New Harvard study found relationships are the single most important factor for health, even moreso than diet and exercise.

New Harvard study found relationships are the single most important factor for health, even moreso than diet and exercise.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care, still lifting

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >have bulletproof immune system
      >am autistic friendless hermit content in my low-contact wagie job
      Shartvard not as smart as they think they are, as usual

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >get a pet
    >make all the gains without the bullshit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get pet
      >bond with it
      >pet dies
      >repeat
      "owning" pets for emotional support is the most fucked thing ever normalized

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who gives a shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Get tortoise
        >Bond with it
        >Die
        >Tortoise doesn't GAF cause he doesn't have complex emotions
        >Moves on (slowly) and lives the other 4/5 of his life happily in a zoo

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God that sounds fucking based.
          Don't tortoise bites really hurt? or is that only snapping turtles
          i assume theyd be pretty low maintenance

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >get a dog or cat
        >10-15 years of support and companionship, 15-20 for the cat
        >up to 6 months of grieving when it dies
        Don't get me wrong you still miss the pet longer than 6 months but that's my personal mark for where I hit the "don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened" point. I'll be devastated when my cat dies, but I'll be able to move on in a healty way and enjoy the memories I have of her. Well worth it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I got another dog before I was done grieving because I also felt so empty. We are best buds now but there was a lot of unfairness for him early on. I’m thinking of getting another dog soon so I won’t be in a similar situation again should I have to put him down.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>up to 6 months of grieving when it dies
          its been 6 years and i am still grieving, but that may be because of the way things went

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is hard bro. I still miss my lab. I love my new dog but they are night and day personality wise. As gay as it sounds I understand how love differs because of the experience. There is no replacement for a loss like that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've noticed a lot of literal boomers do this and then rename their next pet the exact same name. I know this 75 yr old woman that is on her 4th dog named "Tippy". Sometimes they get the exact same looking dog and name it the same too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get a turtle or something.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get a long lasting pet, birds live like 40+ years

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can't have loving intercourse with a bird.

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based OP circumventing the paywall

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      archive dot ph

      Works for pretty much anything behind a paywall.

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    Anonymous
  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn’t want to make it past 50 anyways

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >loneliness is twice as unhealthy as obesity

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw obese and lonely
        It's ogre

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Invest in what matters guys. Stop lifting and dieting and go out and get a gf.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have to lift and diet to become attractive enough for one, sorry mate

      >inb4 just be yourself just try its your personality
      Tried all that, didnt work, looksmaxxing is the only way to prevent more ghosting and rejection in the dating game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. Feminism has made women purely materialistic beasts. They say men only want sex, well they only want men as an accessory like a yappy dog in their purse.
        >Put em in their place
        They have long managed to manipulate the law to their benefit. Pandora’s Box is open, the only way you shut it is a global catastrophe. The days of a loving relationship are long gone.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like you have business calling other people beasts

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sure do, women are subhuman and when left unchecked are the cause of the worlds suffering.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the cause of the worlds suffering
              Pretty sure that's deadbeat dads. If fathers didn't walk out on their kids then most of society's problems would disappear.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Another sore roastie who won’t own the consequences of her actions.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At least single mothers actually raise their children.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In order of operations studies found
                >Parents married
                >Single dad
                >grandparent raised
                >gay dads
                >single mon
                >lesbians
                Women are the worst way to raise someone to be an adult.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >[citation needed]

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Since you are a fan of his catch phrase. I can dig more but we all know you won’t listen to a man anyway so enjoy ruining your kids lives just like you ruined yours.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >55:08
                gtfo LMAO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As expected, single mom won’t do any work to better herself or her family. Have you opened your only fans yet? Make sure your children are bullied properly for having a whore for a mother now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bro I'm on IST. You're retarded if you think a woman is posting here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sure type like a woman. How long have you been on hrt?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                literally obsessed with chuds LMAO kys degenerate

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m just saying estrogen drips from your every word. You are very womanly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ok

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound like a bitch, even when you attemp irony. Stop and evaluate yourself bitch ass moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek. good work

                As expected, single mom won’t do any work to better herself or her family. Have you opened your only fans yet? Make sure your children are bullied properly for having a whore for a mother now.

                thank god I was raised by my father. my crazy ass bitch mother will die alone. the one sibling that went to go get raised by her turned out a fat incel living out of her basement. The modern woman is worse than the blackest moron.
                >inb4 samefag accusation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Man creates society
                >Man in charge of society since inception
                >Man never allow woman to have say in running said society
                > it is woman who won’t own the consequences of their actions.
                I’m starting to get why they may be a little upset m’kay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >women are the majority of the voter base in every first world country
                >women select what genes will be recreated

                Women literally run the modern world anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Deadbeat dads are created by women, so that still comes back to women.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Another sore moid who won’t own the consequences of his actions.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not an argument.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's right, you didn't offer an argument, thereby conceding to mine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I did actually. You pointed out your refusal to accept responsibility. Typical LVM behavior.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I pointed out women's refusal to accept responsibility for the men they choose to sleep with. Do you have some counter-argument to that or no?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All men are trash as demonstrated by the fact that 90% of them masturbate to degenerate porn. Therefore, it doesn't matter who the woman chooses because the outcome will be the same.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >criticizing men on IST and acknowledging the fact that as a society men are just as bad as women instead of just completely destroying all women and saying men are infallible
                oh no no no

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Butt blasted roastie who has 4 kids with 4 different daddies is mad at all men. Too late now honey, should have closed your legs earlier. At least you “had your fun”, right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay then it's women's responsibility not to fuck anything but the 10% whoa are quality, or keep their legs shut.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. Feminism has made women purely materialistic beasts. They say men only want sex, well they only want men as an accessory like a yappy dog in their purse.
        >Put em in their place
        They have long managed to manipulate the law to their benefit. Pandora’s Box is open, the only way you shut it is a global catastrophe. The days of a loving relationship are long gone.

