Meat is essential for fitness

Why is globohomo so against meat eating?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >globohomo

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they don't want you fit.
    There is more money to be made selling the medicine than the curative. And a weak population dependent on automation is far easier to control.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they don't want you fit
      It's worse than this. It's not that they want don't want you to be fit. It's that they want you to be weak.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, I just want you to eat your goddamn vegetables.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >yes goy eat the tannins and goytrogens and oxalates

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You really have to question someone who feels the need yo have you eat what they eat, or say they eat. You know instantly their intentions are malignant.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But if you want them to be weak it helps a lot if you poison food, put plastic in everything and brainwash them to accept diets that make people weak

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    She looks like a rabbit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      She eats like a rabbit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      She is one

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      She fucks like a... starfish.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based fruitarian.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Her head looks too big for her body. She isn’t eating enough food, and it’s very hard to eat enough on just vegetables.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Veganism destroys tits and it's such a shame. I've seen many busty babes turn their tits into deflated sacks of nothing after falling into the yoga vegan trend.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen it too. They turn into little cabbage bags.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do carnicucks w/ 220+ cholesterol levels (Shawn Baker, Sv3rige, look up their bloodwork) who are at significant risk for CVD strawman plant-based diets by showing you images of vegan raw food cultists who don't even eat grains or legumes?

    I eat fish once or twice a week, meat once or twice a month. I'm living to 100. You're dying at 75.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Body with timestamp

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vegan fitness gurus are some of the least healthy people on the planet. If they can't make veganism work, who can?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The hairstyles really complement each other

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And carnivore freaks do roids and shill supplements and "cookbooks" lol.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Carnivores are healthy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lol ok bud

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post body, vegan scum

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is cholesterol actually a problem though? They claim it's a meme and not the cause of heart disease

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cholesterol is actually good for you. Low cholesterol is associated with death.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So according to this graph i should aim for 220 cholesterol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's just a correlation.

            You should eat meat, eggs, and dairy. Avoid sugar, flour, and vegetable oil. Get sunlight, exercise, and sleep. Then your cholesterol will be perfect whatever number it is.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah for sure. I recently learned that it was probably seed oils making me tired but i'm trying to reintroduce sugar and flour without the seed oils because i'm french and i wanna eat croissant and pasta and bread. Butter and olive oil and tallow only seems to work pretty well.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you believe this then you are actually retarded.
          this graph basically tells you that people in piss poor countries die more than people in rich country.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is retarded, rich countries have significantly higher living standards apart from that. Of course they'll live more.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Is cholesterol actually a problem though?
        yes

        >They claim it's a meme and not the cause of heart disease
        no, "they" don't

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post nose, garden gnome scum.

          Cholesterol isn't bad until it reaches astonishingly high levels (in fact, ver low cholesterol leves INCREASE mortality rate).
          Inflammation is.
          Arteries don't accumulate cholesterol in their walls unless there's chronic, persistent inflammation present.
          Grassfed meat is only mildly inflammatory, which can be 100% compensated by a meat+vegetables balanced diet.
          Industrialized food is highly inflammatory even if it's "vegan" infustrialized food.

          garden gnome.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >meat+vegetables balanced diet
            Lmao fag, why ruin good meat with shitty toxic vegs? All the nutrients you need are in the meat, and if you want antioxidants you've got m-tor.
            Name one animal besides the zogbot that eats a "balanced" diet, fag.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Chimps?
              LMAO

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Bugs (ants, termites) account for roughly 4% of a wild chimpanzee’s weight loss plan
                >meat and different animal merchandise can account for six%
                source: https://www.primatespark.com/chimpanzee-diet/

                The definition of a carnivore is 70% of more of the diet being meat.
                Chimps eating 90% vegetable and some 10% random shit doesn't make them omnivorous, just like cows and horses aren't omnivorous eventhough they'll eat meat without problems.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's a correlation because studies are made using amerifats subjects and in US high meat intake is correlated with shit diet in general

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Americans barely eat any meat at all. They mostly eat sugar, flour, and vegetable oil. Plant based.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This, and most of the meat they eat is shit tier.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes that's his point.
            The studies about MUH CHOLESTEROL (which doesn't do shit) is based on plant munching retards that eat a little meat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The standard western diet is full of inflammatory things that shouldn't be and never were food until about 150 years ago, now these things are standard fare that you eat every single day, every single meal.
        >seed oils
        >refined sugar
        >preservatives
        Here's the thing. Our ancestors didn't have access to these foods. Even the past 9000-14000 years when we've had agriculture, we haven't had access to them. Polyunsaturated fat is about 2% of ancestral diets from modern hunter gatherer tribes no matter if they eat primarily fucking coconuts or red meat.
        When you eat seed oils, they're already well on their way to complete oxidation on the store shelf. Then they enter your bloodstream as fats do, and the oxidized byproducts have literally been scientifically proven to damage LDL.
        Then there's blood sugar. Unchecked levels of blood sugar due to insulin resistance is pretty damn common nowadays. So is eating oxidized crap. When your blood sugar is too high, your LDL is susceptible to damage called glycation.
        Cholesterol is a very tightly controlled system in your body. You need the right amount in the right places in order to build cell membranes and countless other functions. A checks and balances of sorts exists within your liver where it can recognize lipoproteins containing cholesterol and regulate their number and use within the body. It recognizes them based on the proteins.
        When you have oxidative stress paired with high blood sugar, you get oxidized and damaged LDL particles that your liver cannot recognize as a functioning lipoprotein, so it stays in circulation and you even have systems that attempt to take care of and dispose of it safely. However, when you're dumping too much load on this system, it starts to break down, it can't handle this much oxidized LDL, and it continues to circulate and accumulate into larger particles which then deposit into your inflamed endothelium. This happens long enough and you've got a blocked artery. Then you're dead

