a shitload of steroids >lifts still go down
great example, champ, I’m going vegan tonight
Opposing your parents and superiors etc lost its charm so opposing le bad establishment, politicians, police, basically anyone contributing to the world is the next trend not just on IST but across the world. It's either that or these freaks shoot up a school
The anonymity and lack of censorship attracts edgy right wingers. IST's culture of self improvement and personal responsibility attracts normal people who lean right. The latter are deemed far right in other circles because the overtime window has shifted so far to the left.
To make us weak and subservient. Really not that hard to figure out, anon. Why do you think this shit's gotten worse the more that T-levels decrease over the years?
Why does globohomosexual want you to eat the bugs?
Simply, they own this planet largely. There's a lot of real shit, including a climate crisis, that they caused, but they don't wanna pay for fixing it.
"The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must"
They'd rather first strip YOU (the common person) bare of every necessity or let you die in managed decline before any of their treats are touched.
Because animal agriculture is responsible for 78% of agri land use but only produces 20% of global calories. By 2080 we will have exhausted almost all topsoil, meaning that our darns wont be able to produce anything, entailing global starvation regardless of stuff like water shortages. The western consumption of meat will doom humanity
Organic farming is basically impossible without livestock to break organic material down into manure. Conflating industrial farming with meat production is pants on head moronic.
There is no unringing the bell of the green revolution and the chemically intensive practices that came along with them, but for example even if we cut animal agriculture by half, we'd essentially be using 30% less land with the same calorie output, meaning either we can set aside huge swaths of arable land to naturally heal, or have lower crop yields on more land and practice regenerative agriculture to preserve and maintain topsoil.
Humanity's doom isnt a surefire thing, but it will be if we cant overpower our myopic greed. Half of the world starving will further destabilize the other half, and even people in the west will be starving in the topsoil-less scenario
Organic farming is basically impossible without livestock to break organic material down into manure. Conflating industrial farming with meat production is pants on head moronic.
Every organic farmer I've seen on Youtube has some type of livestock, even a couple that I'm pretty sure are vegan. I guess these are homestead style farms and not industrial ones, but if they're not using compost and manure to fertilize how the frick can they be considered organic?
Subsistence agriculture is much more expensive per calorie in either dollars or time. They almost certainly do not get all their calories from their plot. Their yields per acre are thoroughly unimpressive compared to small commercial organic farms (a few hundred acres), which are the ones that use the aforementioned laundered phosphates and nitrogren. And their yields are unimpressive compared to conventional agriculture, which relies on the Haber-Bosch process.
An all-organic world is the world of the 1900s, where food cost 20% of a family's monthly budget, populations were a fraction of what they are now, most people were 2-3" shorter than today, and crop failure was an actual concern.
A few of them are pretty close to 100% thanks to focusing heavily on potatoes/sweet potatoes, but for the most part they're producing calorie light fruits and vegetables since those are more profitable for home growing and small scale selling. Is there seriously a requirement that manure can only come from animals that ate only organic feed? That's absolutely moronic if true.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Is there seriously a requirement that manure can only come from animals that ate only organic feed?
No, it's not a requirement; which is why you should be skeptical that the results of going full-organic would be anything besides billions dead and billions in permanent malnourishment. Commercial organic yields are artificially higher than what was simply agriculture pre-Green Revolution in part because the manure they import contains laundered nitrogrens and phosphates.
They want to free up the land. Currently farming takes up 65%+ of the land in any given country to create farms for animals and agriculture. Land which can be used to build more factories, warehouses, businesses, cities, towns, etc. Animals need more space than vegetables, so they can be removed to get that space faster. Insects are being shilled because they take up less space than traditional meat sources.
Bigger picture, climate change will at best be mitigated, not stopped, in our lifetimes we will see humanitarian disasters beyond our comprehension as oceans rise and wipe out coastal towns and cities (i.e. most towns and cities) forcing migration on the scale of billions inland. Where do we put them all? We don't have the space! It's all taken up by houses which belong to the rich who can afford to live in safety away from the tide. These elites are aware that if the plebs are homeless they will soon pick up pitchforks, so instead they provide them with cheap ghettos to live in. Where are these ghettos? Where the farms used to be. We will be housed in cramp buildings as our planet floods, fed bugs and vegetables as they will be the only things we can fit alongside our homes as land becomes more scarce, and we will be just comfortable enough to not revolt against our masters.