        >only way to prevent more ghosting and rejection in the dating game

        you have to be exceptionally retarded to think that dating apps are the prime indicator of "the dating game". it's not about courting even if these companies say so, it's a validation marketplace, so there is absolutely no surprise the way they market it to you and the way both men/women act on the platforms. even in dating apps if you take care of yourself and understand the rules of the game (be concise, funny but not a simp, leave room for romantic narrative development, e.g. be mysterious, etc) you can easily get away with dates with hardly any muscle and 5/10 face, average height.

        long term relationships can't be based off of vapid appearances, relationships are ultimately a lifestyle and an action of giving and receiving bla bla bla. relationships succeed more when you don't have to think of it that much and it's just integrated in the way you live, it's no different than getting good at being a carpenter, hitting the gym, or learning a new skill/habit, so maybe practice something for once in your life with that mindset before thinking about a relationship

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t use apps, this is my day to day existence. After a couple hundred failures you just know it isn’t worth the effort. The relationships I have been in are fine as long as they center on her. You can have one or two “pet” hobbies but if you get too out of line it spells doom. Hell changing jobs for a better salary ended one relationship. Women have the power and their script. The only thing they won’t do is approach because their princess ego can’t handle it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He didn't even say anything about dating apps.
          >long term relationships can't be based off of vapid appearances
          Sure they can, you have to get your foot in the door somehow. I gurantee that the relationships of nearly models or attractive men in general began with the woman thinking "he's hot", even the long lasting ones.

          Got married at 21. I'm now 27. Getting married early was the best decision I ever made.

          Why

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Apps and cold approaching are the only place where ghosting actively occurs because of competition from superficial aspects... unless you're just being clingy all the time and feed into the whole snapchat bullshit. No one is arguing that looking good helps you but there's so many people who look good, if you compete in that market you're just changing the battle you have to fight; meanwhile there are people who are fat or ugly or poor and they still get relationships. Superficial aspects matter but pretty much every girl bases their attraction on their feelings based on her place in the romantic narrative, she likes the feeling of smiling while texting all the time, gossiping with girls about what you did for her or where you two went last week... shit like that, being hot is one of a million ways you can get attention towards yourself, obviously if you don't interact with women verbally there's less you can do.

            I don’t use apps, this is my day to day existence. After a couple hundred failures you just know it isn’t worth the effort. The relationships I have been in are fine as long as they center on her. You can have one or two “pet” hobbies but if you get too out of line it spells doom. Hell changing jobs for a better salary ended one relationship. Women have the power and their script. The only thing they won’t do is approach because their princess ego can’t handle it.

            1. You have just as much power as the other person to end any relationship, unless you create the mentality that you need the relationship somehow more than the other person, which you should probably critically evaluate. You can always be the one to say "we're in different places, I am making the choice to end it", the best way to make that power egalitarian is to communicate about your feelings and understand how the other person feels rather than thinking it's some fairy tale transactional relationship. Not saying there's not problems with current dating sphere, like all the social media integration, but it's less related to gender inequities than you think, I don't think it's the root of the problem.
            2. My point is that the hobbies you do are because you get fulfillment out of it not for some extraneous reason. It is part of your identity because you enjoy it. That's the same way you should approach love, it's not just some thing you have or are in, it's an action of giving and receiving that you legit enjoy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The big issue is that apps and cold approach are really the only avenues men have now to get women. Let's be real, most men, especially the ones here, aren't socializing with attractive women normally and have no opportunities to. I'd agree with you that apps and cold approach are the worst ways to approach dating because they create superficial environments, but there really is no alternative nowadays. You can either looksmaxx and grind out bumble for some pussy or literally go for months without having a genuine conversation with a women. We are just so disconnected and even average women can succeed on dating apps, so there really are no opportunities for "warm" connections. Which fucking sucks to say the least.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This, generally.

                I would love to find some way to be around attractive quality girls regularly to build familiarity and attraction, but I'm not in university anymore and that's pretty much the last time in your life you're going to. Basically the only place to do so is the gym after that point, but I've got a home gym setup and don't feel like buying the gym membership just to meet girls. However, maybe I should.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dont do it at the gym unless you are very attractive. Very easy way to get kicked out or vilified online and even on fucking cable news. All it takes is one girl to not be into you and she can claim you were being creepy and get you fucked. Nothing wrong with using dating apps and cold approach in public, just don't expect them to be top notch long term material. Those days are long gone for a most of us.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's because you need to actually establish signals she thinks you're hot. Never approach a girl you haven't made lasting eye contact with and exchanged a smile.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think this is good advice for touch situations like a gym, but I've seen plenty dudes hit on girls he got no signals from and it worked out. I don't think signals are anything more than an assurance that its going to work out, not necessarily a requirement. Hell, sometimes they just don't even notice you until you actually go up to them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I've seen plenty dudes hit on girls he got no signals from and it worked out
                Yeah but I'm talking about if you don't want to end up kicked out of your gym or going viral on TikTok. It only takes one.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is why i specified that signals are good to watch if you are in a situation like that. But if im heading to the mall im not gonna get kicked out by some roastie who thinks shes too good to be approached, so i dont really watch for it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True but then the difficulty approaching girls in public/the mall/hitting on waitresses/etc is you don't know how old they are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is why you dont make is explicitly sexual. just chat her up and ask for a number. You can ask for that shit later and get it on text as physical evidence she lied.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >physical evidence she lied
                The minor lying isn't a defense in court in any legal system I know of. I know it isn't in Canada and I don't know the specifics of every single state but I understand it's also not in most of them I've heard of. In some places just having digital contact with an underage person and then meeting up or giving a judge the impression you planned to meet up is considered "child luring" or an equivalent charge and carries both prison time and sex offender registry. Age of consent is irrelevant to this usually as well.

