memes aside, oils have the highest calorie density of any food. they're literally concentrated fat.

memes aside, oils have the highest calorie density of any food. they're literally concentrated fat. you won't normally find this in nature, where fat is usually balanced by protein and other things. because of this, oils have shit satiety, and you won't even notice them in your meal. they easily turn a light salad into 500+ calorie dirty bulking food. it doesn't matter if it's olive, or sunflower, or canola oil. the macros stay the same, the satiety stays the same, and it's always shit.
by now I'm convinced that "oil is healthy" is just one big marketing ploy like "doctors smoke Camels". even beside the whole saturated fat, cholesterol, PUFA, omega-6 debates and all, oils are just shit to begin with. You're WAY better off getting your fat from meat, dairy, eggs, etc., and you're very unlikely to get fat deficiency in the current day and age anyway.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Outside italy dont consume oils, simple as

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all mediterranean countries produce tons of quality olive oil
      seethe harder pastafag

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >seethe harder pastafag
        >said the northern african moron while seething
        spain, italy, greece and france are the only relevant mediterrean countries. have a nice day.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ??????????

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They sell italian brands in my country, as in the actual brands you would buy in italy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Outside italy dont consume oils, simple as
      Don't know what the fuck health trend flavor of the month these bros on. Italy has the best food and diet in the world. Period. Their olive oil is a staple. Period. For centuries, if not millennia.
      I'm fit as fuck with an Italian wife. Olive oil is your friend.

      "For instance, one study found that replacing butter with olive oil increased men’s testosterone by 17.4 percent.”
      https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/health-news/olive-oil-consumption-increases-testosterone-in-men-with-insufficient-levels/92369

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no pre-butter numbers
        >no crossover design or washout periods
        this passes for science in Morocco

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fine, ignore 3000 years of use. Eat a Beyond burger or some shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >millennia
        Have you heard of a country called Greece?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus why do you autists worry about this shit
    Just eat healthy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BECAUSE if I can eat my McDouble in peace I should, it is tasty and less calories than olive oil, which is actually exposed here as the real g-sl0p.378 CALORIES ON TOP OF WHATEVER YOU COOK OR EAT I will stick to the based McDouble.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        of course shimshon eat the McGoyble.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah no one except maybe retarded americans go and just eat 400 kcalories worth of olive oil instead of a regular meal. That comparaison is retarded.
        Go ahead and keep eating food that makes you miserable if that makes you "happy", retard.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't tell if mentally handicapped or larp, either way you're a gay.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s been proven that olive oil raises testosterone in men. The fats in olive oil are unsaturated which turn into good cholesterol in the blood, the precursor for test biosynthesis.
    >all oil is the same
    >Muh macros
    You dumb fucking moron don’t know fuck about shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >good cholesterol

      Cholesterol is cholesterol. Because, you know... IT´S A FUCKING MOLECULE. YOU are the retard here.

      Oil has 900 calories per 100g. If you are going to the gym 4+ days of the week, it doesn’t matter what type of fat you put into your body. It matters how much.

      For OP: Omega-6/Omega-3 are extremely important for living, but you are probably getting enough from whatever food you are eating. If you are very serious about your health (or mildly serious), then you should get some cod liver oil capsules or just the straight oil.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Omega-666 is ((extremely)) important for living

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't know about HDL/LDL
        >doesn't understand dyslipidemia
        Hope you follow your own advice and die an early death to get your shit genes/intelligence out of the gene pool

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s been proven that olive oil raises testosterone in men.
      lmao post the proof you fucking retard

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not him, but moderate olive oil intake has a synergistic relationship with the human stomachs biome. Removing antagonistic biofilms and promoting our more appropriate gut flora.
        While most other oils in particularly generic cooking oils actually promotes biofilm.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And this affects people's production of testosterone? And it does so to a point where if we take two groups of people and have one group eat olive oil for fat while the other eat some other fat the olive oil group will have higher test levels? I'll tell you that is something fucking bullshit right there mate

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and this affects people's production of testosterone
            Yes actually, i'm not arguing for his reasons why. A lot of that is pseudo science or coincidence.
            I'm stating that in a non-moderated diet. Olive oil is easily one of the better choices to begin to add into your diet regularly because of that synergistic relationship.

