My orthodontist said Im a candidate for Jaw Surgery. Has anyone here ever had it before? Is it worth it?

My orthodontist said I’m a candidate for Jaw Surgery. Has anyone here ever had it before? Is it worth it? What’s the recovery time like and how long will it be before I can go to the gym again?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that you?
    Are you this girl?
    You're hot pls Date me

    Other2ise fufk off with this bullshit

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >orthodontist offered me jaw surgery when I was a teen and I said no, just straightening my teeth was fine

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >get braces a few years ago
      >teeth are fricked, top and bottom jaw don’t even touch
      >they recommended jaw surgery and I was fine with it
      >but I couldn’t afford it on top of the braces (plus driving 3h total for a single appointment)
      >they claim I was refusing it
      it annoys me when I think about it. the audacity to say I was refusing to get the surgery, when not only did they not help whatsoever in setting it up or just getting an appointment, but to then outright ignore my stating multiple times I couldn’t afford it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like you refused it to me anon. Did you expect them to just make it cheaper for you?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          no, I expected them to stop asking me a dumb question they know the answer to and not act surprised

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Refused in that context is much more neutral than in regular speech

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >my salesman said I'm a great candidate for a certified pre-owned Toyota

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      My orthodontist recommended just braces though, he said he could fix ~80% of my issues with just braces from his practice but to totally fix my problem I’d need jaw surgery, which he wouldn’t make money from

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oops

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >my orthodontist said I’m a candidate for israelite Surgery

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly is your problem that you need that kind of surgery

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      My jaws are misaligned and my bottom jaw is recessed so I have lip incompetence and my teeth and mouth just feel uncomfortable

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >IST - Cosmetic Surgery

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not cosmetic if it has actual functional benefits

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        like pulling chicks amirite

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah reproduction, literally the most important benefit of all.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Darwinian fitness

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    My orthodontist suggested it 10 years ago and I didn’t even tell my parents about it because I know we are too poor and my dad would’ve shut it down. I should’ve begged them for it.

    Thx.chinlet4life

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >My orthodontist said I'm a candidate to pay for his new boat

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I knew some guy who got it and would tell anyone who would listen that it was the biggest regret of his life. He was an actor with chad like facial aesthetics, but the surgery fricked up how he looked, he also had a ton of pain after the surgery. He atleast convinced me not to get it.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is your jaw especially messed up from some tooth problem OP?

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got double jaw surgery about 4 months ago because I used to have a pretty severe underbite.

    They used a small, rotating, Dremel-like saw to completely remove my upper jaw from my skull. They then took my detached upper jaw, sawed it in half, put it in a plastic splint to widen it about 8mm, and then reattached it to my skull several millimeters forward using custom-made titanium plates and screws.

    For my lower jaw, they made 4 cuts with the same saw in order to remove a few millimeters of bone and move my lower jaw backwards.

    They also rotated both of my jaws to the left about 1-2 millimeters.

    They then used rubber bands to get my jaws pretty tightly closed for about 6 weeks.

    By the way, I had to wear braces for about 3 1/2 years leading up to my surgery. And I didn't do a ton of research on the entire jaw surgery process, and so I didn't pick a dental insurance that covers braces (which I think is Delta by the way), and so I had to pay the full $7,000 just for the braces alone.

    I also have CareFirst health insurance, which has done a pretty good job of covering my jaw surgery costs so far. One of the bills from the hospital was over $208,000, and I only had to pay about $1,300 of it. My jaw surgeon charged my insurance about $21,000, and again I only had to pay about $1,300 of it. But definitely do a lot of research on insurance so that you'll find an insurer who won't fight you on covering the surgery. But if they do fight you, keep harassing them until they approve it.

    There's an entire subreddit dedicated to specifically this issue.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FightInsuranceDenials/

    /r/JawSurgery is also pretty useful.

