>no sneed oils
>drink a shit ton of milk with sugar
>drink a shit ton of orange juice
>replace starchy carbs with fruits
>one carrot a day
>eat meat
>drink mexican coke
it really is this easy huh
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From the thumbnail it looks like Stephen King reading his newest novel to an audience in hell
if you make the orange juice yourself from responsibly sourced fruits (local pesticide free)
then yes drink as much as you want
i suggest distilled water only
beef, eggs, and frozen organic vegetablesfruits
>distilled water
That's terrible for you, no minerals. Most 1st world tap water is unironically better
its actually 2 carrots per day
Don't drink coke (teeth will thank you) or add sugar to milk. Don't fall for the ice cream thing either.
I eat a 1/4 cup of ice cream before bed almost every night and it does wonders for sleep and satiety. If you're not trying to get sub 10% bf, there's no harm in high quality ice cream
Anyone can go to RPF and see thread after thread of people getting chubby and having dental problems because they thought peating meant sugared milk, coke, and ice cream ad libitum. I peat too, just warning people away from some fairly common mistakes.
yes there are plenty of anecdotes from morons. and shocker, morons can frick up good protocols. if you've got sense you'll maintain weight while drastically raising bmr on a peaty diet
Viewing coke and ice cream as cheats rather than daily staples is the good sense those morons didn't hear.
>maintain weight
It depends.
I was a naturally built / chubby kid.
Before Peat I was suppressing appetite with fasting, black coffee and low carb and I was 83kg at 178cm, feeling constantly like shit.
After Peat I got all the way up to 100kg, which I've effortlessly been maintaining for over a year now, feeling much more healthier.
I'm probably around 25% bodyfat but because I have some upper body mass I don't look like a potato.
Imo some people are just meant to be at higher body fat (within reason, not 40%) in order to feel healthy and the best thing they can do is accept it. Or just sniff cocaine, it's Peat approved after all.
Granted you're healthier now than before, which I don't doubt at all, but why do you think you can't feel this healthier or better at 15%? Does your current diet include eat ice cream, soda, and/or sugared milk?
Just sugared milk.
After a lot of experimentation I found out I cannot digest milk without sugar and coffee, it is what is (delicious).
>why not 15%
When I was 83kg I was around that bodyfat but I was a NEET with no stress outside of training, family paid for my shit and I didn't have any goals in life.
Right now life is much busier since I make my own money, while learning a skill and I'm still training. Soon I'll start looking for a gf again.
I'm not saying my situation is unique or that there are no people with a ton more stress than me in their lives, but relatively my stress has increased (which is a good thing because I also get rewarded through my efforts).
When stress increases the dopamine must also increase. Most people will start smoking or drinking otherwise they'll be buttholes that are constantly on edge, I don't like those options so I choose sugar.
And I'm not saying you have to lose weight, I just really don't think it's set in stone that 25% or your body needs to be fat for you to be healthy and feel positive.
When the time comes for me to change my job and my stress levels lower (right now I work outdoors so I deal with the weather's BS year round), I suspect that I'll probably lose some weight.
It might sound like I'm coping right now, but that's just my natural appetite at the moment and I find it changes based on my stress levels each period.
nice. glad to hear that. i personally haven't gained too much weight on rpd, but i have experienced an almost identical effect when i was in europe for an extended period - gained about 15lbs and felt fantastic, eating completely unrestricted. assumption is just because the food was cleaner my body let loose finally
>Before Peat I was suppressing appetite with fasting, black coffee and low carb
Literally all 3 of those make you feel like shit on their own eventually, are stressful to the body and mind and shoot cortisol through the roof. That's why you felt like shit.
But peat is pro coffee?
>RPF
These people are so far removed from reality it's not even funny.
It's good to be perceptive but at the same time you should improve your state of living for the sake of living through more experiences, not for the sake of living isolated for as long as possible because everyone and everything is out to get you.
Eat mom's food when you see her once a month, even if it has starches and antinootrients.
It's okay for your stomach to feel a bit upset if there is greater gain - being around good people.
Drinking a couple beers is okay if you're going to have sex. You don't have to do it every time, but it sure helps in the beginning.
>Drinking a couple beers is okay if you're going to have sex. You don't have to do it every time, but it sure helps in the beginning.
no it's not. whats wrong with you.
i do add sugar to milk since i'm poor and cant afford as much fruit. i did drop the the soda though. adding so much sugar to my diet made me more self-aware of potential tooth decay and forced me to brush 3 times a day now, rather than just am and pm
you know you can brush your teeth right homie
Instead of thinking about those as notable features of the diet (they aren't), think about gelatinous foods, sources of vitamins k and d, and not just improving the ratio of sfa to pufa but reducing total dietary fat, etc.