                At best you get a number/Snap that is a gigantic liability to you and at worst you get some girl saying, "Uh I'm only [age]..." to you in public in front of people which is going to look bad for you and very well may get you ejected.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well the age of consent in my state is 16. I usually only go for women that I can guarantee are above this. It's definitely fucking hard to tell nowadays but idgaf.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well the age of consent in my state is 16
                Same, but as I said, in every place I know of the law for child luring or equivalent charges is defined as "under 18" specifically which is what turns digital communication into a massive landmine.

                Dating apps are not immune to this either. There are tons of minors who jump on tinder faking their age you need to watch out for.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did both - I hate her. I was happier before. All she really confirmed is that I deserve a lot more and I'm ultimately my worst critic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >▶Stop lifting and dieting and go out and get a gf
      jesus I hate you either/or fags. these two actions are not mutually exclusive retard. I can do both.
      Matter of fact being fit helps with attracting a partner, retard...Just stop with your garden gnome ''two truths and a lie'' shill shit. Muddying the waters, just like your ancestors did I see. Disgusting behavior.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It never began

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol, fuck you and your gnomish trucks. I am going to hermitmaxx and there is nothing you can do to stop me. I will never speak to other people unless absolutely necessary.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes, another questionnaire epidemiological survey. Surely old people can remember their entire lifetimes!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was an 85 year long study that tracked them throughout their life that was recently completed. The single biggest predictor of someone living to 80 years old was how satisfied they were in their relationships at 50x

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want to get in a relationship out of the fear that it will end in divorce
    I cannot think of a worse position to be in than being newly single in your mid 30s/early 40s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No different than staying consistently single your whole life, just as invisible.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >relationships are the single most important factor for health
    cool...how is this information going to help me get one exactly ?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s a double edged sword.

    What happens when the relationship ends?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do another one

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I lift to get a cute gf for a healthy personal connection.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >grandparent dies
    >the other dies shortly after

    Makes sense I guess

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s because they lost their purpose. Old people who have been together for 50 years barely even like each other.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if the relationship is toxic? Still better for health?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, even if they hate each other if they are codependent they will live to bicker another day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How did you come to that conclusion?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My grandparents. Grandpa was in a bad way and had to be moved to an assisted living, not being able to fight every day caused a steep decline in both. My grandma died 8 months later and he died 11 days after her. When they were together they fought like cats and dogs, it was either shouting or complete silence. They both were depressed without the other even though they couldn’t stand them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They sound dumb

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              All couples hate each other. Just the old generation didn’t divorce.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Had same Q. Does study indicate when it’s time to bail out.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't doubt that, but also all these studies are done on boomers and fucking WW2 vets.
    Nothing against them, but they got to live in a different world. A world where a relationship or marriage implied some type of commitment. A world where people weren't actively discouraged away from fidelity by cultural norms.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which is a great basis to co trash modern courting etiquette. We are already seeing the real time effects of what life is like with all woman behaving like whores. We win as men in short term pleasures. Long term gratification is almost unknown unless the girl you find is so agaisnt behaving like every whore out there who thinks she’s different or special when their average to obese.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Indeed they are.
    My relationship with God is unbreakable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i don't have a real relationship with anyone so i have to make one up with an invisible friend
      lel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're technically right about the invisible bit. God is immaterial, therefore invisible.
        But asserting anon is making up that he's friends with God is overly assuming.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No it is not. Most of these people are LARPers, hypocrites,and cult members . One of the core tenants of Christianity is for a man is to have a family and to provide for that family.

          Indeed they are.
          My relationship with God is unbreakable.

          Is a cowardly manchild who cannot confront the difficulties of the world so he deludes himself with religion and uses it as an excuse for his degenerate behavior.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Core tenants
            1 Corinthians 7:

            >1Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6I say this as a concession, not as a command.
            >7I wish that all of you were as I am.
            Paul suggests it is better to be a volcel and having a family distracts from the work of God. He just says that if you are too horny then you should get married. However while this is suggestion, women needing to be silent is mandatory.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              An atheist that has a family and is bearing the difficulties of this world for his wife and kids will always be closer to god than you will ever be.

              I am glad people like you arent reproducing and women are right to reject you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn’t say I wasn’t married, just that you have no idea what you are talking about.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The verse you quoted involves a married man you retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are a dumb moron who can’t read can you? Paul clearly says I would rather people be like me and not marry but if they need sex make sure they get married. Fucking retard, have a nice day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok fine whatever. Ill move the goal post. You do understand why these verses exist right? There is a theory that low caste beta males were forced to become monks so that they dont ER. These verses were just made up for them to cope with there miserable existence.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                An illiterate atheist serves no purpose. You need to check my digits in that earlier post and follow their command.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >An illiterate atheist serves no purpose.
                There genes will live on why you will be maggot food.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have kids you retard, have a nice day already. Your kids will clearly benefit from it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I have kids you retard
                That's a shame. You should have been like Paul.

                >have a nice day already
                Not going anywhere bud.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Got you so shook you had to (You) me twice in the same post?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean you were the one that responded in a couple minutes to me in an earlier post. What do you just sit there a press the refresh button.

                You dont have kids or a family do you.

                You are a dumb moron who can’t read can you? Paul clearly says I would rather people be like me and not marry but if they need sex make sure they get married. Fucking retard, have a nice day.

                >Paul clearly says I would rather people be like me and not marry
                Yeah you dont.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the guy you're talking to, but you must be either retarded or an ESL fag. This entire situation is caused and perpetuated by the fact that you DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH. Just stop, holy crap. Read a book.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dont care. My point still stands. One shouldnt use religious text to make excuses for there own shitty behavior. If you are alone you should still strive to find a partner and have kids.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ching chong ding dong have a nice day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not very christlike of you. I have heard enough from you. Stfu you fucking midwit.