    (cont.)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Other bills that you're going to have to pay: getting your wisdom teeth removed (I don't remember the cost), the dozen or so visits to your jaw surgeon, paying your anesthesiologist (about $400 for me), paying the radiologist that does your CT scans (I had to pay like $200 after insurance), paying your hospital again (I had to pay $1,500 right before my surgery), and other possible expenses like complications arising from the surgery. I had to go to the emergency room at like 4:00 AM on the 3rd morning of my recovery because I could barely breathe. The surgery caused my face to swell up like a balloon. And blood would gush out of my mouth and nose whenever I sat up straight or stood up to walk. And so my lips ended up fusing together from all of the swelling, blood, drool, and snot. And my nasal cavities were almost completely full of black blood clots.

      That ended up costing me about $2,500 because my local emergency hospital didn't feel comfortable yanking all of the blood clots out of my nostrils because they were afraid of screwing up my surgery. And so they forced me to go back to the hospital that performed my surgery. And they forced me to take an ambulance because I was in really bad shape. The ambulance alone cost me nearly $1,000 after insurance.

      I also had to go to a ear, throat, and nose specialist (twice - so far) after my surgery because the surgery aggravated my TMJ and gave me absolutely awful pain in my right ear. Thankfully, that has eventually gone away, but I'm scared of it coming back some day.

      I've also done 1 speech therapy appointment and scheduled 3 more because I still can't talk right.

      But that's just the bills and the annoyance of having to go to doctor after doctor.

      (cont.)

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        To get back to what the surgery and recovery is like; you have to go the hospital performing your surgery about 1 month prior so that they can take detailed measurements of your face - both inside and out. They also give you written instructions on how to prepare for your surgery and what to do during recovery (that's another bill that I forgot about - but I think my insurance covered 100% of the $2,000-ish bill).

        To get ready, I recommend buying a couple of extra food syringes just to be safe, some large squeezy condiment bottles with wide mouths and nipples (snip the nipples to make them even wider), a really good blender (I personally recommend the large capacity Ninja blenders because the lids lock on), a LOT of vanilla flavored Premier Protein shakes (they taste the best and have the most protein), several boxes of children's sugary breakfast cereals to mix with the Premier Protein shakes

        (this might sound unhealthy, but it was the only thing that worked for me. I couldn't believe how much my taste buds changed while I had the splint in my mouth. Things that I typically loved like my favorite protein powders and instant coffee made me want to vomit for some reason, as did most things that I tried to eat, errr swallow. And so I ended up losing 20 pounds during the first 2 weeks of my recovery. Blending sugary children's breakfast cereals with vanilla flavored Premier Protein shakes + heaping tablespoons of peanut butter and generous squirts of maple syrup and then putting it in a large condiment bottle to swallow like a snake allowed me to put on 25 pounds in 4 weeks)

        (cont.)

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          extra towels (you're going to drool over every single inch of your house and get food, water, blood, and liquid medicines all over yourself and your furniture), a small bell with a handle to shake if you have a health emergency (you can't talk for at least a week), the "Big" app on iOS since it makes it easier to communicate with people via large text, you can also go into the Accessibility part of your iPhone and turn on the text to speech option (I forget how - so Google it), MAYBE a wedge pillow (I only used mine for a week, and so you can probably get away with just using extra pillows), a water flosser (on the weakest setting), pipe cleaners to brush your teeth as best you can (insanely difficult and annoying), a handheld mirror so you can see what you're doing as you try to eat and drink, a wide plastic tub to eat and drink over because you're going to drool A LOT, some saline nasal sprays (absolute lifesavers. You can use the saline ones as much as you want. The more powerful Afrin spray that they'll probably tell you about should only be used like twice a day for 3 days. Just make sure that you use them correctly by snorting the spray deep into your nostrils, or else it won't work and you'll have to go to the emergency room like me), mmm, I can't really think of anything else off of the top of my head.

          (cont.)

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            But, yeah - the recovery sucks more dick than you can ever possibly imagine. Almost everyone tells you that the first week especially is absolute Hell on Earth, but nothing can prepare you for actually going through with it. Your energy levels will be rock bottom from the healing and lack of normal food, you'll feel nauseous from eating blended slop, you'll be bored out of your mind (and so make sure to have something ready to go like shows or whatever while recovering. I was too weak to even play video games to be honest), you'll become obsessed with eating normal food again, your mouth will reek and feel absolutely disgusting because you can't brush your teeth properly, et cetera.

            (cont.)