>Where do we put them all?
In the ground. The population explosions of the 20th century should never have been allowed to happen. We need eugenics and sterilization based on IQ. This is the titanic. No affirmative action allowed.
I used to eat minimum 500g of meat daily but I recently started doing 5 days on 2 days off vegetarianism. I agree with the broad environmental and ethical sentiments of veganism but I hate the culture and the health deficits. I actually feel like I have more energy now and the 2 meat days are a real treat.
cause they hate us.
that woman looks like a kind person, such a shame she is in the grips of evil and is ruining herself.
Mmmyeah, I bet you guys love weiners, guzzling big sausages dripping with gravy right into your throat
veganism is a gatewaydrug to homosexuality so try again
Woah, who said anything about homosexuality?
Was that a freudian slip?
https://youtube.com/shorts/nZbgJJ6WRMU?feature=share
is that you dale?
>dipping a sausage on a bun into gravy for each bite
Not a bad idea, thanks homosexual I'll try it out.
You're welcome, go slobber on that meat, gobble it all up big boy
do actual vegans lurk on IST or is it all just larp?
There is an unaware vegan inside you RIGHT NOW.
Woah, you sure are eager to get some sausage into your mouth
>There is an unaware vegan inside you RIGHT NOW.
yeah I know, i ate it
cattle meat is halal
Yes, vegans come here to shill. Every day. They make antiketo or antimeat threads, or procarb threads. Just search "starchchad" on the archive or some variation of that. They jerk themselves off but I don't think any real Anons have fallen for it.
You can occasionally find them throwing a temper tantrum in /fat/ because they don't like fat people being told that meat and eggs are good for weight loss.
>Baker
>lifetime natty
Pick one
No they're real, at least most of them. There's like 3 or 4 total so it's whatever
I sure will. I've just got my rifle and I'm going out intk the farm to slaughter a pig to make the Sausages with.
Thanks for the idea. I wasn't due to slaughter this pig till next week tbh.
Leftists are cruel like children. Vicious hateful animals who only care about being "good boys" (i.e. obedient slaves).
Vegans are the type of people who torture children to death (literally) to virtue signal about how they aren't hurting cows.
the eyes, no spark, just empty
they look so dead inside on the bottom pic, especially the guy
most vegans have to supplement iron, b12, iodine - all of which can cause you to feel like shit if you are deficient
especially if they eat processed foods like vegan versions of meats/cheeses thinking they'll be healthier
I get the same feeling looking at these... people as I do looking into the painted on face of a doll. How does someone end up like this?
just a bit more and he'll be doing the sóy face
They look dreadful on both pictures, stop cherry picking.
vegans must taste fricking great. grass fed people meat mmm
>that woman looks like a kind person
if she wasn't white you wouldn't say that
>less profitable to sell
>less people in the hospital
>less medical symptoms treatment funding
the US barely has any resources to trade, next to food and software
people in the hospital
medical symptoms treatment funding
ftfy
right, thanks for the reminder
t. ESL
>more citizens who can think for themselves
>more citizens with strength
>more citizens with good mental health
When you realize that the ruling class considers the average person their enemy, it is obvious why they tell average people to eat "food" that weakens them and avoid real food which would make them strong and healthy.
Odd that the ruling class makes money off of all food. It's like they've convinced you that you are rebelling against them.
One big thing people keep bringing up is that meat is especially bad for climate change, pollution etc.
Ironically factory farming which is considered cruel tends to reduce the "footprint" of animal agriculture the most
There is also research suggesting that excessive consumption of red meat is bad for you. Funnily red meat is also the worst for environmental impact
Yeah. I'm not convinced to even give up red meat, but when I learned about environmental impact I decided to not rely on it. Staples in my diet are eggs, oysters, clams, sardines, sometimes dairy, but I decided beef should just be a treat for grillouts and whatnot. Eating lower food chain is way more sustainable and also safer from pollutants (mostly with the fish).
Really doesn't impact my eating much, but supposedly it's the small change with the greatest impact on the environment.
explain to me how a herbivore is "lower food chain"
cause the top predator eats them, that's why
yes, we do
Oops I was referring only to fish and why sardines are better than tuna. May have been somewhat off topic.
Ruminants are the only regenerative agriculture. You've been tricked. If you care about the planet, eat mostly beef.