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ancestral diets
          Fallacy detected: appeal to tradition
          Opinion: ignored

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is merely used as an example of a time when people in general were much more metabolically healthy. That is undeniable and so is the PUFA content of any ancestral diet.
            That's actually not even essential to my argument though, and you can't fucking read.

            >Beautiful golden color skin (needs tan, but solid foundation)
            >Meat eating has red inflamed skin, indicative of acidosis
            >Holding a ton of water
            There is a reason why women instinctively prefer the left kek

            not that it matters, but this could all be lighting. it looks like he has way more tan on his arms in the 2nd pic. First pic he looks super pale. Do you see that his underarm and his forearm are like the same color?
            Fucking pale lol
            also left looks like a fucking anorexic gayboy I don't think too many women enjoy that look

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >a time when people in general were much more metabolically healthy
              You're just making shit up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ancestral diet
                >1990
                Are you actually retarded?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry I thought data relevant to when PUFAs, preservatives, and seed oils were introduced would make sense to you seeing as that's what you were talking about. We can back further if you want because the claim that "ancestors" are much more metabolically healthy is still horseshit. Is 1960 far enough back?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                PUFAs were introduced like 150 years ago, but they've steadily been gaining traction replacing saturated fat in the western diet.
                You really don't even know enough to discuss this with honestly.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry I thought data relevant to when PUFAs, preservatives, and seed oils were introduced would make sense to you seeing as that's what you were talking about. We can back further if you want because the claim that "ancestors" are much more metabolically healthy is still horseshit. Is 1960 far enough back?

                These are literally just life expectancy graphs you dumbass. Anon is talking about your ability to extract useful energy from food. Not the amount of people starving. The average person used to eat far less food and do far more work. Basically everyone is working inside and consuming like triple the calories our parents and grandparents did.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Retard

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Race Detected: moron
            Buck Status: Broken

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i hear our ancestors didn't like drinking bleach so maybe you should try that

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh cholesterol
      lol kys gay, the problem isn't "high cholesterol", it's cholesterol imbalance
      which you easily correct by avoiding seed oils and eating fatty fish and eggs constantly

      Cope carnist gay

      >eat tons of meat for years, get on gear and get huge
      >keep blasting and become vegan
      >hey guys look at this vegan bodybuilder!
      cope retards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Patrik has entered the chat

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Patrik
          LOL. perfect example why vegans are always inferior

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          didnt he get injured years ago and still hasnt recovered lol?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He got big and strong on meat then switched to veganism lol. Also way overstates his accomplishments to normie media

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >skinning with based Opinel
        Basé le chasseur

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          j'adore les Opinel, c'est pas cher, ultra solide. si t'es un vrai tu prends pas l'inox aussi. ça sert à tout, autant dehors que dans la cuisine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Je me posais la question si le tiens était en carbone justement, je ne voyais pas de patine sur ton couteau qui travaille pourtant avec du sang
            C'est très fiable en tout cas, facile à affûter, léger et ça coupe bien.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              c'est pas ma photo malheureusement, je cherchais un truc pour énerver les vegans du thread. en général ce genre de photo les dégage

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Propre

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do carnicucks w/ 220+ cholesterol levels (Shawn Baker, Sv3rige, look up their bloodwork) who are at significant risk for CVD strawman plant-based diets by showing you images of vegan raw food cultists who don't even eat grains or legumes?
      What else they can do? They have no factual basis for their nonsense.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You’re surviving to 100 anon, not living. Sad!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      because they're mentally ill. it's their crusade. no different from being a jehova's witness.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You're dying at 75.
      This is a bad thing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I really wouldn’t tempt fate that way any given day your chance to die in a car accident is something like 30%

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just eat the fucking bugs and stop asking questions motherfucker.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what's wrong with bugs besides the unappealing nature? I get that plant based diets are missing nutrients and complete proteins, but what are bugs missing? Not trolling genuinely curious

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing. The "complete protein" thing is a myth too, you get all your essential amino acids from legumes and grains, just not in the same bite.

