My ancestors fought at Stalingrad and got over a trench to run through machine gun fire every time they heard a whistle and i'm too scared to talk to a girl.
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My ancestors fought at Stalingrad and got over a trench to run through machine gun fire every time they heard a whistle and i'm too scared to talk to a girl.
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Yes but they would've been shot by their own troops if they didn't, they had no choice. Odds are they were as much morones as you.
If you're ancestors were smart and had balls, they'd kill every Communist in their path, rob a bank and escape that Soviet shithole, like mine.
His ancestors were German retardo.
no german who fought at stalingrad ended up breeding. OP may be german though iykyk
>no German who fought at stalingrad had children before fighting there
Thank you sir. I love the old stories from my family. I even have some of their old birth certificates from the early 1900's. They were basically Western Ukrainians, but lived in Eastern Poland, like 5 minutes from the border. Their birth certificates even have Catholic crossed out and Orthodox written above it, since there was an Orthodox Christian church in their little farm town.
An ancestor of mine once shouted that Stalin gets fucked by donkeys and they dragged him to the gulag but he still lived lel
Then man up pussy.
Your ancestors lifted weights and weren't a little basedboy gay
>Your ancestors lifted weights
No they didn't.
This guy doesn't believe in fathers or grandfathers
Spend more time outside with people and doing things. Challenge yourself. Confidence doesn't come from just sitting around.
That said, its always going to be a bit scary, you just gotta do it
>Your ancestors lifted weights
t. doesn't understand how soft the times we live in arm
If you have severe anxiety talking to women, you might need some professional help. Even if you do gather up the courage to talk to a girl, she will be probably alarmed by your obvious discomfort and stress. This would only inforce your narrative that you cannot be loved, and will never be in a relationship, which us very likely false. You just need some help.
This help is not going to come from other incels in this forum, and things are not going to get better from trying to forcefully fit yourself into some masculinity prototype.
Fact is, that short men get married, sensitive men get married, geek men get married and so on. It happens literally every day, so you can for sure find that someone and also be yourself in that relationship.
But it's a long road, and it starts with self improvement, finding true happiness in your life and being connected with yourself. Part of that can be going to professionally treat your anxiety, or leaving that for later and focusing on other parts in your life for now.
Good luck my brother
best advice on this thread. Everyone's suffering is relative to them.
If your ancestors were zoomer's today, they'd have the exact same problems. Their personal myth is not yours, and yours not theirs.
chatGPT wrote this
I'm not a native English speaker, I assume it would have done a better job then me lol
true chad here, advising fellow men with the best of intentions.
I do agree with getting professional help but if you can't afford it, the way you get through anxiety and what therapists will tell you to do anyway is exposure therapy. Look it up online, there are even social anxiety exposure therapy guides, where you basically ramp up your social interactions until you're completely comfortable. It takes work but it's worth doing if your social anxiety is a problem.
Contrary to what hack CBT therapists say, exposure shouldn't be used until you process unconscious emotions and become aware of the root of your issues. An elevator phobia and intimacy phobia is never directly about the elevator or about the woman and brute force white knuckling talking to women when you're an anxious insecure wreck doesn't just magically solve all your emotional issues nor resolve your underlying unconscious conflicts.
Thread ended here, goodspeed anon
A surprisingly and refreshingly nice post, anon
>If you have severe anxiety talking to women, you might need some professional help. Even if you do gather up the courage to talk to a girl, she will be probably alarmed by your obvious discomfort and stress. This would only inforce your narrative that you cannot be loved, and will never be in a relationship, which us very likely false. You just need some help.
>This help is not going to come from other incels in this forum, and things are not going to get better from trying to forcefully fit yourself into some masculinity prototype.
>Fact is, that short men get married, sensitive men get married, geek men get married and so on. It happens literally every day, so you can for sure find that someone and also be yourself in that relationship.
>But it's a long road, and it starts with self improvement, finding true happiness in your life and being connected with yourself. Part of that can be going to professionally treat your anxiety, or leaving that for later and focusing on other parts in your life for now.
>Good luck my brother
TLDR + YOU'RE GAY
>more than 60% of young men are single
>only 30% of young women are single
If you live in America as a young male, you are STATISTICALLY likely to be loveless.
Sure, short/bald/fat/etc men still get married and lead happy lives. But that's a statistical minority. Handwaving the general lack of love plaguing the average young male with "but ugly people find joy anyways" is pointless at best, disingenuous at worst.
Do you think 60% of young men are simply too pussy to walk up to a woman and talk to her? That 60% of young men just need to go get professional help? This points to more deep-rooted societal issues that "bro go to a therapist" simply won't fix.
I do agree that the best thing you can do right now, as an individual, is to just seek your own happiness and self-improve. Perhaps this is the only problem that is affecting OP. I just find it necessary to reaffirm that "anxiety" is not the only reason so many young guys are loveless nowadays.
bro how tf pepe change colors like that fr fr
its true my cousin divorced his wife and it didnt even last a year its over
You’re both missing a bit of the historical way men used to get wives. The idea that every one of your ancestors walked up to a bitch and hit on her is ridiculous. Having your parents or someone else be matchmaker was extremely common. When women need a man to not starve they are far more willing to deal with a shitty guy. Men haven’t gotten worse or more scared probably, women have higher standards and arranged marriages are way way down.