            It's not a meme either, look it up or don't I really don't care. I'm giving you the information simply as thus.
            1. Due to extreme dietary meme changes in our daily intake of food our stomachs are rampart with
            A. anti-histamine dissolving compounds (diamine oxidase)
            B. rampart biofilm from antagonistic bacteria/fungi
            C. chronic inflammation from all sources
            D. low synergistic bacterial/fungal flora
            2. Olive oil has been shown to promote DOA (the enzyme that breaks down histamine), remove antagonistic biofilm, promote biodiverse bacterial spectrum, reduce inflammation.
            All of this has been shown to promote a healthier gut atmosphere. The gut/body connection is the most important connection in the human body and yes it more than likely would raise testosterone either via
            1. direct nutritional efficiency increase.
            2. lowered inflammation
            3. more efficient brain chemistry (pituitary gland)

            Law of diminishing returns newfag.
            If you're already eating healthy-ish, adding something will not magically increase gains.
            If you're eating unhealthy or meme diets, adding something will directly correlate with gains.
            I mean there is a reason the law of diminishing returns is a LAW anon. It's pretty simple stuff.

            You drink poison all day, your health is bad.
            You replace some poison with somewhat healthier substance, your health is less bad.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Mate are you some kind of PUFA schizo?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I just gave you information and you refuse to look it up yourself.
                Pretty sure that makes you the schizo m8.
                Law of diminishing returns.

                A non-moderated diet will result in non-moderated results.
                A moderated diet will result in moderated results.
                I really don't understand how you kids can call yourselves IST and you don't even understand the very basis of human biology.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am pretty sure you wen't far off the fucking deep end and this shit right here is some voodoo magical diet shit on the level of activated almonds. But yo, i respect that you wrote this. Its just that a non-moderated diet is more in line in with the brocode and having a free flow of doing things and not overthinking shit. Because when you start overthinking and stressing out that affects your digestion even worse. You can even get nutritional deficiencies from being stressed out because the gut stops taking up certain nutrients. I think that is a lot worse for testosterone synthesis

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not that you should seek out your fats from olive oils, it's that if a recipe or something calls for oil, olive is the healthiest option.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Explain why this applies to seed oils but not to butter or lard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did I say this? it applies to butter and lard too, fuck keto. the only reasons I don't mention them are
      1) butter already gets a lot of shit
      2) people consume way less butter than oil. US butter consumption in 2020 was 6.3lb per capita, and for vegetable oil it was about 66lb per capita. only people actually overeating butter are ketards and a minority of US fatties

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mostly agree with you, OP, but...

        66lb of oil per capita is way off. They are probably including oils that are used for frying, where most gets thrown away.

        Ketogenesis is very real, and is a stupidly effective way to lose weight. This is due to how translation of genes is regulated.

        Omega-6 vs omega-3 RATIOS are stupid, but you need Omega-3 to literally survive.

        To agree with you:

        It doesn’t matter what kind of oil you are putting into your mouth hole. just get SOME omega-3 and you are good to go.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you need Omega-3
          Hehe.
          I'm pretty sure there are many, many examples of populations that didn't eat any fish and were completely fine.
          The requirements are so small they don't even matter.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      butter has around 700 calories per 100g
      Lard has 900 calories per 100g
      seed oils have 900 calories per 100g

      OP is saying that it doesn’t matter what type of fat you consume. (spoiler: It doesn’t)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >OP is saying that it doesn’t matter what type of fat you consume. (spoiler: It doesn’t)
        polyunsaturated fats are more volatile and cause inflammation all over your body, macrotards should be shot

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This anon is right

        >OP is saying that it doesn’t matter what type of fat you consume. (spoiler: It doesn’t)
        polyunsaturated fats are more volatile and cause inflammation all over your body, macrotards should be shot

        PUFAs cause inflammation in the body via the COX2 pathway. Fun fact; gamma-linolenic acid an omega-6, decreases inflammation via the COX1 pathway. The body is a very complex organism, I would always do your own due diligence and never trust anything IST says

        >t. med school dropout

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they're literally concentrated fat. you won't normally find this in nature
      most retarded argument ever, literally touch grass

      bc people are dumb, the worst fats you could possibly eat in excess are saturated and trans fats. saturated fats tend to be soild at room temperature which includes some animal fat, coconut oil ect. trans fats are semi solid at room temperature, theres natural and artificial. artificial trans fats are hydrogenated oils and they tend to be solid are room temperature also depending on the ratio, hydrogenated oils are always made from plant based oils.
      it's not about the coming from a seed it's about what type of fat you're eating. everyone always falls for the meme. sauteing vegtables with lard could be good for u just depends on the ratio of the types of fat. sauteing vegtables with hydrogenated vegtable oils (ie some margarine) might be worse than using a certain vegtable oil. once again it all depends on the type of fat you're consuming.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is why you have a non-stick pan for when you are cutting. You dont need oil at all.