        The bugs thing is just more antisemitism, implying that garden gnomes are trying to get you to eat bugs because ~~*they*~~ are pushing an agenda.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This poster has been kicked out of 109 gyms.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks for clarifying anon. looks like i love not eating bugs now

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        there is nothing wrong with them. now drink this cockroach juice and eat this larvae burger.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that fucking wrist

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's what STRENGTH looks like, carnifascist.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >OH GOD IMMM DEETOOOXXIIIINNNN!!!!
        detoxing of life

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the detooxer... sips dandelion tea
          coffee enemas...
          raw vegan, "becuase it's healthy" ironically loses health... low bonedensity, tooth caries, anti-nutrients.

          please someone make this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

        These retards destroy their body with gay plants but still have full hair, while I get fucked by the norwood reaper. Fuck this gay earth.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They don't. Eating calorie surplus and massive amounts of protein is much more destructive for your body's longevity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what no HWD does to a mfer lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        YIKES
        10 years? More like 10 eons.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It could just be genetic, she already looks 30 at 18

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Could be her diet.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is so sad. I’m 29 and I constantly get told by people that they thought I was anywhere between 21-24. How can women even compete?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't think you know how averages work.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cope carnist gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Clarence Kennedy is the perfect example of vegans who roid. Dude was an absolutely pathetic skeleton of a man, and even after going crazy on gear he hardly looks bigger than any ordinary dude because shit frame isn't easy to fix.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >He hardly looks bigger than any ordinary dude
        Dysmorphia moment.
        Clarence is definitely bigger than ordinary people, and also trains weightlifting not bodybuilding. Getting bulkier would limit mobility and make him a worse lifter. His physique is very similar to most pro weightlifters who aren't superheavies, and most of them eat meat and they all do drugs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          holy fuck potter

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >all of his lifts are going down
          >gets injured constantly
          be careful who you fanboy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He'll just start eating eggs secretly and claim going raw vegan fixed all his problems

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I literally don't give a shit about veganism or carnivorism or roids or whatver, but Clarence is literally world-class in several lifts dude. C'mon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he's literally a world-class weightlifter. How can you cope this hard when you can't even bench 2 plates?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roids his tits off

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Globohomo wants you sick and hooked onto any fad that comes along.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally nobody believes meat is essential for fitness except grifters selling keto diets. As for globohomo you mean garden gnomes and all the most prominent keto influencers are garden gnomes spreadingt that filth in white countries because they want to kill white people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A grade shitposting, now post body with a timestamp

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Watching leftists try to shill on IST is always amusing. It's like a group of fat liberal women sitting around a table said
      >IST? they're antisemites right?
      >let's make antisemeitic propaganda
      >great idea sheila, this will get those nazis to stop eating meat for sure!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's beyond necessary to home school your kids nowadays lol. that's why i want to marry a primary school teacher

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what book lol?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If white people created the concept of “race” then how were they considered “white” before creating “race?”

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's one of the main leftist psyops - to say race doesn't exist and white people made it up to oppress "people of colour".
          They try and use more or less real science in a lame way to mislead people, claiming that the casual definitions of race (white/asian/black/etc) aren't 100% accurate to genetics, so therefore race is not real and humans are all one race.
          For example, people would colloquially define both somalians and bantus as black, since they both have dark skin and are sub-saharan African phenotypes. Leftoids will take this example and say
          >Bantus and Somalians are distinct genetically, therefore you're wrong about calling them both black and race isn't real
          It's quite homosexual really

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Watching leftists try to shill on IST is always amusing.
        I think it's annoying. Because leftist truly don't understand the way other people think: they project. In their world if someone does a nono all their ideas, work and value go into the thrash. And since they think being a garden gnome is a right wing nono they'll link that to the thing they don't like in the hopes we'll cancel it. It's on the level of a 7 year old girl calling something a girl thing in the hopes her brother don't want to play with it anymore. That's why it's annoying to me.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Very based analysis, actually.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. They really are pathetic.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Accurate analysis, anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm keto for years and I've never heard of any of these people except for Atkins. Atkins fase 1 is keto but that only last for a week or two and then it's no longer keto but high protein. The fact that Atkins even made the list shows that the person that made it doesn't know how keto works.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IST has pictures of 1 (one) person who is literally anorexic that they tote out every couple days to try to prove that meat is the most important thing in the world.

    We have industrial agriculture and most foods are fortified now, we aren't doing subsistence farming anymore and don't need to rely on meat.

    Milk, cheese, and eggs are more than enough, nice to have but not even essential as you can get all the protein you need from legumes, all the iron you need from leafy greens and cereals, all the B vitamins you need from milk and bread.

    Take the lentil pill and save hundreds of dollars on groceries.

