Milk and acne

>"Don't drink milk. It causes acne"
>"Drink milk, it'll help get rid of acne"
Which one fucking is it IST?

I personally find I get a few spots here and there after eating dairy. But why are there 2 conflicting points of view

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nutrition is not a science and it never will be. If something doesn't work for you, don't consume it.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I drinked a lot of mil through my teen years and had 0 acne. Who knows

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    causes a lot of ppl acne, but its not always the reason
    why not just try leaving it out
    leaving something out of nutrition is more likely to let acne disappear than adding somethin

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but its not always the reason
      Yeah, people tend not to have milk by itself, nor are they drinking good quality (raw, yes raw, go fuck yourself; it's not a meme) milk.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Falling for the raw milk meme

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What do you think pasteurization is

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Destructive and quality reducing.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've drank a ton of milk all my life. 2-3 gallons a week probably. I had bad acne as a teen, don't now. Mine was unrelated to dairy just my hormones.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get acne from milk but my friend does. I think he's lactose intolerant despite being very white

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >But why are there 2 conflicting points of view

    Because 99.9% of this board is completely scientifically illiterate, no matter how many papers they haven't read they can link.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pasteurized and UHT milk causes acne.
    Raw milk helps get rid of acne.
    There, mystery solved.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too much fat consumption is what worsens acne. Milk depends on how much fat it contains.
    t. my acne improved the moment I cut charcuterie/chocolate and reduced oil when cooking

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Too much fat consumption
      No, it's too much carbs and refined seed oils.
      >cut chocolate (carbs/sugar)
      >reduced oil (presumably canola oil)
      >improved acne
      See? It's right there in your own experience, too, you just attributed it incorrectly.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        chocolate good

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    First of all stop being white. Only white people get acne because you have terminally fucked hormones from drinking milk for thousands of generations. Milk is HIGHLY estrogenic.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >did your ancestors drink milk?
    if so, yes!
    >did your ancestors not drink milk?
    >if so, no!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a difficult thing in the modern world because so many people are such genetic mutts. Which ancestors do you look to? Which ancestor's genes are actually being expressed in you? It's hard to parse that kind of thing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        fortunately (due to an overpriced ancestry test) I know that I come from northern european ancestry. Given these populations were dependent on their dairy production, I can reasonably assume it may be in my best interest to drink it.
        It'll be interesting to see in the future if epigenetic tests become accurate enough to tell you what food protein specific genes you express.
        In the meantime, i'm not lactose intolerance, and milk satisfies my hunger nicely, so I will continue to /sip/

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          intolerant*

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is only a thing in amerimuttia, the land of the species mixed goylem.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped drinking milk and my skin cleared up a little. I still drink kefir, it seems fermentation in it kills cow growth hormones that cause acne
    Next step is to get rid of caffeine, oh god it's impossible but I keep trying everyday. Caffeine releases cortisol which in turn increases acne

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I started drinking milk at night and my acne came back with a vengeance. I saw that crazy scientologist youtube saying kelp and other iodine supplements helps the body filter out the oils that cause acne and other types of cysts. May have to cut the whole milk back till I can confirm or deny this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Try raw milk, it fixed me right up.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only A2 raw milk is good, very good, in fact. If you're gonna drink anything other than that, you're better off not doing it. Oh, and sugar, seed oils, processed carbs, and too much "non-processed" carbs is what causes acne.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Drink milk, it'll help get rid of acne
    I've never heard anybody say this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he's never been in a raw /milk/ thread

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only real answer in this thread. Generally speaking high fat foods cause acne, so as long as you can tolerate milk and you drink a low fat option then you should be fine, I think it's more important to keep your face clean and change bedsheets regularly and not touching it with your gross sweaty hands

    Haven't seen so much retardation in a while why are there so many raw milk shills, you idiots do know pasteurization is just heating up something to sterilize it, right? Raw milk is like eating raw eggs or raw meat, if you unironically think that's better then you should regress back to our primitive selves before cooking was a thing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you idiots do know pasteurization is just heating up something to sterilize it, right?
      Yes, and sterilization means killing off beneficial bacteria alongside potential pathogenic ones. Raw milk contains beneficial bacteria that aid your body in properly processing lactose and other substances in the milk, killing those off will leave your body to figure that shit out on its own and can result in negative side effects like acne or digestive discomfort/diarrhea that you wouldn't get with the whole raw milk.

