>no sneed oils. >drink a shit ton of milk with sugar. >drink a shit ton of orange juice

>no sneed oils
>drink a shit ton of milk with sugar
>drink a shit ton of orange juice
>replace starchy carbs with fruits
>one carrot a day
>eat meat
>drink mexican coke

it really is this easy huh

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who is that

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      From the thumbnail it looks like Stephen King reading his newest novel to an audience in hell

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you make the orange juice yourself from responsibly sourced fruits (local pesticide free)
    then yes drink as much as you want

    i suggest distilled water only
    beef, eggs, and frozen organic vegetablesfruits

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >distilled water
      That's terrible for you, no minerals. Most 1st world tap water is unironically better

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    its actually 2 carrots per day

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't drink coke (teeth will thank you) or add sugar to milk. Don't fall for the ice cream thing either.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I eat a 1/4 cup of ice cream before bed almost every night and it does wonders for sleep and satiety. If you're not trying to get sub 10% bf, there's no harm in high quality ice cream

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you know you can brush your teeth right bro

        Anyone can go to RPF and see thread after thread of people getting chubby and having dental problems because they thought peating meant sugared milk, coke, and ice cream ad libitum. I peat too, just warning people away from some fairly common mistakes.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes there are plenty of anecdotes from retards. and shocker, retards can fuck up good protocols. if you've got sense you'll maintain weight while drastically raising bmr on a peaty diet

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Viewing coke and ice cream as cheats rather than daily staples is the good sense those retards didn't hear.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >maintain weight
            It depends.
            I was a naturally built / chubby kid.
            Before Peat I was suppressing appetite with fasting, black coffee and low carb and I was 83kg at 178cm, feeling constantly like shit.
            After Peat I got all the way up to 100kg, which I've effortlessly been maintaining for over a year now, feeling much more healthier.
            I'm probably around 25% bodyfat but because I have some upper body mass I don't look like a potato.
            Imo some people are just meant to be at higher body fat (within reason, not 40%) in order to feel healthy and the best thing they can do is accept it. Or just sniff cocaine, it's Peat approved after all.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Granted you're healthier now than before, which I don't doubt at all, but why do you think you can't feel this healthier or better at 15%? Does your current diet include eat ice cream, soda, and/or sugared milk?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just sugared milk.
                After a lot of experimentation I found out I cannot digest milk without sugar and coffee, it is what is (delicious).
                >why not 15%
                When I was 83kg I was around that bodyfat but I was a NEET with no stress outside of training, family paid for my shit and I didn't have any goals in life.
                Right now life is much busier since I make my own money, while learning a skill and I'm still training. Soon I'll start looking for a gf again.
                I'm not saying my situation is unique or that there are no people with a ton more stress than me in their lives, but relatively my stress has increased (which is a good thing because I also get rewarded through my efforts).
                When stress increases the dopamine must also increase. Most people will start smoking or drinking otherwise they'll be assholes that are constantly on edge, I don't like those options so I choose sugar.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                And I'm not saying you have to lose weight, I just really don't think it's set in stone that 25% or your body needs to be fat for you to be healthy and feel positive.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                When the time comes for me to change my job and my stress levels lower (right now I work outdoors so I deal with the weather's BS year round), I suspect that I'll probably lose some weight.
                It might sound like I'm coping right now, but that's just my natural appetite at the moment and I find it changes based on my stress levels each period.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              nice. glad to hear that. i personally haven't gained too much weight on rpd, but i have experienced an almost identical effect when i was in europe for an extended period - gained about 15lbs and felt fantastic, eating completely unrestricted. assumption is just because the food was cleaner my body let loose finally

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Before Peat I was suppressing appetite with fasting, black coffee and low carb
              Literally all 3 of those make you feel like shit on their own eventually, are stressful to the body and mind and shoot cortisol through the roof. That's why you felt like shit.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                But peat is pro coffee?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >RPF
          These people are so far removed from reality it's not even funny.
          It's good to be perceptive but at the same time you should improve your state of living for the sake of living through more experiences, not for the sake of living isolated for as long as possible because everyone and everything is out to get you.
          Eat mom's food when you see her once a month, even if it has starches and antinootrients.
          It's okay for your stomach to feel a bit upset if there is greater gain - being around good people.
          Drinking a couple beers is okay if you're going to have sex. You don't have to do it every time, but it sure helps in the beginning.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Drinking a couple beers is okay if you're going to have sex. You don't have to do it every time, but it sure helps in the beginning.

            no it's not. whats wrong with you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      i do add sugar to milk since i'm poor and cant afford as much fruit. i did drop the the soda though. adding so much sugar to my diet made me more self-aware of potential tooth decay and forced me to brush 3 times a day now, rather than just am and pm

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you know you can brush your teeth right bro

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Instead of thinking about those as notable features of the diet (they aren't), think about gelatinous foods, sources of vitamins k and d, and not just improving the ratio of sfa to pufa but reducing total dietary fat, etc.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have poor saliva quality from low thyroid function and it shows