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              But to circle back to the surgery process; you'll have to arrive at like 5:30 AM, and so you probably won't get any sleep that night. Once they call you into the surgery prep room, you'll probably see a ton of nurses running around prepping other patients for surgery. They'll make you put on a gown and place all of your valuables in a bag - which they'll put in a small locker for you. They'll have you sign paper work and ask you a bunch of health screening questions (I forgot that you have to do a pre-op exam by your primary care physician to make sure that you're healthy enough to do the surgery). They'll put an IV in you (my nurse fricked mine up like 4 times before she called someone more experienced over to do it for her). And then next you know they'll call you into the operating room. I walked in with my ass cheeks exposed because I put my gown on wrong - which was embarrassing and a nurse fixed for me. You'll see scans of your skull on backlit holders and way more people than you were probably expecting. Someone will yell "THE PATIENT HAS ENTERED THE OPERATING ROOM" and they'll escort you to the operating table. As soon as you lie down, you'll get swarmed by all sorts of people who are doing all sorts of crap to you like strapping your legs and arms in, putting a mask on your face, putting sticky nodes all over your body, and then the next thing you know you're completely out (literally 10 seconds after I lied down on the operating table). Your surgery will probably last several hours, but you won't remember a single thing about it. To you you instantly woke up in a recovery room surrounded by a bunch of nurses and doctors and your friends and family. You'll have a mini mask on your face blowing humidity into your face. And your entire head and the sides of your face will be wrapped in bandages.

              (cont.)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Then stuff just really annoying from here. Every hour or so a nurse or doctor will check on you and force you to take meds. I ended up coughing all of mine over a thicc Latina nurse - which I still feel bad about. And oh yeah, they shove a long catheter up your dick hole while you're out so that you don't piss all over the operating table. They somehow fricked mine up, and so I was pissing blood for about 30 hours (they won't let you go home until you stop pissing blood). And God, the meds are so fricking gross. They taste like ultra-sweet artificial fruit, burn the hell out of your throat, and you have to take a TON of them. We're talking full syringes here - which you have to very slowly squirt into the part of your jaw where your wisdom teeth got removed since that's the only opening where liquid can make it past your teeth. And you'll inevitably cough half of it up, and so you'll be absolutely covered in sticky meds that reek of artificial fruit. It's legit fricked.

                Oh, and a lot of people complain about violently puking blood as soon as they wake up from surgery, or soon after. And that's a fricking nightmare because, again, your fricking jaws are wired shut. And so the puke has to go somewhere. I guess your face kind of blows up like a grenade and they have to rush to cut your wires or some crap. I honestly don't know because I thankfully never puked (I almost did though). I was aware of this danger from watching jaw surgery journey videos on YouTube and reading posts on /r/JawSurgery. And so I brought this up with my surgeons and they made sure to give me extra anti-nausea meds (they put a couple of anti-nausea patches on my head - which I forgot about and left on for weeks until they eventually fell off while showering).

                Mmm. What else should you know...

                (cont.)

                Holy shit

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Here's some actual footage of the surgeries for all of the gore fans.

                (fun fact: that's a cadaver - hence the lack of blood)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                God bless surgeons for what they do but frick, I couldn't do this shit
                I guess you get desensitised though...

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know, right. I made the mistake of watching these vids before my surgery because I wanted to fully understand what I was getting into. It was like watching the most disturbing horror movies ever made because it's real and I knew that I was going to have to go through it soon myself.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Then stuff just really annoying from here. Every hour or so a nurse or doctor will check on you and force you to take meds. I ended up coughing all of mine over a thicc Latina nurse - which I still feel bad about. And oh yeah, they shove a long catheter up your dick hole while you're out so that you don't piss all over the operating table. They somehow fricked mine up, and so I was pissing blood for about 30 hours (they won't let you go home until you stop pissing blood). And God, the meds are so fricking gross. They taste like ultra-sweet artificial fruit, burn the hell out of your throat, and you have to take a TON of them. We're talking full syringes here - which you have to very slowly squirt into the part of your jaw where your wisdom teeth got removed since that's the only opening where liquid can make it past your teeth. And you'll inevitably cough half of it up, and so you'll be absolutely covered in sticky meds that reek of artificial fruit. It's legit fricked.

