When I was a kid, a local aikido school did an expo at the village fair that was just like this. A fatass teacher doing shit like that and calling it the ultimate martial art. When they had some dorky 17 year old get flipped by a little girl student even younger than me, I noped out. If even a ten year old kid can see through you, you're an embarrassment even to bullshit.
What? If you mean leg assist takedowns because they were banned for competitions then yeah, but otherwise you can still train with them and learn them in all (real) dojos.
>rely alot on jacket grips (what if they just aren't wearing a jacket)
Gi inseam grips are used for a good portion of the throws, however sleeve grips are used for basically all of them. If the opponent doesn't have jacket or shirt on, grab them by the arm, behind the belt, back of the neck, hair, or pectoral.
>requires you to devote more attention to one person at a time then striking does (disadvantage when being attacked by multiple people)
Then strike. Elbows, headbutts, palm strikes, finger rakes, knees, and bladed hands are great. But you should be trying to E&E out of a fight with multiple people unless you have a weapon or cornered.
>requires you to have two points of contact generally speaking to perform a maneuver (striking only requires one for a split second)
Many throws utilize multiple grips, however Seoi Nage for example can utilize just one.
Learning strikes and Judo throws will greatly help you. Know both and utilize both.
"you still can train leg assist takedowns in judo its just not part of its competition"
sounds just like "you can still train kicks in a boxing gym its just not part of its competition"
you would be better off training leg take downs in a wrestling gym and kicks in a kickboxing gym
>Gi inseam grips are used for a good portion of the throws, however sleeve grips are used for basically all of them. If the opponent doesn't have jacket or shirt on, grab them by the arm, behind the belt, back of the neck, hair, or pectoral.
yes you can grab them by the arm, belt (if they are wearing a belt) or hair (if they have long enough hair), but if you aren't specifically training on a regular basis those maneuvers with those grips, then like so what you can also kick them or do a front flip or what ever, we are discussing what the martial arts will train you on a regular basis to give you skills and its a fact that judo will not primarily focus on no gi grips and you will not get as good at no gi grips as you will in almost any other grappling art.
>Then strike. Elbows, headbutts, palm strikes, finger rakes, knees, and bladed hands are great. But you should be trying to E&E out of a fight with multiple people unless you have a weapon or cornered.
yea but you cannot deny that if you HAVE to fight multiple people, then you saying "then strike" is literally you reccomending you doing a different martial art then judo and infact all of grappling in general
>Many throws utilize multiple grips, however Seoi Nage for example can utilize just one.
very difficult to get a seoi nage with one grip, are you training that? and its simply not gonna happen with no gi.
>Learning strikes and Judo throws will greatly help you. Know both and utilize both.
>yea but you cannot deny that if you HAVE to fight multiple people, then you saying "then strike" is literally you reccomending you doing a different martial art then judo and infact all of grappling in general
That is exactly what hes saying
>its a fact that judo will not primarily focus on no gi grips and you will not get as good at no gi grips as you will in almost any other grappling art.
>yea but you cannot deny that if you HAVE to fight multiple people, then you saying "then strike" is literally you reccomending you doing a different martial art then judo and infact all of grappling in general
Yeah, we agree.
>and its simply not gonna happen with no gi.
Depending on general grip strength, Ippon Seoi Nage can be easily performed once practiced long enough. Watch the video above.
I've been doing Judo for the last two years and do only 3 throws. Kata Guruma, Ostogari, and Seoi Nage.
Also, Judo has a lot of actual groundwork called Ne-Waza.
looks like the victim really tried to resist there buddy
yeah here you go
He is just recklessly swinging his noodle arm
>clearly drunk
THE stick thin drunken asiatic?