>>more than 60% of young men are single
>>only 30% of young women are single
How would that even work logically?
>The most attractive and desirable men are banging multiple women at the same time; to them they're only fuckbuddies/FWBs so he'd mark himself as "single" in the survey. To the women they view it as "seeing somebody", so they mark it themselves as "not single".
>Younger women are dating older men, who have compensated their less-than-stellar looks with financial stability and status.
Neither of these two causes bode well for the average young dude in his 20s. He either gets to wait until his 30s or cope with the fact that OND has rendered sub-8 men invisible to a lot of women.
>If you have severe anxiety talking to women, you might need some professional help.
get the fuck out of here glow moron
to anyone reading this: stay as far from the psychiatric system as much as humanly possible
Oh I'm bloooooming
You really can't hold yourself to the same standards as your predecessors, I found this out the hard way.
>Get really bad glandular fever when I was 13
>So bad that I couldn't attend school for 6 months
>Left scarring in my throat, continually got tonsillitis afterwards to the extent that doctors wouldn't give me antibiotics because my body needed to be able to fight it
>Sick constantly up until I was 17
>Scrawny as fuck
>Managed to get onto mass-gainers, started lifting
>Really came away from it huge as fuck
>Felt weird though, like I could never be excited about anything
>Go to doctors, tells me my body isn't producing the right chemicals and that I have ultra depression
>Tells me I can be medicated or just try to wait it out until my body eventually produces it on its own
>Decide to avoid the medication
>Wake up one morning when I'm 22 and genuinely look forward to running that evening
>Head to doctor and he confirms that I'm chemically balanced
>Attend a relatives birthday
>See my grandfather there, we start chatting outside
>Really excited, tell him about my life since I'd last seen him as a kid
>Hes happy, but leans in close to me and asks "Anon did you ever think about killing yourself though"
>Admit that it crossed my mind
>"Well anon, when I was 13, I accidentally shot my friends sister through the stomach. She died whilst me and my friend, her brother, dragged her back to my fathers farm house. I told my friend I'd kill myself if he told anyone that I'd shot her. He agreed to stay silent and eventually killed himself weeks later. To this day, I still think about how I drastically changed their entire family's life. I think about killing myself but know I'd go to hell."
>Sit there trying to comprehend what he'd just told me
>He died 2 years later and left me the farmland he inherited.
chatgpt posts are getting better
Hoping you're just flexing your creative writing muscles, because that's a pretty good short story. Fucking hell if real though.
Hope you're doing well
Reddit fag please put me in the screenshot 🙂
im pretty sure I'd rather dodge machine gun fire than try to come up with interesting banter on the fly with a stranger who's already got me anxious because she's so hot and oh man I'd really like to hook up with her
Anon, odds are that your ancestors were still afraid of talking to girls when they came back from the war. It's two completely different things.
your ancestors were afraid of the garden gnomes. even more pathetic
Your ancestors could also just go wherever they wanted, ask for a job without education or training, get it, ask a woman out and have a good chance of her and her family agreeing if you were socially on level, which basically already meant marriage and the promise of having a child and being able to support that family financially
Normal (non-incel) people still do all those things.
Oh, forgot you can support a family of 3 from stacking shelves at Walmart.
So start a business, you act like you are some helpless child, be a man.
I am successful. I am giving OP some perspective that some things, especially the ones that are now particularly important to the current generation of men that feel left behind, were a lot easier to obtain in the past, despite all the other struggles they had to live with. We may be pussies now but some of the hardships we deal with are real and not everything our ancestors had to deal with was worse.
Your ancestors could also talk to girls without being jailed or socially outcast for life
I talk to girls all the time and I'm not 'jailed or socially outcast for life'.
t. On parole
One more slip up and back to the slammer for you, you dirty sexual deviant
I am 100% sure that if they were placed in our situation, they would be just as hopeless
have a nice day ryssä
They were faced with immediate death. You suffer the slow, agonizing rot of decadence and cultural decline.
thats because its easier and less humiliating to be thrown in the front given a rifle and told to run forward than it is to pick up a girl when you're average or below average
They did with NKVD pointing a gun to their head
You want to know the difference?
They went into machine gun fire TOGETHER
They had male spaces, male groups, male friendships, male bonding
Hell, there even used to be all-male bars, where men could get together and bond over anything
But through the years, feminists and others systematically infiltrated and destroyed every single male space, and shamed male friendships
Now, every man is alone, male companionship is dead and comraderie is destroyed
So yes, things are hard today
Speak for yourself, I've got plenty of male friends.
this is true, it's one of the better things Andrew Tate says. who you're with is how you are. when you're surrounded by brave men it's almost impossible to be a coward. when you're surrounded by men who are players and approach girls, you will start doing it too. my problem is that i'm the most motivated out of all my friends, which is not a good place to be. i don't know how to find new friends, especially go-getter friends
Salient points, anon
you should shit in your hand and fling your shit at them bitches love shit
When I was in high school I'd dive headfirst in 1vs4 fights in which I was 100% sure to get my head bashed in but bitch out whenever I had the opportunity to talk to that girl I desperately wanted to fuck.