              Oh, and a lot of people complain about violently puking blood as soon as they wake up from surgery, or soon after. And that's a fricking nightmare because, again, your fricking jaws are wired shut. And so the puke has to go somewhere. I guess your face kind of blows up like a grenade and they have to rush to cut your wires or some crap. I honestly don't know because I thankfully never puked (I almost did though). I was aware of this danger from watching jaw surgery journey videos on YouTube and reading posts on /r/JawSurgery. And so I brought this up with my surgeons and they made sure to give me extra anti-nausea meds (they put a couple of anti-nausea patches on my head - which I forgot about and left on for weeks until they eventually fell off while showering).

              Mmm. What else should you know...

              (cont.)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                bro this is an actual horror story, holy hell!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's all sorts of horrible details that I left out because they're too embarrassing. Definitely the hardest thing that I've ever been through by far.

                oh goodie
                i get my jaw sugery on the 31st :*~~*~~

                Don't let my doom posting psych you out. The end result will be worth the temporary suffering. Good luck.

                Holy frick post before and after pics already

                I feel like I'm going to regret this...

                https://i.imgur.com/o3lXBXa.jpg

                Some of these double jaw surgery pics are incredible, id say its worth it

                Awww. She cute. She's basically the female version of me, but cuter. I bet she feels great.

                https://i.imgur.com/X4JbFG4.jpg

                Lol, so be a Chinlet or have my face sawn in half and puke blood. Hmmmmm.

                I have a very strong jaw, but a frightfully weak chin, it always bothered me, then in high school they released this show I liked called Banshee, with a grizzled ex con sheriff. The actor now rather famous had a massive overbite, so one day I adopted the look, at first I couldn't do it for long, it was too awkward for my lower jaw, now I've been doing it so long I don't even realize it half the time. Suddenly my weak chin was no longer a problem. Thanks Antony. Maybe some of you should try that before getting dangerous elective surgery.

                I'm confused. How can you "adopt" an actor's overbite? Do you mean that you learned to embrace your overbite? But more power to you, my dude. I just couldn't learn to embrace my underbite. It was just too fricked up. I could literally stick my tongue between the gaps in my teeth. And only my last 2 molars touched, and only halfway. And so that's where I had to do all of my chewing. If my jaws continued to move just a couple of millimeters more, I probably would have been chomping into my gums every time I chewed.

                By the way, most females wait until 18 to get the surgery because that's when the bones stop growing. Males have to wait until about 21 because our bones grow longer. You have to get measured every year to see when your bones stop moving so that your surgeons can go ahead with your surgery and you don't have to worry about relapse. Just FYI. I have a lot of this info bouncing around in my head and I like to share.

                I had double jaw surgery in December. The week immediately afterwards I lost 10 pounds and struggled daily to eat, sleep, and breath. No speaking for three weeks. I still have odd sensory issues on the right side of my jaw. It was 10 weeks total before I got back to the gym.

                Honestly though? Best decision of my life. My teeth got together correctly got the first time. My face looks better.

                I can't believe I forgot to mention how this surgery makes it impossible to sleep well too.

                Your saliva glands are the first part of the digestive process. They help to break food down as soon as it enters your mouth. And so the sudden appearance of an alien object (my splint) in my mouth caused my saliva glands to go into overdrive. I could have filled a cup every hour with much I was drooling. And that completely ruined my sleep because saliva would accumulate in the back of my throat and choke me when I lied down. God, that was awful.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You probably already got the gist, but you have to be on an all liquid diet for at least 6 weeks while your splint is still in. And even after they take your splint out (by the way, not everyone needs a splint because there's different types of jaw surgeries and techniques), you still won't be able to eat like a normal person because 1) you'll barely be able to open your mouth (I couldn't even fit a single finger in-between my teeth for 1 week following the removal of my splint), and 2) your teeth and gums are going to be hella tender and painful (oh, forgot to add that they put a bunch of stitches in your gums that gradually dissolve on their own). I legit cried when I got my celebratory meal at a restaurant right after my oral surgeon removed my splint and I couldn't eat it at all. I was looking forward to that meal for 6 weeks. It was all I could think about. And I couldn't even take a single nibble because my jaws were still super fricked up. It took me about a week after the removal of my splint that I could very gently chew soft food, and only after I cut it up into tiny pieces beforehand. And so prepare yourself for not being able to eat normal food for AT LEAST 2 months following your surgery. Heck, at 3 months post-op I was still struggling to chew things like sausages. And still to this day at 4 months post-op I have to cut up some of my food. And I still can't eat nuts or hard fruits like apples. And I probably won't be able to for an entire freaking year according to other people who went through double jaw surgery. But the silver lining here is that I've gotten pretty good at making really healthy smoothies - which is how I consume nuts, fruits, and vegetables.

