Military

I’m looking into joining the military, to be exact at the navy. I know the fitness requirements vary by age but I’m going to shoot for the requirements of men younger than me and I wanted to know what are the best ways for me to train push-ups sit ups? I can only do 30 push-ups in a minute right now and I have no clue about it’s ups but it’s probably bad.
For running I’m starting with C25K and once I can the full 1.5 mile requirement with no walking I’ll start working on getting it to sub 12 minutes.

Best ways for me to train? Pretty much giving up weights for this right now. Only doing 2 days of lifting now.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    HOLY DIVER
    YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TOO LONG IN THE MIDNIGHT SEA

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd think alternating between jogging/running several miles on one day, then focus mostly on pushups and situps the next would work, it'd just take time to build endurance and speed. What's your routine now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I just started today so no real routine but switching from SS (don’t bully me) to
      push-ups X F until I’ve hit a total # of reps for the day
      >push-ups & sit ups
      Sit ups I’ll probably just do 3x F to start since I’ve literally never done anything to directly train core
      >lifting
      Two days per week for lifting I was gonna
      Lat pulldown 4x10
      Neck
      Delt work
      Shrugs 3x15
      Curls 3x10
      >cardio
      Every day that I don’t lift will be some form of cardio. I have a row machine and plan to alternate or mix up the running and rowing somehow. Need to do 2km in 8 minutes which I can do now if I don’t focus on strict form. So if C25k is 2-4 days per week I should have a few days of rowing as well. May have to just do 20 minutes rowing post lift days. For swimming I was on a team in childhood and will just take 1 day to replicate the drills I used to do.

      I’m fat as fuck right now. Been cutting but doing zero cardio aside from occasional rowing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >For free
        Go to the Air Force website and look into their special warfare page for any of their PJs, CCT, or TACP, at the bottom they have a pretty decent free to download 3 week workout program.
        Darbee also has free program workouts you can download that give you a good way to get in shape. I would suggest doing their Runner's Prime over C25K just because all C25K people tell you to work out in between days and that's what RP does for you, giving you core, chest, and leg days based entirely on bodyweight.
        >Paid
        HTK, Hard to Kill fitness and Mountain tactical have very good programs tailored to multiple military, fire, ems, and police jobs. I use HTK's bodyweight which has you doing 55 push ups week one and slowly progresses you to the 100s while giving you space for any cardio program in between days.
        You can pay for both or look around and find them on the internet usually. HTK has Tactical Bodyweight and Tactical Monster, which is for weights.
        >Alternative
        /k has a /MEG thread up all the time. It's Military enlistment general and has a good push up/running program and a lot of advice.
        /plg/ has a very good pastebin with a lot of info on nutrition and weightlifting.
        >My advice if you're only doing two days of lifting
        Do Juarez valley push ups 1-10 both push up days and go up a number every week. So 1, 2, 3, 4....up to 10 then up to 11, 12, 13...etc each week.
        Run very lite for 30 minutes then gradually add speed and distance. Rally starting from scratch you will face shin splints every run if you don't start at a 15min mile pace. The number one thing people overestimate is their legs ability to go 0-100 on a run. You usually don't realize a 10 minute mile jog pace is already 150% on the legs of someone just starting out. C25K is good, but the lack of workouts on the in-between days can fuck you over. Most people don't realize how badly you need core to run distance, which is why I always suggest Runner's Prime over it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I’m going to look into everything you posted right now but I wanted say
          >Run very lite for 30 minutes
          I can maybe get 0.5 miles/7 minutes before I begin to puke right now.

          Honestly I might have to take a goggins tier approach and crash diet for a brief period to get to a lighter weight to be able to run without feeling fried/sick for the next few days or puking before I’ve been hit 10 minutes. 6’1” 270lbs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't goggins anything. Ever.
            Don't worry if you can't run. Run/jog for 30 minutes. Even if you get down to a shitty little trot, keep your heart rate up but only breathe through your nose. This will naturally throttle you and give you an idea of when you're going too hard. If you open your mouth to breathe, start trotting/walking. Don't worry, you will get it eventually.
            Air Force should also have a free nutrition guide somewhere on their site. If not under the special Warfare page then check under the basic training page because they have another free program their.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Maybe get 0.5 miles in 7 minutes before puking
            Didn't you just say you could do 2k in 8 minutes?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No I didn’t not say I could run 2k in 8 minutes. I said I can ROW that if I let my form fall to shit. Which doesn’t really count if form is shit.

