>Natty
>Don't fast
>Don't do keto or other meme diets
>Eat tons of "estrogenic" foods
All of ISTs broscience bullshit is a waste of time and money. Pic rel was my blood test results from last week.
>Natty. >Don't fast. >Don't do keto or other meme diets. >Eat tons of "estrogenic" foods
Do you roid?
No, I'm natty
Onions, occasionally beer, tofu
b8
This is what I do. I eat a variety of little to no highly processed foods, and just do CICO.
What is your cardio?
Also your BF%. As we all know, fat literally turns testosterone into estrogen. So your BF must be decently low.
17-22%
type 1 beetus?
Yes. Good eye.
Wtf?
Look at the patch on his right arm in the mirror. Near his waist in the reflection.
seems like evidence that serum T levels don't necessarily mean anything
I said in another post I've been lifting for a year inconsistently. for at least half of that year I was eating shit processed foods. Gains are suboptimal but with consistency and eating a lot less shit food I hope to see better gainz.
I walk around 1-2 miles 4 days a week due to job so hopefully I'm good there. I mainly just want to maximize heart health.
I get blood work every 3 months. Until I see any negative changes, I'm gonna continue eating soi and vaping.
The one thing I do really well is sleeping on a consistent timeframe and getting 6-7 hours a night minimum. Maybe that's helped quite a bit.
thank you for reminding me to stay away from the onions and cut back on the beer. it really seems to make a difference
>Until I see any negative changes, I'm gonna continue eating soi and vaping.
You're never gonna make it.
I mog you in both physique and test levels
lmao you have fucking diabeetus stfu genetic reject
you aint natty either you inject exogenous insulin daily, being natty would literally kill you lmao fucking retard
None, I just lift. I do need to change that honestly.
no you dont, endurance cardio is stressful enough that it lowers testosterone by increasing cortisol
it puts you into ketosis by draining your glycogen stores so that your body is forced to burn whatever it can for energy and it prefers to burn amino acids/protein (mainly from muscle)
so you can imagine this is counter productive for gains but also its very rough on the kidneys bc burning amino acids creates ammonia, which the kidneys have to filter from the blood
marathon runners create so much ammonia from this process that at the end of a marathon, 90% of runners are suffering from acute kidney failure (which they recover from, but kidney failure is horrible no matter how you spin it)
so dont do intense cardio for any period that can be categorised as "endurance"
walking is the perfect intensity and walking an hour a day is really all a man needs
short duration cardio is also okay, like sprints or interval rowing, but again, it shouldnt be stressful and you shouldnt drain your glycogen and shouldnt be relying on lactic acid fermentation
>b8
what booster are you on
idk who told you to eat soi retard
brotip: $0`/ is actually an estrogenic antagonist, meaning that it stops the action of estrogen. Retards here stopped at the word 'estrogen' and declared their work done.
This. Phytoestrogens are weaker than endogenous estrogen, which it blocks from reaching the receptors. They are natural SERMs.
>and just do CICO
All the memes here are supposed to help you with achieving the Zen state of CICO. Any road that leads to CICO is proper and sufficient, chances are you are laid back, and your parents had given you a solid foundation, thats plenty enough already
>>Eat tons of "estrogenic" foods
such as?
$0 y I'm guessing.
What's your secret champ
how many times do we have to tell you that medical tests are all shams.
I think you’re misunderstanding something. Fasting and keto/carnivore kill your test. Eating a normal diet with fairly high carbohydrates and exercising a bit is how you get high test.
Cool, yet in reality it's the exact opposite. Your opinion is still valid, just like your pretend gender, soijak, I mean, soijill.
>$0`/
The state of this board
Thats why vegans have higher test than meat eaters right
What do you look like? All that T won't do anything if it has nothing to bind to.
Nvm, I hope you are only 6 months trained or else that T is doing nothing for you.
I'm a year in, but I skip workouts a lot and I have been very inconsistent. I decided a month ago I was gonna start taking lifting seriously and haven't missed since though, hopefully the next 6 months will show better progress. I'll post results in /CBT/ when its time.
I also forgot to mention I smoke weed, another apparently "test dropping" substance according to ISTfags
>smoke weed
does this effect your blood sugar? have always been curious
No, unless I lose discipline and succumb to munchies. It does briefly drop my blood pressure though.
weed and soi dropping test are not memes and youd be even better off without them
weed is well documented to cause gyno in some people and it does so by counteracting progesterone, which in turn increases estrogen signalling
just bc youre "good enough" for now doesnt mean you wont become more sensitive to these in the future
I've lived a sedentary lifestyle, never worked out or did any sports, was essentially bouncing between skinnyfat and chubbyfat all my life, ate nothing but garbage poor people processed food and my testosterone was ~800ng/dL at age 25 around 3 years ago (I even intentionally didn't sleep and jacked off like 4 times before the test because I was hoping that my t would be extremely low and I could get a prescription)
T levels are almost purely genetic
Seems to be that way. I am in no way at peak physical health, but my T levels are still high.
Also I used to be severely deficient in vitamin D, this is before and after I started daily multivitamin supplements
What are the other meme diets?
Carnivore
Vegan
Paleo
Basically any diet that requires you to eliminate an entire food group and/or macronutrient.
anything with a name is a meme, easy filter
the no-proper-noun diet? Catchy
>Eat healthy
>workout for ten years
>Bad sleep and work nightshift for a year
>350 ng/dl
An estrogen is just a description of a predominate molecular structure, like an alkaloid or a ketone or a benzine ring. Not everything that is an estrogen is related to sexual dimorphism. That said, be well aware of what you are putting into your body.
Important truths that most of this board will mock or ignore.
im not trusting anons with chud looking anime picrels
It's hard for people to break with their insecurities
so just enjoy watching them document their failures and frustration.
Based actual health and fitness enjoyer. How old are you?
29
Nice! I'm only 770, but I'm also 38 so I'm happy with that
do you jack off a lot?
Once every 2 days
i dont know my t levels and im afraid to do so
I got a 900 months ago and it was while I was hardly working out and sedentary most the day, tho I ate relatively healthy I was drinking 3 beers a night
24 6'0 dyel natty. Its basically genetic. If I got all my shit dialed in I bet I'd go over 1000
well what's your secret
I eat a lot of fruits and veggies, and unprocessed meats. I sleep 6-7 hours a night at the same time every night, and I have a low stress job. Testosterone levels can be helped by lifestyle factors but a big portion is unfortunately genetic.
>ng(mi)/d(ye)L
Interesting.
total test is meaningless without shbg and free test