                (cont.)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh goodie
                i get my jaw sugery on the 31st :*~~*~~

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Holy frick post before and after pics already

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hmmm. What else should you know...

                Oh, you risk suffering from permanent numbness in your face. My surgeon said it's around 10%, but I looked at the studies myself and at polling data from jaw surgery forums like /r/JawSurgery, and I'd say it's closer to 30%. Unfortunately, I fear I might be one of them because I have super intense numbness on my chin from my lower lip to the tip of my chin. It feels like your foot is asleep, but more intense. They say it can take 12 months for the nerves in jaws to fully heal. And so I won't know until then if it's permanent or not. They also say that you learn to live with it and it's not a big deal, but it's definitely more annoying than you're letting on. But I do agree with them that I still would have gotten the surgery even if I knew my chin would be numb like this.

                Also, the swelling can take anywhere from 6-18 months to go away completely.

                And oh yeah, my lower lip burned like crazy for about 10 weeks or so. And I still get frequent flare ups.

                Anything else worth sharing...

                Oh, you asked about weight lifting. My surgeon said don't do anything besides walking for 6 weeks. No pull ups, push ups, bench press, nothing. But a lot of people claim that the walking helps with the recovery by getting your blood flowing and boosting your mood. So, yeah - go for lots of walks and just accept the fact that you'll lose about 40% of your gains. That's how much that I estimated that I lost. And I was shocked by quickly I lost my gains and how skinny fat I got. But the good news is that muscle memory is real and you'll regain 90% of your gains in about a month or so. That's what I personally experienced. So, yeah - I wouldn't let that dissuade you to be honest. Oh, and be very careful when doing anything, including going for walks. Your jaws are fragile as the bone regrows, and so I've heard of people needing revisions after having an accident.

                (cont.)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                And speaking of revisions and relapses; I think that's downplayed - both by oral surgeons and the larger jaw surgery community. I'm not a doctor, but to me it seems like the body is pretty good at "knowing" where everything is supposed to be in your body at the DNA level. And so if you frick with it and try to move it around, it will eventually try to pull it back to where it's coded to be. I've seen videos of people having slight relapses that weren't a big deal, but other people being in horrible pain and needing to get revision surgeries - meaning that they have to go through this nightmare again (please God no). And I've seen other complications too like screws coming out somehow, getting infected, and needing to be fixed with surgeries. One dude apparently died in South Korea not too long ago because he was obsessed with looking like a K-Pop idol. He had all sorts of work done to his face, and while removing the plates and screws, his jaws got infected and he died (although I've seen some people claim that the entire story is fake). Me personally, I had a close call in this regard. I forgot to mention this (there's so many fricking details), but I had absolutely terrible night sweats for about 3 weeks following my surgery. And so I almost certainly had an infection. They have me oral Ciprofloxacin, and they eventually went away. Oh, and speaking of infections, I also had an absolutely horrible rash on the right side of my body that I first noticed on my first night home. And so I almost certainly got during my surgery. I asked my surgeon what it was, and he had no idea. Asked my dermatologist what it was, and he also wasn't sure. And so I must have had an allergic reaction to something. Maybe it was the wienertail of meds that they gave me.

                (cont.)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm also kinda worried that I might have a relapse and need a revision because my lower jaw keeps shifting to the left. And my teeth still don't meet together like a normal person's, and so my orthodontist is trying to fix it with rubber bands.