Cope. Pork, chicken, and goat are all more efficient.
Cattle are uniquely inefficient (but also uniquely tasty), which is why wealth was historically measured in cattle. The ability for average British people (and their American cousins) to eat beef regularly was historically anomalous.
>remove cattle as food source
>what happened to all the grass lands?!
>why are these previously stable environs suddenly collapsing and turning into deserts?!
That's kinda irrelevant, it doesn't make cows necessary. Rotating crops is also regenerative. The amount of energy needed to produce beef is leaps and bounds beyond that of other animal products. There's not enough land on earth for all the beef we eat to be grass fed and finished, that's why you chumps are doomed to eat basedfed conventional cow.
>There's not enough land on earth for all the beef we eat to be grass fed and finished, that's why you chumps are doomed to eat basedfed conventional cow.
this is a blatant lie
>There is also research suggesting that excessive consumption of red meat is bad for you
No there isn't. All research on red meat shows more is better.
>No there isn't.
Yep there is.
Nope there isn't
All the "red meat bad" research lumps steak in with processed shite like bacon and pepperoni.
Don't forget the McLardass burgers fried in seed oils and served on sugary buns with soda and fried potatoes on the side that also get lumped in. I remember a big Harvard study that tracked peoples' eating habits for like ten years and the worst 5 were all shit that you would find in a burger combo meal. Something like burgers, ground beef, potatoes, French fries, and soda. Data doesn't lie, vegans do.
Research also suggests that eating bugs is better for you than eating red meat
>Being afraid of CO2 emissions because some billionaire that routinely flies in private jets told you they're bad
And who are these people flying in private jets? They sound like high value men who are producing value and contributions to the world which is more than this entire board combined can ever fathom accomplishing
>Paris Hilton and Megan Markle are high value men producing value and contributing to the world
Because there are 8 billion people on the planet. 5 billion of them are fed by the Haber-Bosch process, and we're running out of petroleum. The WEF thinks it would be unethical to 5 billion people starve to death, and they don't want angry, hungry people lashing out to destroy farms and factories - which would plunge the world into a permanent dark age. Hence the pod, bugs, and VR.
kill every Black person, poo, and chink and we wouldn't have such issues
Meat : 1/3 of your needed nutrient needs, you can live your whole life without ever needing anything else
No Meat : Overpriced alternatives, lifetime need of costly supplements, more place for shitty shit like sugar and dumb foods, weaker brain so stronger unhealthy needs
Because they are an inept bunch of morons who suck david suzuki's dick and detest everything about humanity.
>globohomo
Stop using russian shill buzzwords.
Anyway, they don't want you eating meat because it was once a privilege of the ruling classes and they want to restore it. It's also why they don't want you to own your own home, don't want you to be allowed to farm, don't want you to have money. They want you to be a serf.
>Stop using russian shill buzzwords.
>meat is good
>LOL I BET UR A VEGAN
have a nice day.
>white men in suits ruin everything
That reminded me to take my suits to the cleaners
Because it's expensive, that's why. It’s not that they want to kill people, it’s just that the global population keeps skyrocketing.
See how globohomosexual always, and I mean ALWAYS, shill cheap plant/bug based stuff as healthy but criticize everything that’s animal based. Why? Because animal based food cost more resources to produce.
>seed oils
They are cheap so it’s ok. Who cares about trans fats anyway.
>animal fat
Demonized and should be AVOIDED AT ALL COST. While too much animal fat can be bad for you, it’s not as bad as they claim. You can eat a reasonable portion of animal fat every day and remain healthy. Processed and fried fast food for example are infinitively worse for LDL cholesterol than natural animal fat.
>sugar
It’s unhealthy but it’s cheap so it doesn’t get 1/10 of the shit it deserves.
>carbs
Too many carbs are bad, specially went the population is becoming more and more sedentary. If anything they should try to reduce them because carbs=energy. But they are cheap, so eat those 4 times a day.
>veggies
Healthy and cheap, that’s why veganism is so fricking shilled. However anyone whith basic nutrition knowledge knows that veggies are just there to compliment your meat. Alone by themselves they are insufficient.
>fish
It’s objectively healthy (they tried to claim back then that fat from fish was unhealthy) but it’s expensive. That’s why you have so many mercury poisoning studies lately.