              Don't goggins anything. Ever.
              Don't worry if you can't run. Run/jog for 30 minutes. Even if you get down to a shitty little trot, keep your heart rate up but only breathe through your nose. This will naturally throttle you and give you an idea of when you're going too hard. If you open your mouth to breathe, start trotting/walking. Don't worry, you will get it eventually.
              Air Force should also have a free nutrition guide somewhere on their site. If not under the special Warfare page then check under the basic training page because they have another free program their.

              My diets already on point but fuck man I need to get to 200lbs asap. For or this career and my health and sanity. I’ll leave it at my 2,000 calories and reassess a few weeks into this new training

              Don't goggins anything. Ever.
              Don't worry if you can't run. Run/jog for 30 minutes. Even if you get down to a shitty little trot, keep your heart rate up but only breathe through your nose. This will naturally throttle you and give you an idea of when you're going too hard. If you open your mouth to breathe, start trotting/walking. Don't worry, you will get it eventually.
              Air Force should also have a free nutrition guide somewhere on their site. If not under the special Warfare page then check under the basic training page because they have another free program their.

              >push ups
              >sit ups
              Specificity is king. If you want a lot of push ups per minute do timed push ups, simple as.
              Max effort once or twice a week. Do it exactly like you would on the test.
              Light/volume for the rest of the week.
              >running
              Run more. Mostly easy runs.

              Would you guys say it would be wise for me to just focus on losing the weight for now? I have a reasoning. I’m fat and when I was 18 I managed to lose over 100lbs by walking and later sprinting and running but since I started sprints and running at this same weight I tore my menus in each knee. Had surgery both times, one tore again. Managed to fully recover but it took years. I’m hesitant because I would be ass fucked if I had another tear during or before basic. Running right now makes me feel sick for days even just trying to do an “easy/light” run. There was a time I could 3-5 miles but I never had that until I was skelly at 19. Just to the tears to become so bad the joint could barely move. Took a lot of incline walking and PT exercises to get blood flow and have them feel 100% again zero pain now.
              I’m 27 now and if this post wasn’t telling I fell off my wagon. I want to be able to run like that again, but I know deep down it’s not gonna get any easier without risk until I’m closer to a healthy weight. Shit I could probably even start at 225lbs without the risk or feeling so ill from such a pathetic little run of 0.5 miles max

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you follow a program, you will lose weight. And you better take it super easy on the runs since you're overweight and have knee injuries. Should also look into knees over toes guy too. I had double knee surgery and have been running from 240-225lbs at 6'3".
                Start today, it will help you lose weight faster. Don't worry about time, you rush it you're screwed. Air force and army is up to 39, Coast guard is 32 I believe. I don't know about Navy but right now the only thing you might miss is Marines which is 28 I believe.
                Dont quote me on any of that though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Best advice here
          I'd also recommend looking up the navy PT test or whatever they fucking call theirs. Try to test yourself against it every now and then before you ship. You'll be ahead of most trainees if you have a medium score at the least. I don't know shit about the Navy, I was in the Army so take what you will

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why join the navy it is really not a good time everybody is fat lazy and minority
    I just spent seven months on a ship with them they are literal dregs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >why navy
      I am afraid of women and don’t want the distraction. Also the navy jobs are more appealing than what I’ve seen in other branches.

