Natty or roided?

He pretends to be natty but no one believes it.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you really hard for a year, this body is to be expected.
    Not very impressive imho

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      6 months natty with a good program. 2 months on roids.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        6 is a safe estimate but easily doable in 5, if you're really consistent 4. And ya around 2 months with roids.

        [...]
        Are you kidding me?

        what do you think retard

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you really hard for a year, this body is to be expected.
        Not very impressive imho

        4 weeks bodyweight and meditation

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok name the program

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SS

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      6 months natty with a good program. 2 months on roids.

      Are you kidding me?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're messing with you
        He's roiding

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you so sure about that?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Once you've seen enough of these pics, it becomes pretty clear, you get a feeling for that stuff

            But in general, he's just too big to have clearly defined abs, and those boulder delts are sus as fuck
            His legs are also rather small for someone with this kind of mass in the upper body, it's possible he's been skipping leg day but rather unlikely

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, this pic kind of disproves my last point, his legs are pretty big after all
                But still, I'd say there's an 80% chance he's juicing, barring god-tier genetics (which most gymcels don't have, otherwise they'd be competing) you don't get this veiny and have defined abs while being this big

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure I got it, you say there's an 80% chance he's roiding and a 20% chance he's just blessed by God in terms of genetics?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit is he carved out of marble?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's carved out of steroids.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and if he went on stage they'd put a moron than on him. bodybuilding is dead

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He already participated in some powerlifting contests.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I got legs bigger than that after 3 months of cycling. Natty for sure.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, check out these deltoids, fucking a.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are those the worst leg insertions I've ever seen?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nobody cares about legs, neck it gay.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tiny delts, he needs to do SS + GOMAD

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol nobody noticed that small gyno on the left pectoral
                But yeah defenitly not on gear

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How can you roid this fucking hard and have such shitty traps?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would err on the side of roided but it's possible he's a genetically gifted natty

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Achievable natty?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is what happens if you eat 2 multivitamins instead of just 1

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hmm...

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                technically these are just myostatin deficient cows, no growth hormone

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Certain muscles have more androgen receptors than others and therefore will develop more in relation to others. His delts are OBSCENE in relation to other areas of his body, almost comical.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              "His arguments are

              "Except for my shoulders which have always looked like this, I've never had full pecs, never had high pecs, never had upper trapezius, even my middle/inf trapezius are not gigantically developed compared to my backs, and yet I'm talking about the places that are supposed to skyrocket when you're on roids"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have to be a massive retard to think this is natty

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You know how image classifiers work? You show the neural net a thousand images and it learns to tell whether it's picture of a cat or a dog, with 99+% accuracy. But can anybody explain step by step how you tell a cat from a dog?

            Same thing here. He doesn't "look" natty so I'm 99.9999% confident he isn't, simple as. It would be very hard to come up with a checklist of features to look out for that always applies in every situation but your brain is good at this kind of massively parallel computation, checking a thousand parameters at once.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I get what you're saying but the annoying part is this essentially just boils down to "trust me bro I know."

              And I agree, we do know. But whenever you try to explain this to someone who doesn't understand fitness they just think you're a jealous nogains loser who thinks everyone is on steroids. And to be fair I am a nogains loser who thinks everyone is on steroids. But also everyone ACTUALLY is on steroids.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He’s too full while lean. That’s all there is to it. Lean naturals deflate. Guy looks 210+ lb at 10% bf got Christ’s sake. Naturals lose abs at 190 lb.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not whoever you were replying to but this post reminds of chicks who, when I meet them at first I like them but after talking for more than 5 minutes with them I start to hate their mannerisms

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I looked like that after 3 months of SS. If you think this physique requires roids you obviously don't put in the necessary work at the gym, so apply yourself

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So everyone can achieve that body, is that what you're saying?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you kidding me?
        They probably are but plenty of anons are dumb as brick so its hard to be sure; there might be some posters who are fat fucks or look anorexic but think they look like OPs pic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      100% roids

      6 months natty with a good program. 2 months on roids.

      You're actually retarded.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're trolling

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post physique fat fuck of a cunt

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >creatine + whey powder
    Not roided but still not natty

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mixing creatine and whey powder
      heh enjoy your heart attack roidchud

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rather natty. But you never know.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's achievable for a short person

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like this body
    Need to find a way to lose lower belly fat so it's only skin left but the less I eat the fatter I get for some fucking reason.
    Have been eating tuna and salad for the last 4 days. Wtf is going on????

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >those delts
    >natty
    Sure.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Possible natty if you're 5'4

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's 174cm

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Delusional.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mirin gyno

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's 174 cm 90kg, he's been lifting for about 4 years, sure he has good genetics but the question remains...

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Roids, no question.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And then you see this roided freak IRL and he's a manlet with weird skin looking 10 years older than he actually is. Never do roids bros.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a year of actual training and u can expect to look like this

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: he looks better than me so he must be roiding!!

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter either way. He'd still fall to the ol' dick twist.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I looked like this before even lifting. Just a few push-ups and pull-ups. Def natty

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just go on ss+nofap+nopoo+cold water+noshampoo+nogf
    4 months if you keep it up

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you answer without trolling? Is it too difficult for you?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro. He’s on roids. That’s why they’re trolling you, because it’s very obvious. There are a few people in the world who can achieve this naturally with perfect lifting and diet, and some do, but 99.8% chance he is not one of them.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >chose big and natty
      why dont girls like big and natty?

    • 4 weeks ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      now realize theres junior competitors who nobody knows that looked 3 times better than that youtube fag NATTY
      you obviously post bad examples intentionally to demoralize people into thinking youve got to look like shit if youre natty

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    meyourn t'es cramax

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's 2022, if you have to ask, they're not natural.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who is hE?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some random guy in the French equivalent of IST

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        link?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's called Jeuxvideo.com, the "Musculation & Nutrition" section

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pourquoi tu lui as dit ?! À cause de toi il va trouver des photos de Meymey pour se lébran sur lui

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can see the pin marks on his delts
    >is this natty
    >FFMI is likely in the low 30s

    The absolute state of IST.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone could look like him if they trained really hard for 3 weeks on keto

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly it depends. Is it achievable for a shorter person which is working out in the right way for a long time and has great genetics? Yes.
    Is it realistic for your average person to look like that after a year of lifting? No. So honestly even if its absolutely possible i would doubt it unless you know the person good enough.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you retarded?

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is just what you get if you do a few pushups a day and eat less

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    huh, what are the odds. Dozens of posters easily claiming this body is achievable "natural" yet not one single natural in this thread posts their own similar physique as proof. Very peculiar

    or fucking desperate and pathetic as fuck. You will never look anywhere close to that, even after autistically training/dieting for 20 years natural cuck gays

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    week 1 on creatine

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