                Based
                [...]
                >Haha I'm going to get away Scott free with all of my crimes
                And atheists say we're the ones coping lel
                and uses it as an excuse for his degenerate behavior
                >As societies turn their backs to God they sure do it get less degenerate
                You're completely retarded

                I made non of those arguments you brain dead retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >An atheist that has a family and is bearing the difficulties of this world for his wife and kids will always be closer to god than you will ever be.
                No they won't, Caananites all had families, so did Midnianites, none of them were close to God. Infact they were so far God had them eradicated, and the virgins kept. I don't know where you read that, but I'd like a verse.
                >No it is not. Most of these people are LARPers, hypocrites,and cult members . One of the core tenants of Christianity is for a man is to have a family and to provide for that family.
                That's not a core tenant, being celibate is a thing. Jesus was celibate, and he was the standard for all of man.
                >Having a family, supporting them, and protecting them is a critical aspect of Christianity that they ignore
                It isn't.
                >Even if you fail to do so, and when one day will stand before God for judgement, you can say to him "I tried"
                So Jesus is going to hell by your logic?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok fine whatever. Ill move the goal post. You do understand why these verses exist right? There is a theory that low caste beta males were forced to become monks so that they dont ER. These verses were just made up for them to cope with there miserable existence.

                I thought I was being clear but sure. I'll try to be more clear. My comments were aimed at people that were using Christianity as a excuse for not striving to have a family. These people are not Christians but cult members, hypocrites, and LARPers. They will simply cherry pick parts of the Bible then twist it to make excuses for their own shortcomings. Having a family, supporting them, and protecting them is a critical aspect of Christianity that they ignore. Just read St Thomas Aquinas' views on the family. Use the Lord's words to overcome the challenges of this world, don't use it to make excuses for your own failures. Finding a wife is hard. Getting a good job in this shit economy and providing for your family is hard. But it is what God wants you to do and it is what you are suppose to do. Think of these difficulties as a test from God. Sure you may fail to get a good wife and a good job but you must at least try. Even if you fail to do so, and when one day will stand before God for judgement, you can say to him "I tried".

                >
                So Jesus is low caste?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I never meant that there are Bible verses that say that atheist might be closer to god than self declared Christians. My view of the Holy Trinity is that it signifies the importance of a family and the role a man has in it. I still encourage you to look into the views of the Saints such as St Thomas Aquinas on the family. I also encourage you not to turn Christianity into a glorified MGTWO movement. Otherwise you will only attract maggots like

                You don’t speak enough English to understand any others. Plus I really do want you dead.

                to the church.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I assume you don’t have access to guns. Are you gonna have a nice day or jump off a high place? If you can, try and do a flip.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not very christlike of you. I have heard enough from you. Stfu you fucking midwit.
            [...]
            I made non of those arguments you brain dead retard.

            >I made non of those arguments you brain dead retard
            Then elaborate on what you meant in the 2nd half of your post

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I thought I was being clear but sure. I'll try to be more clear. My comments were aimed at people that were using Christianity as a excuse for not striving to have a family. These people are not Christians but cult members, hypocrites, and LARPers. They will simply cherry pick parts of the Bible then twist it to make excuses for their own shortcomings. Having a family, supporting them, and protecting them is a critical aspect of Christianity that they ignore. Just read St Thomas Aquinas' views on the family. Use the Lord's words to overcome the challenges of this world, don't use it to make excuses for your own failures. Finding a wife is hard. Getting a good job in this shit economy and providing for your family is hard. But it is what God wants you to do and it is what you are suppose to do. Think of these difficulties as a test from God. Sure you may fail to get a good wife and a good job but you must at least try. Even if you fail to do so, and when one day will stand before God for judgement, you can say to him "I tried".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You still haven’t killed yourself? You should really get in that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're too stupid to come up with a new insult you impotent sped.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don’t speak enough English to understand any others. Plus I really do want you dead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God can't give you the four hugs a day minimum required for survival.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Obvious lie
        I get an average of 0,2 hugs a day (estimated) and I'm still alive.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just because you're alive doesn't mean you're surviving.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actually...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even those monks have relationships with each other and altar boys. Even they know it's impossible to make it alone.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Beyond saying prayer together, the monastic life isn't one to have relationships outside of Jesus alone.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vatican II was an unprecedented disaster and Francis is just kicking the Church while she's down.
                Prior to VII, fags weren't allowed in the clergy at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok? Not sure that's at all relevant considering today it is just one big Pachamama orgy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It certainly is relevant to know where it all went wrong.
                What papa francis does isn't really any of my concern, and contrary to popular belief, he isn't infallible. And he has proven that time and time again.
                I do think God allowed for this to all happen to wake up the faithful.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As Jesus intended.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you read the text or did you just stop at "the monk study" and mentally checked out?
            These are laypeople that were mediating, not literal monks. And it showed that people that mediated by praying the rosary saw health benefits as opposed to other laypeople that practiced newage mediation techniques who saw no benefits.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think anyone was arguing in this thread for or against meditation. This is about the impact of relationships on health.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                https://i.imgur.com/MGyWxzA.jpg

                God can't give you the four hugs a day minimum required for survival.

                Anon was arguing that having a relationship with God will not improve your health.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon was arguing that having a relationship with God will not improve your health.
                That actually isn't what I was arguing at all. Try reading the post again and comprehending what was actually said.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >God can't give you the four hugs a day minimum required for survival.
                What you said was far more damning than what I tried to summarize your point to be.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who wrote this shit? It reads like a dumb teenager's essay.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Praying the rosary is cool but i'm more impressed with how the fuck this ESL shit managed to get published in a real book

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As a doc currently in neuro this is bullshit hahaha. Meditation definitely has benefits but this is plain false.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Haven't had a hug in years and I'm still not dead

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But let's be real you aren't really alive either.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based, hugs are comfy af.
        >t.currently being hugged by my gf who is asleep

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      No it is not. Most of these people are LARPers, hypocrites,and cult members . One of the core tenants of Christianity is for a man is to have a family and to provide for that family. [...]
      Is a cowardly manchild who cannot confront the difficulties of the world so he deludes himself with religion and uses it as an excuse for his degenerate behavior.