      Also considering coast guard but would prefer to start in navy for the benefits it provides.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There are a lot of women in the navy my friend they’re going to serve your food and work in the shop store and they are ratchet hoes if you want the technical side join the Air Force youre quality of life is way better and you’ll definitely get a lot more job opportunities on the outside then navy you’re going to be fixing a 40 year old ship that breaks down in the middle of the ocean every two days my brother please I know you don’t want to hear this but I want to steer you away from 5+years of misery

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That’s fine, those are the only women I’ve managed to date sadly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Go Air Force and aim for special warfare. You get in from the get go if you pass their IFT then go through basic and go off to special warfare training.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are a lot of women in the navy my friend they’re going to serve your food and work in the shop store and they are ratchet hoes if you want the technical side join the Air Force youre quality of life is way better and you’ll definitely get a lot more job opportunities on the outside then navy you’re going to be fixing a 40 year old ship that breaks down in the middle of the ocean every two days my brother please I know you don’t want to hear this but I want to steer you away from 5+years of misery

          I’ll look more into it. BIL and a friend were airforce. Planning to talk to BIL when he gets back from a vacation. My friend who moved away did firefighting but says he hated it because in his 4 years only had one fire.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your ship needs a janitor.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >push ups
    >sit ups
    Specificity is king. If you want a lot of push ups per minute do timed push ups, simple as.
    Max effort once or twice a week. Do it exactly like you would on the test.
    Light/volume for the rest of the week.
    >running
    Run more. Mostly easy runs.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Goto paratroopers
    Paratroopers are cool

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly if you're joining for technical skills and to further a career/get ahead in life, join the Air Force.
    If you're joining to just put "military" on a resume and have some stories or whatever join the Marines. If you really don't like women don't worry (unless you're the POGest of POGs), my entire enlistment the only chicks I worked with only opened their mouth to put a lip in or eat box.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't pay for any programs, that's the stupidest thing. Go to the navyseals subreddit and look at all the programs they have for each branch. Pick one and follow it.
    >inb4 NOOOOOO you have to go back!1
    If you're going into the navy only do spec war programs, if you want technical skills join the Air Force so you can have a 1:1 transferable job. The navy has good jobs as well but being stuck on a ship sucks major ass while chair force fags go on flights all over europe to do their job. If you want to be on a boat without having to do gay long deployments, for the most part, then join the coast guard. You don't need to be some PT stud to pass any basic unless you're going for special warfare programs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't pay for any programs, that's the stupidest thing.
      I wrote

      >For free
      Go to the Air Force website and look into their special warfare page for any of their PJs, CCT, or TACP, at the bottom they have a pretty decent free to download 3 week workout program.
      Darbee also has free program workouts you can download that give you a good way to get in shape. I would suggest doing their Runner's Prime over C25K just because all C25K people tell you to work out in between days and that's what RP does for you, giving you core, chest, and leg days based entirely on bodyweight.
      >Paid
      HTK, Hard to Kill fitness and Mountain tactical have very good programs tailored to multiple military, fire, ems, and police jobs. I use HTK's bodyweight which has you doing 55 push ups week one and slowly progresses you to the 100s while giving you space for any cardio program in between days.
      You can pay for both or look around and find them on the internet usually. HTK has Tactical Bodyweight and Tactical Monster, which is for weights.
      >Alternative
      /k has a /MEG thread up all the time. It's Military enlistment general and has a good push up/running program and a lot of advice.
      /plg/ has a very good pastebin with a lot of info on nutrition and weightlifting.
      >My advice if you're only doing two days of lifting
      Do Juarez valley push ups 1-10 both push up days and go up a number every week. So 1, 2, 3, 4....up to 10 then up to 11, 12, 13...etc each week.
      Run very lite for 30 minutes then gradually add speed and distance. Rally starting from scratch you will face shin splints every run if you don't start at a 15min mile pace. The number one thing people overestimate is their legs ability to go 0-100 on a run. You usually don't realize a 10 minute mile jog pace is already 150% on the legs of someone just starting out. C25K is good, but the lack of workouts on the in-between days can fuck you over. Most people don't realize how badly you need core to run distance, which is why I always suggest Runner's Prime over it.

      and wanted to tell him to just pirate the HTK and MTN tact stuff like I did but thought he was older from the sound of it. Now I know his age he should just go about finding it online free.
      Navy seal sub is pretty good to, as they have good workouts and you can sometimes bum some programs for free if you beg.
      Either way, we all agree he needs to get on a program.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I wasn't trying to make a dig at you, it was more along the lines of him finding a free one as it sounds like OP doesn't even know what they want from the military. Guys who would rather die than not be accepted into special warfare would benefit the most from a paid program, but someone just trying to lose weight should find a free one.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't pay for any programs, that's the stupidest thing.
          I wrote [...] and wanted to tell him to just pirate the HTK and MTN tact stuff like I did but thought he was older from the sound of it. Now I know his age he should just go about finding it online free.
          Navy seal sub is pretty good to, as they have good workouts and you can sometimes bum some programs for free if you beg.
          Either way, we all agree he needs to get on a program.