      The process of heating also partially breaks down and damages the protein and fat in the milk along with certain vitamins, so you're reducing the nutritional value of the milk overall. And this is all just regarding standard pasteurization, we haven't even gotten into UHT pasteurization (much more heat damage to the contents) or the effects of high-pressure homogenization on the fat within the milk or how milk in the grocery store is separated and reconstituted in a much more watered down form (even "whole milk" in the store has notably less milkfat content than raw milk).

      It's funny you bring up raw eggs, too, because while cooking egg WHITES does make the protein in them more bioavailable, cooking egg YOLKS oxidizes the otherwise-healthy cholesterol in them and also damages the vitamins contained within. There are benefits to eating certain foods raw, cooking isn't some universally good thing in all cases, neither is sterilization.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >beneficial bacteria that aid your body in properly processing lactose and other substances in the milk
        Enzymes are not bacteria

        >killing those off will leave your body to figure that shit out on its own
        Yes, just like it does with any other food source. You ARE white, right? You CAN digest milk, right?

        >The process of heating also partially breaks down and damages the protein and fat in the milk along with certain vitamins, so you're reducing the nutritional value of the milk overall
        That's just wrong. Think about it for a moment I'm sure you'll figure out why that's just straight up wrong

        Got tired of replying sorry, but most of the things u said are mostly false raw shill lies but just eat what makes you feel stronger and comfortable or whatever I don't care. Milk will not change your overall nutrition it's such a small percentage of what you eat in total the impact is minimal

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Enzymes are not bacteria
          Bacteria produce the enzymes, both are destroyed by pasteurization. Lactose-eating bacteria are literally what turn milk into yogurt and they're naturally occurring in raw milk.

          >Yes, just like it does with any other food source.
          And that's a better thing for some foods than others.

          >You ARE white, right? You CAN digest milk, right?
          Yes, but I still do better on raw milk regardless.

          >That's just wrong. Think about it for a moment I'm sure you'll figure out why that's just straight up wrong
          If it's wrong, then why do they fortify milk with synthetic vitamins? The answer is that they're replacing what's lost in processing, just like sandwich bread is fortified with synthetic vitamins because they remove the wheat germ to improve shelf life and need to add back in the nutrients you lose from doing that.

          >Got tired of replying sorry
          Apology accepted, I hope you do some more research instead of just assuming existing processes are infallible.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If it's wrong, then why do they fortify milk with synthetic vitamins?
            All food sources that are for children need to be fortified with vitamin D and vitamin A, look it up. That's all they add to milk to fortify it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'll take the actual whole food over frankensteined goyslop, thanks.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's afraid of vitamins and supps too lmfaaaoooo. Raw milkers are the new breed of ketoschizos

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Plus, you do know milk (yes, even your magical raw milk) has no vitamin D or A, right? You have absolutely no idea about nutrition and it's just funny at this point. I'm done with this thread you're just too stupid. I'm above this

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >beneficial bacteria that aid your body in properly processing lactose and other substances in the milk
            Enzymes are not bacteria

            >killing those off will leave your body to figure that shit out on its own
            Yes, just like it does with any other food source. You ARE white, right? You CAN digest milk, right?

            >The process of heating also partially breaks down and damages the protein and fat in the milk along with certain vitamins, so you're reducing the nutritional value of the milk overall
            That's just wrong. Think about it for a moment I'm sure you'll figure out why that's just straight up wrong

            Got tired of replying sorry, but most of the things u said are mostly false raw shill lies but just eat what makes you feel stronger and comfortable or whatever I don't care. Milk will not change your overall nutrition it's such a small percentage of what you eat in total the impact is minimal

            Both of you have no clue

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >cooking egg YOLKS oxidizes the otherwise-healthy cholesterol in them
        People actually still believe this myth? Lol

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >myth
          No.
          https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/eating-healthy-eggs#High-heat-cooking-oxidizes-the-cholesterol-in-eggs

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You need to read what you link retard lmao