      >Haha I'm going to get away Scott free with all of my crimes
      And atheists say we're the ones coping lel
      and uses it as an excuse for his degenerate behavior
      >As societies turn their backs to God they sure do it get less degenerate
      You're completely retarded

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Basted

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Got married at 21. I'm now 27. Getting married early was the best decision I ever made.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Double income. Sex on demand. Stable and reliable companionship every single day. Unconditional support and love. But she isn't American so that is probably why it is so good. American women are vile.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >double income the very first thing you say
        retard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same, also married at 21

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      married at 20. agreed. we should start a club

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >27
      >thinks he knows shit about fuck
      Wait til you get divorce-raped at 29

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its good until 32, then intolerable, then you get a second younger wife

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >most healthy thing to have is the most impossible thing to get

    What did God mean by this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God didn’t do it, feminism did. Satans misery always starts by “freeing” women.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God meant for you to settle down and marry shortly after reaching adulthood and starting a large family. It's not his fault that you couldn't do that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >God is supposed to possess a girl to come knock on my door and save me from myself just like in my animays
      Come on now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"it's not my fault, it's: God's, world's, everyone else's... etc."
      With this attitude, I don't even pity you anymore morons

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 30 and I wish I had a wife and kids by now.
    All the gfs I had never wanted to pursue marriage with me.
    I leave it in God's hands.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God helps those who help themselves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know.
        It's not like I'm not actively looking/pursuing. But managing to find a woman that wants to be my wife and bear my children is where I leave my faith in the Lord to guide me to her.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God doesn't exist so you are just wasting your time

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He does exist; creation begets a creator.
            I digress; how is having faith in God and following His commandments "wasting" my time? Where is my time being lost?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >creation begets a creator
              Kindergarten-tier logic. Grow up and ditch the fairy tales.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone write a guide on how to love?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    these are normies tho
    an average person doesn't really care about health and diet and exercise so yeah, they only have a single variable which is on the biological level just more optimal cortisol levels and maybe better immune system
    maybe they had a vegan or two in there or a couple of guys that did pushups, probably that's why these factors weren't as prominent

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok so I found the criteria for the study
      https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.7910/DVN/48WRX9
      they measured exercise in calories per week and it included shit like gardening and playing golf

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every time i get into a relationship by the end of the honeymoon phase bitches make me want to literally pull my hair out.

    They always want attention, you always have to worry about keeping them happy or else they ruin your life (there are hundreds of ways girls can end you with a snap of a finger), have to worry about them cheating, very expensive, etc etc. my life is 100% better without a partner thank you very much.

    I bet you money that even having a cat is more beneficial than a girlfriend. You just cant have sex with it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe a sheep instead of a cat will work?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's been a year
    >it still hurts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It will never not.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There used to be a point when I was 17-24 I'd feel so lonely I would feel physical pain in my chest and would basically drop onto the floor and stare off into space. Then I stopped caring.

    Shortly after that I met a woman and felt loved and desired (by a non-uggo) for the first time in my life. That shit ended quickly and I haven't let myself fall into another relationship despite getting more female attention than ever.

    I have a waifu but as I approach my late 20's I realize the ironic waifu was a farce and kept me from engaging in real relationships and learning.

    I know I need to go make and be with friends and go out with women but I have this negative momentum and pickiness I need to fucking destroy so I don't end up fucked up and alone and it's just so fucked to think about.

    But don't forget bros... we're ALL gonna make it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I used to get wicked cramps and chest pain when I felt extreme sadness. Anyone ever quantify that?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is all bullshit. How exactly did they quantify this? Being obese is physically unhealthy. Being lonely is not. It might wear on your mental health after a while, if you actually FEEL lonely, but it's not going to fucking kill you.
    Most "scientific" studies can't be reproduced. It's all bullshit that some dumb gays who are working on their degree publish so that they can continue their education.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      https://i.imgur.com/o01dIFB.jpg

      Loneliness is twice as unhealthy as obesity. Chronic loneliness increases a person's odds of death in any given year by 26%.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but that's not actually true at all?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >statistics aren't true because they disagree with my narrative

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you not understand how science works? You conclude this fact based on this college study? How exactly would they find anything other than a LINK from this study? Correlation does not equal causation.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The conclusion that loneliness is unhealthy in humans also follows from our basic biology/evolutionary history. Humans have always been social animals, animals outside of their preferred environment become chronically stressed (in the biological sense of the word), and chronically stressed animals have severely worsened health. Of course morbid obesity will kill you quicker than loneliness, but loneliness is a lot more common than morbid obesity (in most of the world), and thus it is more pertinent to focus on maintaining healthy relationships.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >statistics aren't true because they disagree with my narrative

        You didn't actually post any statistics, retard. What does "twice as unhealthy" mean in this context? How was the figure derived?

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good I don't wanna live long anyways

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, thats probably the biggest thing I want to start working on. I know what I need to do in the gym, I've got a plan for work, those are somewhat autopilot, I just need to get my social life together

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do 20 reps of cold approach per night for a week and you'll be suave.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i cant remember the last night ive seen 20 women id want to sleep with.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You won't sleep with them anyway that's not the point

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is absolutely 100% fact bar none. Relationships, whether they are romantic or even platonic friendships, are the single most important factor to health and a fulfilling life. People here on IST like to cope because they think that since every poster here on IST is a millionaire software engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc. that they are happy, but without a social life you will always be miserable. You aren't Ted Kaczynski where you hate people and want to live in the woods alone even though plenty of people larp like they are.

    It is commonplace to see people who are successful in every aspect of their lives outside of social life to still be miserable, but it is quite rare to see people who have a good social/romantic/family life but are lacking in many other aspects of their life to really be that miserable.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy fuck this post brought the retards out. These are the people giving you advice on IST

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love threads that show the inner thoughts of these retards lmao

      Double income. Sex on demand. Stable and reliable companionship every single day. Unconditional support and love. But she isn't American so that is probably why it is so good. American women are vile.