          I’ll look into them and I’m not an old fag but I’m late 20s. As far as what I want from the military it’s the classic lost in life just left a field I no longer want to be anywhere near. Feel stuck. Everyone keeps recommending military. The more I look into it the more it seems like a good idea. Maybe it’s a bad idea for me maybe it will be a game changer. Idk. All I know is I’m a weak individual. If joining means they break me down to rebuild me and I come out actually competent and disinclined with a career or actual options to finding a career outside the military then that’s great. I don’t feel like I got much to lose. Shit I have nothing to lose. Either way my primary goal doesn’t change much, I need to get my health back first.

          I’m in the process of getting sober, quit alcohol, quit weed, trying to quit nicotine and caffeine. I have a road ahead of me. I’m probably looking at 6 months minimum before I’m ready.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >break me down and build me up
            Hahaha good one. I separated not too long ago. Going to be real woth you if it is what you want to do go for it. Dont expect anything glorious. If anything get into the special warfare sector as it is the last standing bastion of accountability and bros. Everything else is rats being rats and race nepotism. The military wont break you down and build you up unless you go into spec war. Also you better make it through the program or enjoy scrapping paint on the side while the BMC flirts with all the females in the divisionand they use that flirtatious advanced from the chief to get out of all the shit jobs. Spec ops or bust or officer.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Judging from these comments, what I’m about to say will be an unpopular opinion but these are all fantastic reasons to join. People in your shoes end up wasting their time partying, chasing women, doing drugs, and focusing on all the wrong things. At least joining the military will give you some priorities.

            I got out a little over 2 years ago. Overall, there are a lot of things that sucked and made me want to get out. But I’m glad I forced myself to have that experience. You definitely grow up a lot, and the benefits help set me up to have a good career and a better life than had I not joined. Lost a couple a friends that I had after I joined because “I changed”. By that, they mean while I was away training, overcoming hardships, going to new places, meeting new people, and having responsibilities and standards to uphold they continued working their same dead end jobs and having no priorities or direction, only chasing a life of pleasure and comfort and they don’t like me anymore. It is what it is. But a lot of the reasons you listed are part of why I joined.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I cut off all the friends I had for that reason. Just a bunch of people who peaked in highschool and do the same shit sitting around getting high and trying to drag everyone down. Broke up with my gf. When I say I have nothing to lose I mean it. Aside from my family I really have nothing in life.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dont be a diver good god, that job sucks and will fuck your body up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that not every branch though? Sure some jobs like communications I guess are easier on the body but I can’t do shit like that. I can’t sit down and do a task on a screen. I can focus on my tasks if I’m physically doing stuff or working with hands.

      >break me down and build me up
      Hahaha good one. I separated not too long ago. Going to be real woth you if it is what you want to do go for it. Dont expect anything glorious. If anything get into the special warfare sector as it is the last standing bastion of accountability and bros. Everything else is rats being rats and race nepotism. The military wont break you down and build you up unless you go into spec war. Also you better make it through the program or enjoy scrapping paint on the side while the BMC flirts with all the females in the divisionand they use that flirtatious advanced from the chief to get out of all the shit jobs. Spec ops or bust or officer.