>eggs
Yes, with each day that passes studies and medicine say they are great, but don’t eat too many goy. Stay cautious 🙂
>animal based food costs more to produce
B-b-bullshit! For plants you need:
>more water
>more land
>more labor
This ultra cope of plants being more efficient and easier to produce is the height of moronation.
Never mind their idiotic "But the land we use to grow feed for the cattle could be used to feed us!"
Except cattle is often fed the stuff we don't eat. Like, when we produce corn, we only eat the grain. Ever wonder what they do with the rest of the plant? They make kibble out of it. Cows, pigs and chickens love it. Same goes for most vegetables and fruits.
The animals are fed wheat and corn and soi. I doubt it would be healthy to replace chicken breasts with corn and bread. Cows eat grass. I don't think it would be healthy to replace kefir, yogurt, milk, butter, and cheese with grass.
Animals eat plants you baka. You have to pay all the plants the livestock eats + the animal itself. If goys eat the livestock food it's more efficient.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
See
homie, you can do some research and see how much producing meat costs compared to cereals. Google is your firend.
Also livestock eat mainly söy + cereal. Just because cows eat a bit of grass doesn't mean it’s their main diet.
>Google
Oh boy.
It's a fact homie, and anyone who knows about food production won’t deny it. Feeding people with livestock food is simple more efficient than feeding a cow with a ton of söy so you can eat a steak.
Anyway, my whole point is that globohomosexual moves because of economic interests. Too many goys? Let’s feed them with the cheapest shit we have, even if it’s unhealthy.
Taking your data on food production from vegetarians is like taking your data on sugar intake from Coke and Pepsi.
How is this proving your point about plants requiring more resources to produce compared to animals which do eat plants that you shills seem to leave that part out?
That's completely wrong because it takes a lot more growing of pants to feed the animals. The fact that some beef is grass fed doesn't change how much corn, onions or alfalfa is grown specifically for feeding animals.
Birth rates have declined almost everywhere except Africa homosexual shill
Well yeah, because we've educated women everywhere but black Africa. That's the strongest negative correlate with fertility.
Therefore no overpopulation except Africa, which has almost zero industry, China and India (they don't give a shit about the environment).
We've been overpopulated since the green revolution. The only reason modern populations are supported is because finite petrochemicals are used to produce fertilizer. Organic farming (even when it launders artificial nitrates from conventionally foddered manure) produces yields 20-30% lower than conventional. Or in other words, without petrochemicals, most of the world would starve - and we've artificially increased the population ceiling.
It's funny that one of the reasons vegans site for their refusal to eat meat is
>we don't harm animals to survive!
Well, it turns out, and a moron could probably figure this out, that plants are living entities and they can move, they can communicate with other plants, and they can also "feel" "pain". Shocker that an entity that can grow can also experience adverse sensory effects when it is damaged/destroyed.
So, knowing that, if these objectively morally superior vegans/vegetarians still refuse to accept that we were born, unbidden by our own wills, into this cruel reality and to continue to exist within it we must harm and consume other beings, then they never really cared about "harm", or whatever the frick kindergarten excuse they use, and only did it for the painfully obvious excuse of some pallid popularity payoff.
Animals are similar enough to us that I have nothing but respect for the people that want to show them mercy. Those who don't harm their own kind should be the norm. Those who don't even harm similar kinds are just exceptional people. The problem is that they're wrong about plants being a viable nutrition source and costing less from the planet. Meat is basically super refined plants (via cows eating them and us eating cows) which is why we've grown to be what we are and if it were even possible to refine them that much ourselves without killing things with faces it would cost the same amount of resources and effect the environment all the same anyway.
>it would cost the same amount of resources and effect the environment all the same anyway
No, growing food specifically for all the animals in factory farms takes very, very much more resources and arable land than it takes to grow the plants to feed as much people as the factory farm feeds.
Because bugs appear to be an abundant source of protein but in reality it's an absurd amount of fiber that's humanly impossible to eat just to get how much you need in a day. Similar to plants but amplified by 1000. If they can this off it'll be the israelite move of the millenium.
>Why does globohomosexual want to stop us from eating meat?
They're afraid of the future. They misunderstand economics, business and health.
They're afraid we won't have enough land to feed the population, so they want to replace livestock farming with the highest calorie per land use: fake meat and grains. Despite that most livestock graze on land that isn't suitable for agriculture.