      >married at 20
      >double income
      Lmaoooooo

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but diet and exercise is entirely within a persons control. A relationship depends on another person.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't plan to live that long, hopefully I'll be dead way before either by my own hands or because of some war or conflict or social unrest.
    Some may think this is sad and in a sense it is, but it's also the ultimate liberation. Why would I fear consequences, why would I fear taking action? Why wouldn't I do as I wish or whatever though pops into my head from talking to a girl to buying something I want to saying fuck it and moving into the woods and ditching it all behind?
    I have the ultimate insurance of a shotgun and single buckshot shell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. will piss and shit in his pants at 8p on his deathbead

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm lucky I have all you guys then <3

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be me 30 years old
    >relatively normal socially and behaviorally as a kid until becoming a teenager late middle school/early high school when I became a complete social retard outcast loner loser
    >become pretty cynical and angry, sad, etc., which results in pushing people away from myself even more
    >results in destroying my entire life and leaving me as a 30 year old friendless incel miserable suicidal loser with no life whatsoever and no reason to live because i see no point in anything with no friends, relationships, and shit relationship with my family

    maybe i am biased but yeah i definitely believe that social relationships are the most important thing for human existence. in fact it seems like a lot of times that people can be doing really well in all other aspects of their life, but if they dont have that social aspect, they are still miserable. theres only so much your job and solo hobbies can do for you. and then you have people who may do average or even a big below average in terms of the rest of their lives, but if they have friends, a relationship/wife/husband/children, good family relationship, they will still be happy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      truth

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's over for me

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No fucking shit. There was another study a while ago saying that loneliness was as bad to a person's health as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. I fully expect I will die in my 50s one way or another, no matter how much I lift.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is literally why I go out of my way to ruin people's relationships. I literally only got aesthetic to be a homewrecker. I have ruined 5 families so far

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the most important relationship in the world is the one you have with yourself

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Bliss

    In other words, if you're undesirable, you're ironically fucked in the ass.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have I made it if I no longer desire relationships?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has on obese person made it if they no longer desire to look attractive?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Core tenants
      1 Corinthians 7:

      >1Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6I say this as a concession, not as a command.
      >7I wish that all of you were as I am.
      Paul suggests it is better to be a volcel and having a family distracts from the work of God. He just says that if you are too horny then you should get married. However while this is suggestion, women needing to be silent is mandatory.

      Congrats buddy, you are free to focus on what is important.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you are free to focus on what is important.
        >gnomish fairy tales and talking to yourself, the greatest parts of life

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Buddha also says ignore women and inherit paradise. Pretty much every religion does. Even if you are an athiest it means he can focus on lifting or undertaking some great work. He is far more likely to become a legend now. Even if that is a title like supreme gentleman.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You know that's all cope right?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Elliot Roger will be remembered long after you and I die so not sure.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So? Who gives a fuck? Certainly not Elliot since he's dead. He had a short and miserable existence. This thread is about what it takes to live a long and healthy life.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *and happy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m just saying Elliot had an impact on society and history meaning his legacy makes him immortal. My grandpa died last year and once I’m gone his legacy stops with me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Elliot roger was a scumbag just like you, and just like him, you won't amount to anything either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Elliot was a hero and the only reason you now have incel as insult is because of him. If he hadn’t been a virgin with rage incel would still be a clinical term for cat ladies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If he hadn’t been a virgin with rage
                Ffs, when will people stop spreading these lies? It’s well known by now that a creatine overdose fueled his murderous rampage.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To quote from the Odyssey Book XI (for context Odysseus visits Achilles in the underworld):
                >"Through the thick gloom his friend Achilles knew,
                >And as he speaks the tears descend in dew.
                >"'Comest thou alive to view the Stygian bounds,
                >Where the wan spectres walk eternal rounds;
                >Nor fear'st the dark and dismal waste to tread,
                >Throng'd with pale ghosts, familiar with the dead?"
                >"To whom with sighs: 'I pass these dreadful gates
                >To seek the Teban, and consult the Fates:
                >For still, distress'd, I rove from coast to coast,
                >Lost to my friends, and to my country lost.
                >But sure the eye of Time beholds no name
                >So bless'd as thine in all the rolls of fame;
                >Alive we hail'd thee with our guardian gods,
                >And dead thou rulest a king in these abodes.'
                >"'Talk not of ruling in this dolorous gloom,
                >Nor think vain words (he cried) can ease my doom.
                >Rather I'd choose laboriously to bear
                >A weight of woes, and breathe the vital air,
                >A slave to some poor hind that toils for bread,
                >Than reign the sceptred monarch of the dead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Grass is always greener. Plus we still talk about them too so they are very much still with us.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rewrites of classics to make english rhyme

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe, pleb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're right, you know more about poetry than Alexander Pope, good job

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i no longer desire relationships
      nice cope bro, whatever you want to tell yourself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man I would sure hate to cope with my problems.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do online relationships count?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is one way out of this hell and you are not going to like it

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My dad's brother, my favorite uncle, died today and in response my mom went out for coffee with her friends. I asked my mom to meet up with me to talk about it and as soon as I got there she started getting on my case about some train ticket she wants me to buy.

    Anyhow bros the relationships thing doesn't just mean "girlfriend/wife". You need male friendships too

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can confirm. I've been having a fulfilling marriage along with an electrifying affair for over 15 years. I love my SO and AP's!