      From what I’ve gathered it’s a 75% fail rate. Looks intense. Looks rewarding. Honestly intimidating considering where I am right now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You have to want nothing more in life than to be part of the spec war community. If there's any little doubt then you'll fail. Most of the spec war dudes I met on deployment said the physical part was the easiest, it was having the mental strength to keep pushing once you hit your limit that truly broke men. That's not to say you don't need to be in great shape, but you need to have a do or die mentality. Also, at least for the navy, if you fail you'll most likely become un-des which is fucking hell

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think just running and calisthenics every day or every other day will be just fine. The standards really are not that hard as long as you aren’t a fatty and put a half ounce of effort into your fitness

    >t. Marine vet

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    for pullups try doing an emom, google it, I went from 10 to 15 in three weeks and counting

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bro
    Go navy EOD or SARC

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's all great but have you been swimming at all, the thing that gets most people at scuba school??? You understand being a diver involves lots of watercon right

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna be real with you man. Current marinefag. Spec ops in all branches has a metric fuckton of candidates now since everyone knows about it. You need to treat this like getting ready for the Olympics. I went to marsoc A&S and wasn't selected with these scores

    25 pullups
    21:10 3 mile run
    300m swim wearing uniform 7:30
    8 mile ruck 45# 1 hr 35 min
    10 mile ruck 45# 2 hours
    12 mile ruck 2 hrs 28 min
    Usmc cft 300

    I was ranked like 37th out of 115 guys who were still remaining, guys aren't just dropping like flies at courses like this anymore youre going to be going against dudes who can literally run the diver PST back to back. You need to do a BUDS workup and then some

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If your still here OP look into Aircrew if you really want to join the Navy, not as intensive as specwar but still a good community to be a part of. Also you only get put on ships with your squadron for deployments and get switched out midway through, so you still get to see other countries without dealing with all the bullshit that people have to deal with on a ship. The leadership in squadrons is 1000x better than it would be on a ship with any other rate.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Former US Navy MA here. If you’re training for basic don’t overthink it. I was skinnyfat going in and couldn’t do a pull up. There will be asses there, too. If you look super jacked the instructors will fuck with you (I.e. “OH SO YOU THINK YOURE READY FOR THIS RECRUIT?!) you will be in good shape by the end of training. Most people let themselves go at that point and drink too much, get fat and shit. You will partner up with someone for the push-ups/sit-ups per minute and will absolutely fudge their numbers for them and they will for you. Unless you get fucking Serpico and everyone hates that fucking guy.
    Focus more on running. GL, op.
    >picunrel

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oh also go to medical for everything I mean it. You'll be thankful when you get 100% disability non-taxable NEET life.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they have an old man check your asshole and feel your balls at meps. they also ask you to pull back foreskin.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Royal navy?

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t join the military, for most people it’s a waste of time.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    USMC OCS poolie here.
    I think your info is outdated. USMC moved to forearm planks last year, and the navy does planks too. This replaces sit ups (someone decided sit ups are bad for you). To improve plank time just plank every day and add 1 second every day. Planking is mostly mental. Aim for 20 secs MORE than the max score because you will cheat the stance at home

    Running benefits from variety. I went from not being able to run two blocks to running 23min 3 miles in about 2 years (USMC does 3 miles). What worked for me was running 4 days a week.
    One run should be timed 1.5 mile, one should be uphill, one should be longer--maybe 3-5 miles, and one should be sprinting/jogging intervals. Maybe do some fartleks too.
    If you cannot run the whole thing hold out as long as possible then when you walk chose a point in the distance to start running again. Next time, force yourself to start running earlier until the whole route is running.

    Push ups are about speed. When you go down, turn off your muscles and just let gravity take you. then quickly shoot back up. Dont go down too far.
    to practice try some weighted push ups and just do them often. Push ups are great because you can do them all the time.

    Most importantly get in contact with a recruiter. Even if you don't want to join now, MEPS will take some time, and by saying "I want to join in 6 months" then actually showing up in six months you will already be more reliable than most people. The recruiting station may have workout events where other people can push you.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You should be a submariner OP. All boats have excellent gyms and there is so much free time to work out. I promise you won't regret it

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know people are going to fucking whine but:
    crossfit is your best bet
    most of crossfit is high intensity circuit training, focused on endurance
    basic training, from what I remember, is pretty much a lot of marching, especially with weight, for long periods of time
    you won't get a lot of sleep either, so the best bet, work on your endurance

    If you're joining the military because you wanna join, then do whatever
    If you wanna go somewhere in life afterwards, join the Air Force

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm looking into joining the military
    Yeah, don't. If you're in the US and want the structure and paycheck, apply to USBP and make like 5 times as much starting.

    Fuck the military.

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