    But if you want a cheat meal once every month its fine because you will be shitting out most of the oil anyways. (I am speaking from experience)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      enjoy free teflon in your meals

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not free you retard, I bought the pan

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Implying that teflon is dangerous when you don’t produce it as a job, or burn multiple pans a day.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there are other nonstick pans that use ceramic or just simple seasoned cast iron

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Z1JixmU.jpg

      I'm done arguing with you retards, eat all the mcdonald's you want, down their burgers and their milkshakes while I dip my bread in olive oil. Bask in the shadow of your own gigabrain, ye that found the secret to a healthy diet is the quarterpounder.

      butter has around 700 calories per 100g
      Lard has 900 calories per 100g
      seed oils have 900 calories per 100g

      OP is saying that it doesn’t matter what type of fat you consume. (spoiler: It doesn’t)

      Read some of

      [...]

      Coconut oil masterrace checking in.
      That is all.

      Honestly you dipshits go on and on about olive oil so much that if you don’t respond to this post your mother will die in her sleep tonight

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kys

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How big are your table spoons? You would need about 50ml to reach that amount of kcalories which is an ungodly amount to consume in a day.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you dim?
      >United States tablespoon is approximately 14.8 ml
      1ml of oil = ~9 cals, therefore 1 tbsp is around 130 cals. 3 tbsp are easily around 400 cals

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cool, well don't consume around 45ml (an absurd amount) of olive oil daily I guess.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          average American consumes 30kg of vegetable oil every year. that's ~80ml, or 5+ tbsp of oil, and ~740 added calories.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Read some of

            I mostly agree with you, OP, but...

            66lb of oil per capita is way off. They are probably including oils that are used for frying, where most gets thrown away.

            Ketogenesis is very real, and is a stupidly effective way to lose weight. This is due to how translation of genes is regulated.

            Omega-6 vs omega-3 RATIOS are stupid, but you need Omega-3 to literally survive.

            To agree with you:

            It doesn’t matter what kind of oil you are putting into your mouth hole. just get SOME omega-3 and you are good to go.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No sane person would consume 80ml of olive oil per day if it wasn't for processed food. Thanks for demonstrating my point.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3 tbsp is 45ml
      1 tbsp = 15ml, or ~15g
      15g/tbsp x 9 Kcal/g * 3tbsp
      = 405 Kcal

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >45ml
        Would you use 50 grams of butter (1/5 of a regular stick) when you cook as well?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Take this gif down NOW. This frog is mentally challenged and should be given his meds.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm done arguing with you retards, eat all the mcdonald's you want, down their burgers and their milkshakes while I dip my bread in olive oil. Bask in the shadow of your own gigabrain, ye that found the secret to a healthy diet is the quarterpounder.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >'re literally concentrated fat. you won't normally find this in nature
    literal slabs of fat

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"Concentrated fat"
      There is no such thing as concentrated fat--- it's just fat. You sound incredibly stupid and are revealing that you know nothing

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    olive oil isnt a seed oil, didnt read your cope

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    olive oil is fruit oil, not seed oil, retard, only olive pomace oil is a seed oil

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      olive oil isnt a seed oil, didnt read your cope

      ok my bad, I meant plant oils, but as others have pointed out, it applies to any oils. happy now?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        still don't get what's your point lmao? nobody is drinking olive oil, it's a condiment

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't forget the omega 6

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Olive oil is garbage, just direct the fat directly into your thighs. Eat 1800calories of McDonald's daily and you'll be fine. This is why IST laughs at IST

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Z1JixmU.jpg

      I'm done arguing with you retards, eat all the mcdonald's you want, down their burgers and their milkshakes while I dip my bread in olive oil. Bask in the shadow of your own gigabrain, ye that found the secret to a healthy diet is the quarterpounder.

      you missed the point.
      my point wasn't that "mcdouble is le good".
      my point was that if McDouble is considered goyslop (which is true, although it's definitely not the worst kind), then what does it make plant oils? the final stage of goyslop?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you drink it straight, sure. But you're not that stupid, are you?

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Coconut oil masterrace checking in.
    That is all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I see you anon, I can't believe you're the only one to mention it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You guys use coconut oil to cook?!
      I just use it as moisturizer. Baby soft skin

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >get a good pan
    >don't need to use oils every again
    >at worst you need to use less than a tea spoon
    shrimple as that