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would have relationships if I could, you fucking gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The 19h amendment and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >((experts)) say
    No thanks shlomo

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im healthy as fuck and ive never had a gf or even kissed a girl. I make 250k/yr and just shitpost online and fap to hot thots to help fall asleep. I asked a bartender out last week and she said she was busy. Still tipped her $25. I have very few friends and do go to shows alone and play a shitload of hockey. No one cares

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm already dead

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do I find a woman? everything I do nowadays is at home/online - work, courses, movies, books, etc. only in person thing is the gym.
    what/where should one do?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get one from a developing country

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOO YOU MUST MARRY THE BLOWN OUT ROAST AND PRODUCE 2 CHILDREN WE CAN ZOG
    No, i dont think i will schlomo.
    Captcha:88(WDDT)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice
      >tfw met an amazing girl with an awesome family who has her shit together and let me take her virginity
      >her parents have been married for almost 30 years and we plan on getting married soon too
      Feels good brehs. Keep lifting and get a good job and you'll find yourself a good woman too. I used to be like one of these people and I can only pity them now. I'll be praying for them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Her virginity

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          she was actually born with that condition that gives you like a double walled hymen
          i literally heard and felt that shit break
          shes also a high functioning autist like myself

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Shes a virgin
            >She has a prestige 10 hymen
            >Shes autistic like me
            This bro LMAO

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm glad I'm not like you anymore. What a miserable existence.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its fine bro. I am happy for you. You wont get through to them. Let them be alone and miserable.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks, I try to spread whitepills where I can. I know deep down they know I'm right, they're just stuck in the IST crab in a bucket mindset.

                https://i.imgur.com/nRD0CCs.jpg

                Im glad some insane BDP hoe didnt convince me she had a Level 2 hymen to legally take half my assets. Tell her you want to marry but are not interested in involving the state for a marriage license and report back here in 7 days.

                She doesn't need my assets. Her family is more wealthy than mine and she makes more money than me currently (I'm an E-nothing in the military and she's a nurse so she makes about double what I make and that'll be up to 3-4x in a few years.) I would have been homeless if not for enlisting. inb4 "oh so she just wants you dependent on her so she can take advantage of you"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The pussy whipped always have a convenient story to explain away everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >pussy whipped
                I had 40 something tinder matches when I started talking to her. She was the only one who actually put effort into a conversation and we were able to talk effortlessly for hours on the first date. I genuinely love her as a person.

                [...]
                [...]
                >dude seriously see i used to be an incel type but i found a girl who had a double walled hymen who totally was a virgin before meeting me and also it just happens that we are both autistic too!
                >oh and also im in the military and she's a nurse, she's definitely not cheating on me like all whore nurses and women do while their guys are in the military! and also her family is rich!

                There are a LOT more adult female virgins out there than you'd think, especially with the prevalence of mental illness. Beautiful girls with horrible self esteem issues and shit due to social media and psyops. I am her first real boyfriend. Get your head out of your ass. You don't know either of us or our circumstances.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My autistic gf with double walled hymen and good family was excitedly chatting up strange men on tinder
                THIS bro HAHAHHHHAHAHAAHAHAH

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? Work on your reading comprehension. I was about to go on my first deployment so I was slutting around and fucking a lot of women whom I didn't care about because I just broke up with a long distance girlfriend - until I met her. We both deleted our dating apps shortly after meeting each other.

                >There are a LOT more adult female virgins out there than you'd think, especially with the prevalence of mental illness. Beautiful girls with horrible self esteem issues and shit due to social media and psyops.
                Sure there are lots of female virgins due to mental illness, but thats because they are the most fat and unfuckable ones, which is why they are mentally ill. Not the other way around. If a girl is truly beautiful and a virgin, its because she had good parents, specifically a good dad. Not because of some social media psyop shit, social media specifically benefits women the most.

                Sure, sometimes. Not always. My girl does have a good relationship with her parents but I've talked to a lot of girls before her and they fit the bill.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >she was on tinder
                >a virgin
                Anon, I have a bridge to sell you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There are a LOT more adult female virgins out there than you'd think, especially with the prevalence of mental illness. Beautiful girls with horrible self esteem issues and shit due to social media and psyops.
                Sure there are lots of female virgins due to mental illness, but thats because they are the most fat and unfuckable ones, which is why they are mentally ill. Not the other way around. If a girl is truly beautiful and a virgin, its because she had good parents, specifically a good dad. Not because of some social media psyop shit, social media specifically benefits women the most.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >her first real boyfrien
                Oh, so you took her REAL virginity. All those guys who ran a train on her back in high school didn't really mean it so it didn't count.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im glad some insane BDP hoe didnt convince me she had a Level 2 hymen to legally take half my assets. Tell her you want to marry but are not interested in involving the state for a marriage license and report back here in 7 days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        she was actually born with that condition that gives you like a double walled hymen
        i literally heard and felt that shit break
        shes also a high functioning autist like myself

        Thanks, I try to spread whitepills where I can. I know deep down they know I'm right, they're just stuck in the IST crab in a bucket mindset.
        [...]
        She doesn't need my assets. Her family is more wealthy than mine and she makes more money than me currently (I'm an E-nothing in the military and she's a nurse so she makes about double what I make and that'll be up to 3-4x in a few years.) I would have been homeless if not for enlisting. inb4 "oh so she just wants you dependent on her so she can take advantage of you"

        >dude seriously see i used to be an incel type but i found a girl who had a double walled hymen who totally was a virgin before meeting me and also it just happens that we are both autistic too!
        >oh and also im in the military and she's a nurse, she's definitely not cheating on me like all whore nurses and women do while their guys are in the military! and also her family is rich!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        trips of truth, keep up the whitepill gavage, but
        >e nothing
        >good job
        what?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Due to my MOS I can make E-7 in 6-7 years, I've only been in for about 2 years and I started at E-1. Nevertheless I've saved almost 20k into my retirement accounts despite barely making 20k a year since then. If I stay in a govt job I will retire a millionaire pretty easily.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he fell for the career enlisted meme
            holy shit i know she is going to cheat on you eventually and you definitely deserve it. only hope you have is to get a college degree beg to get an interview with the board to go to OCS and salvage your career before its too late.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not going to become an officer. I'm doing 8 years and working for an alphabet agency or Argon because I have a TS.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not going to become an officer. I'm doing 8 years and working for an alphabet agency or Argon because I have a TS.