    >t. Vegetarian with 4 months lifting progress

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fortified
      Artificially adding vitamins to food products does not make it bioavailable.
      That said vegetarianism hardly compares to veganism diet-wise considering you still have access to nutrient-dense animal like eggs and milk products. Veganism is what's being promoted usually. I would assume that most modern vegans would consider vegetarians on the the same level as omnivores from an ethical perspective.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >animal
        animal products

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Artificially adding vitamins to food products does not make it bioavailable.
        Prove it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Artificially adding vitamins to food products does not make it bioavailable.
        This isn't true. Nutrients in fortified foods are no less bioavailable than in naturally occuring sources, usually they are more bioavailable because they are compounded with organic molecules, for example ascorbic acid and NaFeEDTA, which make iron supplementation more bioavailable than natural sources.

        >Veganism is what's being promoted usually. I would assume that most modern vegans would consider vegetarians ...
        Most vegans don't recommend everyone go vegan, or even vegetarian. Most vegans recommend people reduce their personal meat consumption, and they agitate for animal rights. Veganism is more of a political position than it is diet-based militancy and elitism. That's just a strawman that gets tossed about online because the debate isn't actually about nutrition. Similarly, anti-vegan threads aren't actually about giving healthy diet advice, it just champions meat-eating as an ideology. Look at all the psychos in this thread talking about feminization and ~~*them*~~ and big pharma. The vegan/vegetarian/omnivore "debate" isn't about diet choices, nutrition, and an evidence-based approach to health. It's ideological.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're projecting.

          You're motivated by emotion. You encounter disagreement. You assume the disagreeing party is motivated by emotion, but opposite emotions to your own. They're actually motivated by logic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Beautiful golden color skin (needs tan, but solid foundation)
            >Meat eating has red inflamed skin, indicative of acidosis
            >Holding a ton of water
            There is a reason why women instinctively prefer the left kek

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >sickly pale vegan sees a healthy person
              >'wow that person is all red and stuff they must be unhealthy'

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >person on the left looks like a dyel cancer ridden pale sickly skelly
              >person on the right is strong, virile, well proportioned, and actually grew some male hairs
              >women prefer the crackhead aesthetics of the patient

              Wtf are you smoking to be this delusional

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >There is a reason why women instinctively prefer the left
              Must be bait

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You seem pretty emotional considering you have a whole folder dedicated "owning" the vegans and make this thread fucking daily.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You got me. I'm motivated by love.

              I love humans and I am happy to see them healthy. Meat makes humans healthy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao based kidney stone and cancer oil cultist.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Kidney stones
        I drink a ton of water because I'm in creatine, also animal proteins increase kidney stone formation so idk what you're on about.
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24518789/

        >Cancer oil
        I only use olive oil? But enjoy your bowel cancer from your tasty steakums I guess.
        https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8388548_Diet_and_cancer_prevention

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >posting the fake as fuck incel keys study
          OH NO NO!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roiding for this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're delusional if you think this is an unnatural physique lmao. Have you tried lifting weights?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's awfully imbalanced, yet those protruding veints and overdeveloped biceps in just 4 months scream roids.
          so not only you roided, you only did curls.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            My biceps are tiny and I have a single vein in my scrawny ass arm lmao. I don't curl or do core because working out for aesthetics is vain as shit, rows and chin-ups is the closest I get to bicep isolation. It is really unbalanced though, I'm in a volume phase tryna even it out.

            >a time when people in general were much more metabolically healthy
            You're just making shit up.

            I ditzed around in the gym for a year in highschool but wasn't really doing anything productive, probably hit 1pl8 bench 2pl8 squat and never deadlifted. I played varsity basketball, 100m/400m/800m track, and ultimate frisbee in high school. I spent several summers as a backcountry guide doing canoe trips so got decent shoulders and upper back from that, that shits hard work. Before I started lifting I was pretty much just cycling and running for a couple years so I was skinny as shit, except my quads. I started lifting in February when the gyms opened up, hopped on GOMAD and AMRAP fork pickups, and lifted 5 days a week. I'm barely 170lbs in this pic at a little over 6ft.

            Feels kinda good to be accused of frauding, I think I look like shit and this is more attention than I get in cbt threads tbh.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >backcountry guide doing canoe trips
              Sounds like an MNfag to me

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not even the right country. You know other places in the world have boats right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                cringe, chill out. coulda just said where you were located instead of being an autist

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              looking good, I would try and go for bulk size with that frame

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah thats cool man, but then it isn't 4 months of progress there lmao.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roiding for this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        First see

        You're delusional if you think this is an unnatural physique lmao. Have you tried lifting weights?

        Then see

        My biceps are tiny and I have a single vein in my scrawny ass arm lmao. I don't curl or do core because working out for aesthetics is vain as shit, rows and chin-ups is the closest I get to bicep isolation. It is really unbalanced though, I'm in a volume phase tryna even it out.

        [...]
        I ditzed around in the gym for a year in highschool but wasn't really doing anything productive, probably hit 1pl8 bench 2pl8 squat and never deadlifted. I played varsity basketball, 100m/400m/800m track, and ultimate frisbee in high school. I spent several summers as a backcountry guide doing canoe trips so got decent shoulders and upper back from that, that shits hard work. Before I started lifting I was pretty much just cycling and running for a couple years so I was skinny as shit, except my quads. I started lifting in February when the gyms opened up, hopped on GOMAD and AMRAP fork pickups, and lifted 5 days a week. I'm barely 170lbs in this pic at a little over 6ft.