                I also have to wear my braces for several more months. And when they take them out, I have to wear a retainer at night for the rest of my lapse, or, again, I risk relapse (mostly of the teeth though I think, not the jaws). They also put a thin stainless steel wire across the roof of my mouth in order to prevent a collapse of the upper jaw. I think I have to wear that for several months as well. You can also get permanent retainers installed into the back of your teeth, but my orthodontist told me that the ones in the upper jaw typically only last about a year and cost about $350 to replace. I also feel like they'd be annoying and make it harder for me to talk, eat, and brush my teeth.

                And that's another thing. I was expecting my mouth to feel much more cavernous, but it's actually the opposite. Because my lower jaw was moved back, my tongue is being squished into the back of my teeth a little bit. And so having a permanent retainer there would probably just make that problem even more annoying.

                I'm not really sure what else you should know and I'm getting sick of typing. But I'm going to scroll up and read what people replied to me. Feel free to ask me any questions you want. I can even post before and after pics if you want. But only if you promise to be nice to me. Having screwed up jaws really takes a toll on your self-confidence and makes you hyper-sensitive to people criticizing what you look like.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, yeah - I just wanted to conclude by reiterating what almost everybody says after getting jaw surgery. Yeah, it's horrible, but we still don't regret it because being ugly sucks even more.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post the before and after pics qt3.14. Also how old r u?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Forgot to add that LACOMS is considered to be the best jaw surgery clinic in America according to the consensus of the jaw surgery community (could be secretly sponsored and pimped though). But they charge you more for sure. Expect to pay $25,000+ after insurance if you get it done by them. Or even $40,000 if you get a nose job and other cosmetic procedures along with the jaw surgery in order to improve the overall aesthetic of your face. Heck, I've seen some people claim that they paid over $100,000 out of pocket. I don't know where they got that done though. But, me personally, I actually would have paid that extra $25,000 knowing what I know now because, while my jaws look pretty good now, the rest of my face is still kinda busted. And so it would have been great if I jaw got my whole face redone in one surgery, rather than saving money and still not being 100% happy with how my face looks now. Just something to think about. However, I don't want this to dissuade you from getting the surgery if you can't afford that. There's lots of competent surgeons out there that are probably in-network with your insurance. There's also the annoyance factor. I honestly don't know how people handle traveling all the way to LA to get their jaw surgery done at LACOMS because I had to go back to my jaw surgeon every every week and then every other week for my recovery. And I still have to have to see him again in about 3 months after my orthodontist takes my braces off. I can't imagine flying to LA like 10 times or staying out there for 6+ months. That would have been annoying and expensive as frick. And so that's why I ended up going with a surgeon who's only about 10 minutes away from me. He was in-network with my insurance, my orthodontist (who I really like) highly recommended him, he earned his medical degree from an Ivy League university, and he has nearly perfect 5 star reviews on Google. Granted, I wouldn't have given him a 5 star review, but he still did okay.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm also kinda worried that I might have a relapse and need a revision because my lower jaw keeps shifting to the left. And my teeth still don't meet together like a normal person's, and so my orthodontist is trying to fix it with rubber bands.
                I'm 6 months into recovery and my and surgeon told me this is expected behaviour, because the jaw joint is still adjusting to its new position and will erode and regrow over time. I can confirm that the jaw shifting continues to improve, it just takes a long time. I also had to wear rubber bands for 5 more months until the braces came off. As I understand it this is a normal part of the process, to stretch out your muscles so they don't pull your jaw back into it's old place; not your orthodontist trying to post-hoc fix an unforeseen issue.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I see. That's reassuring to know. My oral surgeon told me that it was a normal part of the TMJ disk shifting around and that it wasn't something to be worried about. I just hope he's right.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lol, so be a Chinlet or have my face sawn in half and puke blood. Hmmmmm.