They're afraid that fresh water will run out because cattle consume more of it than grains, so they want land to be used for grains. Despite that the majority of excess water livestock consumes includes water left in feed and rainwater in grass. Grass on hills you can't farm.
They're afraid the supply can't meet the demand of protein in the future, so they instead want to use the land to make fake meat which isn't as bioavailable, or use the grain to feed bugs, hoping for a SE asian style cultural shift, rather than raising more cattle.
They're afraid of global warming, so they want to replace livestock with grains despite the fact that cattle improves CO2 levels in soil, and as grains compost or break down, they release all their CO2. And because carbs aren't satiating and have to be processed, they'll double the amount of fuel use to transport it all.
And while they think they're helping the future, being moral, stopping needless dead cattle, they also profit.
They don't understand that animal fats are healthy. They don't care because seed oils cost nothing and the price controls on them keep them artificially cheap and they're probably the number one cause of heart disease. That cholesterol is necessary for testosterone production. That test is necessary for the future of the population, both men and women. The impossible burger has 0 cholesterol and estrogen levels fly through the roof after you consume one.
There are no healthy globohomosexual shills, even Arnold.
They are all cowards in corrupt circles, running on outdated data, who can't see the forest for the trees.
Same old story, same old buttholes.
Meat production accounts for alot of damage to the environment. They're actually starting to get a little conscious about the fact that the earth is slowly becoming inhabitable and if they kill off all the slavestock who is gonna make them profits?
Also lab grown meat and meat substitutes are going to eventually become so cheap and fast to manufacture that simply the time and effort to grow an animal will be cost-ineffective.
Also my last tinfoil hat theory is that throughout history meat was reserved only for the elites and this is their way of slowly domesticating the masse. "Don't do the thing you want to do, think about the environment!" they say, so you eat the bugs. Meanwhile China and the Middle East have pumped more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than you have in your entire life.
Left: people who write books on why you shouldn't eat any carbs
Right: people who say you shouldn't eat overt fats and meat
Reminds me of this. Just being American makes you fat.
anon, I'll give you a (you) but only because you got dubs
Both suck ass
Left: Healthy looking people with energy reserves
Right: crack addicts
>healthy
>RESERVED ENERGY
Holy cope
>comparing bodybuilders to non bodybuilders
Haha yeah totally the same
You started it you dumb frick.
>every reply is the same anon
It's medical doctors being compared with medical doctors. Why are vegan medical doctors so unhealthy?
Let me compare your father to a bodybuilder. They are both just people right? Its totally fair to call your father weak and decrepit because look at the bodybuilder
Let's compare medical doctors with medical doctors. Pic related.
If you combine the two you get a head full of hair and a balanced diet.
Left are pinning. I don't see your point.
Bottom left for sure is not.
Every doctor on the left is natty. You just can't imagine having muscle mass because you are plant-based.
>posts a varbie
Shoulders not big enough to be on gear
>20-30%
>most of the world
>starve
Think of how much food is wasted to begin with.
>Think of how much food is wasted to begin with.
Most food is going to be wasted in any practical supply chain. If you cannot handle massive wastage, people starve or become malnourished to get wacked by other maladies.
>most
Not most, but some sure
She's natty.
Why are left so red?
Vegans are sickly pale but don't realize they are unhealthy. That makes them (you) think healthy people have too much color in their skin.
Dude was green for a while
>Vegans are sickly pale but don't realize they are unhealthy.
Left had a worse skin tone than right
said no one
>said no one
Humans are not supposed to be red dummy
You should have a fresh skin tone though,
These morons on the right are DEF sick though. Vegan or not, you cant be a moron and be healthy. If youre gonna do veganism you better do it right. Get adequate exercise, sunlight, and eat real whole foods. Just because Oreos are vegan, doesnt mean that you should be eating them.
You should NOT be red. The bible details what you should be eating in an ideal lifestyle; Fruit bearing seed and herb of the field (Gen 1:29). Gods blessings are not given to the red skinned people (children of Esau), and will not inherit his kingdom. (Gen 25:25)
so Fatty's vs Skellies
dying early is just your soul detoxing from your body
remember to drink your lemon water and eat more beans resistance xisters!