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You need to read what you link retard lmao
              I did. Did you?
              >However, when eggs are cooked at high temperatures, the cholesterol in them may become oxidized and produce compounds known as oxysterols
              >This is a concern for some people, as oxidized cholesterol and oxysterols in the blood have been linked to an increased risk of heart disease
              >Foods containing oxidized cholesterol and oxysterols are thought to contribute to the blood levels of these compounds
              raw yolks > cooked yolks

              He's afraid of vitamins and supps too lmfaaaoooo. Raw milkers are the new breed of ketoschizos

              >He's afraid of vitamins and supps too lmfaaaoooo.
              Not afraid of them, it's just that synthetic vitamins are inferior to ones that naturally occur in food.

              Plus, you do know milk (yes, even your magical raw milk) has no vitamin D or A, right? You have absolutely no idea about nutrition and it's just funny at this point. I'm done with this thread you're just too stupid. I'm above this

              >Plus, you do know milk (yes, even your magical raw milk) has no vitamin D or A, right?
              No, I do not know that. Here's one study of the vitamin D content of milk: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7278753/
              >The vitamin D3 content varied from not detected (less than 1 µg L−1) to 17.0 ± 2.0 µg L−1 milk and was not related to the milk fat content.
              Vitamin D is naturally present in milk, though like any natural food the specific content will vary, even though non-fortified milk is not noted officially on nutrition labels as containing it. As for vitamin A, a quick trip to Cronometer reveals that even raw milk is officially labeled as containing vitamin A, so you're wrong there, too.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vitamin A vitamin A vitamin a vitamin a.

    No joke eat liver and your acne will be cured, no need to thank me.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Raw milkers are actual cucks, imagine paying MORE for an objectively WORSE product and then go online shilling about it trying to convince others how great it is. It's just like cucks saying how great it is that their wife gets to fuck other dudes regularly, literally.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >objectively

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >an objectively WORSE product
      Yes, it's so much better to drink dead damaged milk loaded with synthetic vitamins than to just drink raw milk as a complete whole food.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Milk makes men grow tits. Don’t gain weight if you drink milk or it will go to your hips and tits.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody benefits from individuals choosing to drink raw, locally procured dairy besides local dairy farmers and the small chain stores that stock it. you're trying to make a strawman out of...... local commerce? What's going on man?

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's a government study that found that 2% milk causes acne

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it will affect your thyroid
    how depends on your other deficiencies (like zink) and if you're hypo-thyroidal or hyper-thyroidal.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try not drinking litres of soda.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are you white Evropean or Mongol?
    Drink milk, it'll help get rid of acne
    >Are you not white evropean or Mongol?
    Don't drink milk. It causes acne

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Im whiter than richard spencer (according to 23andme), and dairy gave me acne. Wasn't lactose intolerant I'd been drinking milk since I was a baby, and all of my ancestral lineage drank milk. Don't drink milk for a month if you have acne and at least determine if it's what's causing it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >According to 23andme!11
        You are not white, american.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I was a teenager, milk has DEFINITELY caused me to have more acne. I stopped drinking milk, garbage potato crisps, and they stopped.

    It will differ from people to people. Find out what causes you problem, and stop it

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    never had issues with milk causing acne, but jacking off and being an overall greasy fuck causes it hardcore, especially if your pores are easily clogged.
    so 2ldr just drink your milk.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me milk has no effect on acne. I drank milk every single day when I went to high school but had acne all over my upper body. Then I stopped drinking it so often, still had acne. Now I got rid of it by spending more time outside, lifting, eating vitamins and counting calories (therefore eating healthier, less fatty food).

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anti milk doctrine only works on non-white skins. 🙂

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Got pretty bad acne as teen, but washing ur fuckin face dozen times a day and using some special cucumber water or whatever pore cleaning shit it was few times a day did help a ton. I drank gallons of milk a week, now maybe gallon a week , i get the shits but its worth it.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am a milk addict with acne- not stopping.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your acne is unrelated to milk consumption unless you consume dairy excessively. Go see a physician or dermatologist if you wanna figure out your acne issues and stop taking advice from single mothers on blogspot.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    see for yourself gay it varies

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I get acne when I drink whole milk and I can't get access to raw so what would be an alternative for GOMAD results be, if any?

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