                I have a very strong jaw, but a frightfully weak chin, it always bothered me, then in high school they released this show I liked called Banshee, with a grizzled ex con sheriff. The actor now rather famous had a massive overbite, so one day I adopted the look, at first I couldn't do it for long, it was too awkward for my lower jaw, now I've been doing it so long I don't even realize it half the time. Suddenly my weak chin was no longer a problem. Thanks Antony. Maybe some of you should try that before getting dangerous elective surgery.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Other bills that you're going to have to pay: getting your wisdom teeth removed (I don't remember the cost), the dozen or so visits to your jaw surgeon, paying your anesthesiologist (about $400 for me), paying the radiologist that does your CT scans (I had to pay like $200 after insurance), paying your hospital again (I had to pay $1,500 right before my surgery), and other possible expenses like complications arising from the surgery. I had to go to the emergency room at like 4:00 AM on the 3rd morning of my recovery because I could barely breathe. The surgery caused my face to swell up like a balloon. And blood would gush out of my mouth and nose whenever I sat up straight or stood up to walk. And so my lips ended up fusing together from all of the swelling, blood, drool, and snot. And my nasal cavities were almost completely full of black blood clots.

      That ended up costing me about $2,500 because my local emergency hospital didn't feel comfortable yanking all of the blood clots out of my nostrils because they were afraid of screwing up my surgery. And so they forced me to go back to the hospital that performed my surgery. And they forced me to take an ambulance because I was in really bad shape. The ambulance alone cost me nearly $1,000 after insurance.

      I also had to go to a ear, throat, and nose specialist (twice - so far) after my surgery because the surgery aggravated my TMJ and gave me absolutely awful pain in my right ear. Thankfully, that has eventually gone away, but I'm scared of it coming back some day.

      I've also done 1 speech therapy appointment and scheduled 3 more because I still can't talk right.

      But that's just the bills and the annoyance of having to go to doctor after doctor.

      (cont.)

      To get back to what the surgery and recovery is like; you have to go the hospital performing your surgery about 1 month prior so that they can take detailed measurements of your face - both inside and out. They also give you written instructions on how to prepare for your surgery and what to do during recovery (that's another bill that I forgot about - but I think my insurance covered 100% of the $2,000-ish bill).

      To get ready, I recommend buying a couple of extra food syringes just to be safe, some large squeezy condiment bottles with wide mouths and nipples (snip the nipples to make them even wider), a really good blender (I personally recommend the large capacity Ninja blenders because the lids lock on), a LOT of vanilla flavored Premier Protein shakes (they taste the best and have the most protein), several boxes of children's sugary breakfast cereals to mix with the Premier Protein shakes

      (this might sound unhealthy, but it was the only thing that worked for me. I couldn't believe how much my taste buds changed while I had the splint in my mouth. Things that I typically loved like my favorite protein powders and instant coffee made me want to vomit for some reason, as did most things that I tried to eat, errr swallow. And so I ended up losing 20 pounds during the first 2 weeks of my recovery. Blending sugary children's breakfast cereals with vanilla flavored Premier Protein shakes + heaping tablespoons of peanut butter and generous squirts of maple syrup and then putting it in a large condiment bottle to swallow like a snake allowed me to put on 25 pounds in 4 weeks)

      (cont.)

      extra towels (you're going to drool over every single inch of your house and get food, water, blood, and liquid medicines all over yourself and your furniture), a small bell with a handle to shake if you have a health emergency (you can't talk for at least a week), the "Big" app on iOS since it makes it easier to communicate with people via large text, you can also go into the Accessibility part of your iPhone and turn on the text to speech option (I forget how - so Google it), MAYBE a wedge pillow (I only used mine for a week, and so you can probably get away with just using extra pillows), a water flosser (on the weakest setting), pipe cleaners to brush your teeth as best you can (insanely difficult and annoying), a handheld mirror so you can see what you're doing as you try to eat and drink, a wide plastic tub to eat and drink over because you're going to drool A LOT, some saline nasal sprays (absolute lifesavers. You can use the saline ones as much as you want. The more powerful Afrin spray that they'll probably tell you about should only be used like twice a day for 3 days. Just make sure that you use them correctly by snorting the spray deep into your nostrils, or else it won't work and you'll have to go to the emergency room like me), mmm, I can't really think of anything else off of the top of my head.

      (cont.)

      But, yeah - the recovery sucks more dick than you can ever possibly imagine. Almost everyone tells you that the first week especially is absolute Hell on Earth, but nothing can prepare you for actually going through with it. Your energy levels will be rock bottom from the healing and lack of normal food, you'll feel nauseous from eating blended slop, you'll be bored out of your mind (and so make sure to have something ready to go like shows or whatever while recovering. I was too weak to even play video games to be honest), you'll become obsessed with eating normal food again, your mouth will reek and feel absolutely disgusting because you can't brush your teeth properly, et cetera.