You have poor saliva quality from low thyroid function and it shows
Post thyroid levels
nah, this is one of the things that i don't agree with him. just look at him, he's lost some of his teeth and that vegan roidtroony durianrider also had to get his teeth replaced
When you think about it, it's just common sense. Anatomically modern humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Agriculture has existed for about 10,000. What did humans eat before that? Meat, fruit, honey.
>drink mexican coke
Peat said that nutritionally the HFCS in Western cokes and the cane sugar in Mexican cokes are probably the same.
But he likes the taste of the Mexican cokes much more.
It’s his moronic but loveable followers that have interpreted his words as something other than a taste preference
I very much doubt he said that. A returning talking point of his is how HFCS is a bowel irritant while cane sugare isn't.
He's regularly said that there's nothing wrong with sucrose and I've seen quotes from him recommending something like as much as 1,000 calories a day from sucrose being fine from a metabolic standpoint but certainly never anything in favor of heavily processed sugars like HFCS.
Oh yeah I agree with that, maybe I misunderstood.
This email exchange in 2013 is what I based my initial statement on.
I guess he must have revised his position since then.
>Q:Someone told me you drink HFCS coke regularly? do you think it is not
that harmful if someone is healthy?
>A:I prefer Mexican coke with real sugar (it tastes very different), but metabolically there isn't much difference.
Frick I fricked up the greentext I’m such a newbie bros
>last Peat thread got 404'd by the jannies
Jannies are pharmaisraelites confirmed
any peatbros take aspirin? if so, what is your daily dosage and what effects have you noticed?
>PUFA le bad, use sat fat instead
>sugar le good, healthier than starches
>everything is le hypothyroidism
LMAO, enjoy your heart attack, diabetes, and high cholesterol you absolute morons
post nose
the vertical diet is a IST version of ray peats ideas
Too much sugar
You homies know you’re pretty much going to have to take supplements to get the benefits ray preaches about right. T3, T4, aspirin, progesterone, vitamin d and k, and even antibiotics if you’re having digestion issues. I never see anyone bring this up and you all wonder why you’re not getting any benefits from eating Ice cream and steak (he also recommends against mainly eating muscle meat)
>he also recommends against mainly eating muscle meat
it's the most sensible advice simply because it's expensive to get a good quality steak everyday
he's also not a big fan of exercise in any context besides walking. Which is why all these threads are filling with seething dietgays and not fitness oriented people.
He often talks about how concentric exercise is regenerative for the body
>drink mexican coke
How to spot a contrarian fad diet only complete morons lap up: that disgrace is advocating to swap glucose to fructose EXCEPT for this one special case where suddenly high-fructose corn syrup is less preferable than normal sucrose. But I bet believing Peats nonsense makes you feel very smart and very rebel. Same as ketolards and carnitards.
What is this eating disorder you guys are talking about?
a shit ton of orange juice
starchy carbs with fruits
mexican coke
yes its really that easy to get diabetes
>thinks sugar causes diabetes
unthinking moron
people who haphazardly throw the word 'addiction' around without a clear understanding of what it means are abysmally stupid.
>unthinking moron
I heavily doubt you got your understanding of human metabolism from thinking really hard.
If anything, you'd avoid fructose (and therefore sucrose too) if you really knew your stuff.
Yes, fructose will NOT impact your insulin levels directly, nor will it cause diabetes directly. Not like "insulin resistance" is a metabolic fact either, it's merely a concept.
Hell, you might not even get fat if you've got the right genes. But if you think you're not due for chronic inflammation, metabolic syndrome and eventually diabetes, you're fooling yourself. Unless you're very, very careful about your fatty acids intakes, in which case glycation is still something for you to worry about.
>body can't metabolize sugar
>thinks sugar's the problem instead of his own body
based moron
>body can't metabolize sugar
Who the frick are you quoting you little gay? because I never said that. Maybe your chronic inflammation prevents you from communicating in any other form than poorly written greentext?
itt delusional fatties who are addicted to sugar and don't want to admit it
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99.99% of milk nowadays isn't healthy unfortunately, especially in the US
Some European milk is nectar of the gods compared to the chemical waste we have here
is it normal if i can't stop sweating after taking cytomel?
What is your heart rate like?
a bit higher than normal, but not to the point where i have trouble breathing
not really
Are you generally high adrenaline?
Any peatbros got experience with cytomel? How long does it take to start working? I think my doses are too small.
can I cook the carrot? I dont like it raw
no you cant cook it
try grating it or making carrot sticks
I tried grating it but it tasted bad
peel it, chop it up, add salt and instead of eating it in a carrot salad, try eating it along your meat and eggs.
just admit you're weak and you need sugar
it's okay to be weak, anon