              Actually I wouldn't mind becoming an LDO or going Warrant but I'll have to see what the future holds for me. Would rather not have to deal with any more deployments.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                MOS? I'm gonna guess something in intel.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a CT in the Navy. I just said MOS because I never see any other sailors on IST.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every year there is a similar study that reaches similar conclusions and I doubt them all. I doubt there is a causation between loneliness and higher death rates, how could there be? Obviously there is just a correlation, which isn't altogether unexpected. People with long streaks of loneliness can be unfit in many ways.

    t. lonely but normal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. lonely but normal
      But not healthy.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw gincel
    I'm playing life on ultra-nightmare

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet if you get to 12% bf you suddenly wont be lonely anymore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will be so smol though 🙁

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know americans have very "unique" understandings of christianity, but don't spread falsehoods about it, lest something bad happens to you. Celibacy is the christian perfection and Jesus himself wasn't married.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i find it interesting how its vague on relationships. like its not specifically about romantic relationships, it seems to be talking about friendships too. i dunno that could be me coping, while i do get lonely at times im happy for the most part and im not certain if i would react well to a woman coming into my life

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you take life cycle psychology it is about friendships too. One of the theories put forward why men suffer more is because they traditionally have to sacrifice social bonds to keep a roof over peoples’ heads. Often by the time they retire the only thing they have left are their wives as children can hold a grudge if they feel dad was too absent, even if the absence was for their greater good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like its not specifically about romantic relationships, it seems to be talking about friendships too
      I do not comprehend how you do not get that. YES ITS ABOUT FRIENDSHIPS too. And about family relationships, siblings, parents, children. And neighbors, friends, coworkers etc. Holy shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Problem is that for most old farts their spouse is the only close relationship.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well it seems a lot of anons itt don't get that as they are talking about romantic relationships

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is really terrible news for the liberal agenda.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have literally no friends. Does this mean I'm going to die sooner?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scientifically, it's a proven fact. Yes.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i feel like they got the correlation vs causation all fucked up on this one. happier people tend to have an easier time forming and keeping relationships. nobody wants to hang around a sad mopey incel. many people are also happy by themselves, and I highly doubt they studies any of those people, because those people don't leave the house or try to form relationships in the first place on account of already being happy being alone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The study follows the same people over decades.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hmm i wonder why its a popular belief to think that many ppl are happy by themselves. in my experience even the most "reclusive" hard working men (mostly farmers and handworkers) had a sizable family or animals to look out for
      those that didnt were alcoholics
      no in between

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember being young and having a large family around me at christmas in my grandad's massive house. Siblings, parents, aunts and uncles, cousins. One big happy family, together. I was the youngest and I have never felt so safe, protected and happy before - it's only after the fact that I realised that.

    All the family moved away to different countries and I haven't seen them in well over a decade. My close friends in uni disbanded to other cities and countries and never talk to them or see them anymore.

    Although now I'm strong, confident and capable with a good job, there's a big element of insecurity and vulnerability that I'm sure is not having close bonds or a tribe around me.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I found that lifting makes me happy, which makes me want to hang out with the bois more. Which continues the cycle.
    Posting on IST has the opposite affect on me if I do it too much.
    Ever since I was 14 or so I never thought a girl would like me, and I have taken that through my life so far.
    I will keep lifting and doing what I do. I have only had male friends so far, if I keep some of those I think I can make it.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >35yo never had a gf

    It's over right bros?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >41 and no gf, ever
      It gets easier bro. This year I WILL get a gf brahs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically same.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i love my bf so much i hope i can stay with him till the end of our times
    he wants to marry me mostly for tax reasons though sadly

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I'd like to see those two old fags bench 3pl8.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >post a chud that couldn't get a gf

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But uncle Ted did get a girlfriend, she died of cancer. He also is about to die sadly.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does that horse shit "study" (as most are these days) mention anything about the actual quality of relationships? Because I can guaran-fucking-tee you that a shitty, toxic, stressful relationship will do your health and well being MUCH more harm than good.

    t. been any many different relationships throughout my life (I'm 30), both short and long term

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Of course old people benefit greatly from their stable, faithful relationships. But if you're a zoomer or a millenial and try to get a gf, it's very likely to be just a major energy and time sink that will leave you joyless and sapped at the end of the day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Agree here.
        I look at millennial/zoomed relationships and think “what’s the point”?

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Loneliness is unbearable at times. If I didn’t live with my parents I’d probably kms.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't this because the data is full of involuntarily lonely people who kill themselves or just give up?

    I enjoy stress-free solitude have no need for contact with anyone.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One factor that needs consideration is that as you get older, regardless of where you are in the social heirarchy, the number of relations you have declines non-stop as you get older.

    >After school your social circle either declines or gets renewed with new faces.
    >After college it usually gets reduced to co-workers, especially as everyone from school/college moves on or starts a family of their own.
    >When you start a family it reduces to your spouse and child/children (pets don't count) as your main social circle, since if you both don't invest everything in raising the kids it's likely failed future for them.
    >When you retire/the kids move out you usually don't have the same energy to reconnect or make new friends due to age.
    >Then your spouse dies leaving you and irregular family get-togethers.

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dont give a single solitary fuck, these are likely the same ~~*scientists*~~ telling us to eat bugs instead of food

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't harvard that school from harry potter?

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The single most important factor for your health is not getting the jab. Nothing else comes even remotely close. The covid vax is the greatest threat to your health, well-being and your very life you will ever encounter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No amount of lifting, dieting, social interaction and happiness will help you if you got the jab. All that effort gone for nothing.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By that logic I am already dead

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Welp, I'm gonna die early. I've gone full shiz mode, ghosted my whole family, and moved away recently for no good reason. I live with my "best friend", his gf and kid, all of whom I can't stand. I can't trust anyone enough to let them in, and I hate myself. I would live alone in a cabin if I could.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why does a young family let a distanced schizo live with them? do you crawl out at night and steal their food?

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NICE TRY ~~*HARVARD*~~

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah well I have to be realistic about what I put my efforts into.

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