      (cont.)

      Kek! You seeing this shit, OP? I hope you've made up your mind at this point. Haha!

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >charli d'amelio is finally 19
    wont be long before the nudes get leaked and the porn tapes come out. all the money and fame in the world cant fix teenage stupidity

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some stuff was leaked years back but it's obviously hard to find now and not okay to have

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of these double jaw surgery pics are incredible, id say its worth it

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had double jaw surgery in December. The week immediately afterwards I lost 10 pounds and struggled daily to eat, sleep, and breath. No speaking for three weeks. I still have odd sensory issues on the right side of my jaw. It was 10 weeks total before I got back to the gym.

    Honestly though? Best decision of my life. My teeth got together correctly got the first time. My face looks better.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do it only if you're a complete chinlet/jawcel.

    >t. dentalgay

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      when i was a child and getting onto the internet for the first time(back when BBS forums were still popular and MSN was still a thing) i saw a dude cum all over a girls braces.

      ever since then ive had a fetish about girls with braces, if you can even call it a fetish

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're a prime candidate for dying a virgin

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jaw Surgery.
    for what

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had severe underbite because my bottom jaw was protruding quite a bit.

    My orthodontist decided to put me on rubber bands to pull my entire chin backwards. After 2 years of constant rubber band wearing for 12+ hours per day (and often 20+ hours per day), my entire chin is normal now and the underbite has been fixed.

    She said I have the best results she's ever seen and apparently it's just a matter of that I actually wore the damn rubber bands for the proper hours every single day.

    Basically what I'm saying boys is don't get a $200,000 surgery if $5000 braces plus rubber bands can fix your shit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you have this done when you were under 21? Because from what I've read, you're basically screwed if you have jaw misalignments after 21 because that's when your bones stop growing. It's only when you're a kid that you can move the jaws around like you did because that's when the bones are still malleable.

      I also looked into devices that claim to safely move your jaws around, even after you're an adult, but I'm glad I didn't go down that route after seeing horror stories like this.

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/agga-dental-device-lawsuits-teeth-damage/

      Basically, these devices just shove your teeth around rather than changing the jaw bone. And so these poor people had their teeth shoved out of their gums.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Survey always carries a risk of a nicked nerve that will put you in opioids or other pain meds for life, doc’s severely underplay this and always sell you the optimistic outlook, it’s not worth m8 my SO cousin jaw was fricked up and it went back to underbite anyway. They will try to shill the “new technology” bullshit but do your own research and find out how many delicate nerves are in that area. If it’s cosmetic it’s not worth it m8 surgery it’s too invasive.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much true tbh. But... mmm... I still think it's worth the risk for most people. Just be aware that, yes, it can go bad and you might have lifelong side effects that will completely destroy your quality of life.

      And you also might not like the results. There was one girl I saw on YouTube whose mouth got shifted to the left of her face, and so she looked hella weird. And worse, the surgeon denied how fricked up she looked and tried to convince her that she looked beautiful now. Some people in the comments said that her mouth just looked weird because the muscles and nerves were still healing, but I dunno.

      And here's a Canadian chick who had a pretty bad relapse after 7 years and needed a revision.

      Scary stuff. These vids almost made me back out of my surgery.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you have an underbite and want it for cosmetic purposes it’s not worth the risk imo, having an underbite can range from not noticeable to actually adding a positive feature.
        >muh clicking
        It’s just not worth the risk unless you have life altering injuries to begin with that affect you ability to chew
        >bruxism and my jaw is fricked up but specialist refuse to acknowledge because they know frick all, I’d never get anyone touch my jaw a lot of things can and do go wrong they just never tell you the horror stories

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Uh, did you see my pic? It was definitely noticeable. And so was the other woman's before and after pic that someone posted on here. My jaw issues were pretty much identical to hers.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mine told me to cope that some US sarges prefer to have a protruding jaw because it gives authority or whatever? I still have fricked teeth today.

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