>Most important muscle from an aesthetics standpoint. >Feels worse to train than legs

>Most important muscle from an aesthetics standpoint
>Feels worse to train than legs
Bros…why??

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    idk i like training abs. I'm the only one who is doing dragon flag. mogging all these powershitters and dyels in my gym

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Training abs feel painful in a different, sharper more intense way than training any other muscle does. What the fuck is up with that and does it go away once your abs get more developed

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >does it go away once your abs get more developed
        i guess yes. i dont feel my abs even thou i use advanced exercises(dragon flag, standing roll out ab wheel and toes to bar)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Toes to bar
          Someone spent like a literal hour doing these on the stretching wrack at my gym the other day. Was it you?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            yes that was me. next time come say hello i always wanted a IST bro

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        100% a mobility/flexibility issue. Could be either genetic, i.e you have really short abdominal ligaments that strain at the bottom of ROM or environmental, i.e you just haven't stretched those fuckers enough to handle any sort of load without tearing - hurting.
        What you need to do is to highly isolated movements, both horizontal and lateral. Crunches/Leg Raises/Russian Twists at no waist, and get at current max depth of ROM and just stay there and sort of like massage your ligaments into stretching more and more by bouncing softly into the motion until it feels comfortable there. Then you keep going incrementally further, now adding weight at previous ROM depth, stretching to the next.
        It's a high rep game anyway and the tighter you remain in ROM, the more snatched your belt line is going to look. Going for that taper.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Not that anon but this is highly useful to me. Thanks

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    feels absolutely awesome to train. equally good as arms.
    you're just a pussy.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Feels worse to train than legs
    What ab exercises do you do?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      sit ups, leg raises and planks

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You just need a stronger core. I do pic rel and don't have a problem with them. Other than the leg raises hurting my neck for some reason.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Can you post abs? That's way more sets than I do.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >planks
        You are woman.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    look at how ugly this physique is due to shitty ab genetics

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Still shredded doesn't really matter you guys get kinda gay with this shit.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        cope harder for your shit genetics bud. you must think Derek is aesthetic too huh

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          What? Damn you sound gay and bitter

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            you bittering all over my dick right now gay lmao!

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You look at men all day and obsess about "aesthetics" (a word you never used previously until gay YouTubers who you idolize used)

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                that’s a lot of words just to express you look like shit lmao!

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >be contrarian
    >IST agrees with my core sucks
    Looks like I’m doing core tonight to prove you gays wrong.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Pecs shoulders and biceps are way more important aesthetically

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I would argue that you have to train legs to train abs right. rectus most neglected quadricep head

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      just do hip flexor exercises like knee kick ups with ur foot in a kettlebell, reverse squats on the cable machine and L sits

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Don't train abs
    >Always hanging in the 14-17% BF range
    >Look big in clothes & hoes love me

    Have fun slaving away for abs to impress fat chicks & gay men

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >lifting only to impress others
      insecure gay

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Would you lift if the results of lifting where invisible? You look the same as any DYEL, just much stronger. I sure as fuck wouldn't.

        I'd still include some lifting & other exercise but would have no incentive to move heavy ass weight.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Would you lift if the results of lifting where invisible?
          I definitely would. Although I do enjoy the gains aspect to it as well. Often I find myself staring at my abs in the mirror for extended periods of time so maybe I’m just lifting for narcissism at this point

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Would you lift if the results of lifting where invisible?
          its fun and healthy

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      everything you listed could be true + spending 5 mins training abs per session and look even better. this is a retarded post.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Only train it with static holds. Serious warning unless you want to pay for hernia surgery. Leg raises might be fine but nothing on the floor or bench unless you're like sub 160lb so you weigh like a feather.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What are some abs exercises then ?

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I do cable crunches a lot and they dont hurt at all

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    youre irritating the gut when you do abs, producing serotonin.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people do planks for abs but never do any static hold type exercises for other bodyparts?
    For example, I've never seen anyone do a bicep curl and then hold the bar in the most difficult position for a minute or anything like that.
    Anyone know the reason?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There is such an exercise

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Never heard of anyone doing it though.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There seems to be an idea that the purpose of abs is to hold the abdomen straight against resistance rather than to actively bend it, which is supposedly harmful in some way when using a lot of strength. Not sure where this originates but it's popular broscience recently among youtube types.
      I suppose it's pretty obvious other muscles are designed to move a joint against resistance so it's rare to consider normal weightlighting with a full ROM harmful for other muscles, but I think it has to do with bending the spine under a lot of stress. Holding-position exercises like planks do exist for most muscles, they're called isometrics.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      do that static hold mid ROM with your arms at a 90 degree angle for 10 sec on your last rep of bicep curls, gains will be had

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Your lifting babyweight if it feels worse to train than legs. Delts and lats are more aesthetic as well

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't mind hitting the abs themselves. My problem is that every other abs exercise has my lower back working with sharp movement. The only abs exercise I can do comfortably are planks and hanging leg raises.

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