        Feels kinda good to be accused of frauding, I think I look like shit and this is more attention than I get in cbt threads tbh.

        If you don't think this scrawny physique is achievable natty I genuinely feel badly for you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          your body looks all deformed m8. you don't lift and are roiding

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >deformed
            Yeah okay buddy
            >roiding
            Cope that a vegetarian looks better than you.

            You won't post body. Crabs never do.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Take the lentil pill and save hundreds of dollars on groceries.
      I can't save hundreds though. My groceries cost me $150 for a month, and I eat almost exclusively animal products.
      >chicken, eggs, milk, butter, liver, broccoli

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because boomers fucked the earth six ways to sunday and now are pushing all the responsibility onto us to try to not extinct the human race

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dont forget, they crashed the global economy because covid effects old people most. they would rather the entire system fail and we deal with hyperinflation and recession for years to come than accept their fate and pass down their wealth

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pic related
        MY FUCKING SIDES Anon, I can only laugh so much

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Escaped 4chan about two years ago, but this one is still funny and true.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The whole point of ~~*their*~~ agenda is to feminize men with by pushing feminism which made a generation of feminized men raised in broken homes by muh independent single mothers who dont know how to raise strong men. Then you add estrogen in the food/water supply, fag & chud propaganda, fake meat, veganism, onions, "straight" guys with nail paint and skirts, & now they are grooming kids outright in the schools. They are purposefully weakening the men en masse, because weak men dont start revolutions. When they poke and prod, it is like dipping a finger into the pool to see how hot cold it is. They are checking to see how hard they must up the ante. Back to back mass shooting is evidence that they are pushing a little too hard.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine being so insecure in your masculinity that you're this unhinged over the concept of eating beans.

      Fucking schizo.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just had rice, black beans, avocado and salmon for breakfast? In fact i need to wash out my croc pot and make some more rice

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Beans have antinutrients. They're starvation prevention at best. I pay good money to get quality nutrition and I can't afford to waste it on antinutrients.
        I don't eat them, but you're welcome to.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The major antinutrients found in plant-based foods are phytates, tannins, lectins, oxalates, etc. Antinutrients in vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts are a concern only when a person’s diet is composed exclusively of uncooked plant foods.

          https://openbiotechnologyjournal.com/VOLUME/13/PAGE/68/FULLTEXT/

          Unless you have something more compelling than an MS paint graph about zinc absorption I'm gonna keep eating beans, because zinc deficiency is only an issue for people in developing nations without the food security we have.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            As I said, you are welcome to eat them.
            I fucking hate beans anyway, taste like shit without dressing them up and they make me fart like bloated corpse.

            100% plant based

            picrel they can ferment plant matter in their gut unlike humans.
            This is the most fucking retarded argument of all time I swear it is just a shitpost but I feel the need to respond so I guess good b8

            >a time when people in general were much more metabolically healthy
            You're just making shit up.

            Having metabolic health isn't the same as starving to death ya fucking retard.
            Also this chart shows only 20 years of data, I'm talking about thousands of years.
            You are so fucking dumb. People weren't fat in nearly anywhere close to the same numbers even 100 years ago. Are you disputing that?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >vegcels will continue to comune with crystals and deny science

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >For the study, researchers measured blood levels of a fatty acid found mostly in dairy foods in 4,150 60-year‑olds in Sweden, a county known for its love of dairy-based foods.
      LOL what a joke

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How so, gay?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you can't figure it out, you are probably better off believing the study lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, so you admit you’re wrong + a retarded gay moron? Epic.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They want you to be weak.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a billion people in south east Asia and coastal Africa move from poverty into their future as a consumer-customer in the global economy, there is a concerted effort to lower the standard of living for the middle class
    This standard lowering is required for two reasons: (1) Previously wealthy states are now comparably less powerful (2) The resources necessary to cater to a few billion steal eaters is much greater than the resources necessary to sell them plant/insect protein - and the end result is equal* levels of protein consumption
    So, it’s due to both the relative decline of the west and the increasing demand from the ‘global south’

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real reason is less because they have a problem of people eating meat and the health impacts on people, but because they have some weird autistic savior complex towards Africa. They want to believe their own liberal propaganda so they have to do everything to prop Africa up in order to justify their belief system. So they need more and more food supplies for this product, and the more people are eating meat, which is more resource intensive, the less food they can provide.

    First they “solve” medical problems in Africa by supplying free medicine and services so mortality rate goes down, allowing a larger population growth and less children dying in early childhood. Then there are more people that they can possibly sustain, so they have to subsidize their foods through charities grown in other parts of the world. Then they don’t have enough viable water, so they need to send in charities to build new wells and find new ways to get water to the communities.