>Playlist Script
>Hussar Ekologiczy
Canva should be outlawed
vegans always look like dogshit, so thats enough proof for me
Whenever we consume food and our bodies begin to break it down, compounds called free radicals are formed. These free radicals are essentially unpaired electrons that can cause damage to our DNA, our cells, and other structures in our body. While our body does have a lot of defense mechanisms against this, fruits and vegetables come naturally packaged with antioxidants, which help neutralize these free radicals. Antioxidants are amazing because they decrease inflammation in our body, prevent damage to our DNA that could lead to cancer down the road and prevent damage to our blood vessels which could lead to the build-up of plaques.
I try to eat mostly plant-based. That's not to say I don't eat meat at all or gorge on ice cream on occasion, but it's mostly plants.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0903485106
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12064344/
endogenous > exogenous
When nearly everyone ears cheap meat every day, the only way to produce all that meat cheaply enough is factory farming where it's often just a lifetime of torture for the animals.
That shit is why there are so many people that think it's wrong to eat meat.
I usually eat grass fed and finished. Picrel is my favorite
Yeah that's different, I was just talking about what most people eat most of the time
Don't care; still eating chicken breast.
Then do not eat factory farmed meat.
Eat game. In Australia it's illegal to farm kangaroo and (since it's a pest) it's abundant and cheap. Very lean and nutritious.
>why do they want to feed us plants instead of animals
I'd rather let third worlders starve than give up steaks tbqh
It's enough for just the first world to keep eating as much as we're currently eating to eventually make it impossible to produce as much meat as were eating now.
You'll eventually have to get rich to keep eating like you're currently eating because of how much destruction is necessary to sustain it.
Then poors will die? This isn't that hard. I would kill poor people to continue to eat steak. I don't give a shit about poor people or third worlders. I will not trade my steak so low IQ kids and the rest of us have to survive on low nutrient food.
The 1st world also needs a depopulation program. The SN cycle must also be broken.
So you're saying I should eat as much as possible while the getting's good.
The profit margins are much higher on plant goyslop. Not much profit is made on the sale of meat, but the profits of companies like monsanto that just make vegan kibble are massive.
Which one of you twiggy schizos said plants are for weaklings?
Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink. Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.
So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days. And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat. Thus Melzar took away the portion of their meat, and the wine that they should drink; and gave them pulse.
- Daniel 1:12-16
baboumian is a midget photoshopped fraud who pins extreme amounts of roids and gets 50% of his calories from s*y protein shakes, and has never competed in anything
>eat a bunch of meat
>build muscle
>go vegan
>try to maintain muscle mass with a shitload of steroids
>lifts still go down
great example, champ, I’m going vegan tonight
Meat has too much fat. Except chicken and fish. No one is forcing you to be vegan but the west has bad eating habits.
Okay, Karen.
Because cooked meat helped increase our brain size.
https://odysee.com/@Drashkael:0/Rabbi-Yosef-Tzvi-ben-Porat-will-explain-to-you:a
Veganism is used as a cover for anorexia. Seems to be the case here…
Are you okay? You're not having a stroke are you kid?
What about IST attracts some so many right wing morons? You’d think that since this is an anime/hentai/neet website that there wouldn’t be too many
leftism dies without censorship
>not being vegan is right wing
>anime is left wing
kekekekekeke
contrarianism and the freedom to be edgy
>I’m a leftist
>please explain a simple concept to me
>non sequitur
pottery
Most anti webs here tend to be right wing so yes it is related and thus not a non sequitur
One major problem with your comic: almost nobody is truly for free speech
Opposing your parents and superiors etc lost its charm so opposing le bad establishment, politicians, police, basically anyone contributing to the world is the next trend not just on IST but across the world. It's either that or these freaks shoot up a school
The anonymity and lack of censorship attracts edgy right wingers. IST's culture of self improvement and personal responsibility attracts normal people who lean right. The latter are deemed far right in other circles because the overtime window has shifted so far to the left.
Overton* window
no censorship
To make us weak and subservient. Really not that hard to figure out, anon. Why do you think this shit's gotten worse the more that T-levels decrease over the years?
A plant based diet is a good way to sustainably maintain a massive population of physically weak, docile humans
>51 posters
>145 replies
Every time.
Why does globohomosexual want you to eat the bugs?
Simply, they own this planet largely. There's a lot of real shit, including a climate crisis, that they caused, but they don't wanna pay for fixing it.
