no gym for europoor

>29yo
>masters in computer science
>work as a cybersecurity engineer
>25K per year after taxes
>cannot even afford gym
Living in Europe is hell.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I make less than you and can afford a gym membership.

    Stop fricking whining with your fake ass excuses and lift you pansy frickcake.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, what CyberSec company are you working for?! My first job as a SOC Analyst paid 75K 5 years ago, and that was considered underpaid. Apply anywhere else my dude.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Work remote for more money? Find a new fricking job.
    Also
    >fitness

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Try to make your next greentext of falsehoods just a bit more believable ok

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yuropoors are poor though anon

      https://i.imgur.com/dSd8TZ7.jpg

      >29yo
      >masters in computer science
      >work as a cybersecurity engineer
      >25K per year after taxes
      >cannot even afford gym
      Living in Europe is hell.

      how much is your gym?

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They make almost 6 figures out the gate dude. You're either lying or you're getting played

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I was unemployed for a whole year after college. Cybersecurity doesn't hire fresh graduate, you need experience first.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      In the US yes, in many European countries engineers (master's degree) start with 20-25k€ after taxes, which is laughable imo, I will move to the US for a few years before coming back and have tax cuts while being paid much more. They enslave people fresh out of uni.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      he's probably german and losing 40-50% of his income to taxes so Jammal can rape barely legal highschool bunnies in Frankfurt and Berlin

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's always a conflip on this board when sex with teenagers is either abhorrent or you're gay for not partaking.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          no its just a skin color thing, only whites are allowed to do it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >americans when they don't mention black wieners for a whole minute

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      European salaries are notoriously bad by first world standards

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nah America is just insane to us eurogays, here people making 40k are kings most people are making half of that meanwhile people over there in Murica have an over 100k salary after college lits its nothing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He is lying, I work for a big IT company in Germany and Cybersecurity Engineers and Data Analysis is the best paid, entry is 75k+/year depending on how well you argue.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I know Senior Software engineers in Europe not even making 50k, that would easily be making 200k+ in North America.

      Europe just doesn't have the same tech bubble that we do here.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You can still make good money though. Not sure where OP is from but 25k if living in Western Europe is a joke.
        I make 75k in Spain, which is about the salary of a surgeon.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >75k in Spain, which is about the salary of a surgeon.

          Jesus dude, the average salary for a surgeon in the US is 400k, with good ones easily making 5-600+

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah because your hospitals and drug companies overcharge by one fricking billion. Basically scammers.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Driven up artificially by insurance companies over the past 100 years who wanted to get better and better "bundle deals" from the hospitals. Doctors and surgeons used to be jobs done for social credit and for the love of medicine in America. Sad shit seeing how the way things have gone

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Doctors and surgeons used to be jobs done for social credit

                Doctors, yes, Surgeons, no. Surgery has always been a profession of prestige and egotism. You pretty much have to be a little sociopathic in order to make it as a surgeon.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I know I went to graduate school in the US but decided to go back instead of working there.
            But its comparing apples with oranges. I bought I nice house in the city center for 400k, in the US and a comparable city that would have cost me 4 million plus.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >75k in Spain
          Lol, sure

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You can apply for a position yourself (gonna need a PhD though)
            https://bms.dejobs.org/sevilla/none/esp/jobs/

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Only true if you work in an expensive area. 100k in New York or California is barely anything.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's more than enough to live comfortably you moron.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >t. lives in Turkmenistan

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        25k per year after taxes is a good wage in any eastern euro country

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Okay assuming you’re not just talking out of your ass, a gym membership is 480/year for me I could easily afford that on a 25k income. What is wrong with you?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Skill issue.
    I made about 18k living in an east coast city last year and always had membership.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    true on the bright side we can always have fun in Thailand

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >live in northen balkan
    >29yo as well
    >masters in physics
    >i actually want to earn money for the house
    >learn ruby
    >land a job in e-commerce and cryptography
    >learn java as well
    >work for a little more than a year
    >called a bigger company to see what they offer
    >literally know every technology they work with for an open position
    >ask me twice for the salary on the phone and interview
    >throw fairy dust in front of my eyes that I am a excellent candidate
    >this is it
    >preemptively quit my old job
    "Anon, you still have a technical interview lmao"
    >company hires 2 seniors instead of me
    >dont even give me an oportunity
    >old boss now hates me since I left him stranded for a worker

    I am an idiot. I should have first signed a precontract. What's worse, I know about those things and I still shot myself in a foot. Now I'm trying to find a job but every single one requires at least 2-3 years of exp for a middle position.
    Any advices?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lie about experience

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lie about your experience, everyone does it. And if you have the skills you'll never be found out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Sam si si kriv.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Ma nemoj, nisam primijetio. Hvala na tako uvidom komentaru.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >cybersecurity engineer
    was it your first job? any advice?
    >t. first year cybersec degree, europoor

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      not that anon, but do a lot of research and learning in your off-time.
      TryHackMe (regardless if you want to do cyber defense or offense), Youtube and knowing how to google will help you a great deal at the start.
      There is free training for everything there is and a massive ton of tools are free and open source anyway.
      If you want to get into red teaming also try out hackthebox and other ctf platforms. Search out part-time jobs in the field, even if it is not the path you want to take at the end.
      It is basically the same as when you start lifting. Just start with anything and worry about specifics later. The important thing is that you start with something, since just a degree means jack shit in the field.

      >t. bsc in cyber security+oscp+osep pentester

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >25K per year after taxes
    >cannot even afford gym
    a super expensive luxury gym is 1200 a year, a cheap one is 240 a year
    you are just looking for excuses because you are a lazy homosexual moron

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dude get a different job. You could easily get something that pays more with those qualifications

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >25K isnt enough
    Where the frick do you even spend all that?

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    im a europoor and i live in a shithole, my gym membership is 20 euros. what the frick man

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a Yuropoor and I spend more per month for preworkout than I spend on my gym membership

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >25k per annum
    >mfw my first job in cybersec is 80k per annum
    where do you live ?

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    someone probably said this already but whatever/
    >pushups
    >pullups
    >squats
    thats really all you need, even just some daily pushups is good to maintain muscle or add if you’re a gymnoob. No excuses anon. If theres a will, theres a way

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i seriously doubt that, i have an acquaintance who migrated to europe 2 years ago as a cybersec engineer, he's making close to 80k euro and he's already a manager, only the CTO is above him now, he only has a bachelors in comp engineering but he has severa hardcore certifications, i remember one of them is world class, the exam is like a 3 day long problem solving task

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >32
    >Work as a basic software support agent answering emails
    >Make 90k/year doing maybe 5 hours of work a week

    life is pain

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >25K per year after taxes
    I make more than this working a full-time minimum wage job in Canada.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but rent in any EU city that pays software job 25k/y is like 500/month and thats very good 2/3 bdr apartment

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