    The reality is if the west did nothing and just left Africa alone their population would collapse, but they would be able
    to once again sustain themselves and would live more happy and fulfilling lives. It would free up more resources in the west, and would create less social pressures from immigration. Overall everyone would benefit in the long run, but this is assuming that you think it’s morally okay for Africans to live according to their current realities and have to contend with the forces of nature (which would be a more fulfilling life for them) as opposed to thinking that it’s better for them to be social charity leeches (which is less fulfilling for them).

  18. 2 months ago
    KetoSchizo

    I approve this thread, please refer to me as ketosissy from now on. If you see me post be sure to post your feet (male)

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just stop being a gay and eat both?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They NEVER post their bodies on here. Ever. Me thinks its a ploy by people that arent vegan to make them look retarded by saying stupid shit and never following through.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    100% plant based

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    garden gnomes push every meme diet equally to prevent the goyim from figuring out the truth. Just eat a balanced diet and trust your instincts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My instincts tells me you're a retarded gay
      And they're right

  23. 2 months ago
    KetoSchizo

    OP here, please join my discord and Facebook group. Also my favorite subreddit is /r/antivegan. I browse there every day. My username is /u/antimoxyte and my YouTube channel is /y/imgayyyyyyyy33e3
    Like follow and subscribe!

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    eating meat makes my dick tingle, fuck yeah

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You answered your own question in the post dumbass.
    >Meat is essential for fitness

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is basically zero profit in meat unless it's garbage tier factory stuff. That's why garden gnomes want to remove it from the diet along with all other traditional foods. It's not just all the big food companies that are anti-meat (almost everything they produce is plant based) but industries like pharma and "healthcare" are propped up by sicknesses caused by malnutrition.

    The last thing any of these massive industries wants is people being self-sufficient and eating traditional diets, because they have no need for big food, big pharma or healthcare.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >essential

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do I achieve TOADMODE like in your pci?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        1. Become a vegan

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the fuck measurement is a serving?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, thats part of the reason why its so hard to feed your recovery as a vegan. The portion sizes are fucking astronomical. 100g of pasta alone is quite a lot; it will sit in your stomach and GST for fucking hours.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > not posting his 675 squat

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cherry picking some retards who do raw vegan shit
    Please, I've been vegan for 15 years and I lift more than 99.9% of you gays look more healthy than 99.9% of you gays.

    You literally cannot name any nutrient you cannot get in vegan form directly from food or from supplements. Sure, if you think going vegan equals that you only eat oats and broccoli, you're going to end looking malnourished.

    Go gaze the Sun like your daddy Sv3rige thought.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post yourself lifting.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is how baker looked when he put down the roids for a few months, than he hopped right back on because of the roasting.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post sauce for right or stfu

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a fake photoshopped image. Vegans post it all the time. They HATE Shawn Baker because he advocates meat eating.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That interview he did on Mark Bell's podcast with Stan Efferding was legit. Love how even Stan, who loves his fucking rice, agreed with most of what he had to say. His insta is also funny af

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stan is smart but I think his nutrition advice is skewed by his steroid use. He doesn't understand the need for fat people to stop eating all carbs including rice

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is eating a bit of rice fine?
                I've wanted to cut it out of my diet because it's kind of a nutritional waste, but cooking it in my cast iron pan keeps the pan damn near spotless without any effort to clean it on my part, and it tastes great after soaking up all the meat juice and butter. I eat a quarter cup (cry volume) a day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you're trying to lose body fat rice is counterproductive. Seems fine for bulking though. If I was bulking I'd get my carbs from milk but to each their own.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Eh idk I think if a given fat person trains hard enough then some carbs isn't the end of the world, assuming that they're limiting it to the end of the day and not jacking up their insulin levels all day. If nothing else, the Vertical Diet could be a nice transition into keto or carnivore if you needed to go that route to keep the fat coming off or just like the way it feels.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          kek right looks just like my dad (never lifted but splitting wood is his hobby)

          love you old man

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post body

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's at least 20. You can pick any micronutrient and it will be in the wrong form for humans, plus you have anti-nutrients negating what little there is to absorb. You people are hilarious talking tough like we have seen thousands and thousands of you scrawny mentally ill gays plagueing the internet already.

      Vegans always physically deteriorate, even the roiders

      • 2 months ago
        KetoSchizo

        Yyaaaassss queen I too listen to everything /r/keto tells me!! You must be a genious like meeeee yaaaaaaas

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not doing keto, twink boy. There are plenty of subreddits for you so y gays to stay in. This is a fitness board, animal foods are essential for optimal health and fitness. Take your garden gnome ideology somewhere else.