"The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must"
They'd rather first strip YOU (the common person) bare of every necessity or let you die in managed decline before any of their treats are touched.
because it's cheaper to produce vegan goyslop but they can sell it for more
Because animal agriculture is responsible for 78% of agri land use but only produces 20% of global calories. By 2080 we will have exhausted almost all topsoil, meaning that our darns wont be able to produce anything, entailing global starvation regardless of stuff like water shortages. The western consumption of meat will doom humanity
https://ourworldindata.org/agricultural-land-by-global-diets
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-farming-left-if-soil-degradation-continues/
This would require labor intensive farming practices - which is what mechanization and chemicals substitute for. This would make food prices spike.
No way around it, billions will starve. Hopefully we can limit to the <80 IQs, and hopefully we can stop them from breaking things.
There is no unringing the bell of the green revolution and the chemically intensive practices that came along with them, but for example even if we cut animal agriculture by half, we'd essentially be using 30% less land with the same calorie output, meaning either we can set aside huge swaths of arable land to naturally heal, or have lower crop yields on more land and practice regenerative agriculture to preserve and maintain topsoil.
Humanity's doom isnt a surefire thing, but it will be if we cant overpower our myopic greed. Half of the world starving will further destabilize the other half, and even people in the west will be starving in the topsoil-less scenario
Organic farming is basically impossible without livestock to break organic material down into manure. Conflating industrial farming with meat production is pants on head moronic.
Organic farming relies on laundered nitrogen and phosphates because the manure they import was not from animals fed with organic feed.
But yeah, the Global North should return to where its populations were in 1975 and the Global South to 1955 populations.
Every organic farmer I've seen on Youtube has some type of livestock, even a couple that I'm pretty sure are vegan. I guess these are homestead style farms and not industrial ones, but if they're not using compost and manure to fertilize how the frick can they be considered organic?
Subsistence agriculture is much more expensive per calorie in either dollars or time. They almost certainly do not get all their calories from their plot. Their yields per acre are thoroughly unimpressive compared to small commercial organic farms (a few hundred acres), which are the ones that use the aforementioned laundered phosphates and nitrogren. And their yields are unimpressive compared to conventional agriculture, which relies on the Haber-Bosch process.
An all-organic world is the world of the 1900s, where food cost 20% of a family's monthly budget, populations were a fraction of what they are now, most people were 2-3" shorter than today, and crop failure was an actual concern.
A few of them are pretty close to 100% thanks to focusing heavily on potatoes/sweet potatoes, but for the most part they're producing calorie light fruits and vegetables since those are more profitable for home growing and small scale selling. Is there seriously a requirement that manure can only come from animals that ate only organic feed? That's absolutely moronic if true.
>Is there seriously a requirement that manure can only come from animals that ate only organic feed?
No, it's not a requirement; which is why you should be skeptical that the results of going full-organic would be anything besides billions dead and billions in permanent malnourishment. Commercial organic yields are artificially higher than what was simply agriculture pre-Green Revolution in part because the manure they import contains laundered nitrogrens and phosphates.
To stay weak and sick.
They want to free up the land. Currently farming takes up 65%+ of the land in any given country to create farms for animals and agriculture. Land which can be used to build more factories, warehouses, businesses, cities, towns, etc. Animals need more space than vegetables, so they can be removed to get that space faster. Insects are being shilled because they take up less space than traditional meat sources.
Bigger picture, climate change will at best be mitigated, not stopped, in our lifetimes we will see humanitarian disasters beyond our comprehension as oceans rise and wipe out coastal towns and cities (i.e. most towns and cities) forcing migration on the scale of billions inland. Where do we put them all? We don't have the space! It's all taken up by houses which belong to the rich who can afford to live in safety away from the tide. These elites are aware that if the plebs are homeless they will soon pick up pitchforks, so instead they provide them with cheap ghettos to live in. Where are these ghettos? Where the farms used to be. We will be housed in cramp buildings as our planet floods, fed bugs and vegetables as they will be the only things we can fit alongside our homes as land becomes more scarce, and we will be just comfortable enough to not revolt against our masters.
>Where do we put them all?
In the ground. The population explosions of the 20th century should never have been allowed to happen. We need eugenics and sterilization based on IQ. This is the titanic. No affirmative action allowed.
I used to eat minimum 500g of meat daily but I recently started doing 5 days on 2 days off vegetarianism. I agree with the broad environmental and ethical sentiments of veganism but I hate the culture and the health deficits. I actually feel like I have more energy now and the 2 meat days are a real treat.