Serious question, why are hot women scary? From a psychological perspective.
i heard this from a person into psychology
it's because you instinctively think there's a big guy protecting her
fighting in a war is unironically easier than talking to women in 2023
Because you become overly self-conscious of all your flaws (both physical and social) when faced with a beautiful woman. The woman isn't scary; the thoughts that come bubbling to the surface are. From a psychological perspective as you said.
Great, you're shipping off to Donbass tomorrow
you know, I think about stuff like this a lot
but instead of using it to feel sorry about myself I just think
>man, that fuckin guy just went and held off an entire army on a bridge by himself, so what the fuck am I afraid of?
and then I just do whatever thing I was avoiding
that's how I got over my fear of public speaking, for example
Sure they did, you lying little cunt
Many such cases
>twitter account deleted
what happened to him, seems like it was just recently deleted too
u are alive right that means your granddad didnt die in war so that means hes a beta and so are you cus u have his genetics
I genuinely feel more comfortable risking my very life than I am with the thought of asking a girl out. haha
People need to understand that you need to historize things. The dynamics between men and women back then are not the same as they are now. And comparing fighting in a battle versus talking women is not comparable either. One draws in a psychology of self-preservation, the other draws in the psychology of procreation and denial.
Try to be kind to yourself, anon.
become stronger than your ancestors you gay
So just channel your ancestry
shut up we're fighting aliens now
anyone who says "you might need help" or "get help" no matter the tone, no matter how genuine it is (and often they genuinely believe it), is not looking out for your best interests
you only have yourself, a man walks alone, and self overcoming is greatest thing a man can achieve
this isnt some stupid macho thing its just true
were all here bc we understand this to an extent, were here to become strong and self overcome
the process is the same in any aspect of life
if youre creepy and offputting bc of anxiety, the only thing that fixes that is 1. biology (optimise your metabolic/hormonal state) and 2. practice, putting yourself in slightly uncomfortable situations, testing the waters and progressively treading a little farther until youre comfortable in the open ocean
dont listen to this recent trend of people saying "its not a show of weakness to seek help"
whether its weak in the first place is not the point, going to a psychiatrist will put you in a world of endless procedure, endless pathologising, medications which will cripple you, and at the very least it will break you slowly
it is fundamentally a submissive relationship and it will erode your soul
you only have yourself, the pursuit of beauty
making your life into a work of art, your body a sculpture and your mind a temple
read great literature: the iliad and odyssey, read moby dick, shakespeare, mishima, junger, etc
study greek sculpture and architecture
study alexander, julius caesar, napoleon
learn what greatness means and move towards it
You don't understand psychology
Your heart's in the right place, but psychological damage and maldevelopment aren't things that can be universally hand-waved in face of logical, consistent and properly applied self-help and education. If your outlook on life, the self, others, or relations is all fucked up then your own access to the tools to self-reflect, be critical/constructive or apply any of these insights is already negatively impacted, or maybe even outright crippled.
How does one apply proper teachings and methodology in physical fitness if they have scoliosis? Can you objectively educate yourself and apply the training principles in any given athletic discipline if you have some fucked up wasting disease?
Some people have limitless capacity for all kinds of improvement. Others don't. To write off all of psychology as against one's interests is easy, and from some stances understandable, but also wrong. The weaponization of the science and over-medication is one of humanity's greatest sins, no question. But all the lessons learned aren't evil or useless-some are necessary, for the truly damaged to begin to heal.
i'm literally greek and i'm too scared to talk to a girl
imagine mfw my ancestors look at me now
it's fucking over
you're not scared of talking to girls
your're scared of failing while talking to girls
How do you even speak to women? I’ve never had a woman show interest in me before sexually at least, I’m 20. Going to pubs/clubbing doesn’t help. I’d say I’m 5/10 face wise but 5’7, could lose a bit of weight but I also have a bit of muscle too
Watch socializing video online and get into theater plays.
You have to act until it becomes real.
Any particular vids/channels you recommend?
Just eat liver. It will solve your problems
>My ancestors fought at Stalingrad
If you wanna go to war, you can still sign up
>fought at Guadalcanal
>fought at Iwo Jima
>fought in Korea
>fat and single (although not a virgin)
Your ancestors should've been glassed gay along with garden gnomeSA
Fuck you. gay pederast. Russia is the greatest country in world history
just go to war, conveniently your country is having one now! Sign up and run through trenches!
Your ancestors fought the garden gnome-misics, you didn't really deviate that much from them.
>be great grandpa
>was such a chad they deemed his alpha genetics too great to sacrifice in the war so the marine corps kept him in the states to train meat shield betas
>went on to become a condom salesman after the war because he had so much sex
>haven't been on a date in over 6 years, virgin, zero dating prospects, zero talking to girl skills
sometimes I think I'd rather get blown up just so I'm not just remembered as the family loser. My dad and older brother faced the bullets and rockets too although came out (physically) unscathed.