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post thyroid levels

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        nah, this is one of the things that i don't agree with him. just look at him, he's lost some of his teeth and that vegan roidchud durianrider also had to get his teeth replaced

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When you think about it, it's just common sense. Anatomically modern humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Agriculture has existed for about 10,000. What did humans eat before that? Meat, fruit, honey.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >drink mexican coke
    Peat said that nutritionally the HFCS in Western cokes and the cane sugar in Mexican cokes are probably the same.
    But he likes the taste of the Mexican cokes much more.
    It’s his retarded but loveable followers that have interpreted his words as something other than a taste preference

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I very much doubt he said that. A returning talking point of his is how HFCS is a bowel irritant while cane sugare isn't.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's regularly said that there's nothing wrong with sucrose and I've seen quotes from him recommending something like as much as 1,000 calories a day from sucrose being fine from a metabolic standpoint but certainly never anything in favor of heavily processed sugars like HFCS.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh yeah I agree with that, maybe I misunderstood.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's regularly said that there's nothing wrong with sucrose and I've seen quotes from him recommending something like as much as 1,000 calories a day from sucrose being fine from a metabolic standpoint but certainly never anything in favor of heavily processed sugars like HFCS.

        This email exchange in 2013 is what I based my initial statement on.
        I guess he must have revised his position since then.

        >Q:Someone told me you drink HFCS coke regularly? do you think it is not
        that harmful if someone is healthy?
        >A:I prefer Mexican coke with real sugar (it tastes very different), but metabolically there isn't much difference.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck I fucked up the greentext I’m such a newfag bros

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >last Peat thread got 404'd by the jannies
    Jannies are pharmagarden gnomes confirmed

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    any peatbros take aspirin? if so, what is your daily dosage and what effects have you noticed?

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PUFA le bad, use sat fat instead
    >sugar le good, healthier than starches
    >everything is le hypothyroidism
    LMAO, enjoy your heart attack, diabetes, and high cholesterol you absolute retards

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      post nose

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    the vertical diet is a IST version of ray peats ideas

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too much sugar

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You bros know you’re pretty much going to have to take supplements to get the benefits ray preaches about right. T3, T4, aspirin, progesterone, vitamin d and k, and even antibiotics if you’re having digestion issues. I never see anyone bring this up and you all wonder why you’re not getting any benefits from eating Ice cream and steak (he also recommends against mainly eating muscle meat)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he also recommends against mainly eating muscle meat
      it's the most sensible advice simply because it's expensive to get a good quality steak everyday

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      he's also not a big fan of exercise in any context besides walking. Which is why all these threads are filling with seething dietfags and not fitness oriented people.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        He often talks about how concentric exercise is regenerative for the body

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >drink mexican coke
    How to spot a contrarian fad diet only complete retards lap up: that disgrace is advocating to swap glucose to fructose EXCEPT for this one special case where suddenly high-fructose corn syrup is less preferable than normal sucrose. But I bet believing Peats nonsense makes you feel very smart and very rebel. Same as ketolards and carnitards.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is this eating disorder you guys are talking about?

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    a shit ton of orange juice
    starchy carbs with fruits
    mexican coke
    yes its really that easy to get diabetes

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thinks sugar causes diabetes
      unthinking retard

      itt delusional fatties who are addicted to sugar and don't want to admit it

      no captcha required

      people who haphazardly throw the word 'addiction' around without a clear understanding of what it means are abysmally stupid.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >unthinking retard
        I heavily doubt you got your understanding of human metabolism from thinking really hard.
        If anything, you'd avoid fructose (and therefore sucrose too) if you really knew your stuff.
        Yes, fructose will NOT impact your insulin levels directly, nor will it cause diabetes directly. Not like "insulin resistance" is a metabolic fact either, it's merely a concept.
        Hell, you might not even get fat if you've got the right genes. But if you think you're not due for chronic inflammation, metabolic syndrome and eventually diabetes, you're fooling yourself. Unless you're very, very careful about your fatty acids intakes, in which case glycation is still something for you to worry about.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >body can't metabolize sugar
          >thinks sugar's the problem instead of his own body
          based retard

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >body can't metabolize sugar
            Who the fuck are you quoting you little fag? because I never said that. Maybe your chronic inflammation prevents you from communicating in any other form than poorly written greentext?

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    itt delusional fatties who are addicted to sugar and don't want to admit it

    no captcha required

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    99.99% of milk nowadays isn't healthy unfortunately, especially in the US
    Some European milk is nectar of the gods compared to the chemical waste we have here

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    is it normal if i can't stop sweating after taking cytomel?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is your heart rate like?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        a bit higher than normal, but not to the point where i have trouble breathing

        Are you generally high adrenaline?

        not really

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you generally high adrenaline?

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any peatbros got experience with cytomel? How long does it take to start working? I think my doses are too small.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    can I cook the carrot? I dont like it raw

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      no you cant cook it
      try grating it or making carrot sticks

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I tried grating it but it tasted bad

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          peel it, chop it up, add salt and instead of eating it in a carrot salad, try eating it along your meat and eggs.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    just admit you're weak and you need sugar

    it's okay to be weak, anon

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