          • 2 months ago
            KetoSchizo

            Yes babe you tell those dirty carb wanters! Carbs are what made my first marriage fall apart (we weren't actually married because it was not legal yet back then haha team keto!) ever since I took the /r/antivegan pill like OP (80% REPLY RATIO) I've become more straight and lost a bunch of wait

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Meds, now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He needs meat and eggs, not more pharmaceuticals.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is the exact same graph someone posted earlier but with different formatting. It's the second time it's been posted without a source, and unless you have evidence to support that vegetarians or vegans are zinc deficient it is meaningless as well as baseless.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >or from supplements
      If you have to add anything as a supplement to get what you need then your diet sucks ass

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because garden gnomes want to humiliate non garden gnomes every possible way they can.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm vegan and my lifts are 4/2.5/5 after two and a half years of training and I'm 90kg at 16% bf. What are yours gay?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vegans lie any time they think lying will save animals.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, rate my /r/keto gains

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where did you get this picture? This is my 2nd cousin

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, I hate vegans because they look better than me and have way more sex than me.
    Thanks for listening to my rant, I'm going to go make up arguments against vegans I've never even talked to with my keto discordtrannies until I fall asleep from my immense high keto energy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >my immense high keto energy.
      Keto doesn't give you high energy but you don't get that crash a few hours after eating carbohydrates. Also vegan or omnivore just eat enough carbohydrates and it will happen. Saw it at my Memorial day party where everybody was falling asleep a few hours after we ate... except for me.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never experience this. I just had 200g dry weight spaghetti with ketchup 2 hours ago, and feel great.
        t. not-a-carblet

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weak citizens are easier to control.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was vegetarian for 5 years. Started eating meat a few times a week in the last year.
    Meat really is essential to a healthy diet. But you can absolutely eat healthy without it, the bigger issue is how shit food tastes and how easy it is to compensate that with unhealthy sugary things.

    • 2 months ago
      Ketoschizo

      You coming to play league or what fellow ketochad?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The main issue is that a vegan diet isn’t what our ancestors ate hundreds of years ago. It’s not hard to figure out why this is a reasonable presumption. Figure out your MBR (probably 1800 - 2000) and then buy 2K calories of fruits and veggies.

      If it looks like it’s too much to find in a single day of scavenging, you would probably be right. Meanwhile, it was relatively easy to hunt something and it wasn’t hard to get 2K calories per day from eating meat.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    keep believing that you need to pay for rape, torture and murder of harmless animals.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cow hormones aren't vegan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find it hard to believe anyone has never eaten meat, especially someone who is a bodybuilder and especially someone who is making their living off of it.

      On the other hand I don't find it hard to believe an influencer would lie. Maybe he justifies it to himself somehow like that doesn't count as it was only temporary and to see what it was like. The only people who have reached adulthood without ever tasting meat are going to be cuckoo.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The only people who have reached adulthood without ever tasting meat are going to be cuckoo
        Or Hindu. Or Buddhist.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implying
          Hindus and Buddhists ARE cuckoo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      he also claims natty you moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        like every other IFBB pro

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >posting 60 year old next to 30 year old roidchud who still looks weak
      lmao the cope

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >those wrists
      lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about all those animals that are killed as pests to protect vegan crops?they needlessly die. At least with meat production the animals are used from meat, to bones, to cartilage etc there's barely any waste.
      But yeah sure keep shilling your "kinder" way of life knowing that farmers are killing every animal from rats, mice, moles, foxes, birds etc to keep your 'vegan' produce unspoiled. Tard.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What about all those animals that are killed as pests to protect vegan crops?they needlessly die
        Majority of all crops are grown to feed livestock. Cows eat way more grain and onions than humans, if you care so much about crop deaths, stop buying meat. Plus your ideology is just pathetic "we can't stop all animal deaths, so it's okay to breed and murder trillions of animals"

        > At least with meat production the animals are used from meat, to bones, to cartilage etc there's barely any waste.
        You have no idea what you're talking about.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          In the USA, 40% of food is wasted (not eaten).
          Only 14% of that is animal products, the rest is plant food.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Parts that were thrown away without ever being considered food doesn't get counted as wasted food.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Choosing to ignore the fact that farmed crops still have pest issue's which results in animals being killed to protect crops

          Choosing to ignore the fact that the majority of animal and animal by product are usable not only as food, but as other products.

          I see you're clinically retarded & can't comprehend basic facts.

          The malnutrition rotting your brain

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh not to mention the breeding and keeping of livestock being the majority reason for animals existing now days. Seeing as without human intervention they'd breed until becoming pests, or the fact that without human intervention the diseases that would wipe them out. But sure let vegan's get their way and whittle species down into tiny minorities.
            Your arguments are retarded and based solely on emotional delusion.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Choosing to ignore the fact that farmed crops still have pest issue's which results in animals being killed to protect crops
            That also applies to the plants grown to feed animals so it doesn't affect his point.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Crops aren't grown to feed animals. They're grown for humans. Animals are fed waste.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this thread just proves you shouldn't accept a damn thing IST says. Look at all the midwits in this thread posting cherry picked pics of this Vegan or that Carnivore actually trying to pass it off as good evidence for XYZ diet. Only a minority of anons have posted any good empirical arguments.