Those guys are reaching yellow bamboo tier
When I was a kid, a local aikido school did an expo at the village fair that was just like this. A fatass teacher doing shit like that and calling it the ultimate martial art. When they had some dorky 17 year old get flipped by a little girl student even younger than me, I noped out. If even a ten year old kid can see through you, you're an embarrassment even to bullshit.
isn't judo the most dangerous widely available martial art?
flaws with judo
dont train leg take downs as much
rely alot on jacket grips (what if they just aren't wearing a jacket)
requires you to devote more attention to one person at a time then striking does (disadvantage when being attacked by multiple people)
requires you to have two points of contact generally speaking to perform a maneuver (striking only requires one for a split second)
>dont train leg take downs as much
What? If you mean leg assist takedowns because they were banned for competitions then yeah, but otherwise you can still train with them and learn them in all (real) dojos.
>rely alot on jacket grips (what if they just aren't wearing a jacket)
Gi inseam grips are used for a good portion of the throws, however sleeve grips are used for basically all of them. If the opponent doesn't have jacket or shirt on, grab them by the arm, behind the belt, back of the neck, hair, or pectoral.
>requires you to devote more attention to one person at a time then striking does (disadvantage when being attacked by multiple people)
Then strike. Elbows, headbutts, palm strikes, finger rakes, knees, and bladed hands are great. But you should be trying to E&E out of a fight with multiple people unless you have a weapon or cornered.
>requires you to have two points of contact generally speaking to perform a maneuver (striking only requires one for a split second)
Many throws utilize multiple grips, however Seoi Nage for example can utilize just one.
Learning strikes and Judo throws will greatly help you. Know both and utilize both.
"you still can train leg assist takedowns in judo its just not part of its competition"
sounds just like "you can still train kicks in a boxing gym its just not part of its competition"
you would be better off training leg take downs in a wrestling gym and kicks in a kickboxing gym
>Gi inseam grips are used for a good portion of the throws, however sleeve grips are used for basically all of them. If the opponent doesn't have jacket or shirt on, grab them by the arm, behind the belt, back of the neck, hair, or pectoral.
yes you can grab them by the arm, belt (if they are wearing a belt) or hair (if they have long enough hair), but if you aren't specifically training on a regular basis those maneuvers with those grips, then like so what you can also kick them or do a front flip or what ever, we are discussing what the martial arts will train you on a regular basis to give you skills and its a fact that judo will not primarily focus on no gi grips and you will not get as good at no gi grips as you will in almost any other grappling art.
>Then strike. Elbows, headbutts, palm strikes, finger rakes, knees, and bladed hands are great. But you should be trying to E&E out of a fight with multiple people unless you have a weapon or cornered.
yea but you cannot deny that if you HAVE to fight multiple people, then you saying "then strike" is literally you reccomending you doing a different martial art then judo and infact all of grappling in general
>Many throws utilize multiple grips, however Seoi Nage for example can utilize just one.
very difficult to get a seoi nage with one grip, are you training that? and its simply not gonna happen with no gi.
>Learning strikes and Judo throws will greatly help you. Know both and utilize both.
i do both bjj and kickboxing.
>yea but you cannot deny that if you HAVE to fight multiple people, then you saying "then strike" is literally you reccomending you doing a different martial art then judo and infact all of grappling in general
That is exactly what hes saying
>its a fact that judo will not primarily focus on no gi grips and you will not get as good at no gi grips as you will in almost any other grappling art.
>yea but you cannot deny that if you HAVE to fight multiple people, then you saying "then strike" is literally you reccomending you doing a different martial art then judo and infact all of grappling in general
Yeah, we agree.
>and its simply not gonna happen with no gi.
Depending on general grip strength, Ippon Seoi Nage can be easily performed once practiced long enough. Watch the video above.
I've been doing Judo for the last two years and do only 3 throws. Kata Guruma, Ostogari, and Seoi Nage.
Also, Judo has a lot of actual groundwork called Ne-Waza.
i know that judo has newaza but like lol a black belt at judo is like maybe a blue belt in ground game at best.
also your not gonna do this seoi nage, one handed, in no gi, against a resisting opponent. lol.
but besides that i agree judo is dope as frick.
ground game is overrated anyways
Who said one handed?
Slap boxing, Pancrase-Rutten style is great for striking.
>judo
>destroys your knees
>nothing personal
>nice boxing s-ACK!!
what happened?