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one has been consumed for thousands of years while the other is a mish mash of post industrial shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mcdonalds has been around for thousands of years
      citation needed newfag.
      most vegetable oils have industrially been produced for only a few decades. only very few, very very very few have been around for hundreds of years and thousands? it's less than a handful of various oils and most people on a day to day basis did not consume much of these.
      there is a reason why revelations states do not touch the wine or oil.
      They knew even back in the day that excessive oil consumption was bad for you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >one has been consumed for thousands of years
      the main issue with this is that food was much more scarce back in the day, and people were far more physically active. in modern day people hardly have to walk, and nothing is stopping you from consuming a shitload of calories daily.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP with the big brained observation that fat is high in calories.
    NOBODY IS EATING 3 TBSPS OF OIL FOR DINNER. OR BUTTER OR TALLOW FOR THAT MATTER.
    YOU KNOW WHAT FAT IS USED FOR??? COOKING! YOU INVALID!!!
    YOU'RE ON IST. HAVE YOU NEVER GRILLED A CHICKEN BREAST BEFORE?!?! IF FAT-FREE FOOD NEVER BURNED SO EASILY I WOULD'VE ABANDONED FAT ALTOGETHER AGES AGO.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It literally doesn't burn without oil, I cook my chicken breasts with 0 amounts of oil.
      Just change the cooking method.
      Literally wrap it in aluminum foil and bake it in salt and Hispanices.
      Its that fucking easy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >just eat aluminum particles bro
        >just consooom metals bro
        >it’s easy bro

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok you can skip that step i use it for cleaning easier
          put it in a glass pan in the oven and bake it
          just salt and Hispanices
          how the fuck would i burn
          it might stick but it wont burn
          the point is you dont need oil to cook a t all

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nobody? I bake a loaf of sourdough and eat it every week, dip about 2tbsp of olive oil/day. it’s incredible

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My mom became queen of sourdough during the vid. Nothing compares to homemade sourdough. Once I get back on top of my day-to-day schedule I'm gonna get a sourdough starter from her and learn myself.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unironically why i was fat.
    My mom uses almost 1 liter olive oil to cook in a week.
    Sure its for a family of 4 but that's still a couple hundred extra calories a day
    No you don't need to add oil to fucking stews, salads or soup or whatever the fuck mom.
    Glad I live alone and cook my own food now.
    I try to explain it to her but she won't listen, or says she doesn't add a lot of oil and still does.
    I tracked this by looking at the oil bottle every couple days to see how much was missing.

    So yes while olive oil is "healthy" fat consuming a lot of calories is still unhealthy even if you eat healthy foods.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      olive oil is healthy
      in moderation.
      meat is healthy
      in moderation.

      fuck even arsenic is needed for various human processes on a micro dosage per day.
      everything in moderation. most health problems are caused by lack of moderation.

      Hell i'll even provide a citation for green tea, a widely known "health drink" that is drunk outside moderation. It lowers the ability to release an anti-histamine enzyme which therefore when drunk regularly causes more inflammation than it would prevent.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    obesity wasn't a problem until oils were introduced as a mainstream in the late 70s.
    sugar consumption hasn't even changed since 1900s. We just replaced fruit sugars with refined sugars.

    oils are almost 95% correlation with obesity.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CaLORiEs ArE EVrYtHInG

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In what world am I drenching anything in that much olive oil? Through a year I may eat a whole gallon of olive oil using about 2 tbsp per cook and consuming about half of that per dinner

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine being terrified and confused by spoon of olive oil.
    Or a fucking cheeseburger.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >memed into fearing fats
    >implying processed/milled carbs aren't worse
    >implying the extra sugared buns on his McFatasfatass aren't worse
    >implying you consume all of the oil you put in the pan
    >not understanding cooking
    >not understanding nutrition

    ngmi

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Really, do big macs exist in nature?

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who the fuck just consumes tablespoons of olive oil? It's used in small amounts for cooking you autistic fucking retard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Who the fuck just consumes tablespoons of olive oil?
      The issue is that most processed food is 30-50% calories from seed oils, and people aren't even aware of it, but freak out at a tiny hint of sugar.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone that's fit doesn't eat processed food and only uses olive oil in small amounts for cooking

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you won't normally find this in nature
    Stopped reading right there.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God, I feel more stupid the further into your post I get. You seem to have zero understanding of how saturated fats wreck your cardiovascular system by throwing your cholesterol production out of balance, and you just categorically dismiss the omega ratios or any of the myriad benefits of certain types of vegetable oils. Most importantly, the antiinflammatory properties of EVOO are incredible for your health, and it's not a "seed" oil. Plus no one is saying you should get your calories primarily from EVOO

    OPs entire post is too retarded to be real, you sound like a braindead american or a 0/10 troll

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I put 1 tbsp of olive oil in my salad and you can lick my nuts.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine not understanding the difference between saturated/unsat fat on lipid profile, or even the difference between PUFA and MUFA on something as simple as global inflammation in the body. You're gonna die early thinking you know better than all of us

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      following up on , you sound like a very young overconfident person who has read a very small amount about nutrition but think youve read enough to know everything--- you really don't. OP is classic dunning kruger

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PUFA oils are toxic

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