    You're all a bunch of dumb fucking gays.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why not just do something because it works it’s the right and natural way instead of having to question everything and trust söyence?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this. my dad and brothers and gramps ate excessive meat and were athletic and fit as fuck. I know that works for a fact why would I torture myself with beans and rabbit food for no reason

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Veganism is the most stupid psyops anyone can possibly fall for, and i don't pity any of the retards that inevitably end up ruining themselves.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you know ~~*why*~~

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ~~*They*~~ don't want you to be goated with the sauce

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    High test men quickly learn to hate, and thus kill, garden gnomes.
    Globohomo is the ultimate form of the demonic worship of the talmudic rulings AKA judaism AKA Statism.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    @Ketobro what's a good way to add fats to my protein shake? I've thought about just dropping a dollop of coconut oil into them for the MCTs, which supposedly help with getting fat adapted more quickly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Animal fats are best. Use butter. Plant oils have phytosterols.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How about heavy cream? Makes shakes taste delicious

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah heavy cream is great for drinks. I use it in coffee all the time. I tried butter in coffee but it just floats on top.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Based and Aryanpilled. Time to go dab on vegan Swarthoids, breh

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine eating plants. LMAO.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So sad.
    You can see how unhappy she is through that fake smile.
    Brainwashed into dying slowly for a redundant & uneconomical lifestyle

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because your ancestors were doing low carb for thousands of years (before the agricultural revolution).
    ~~*They*~~ want to keep you dumb, slow, docile and consoom by gorging on refined carbs.
    Take the keto+OMAD redpill.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    checking in. I ate 2 lbs of beef yesterday, and washed it down with tiki drinks and eggs. I woke up multiple times with a raging erection, and could literally feel the amino acids coursing through my body. Woke up without a hang over, and ready to work out more. Fucking love meat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Test

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because certain people want you frail, weak and sick.
    Remember: you will own nothing, and you will be happy.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most globohomo middle management types are themselves brainwashed. Think high ranking political leaders and think the mindset of old hippie biologist nature documentaries: humans are cancer and all we do is kill and destroy. Now couple that with the thinking that strip mining mountains in afghanistan for electric car batteries is good. Two polar opposite ideas that to them are good. In other words they are brainwashed perfectly and into exactly where they need to be.
    Secondly the ones at the top of globohomo hate every single one of you. They are also a bunch of autistic OCD gays and the chaotic nature of humans makes them uncomfortable. So easily mass farmed shit that they shovel down your throat to keep you alive and kind of moving just long enough to spend your meager unhealthy life working on their shitty ideas and projects. If it is something that keeps the mind sharp and the blood hot it is something that must be done away with to them. They will handle you. They will guide you. They will control you and so on and so forth. We very easily could use meat to feed everyone, especially with a nose to tail eating ethos. Therr is no reason for the price increases we are seeing on it other than to compel you to eat their vile slop.

    Tldr; just one check on the list to make you a compliant ant in their dumb, shitty, mismanaged hive.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If everyone expects cheap meat for every meal every day then the only way is factory farms and a lot of them will have terrible lives for the animals. Eating like that means making a lot of animals live in pain and stress their entire lives.
    Vegans over-correct but there would barely be any vegans in the world if people only ate meat from good farms or hunting. Buying the bad meat isn't any less bad than torturing animals for fun, which almost everyone seems to oppose.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone explain politely and not retardedly what's wrong with long-term cruelty principle veganism? My gf is vegan but I've managed to get her to vegetarian most of the time, but she still want to to stay off meat. I know organism is dietarily deficient but with modern vegan alternatives which we good together have such high protein content what exactly is missing? I can't seem to find a proper qrd

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here are the main concerns with a vegan/vegetarian diet.
      1. Some amino acids are less common in vegetables and legumes than in meat. This isn't an issue unless your diet is incredibly monotonous, but if you're concerned you can use a tracker like Chronometer to see amino acid breakdown.
      2. Iron deficiency is common in every diet, but especially vegetarians because of the lack of red meat. Most breakfasts cereals are iron fortified so a bowl of cereal in the morning and you'll be right, or you can get iron supplements or eat spinach.
      3. B vitamins are another concern, however milk and most onions milks (maybe oat/rice/almond too?) are fortified with B vitamins. Usually cereals are too, so your breakfast cereal can do double duty. You can also buy B12 supplements.
      4. Fats. A "normal" American diet is very high in fats so it's not something people consider, but if you go full vegan you run the risk of limiting your fats which isn't great for hormonal balance.

      That's it really. Leucine, iron, B12, and fats if you've gone full rabbit.

      >t. The only one in the thread who posted body

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this fucking bitch pisses me off so fucking mcuh and her fucking basedboy husband shilling their retarded garden gnome globohomo glowy ass shit damn bitch your arthritis isn't even cured bitch can't even stand up straight yes i'm seething fuck these stupid ngigersgarden gnomes

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