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ITT we discuss the effects of sexual abstinence on fitness
looking at existing literature there is strong evidence that sexual abstinence induces a significant increase in male sex hormone, but reliable research is few and between because they can't reliably control and monitor the behaviour of test participants. in other words the only way you can really know is to test it for yourself, but none of you soda brain coomers have actually gone to 3+ weeks on nofap

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he thinks short term spikes provides long term effects.
    >he thinks fluctuations within normal, healthy, ranges will makes any difference

    the Nofap and celibacy people are dumb as fuck

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      keep on fappin, fogbrain

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        "brainfig" is what MLM promoters use to sell their products to gullible idiots

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          don't touch your penis for a week and you'll know what i'm on about unless you're actually low t. plus nobody profits from it so you know it's good lmao

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            have done it before. for several weeks, no difference, cause im not a borderline testosterone deficient male, with imaginary issues

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >no difference
              your body is literally unable to make enough test to make a difference. feels bad man

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                my body makes enough so it wont make a difference. my sex drive is through the roof.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                just cause you fap every night doesn't mean you have high test. it means you're addicted

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no difference
            your body is literally unable to make enough test to make a difference. feels bad man

            masturbation ruins gains / porn causes brain damage

            sorry but those are the facts

            >masturbation ruins gains
            Post body.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uhhhooo huspant... Why you no save monry to buy home...

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      juden

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao, keep jerking off you cuckold gay

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Avoiding porn and sex before marriage is the number one proven way to improve marital happiness and success.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh test increase
        top jej
        Didn't increase serum test levels, so you might as well take placebo pills and make yourself believe they raise test, you'll have the same result.

        >getting married in 2022+
        Oof.

        https://i.imgur.com/qFkkFBm.jpg

        don't touch your penis for a week and you'll know what i'm on about unless you're actually low t. plus nobody profits from it so you know it's good lmao

        99% of you are actual incels with mental health problems, who deluded themselves into thinking not touching your dick is some type of treatment.

        https://i.imgur.com/lJ8WQPA.jpg

        i simply do not understand how people can regularly jack off and watch porn as adults, i feel like such a fucking loser when i do it and the shame i feel is strong. im not a moralfag either, i love fucking girls but there is something about porn and jacking off that kills my soul and that begins to affect my relationships with girls, my motivation at work, my treatment of my family, etc.

        there's something deeply corrupt about it and your monkey brain knows, dont do it bros, go out and get real girls, and if you can't get the girls you think you want want to do the things you think you want, maybe that says something about the desires you've built up over the years that just don't jive with reality. the real world is real interaction with real girls, not indulging in absurd fantasies in front of a screen

        >jacking off kills my soul and affects everyone around me
        So you're just a garbage human being and only act like a good boy when you lack the clarity of mind that comes from rubbing one out.
        Sounds like a (You) problem.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thats fine if you are married.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Nofap cultists are retarded and cant into physiology and hormones lmao. Nofap is literally a reddit meme.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        NoNutNovember and then indulging in BLACKED porn is a reddit meme. Abstaining from masturbation and quitting porn once and for all are legit practices.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nofap does nothing. Nothing.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >done by incels, polchuds, redditors and religious nuts
          >""""legit practices""""
          I guess shitting in the street is a legit practice too.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anecdotally, people who nofap for years are not high test. They are mostly Christians, and there is something status-lowering about the practice. By framing absolute, longterm nofap as a self-improvement behavior (or a godly behavior) they are giving themselves a years-long or decades-long identity of a person who is still struggling with a seemingly simple problem.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can somehow attest to this.
      Got epic ego boost from going 3 years without ejaculating outside of wet dreams, except have been feeling like something is off for most of the time of doing this and I can no longer fap everyday like I used to do now it is barely weekly and if I do more I feel too weak.
      There are benefits IMO but there are cons to this practice definitely.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that is a very interesting take on it that i never heard before. Thanks for sharing

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason I'd want to nofap is to increase the "idgaf" attitude. How long do you have to abstain for that? What would be a good masturbation frequency?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      just manually stop caring, much easier.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How long do you have to abstain for that?
      It depends on your current mindset. Are you ashamed of your current masturbation habits? If so, proving you're not a slave to dopamine is a win, and will increase your confidence. If it's not something you really care about, then it won't.
      Personally, I was addicted to porn (5+ times per day) and found myself getting into more and more shameful stuff. Quitting has made me happier, but it didn't magically turn me into a chad at X weeks like Reddit infographics would have you believe.
      >What would be a good masturbation frequency?
      If it's shameful and you want to quit, then quit. Don't turn porn into a reward that you crave all week, only to then feel ashamed right after doing it.
      As for masturbation without porn, I can't really advise since my goal is specifically to quit porn. But I've found myself wanting to jerk off a lot less without access to porn.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every 3-4 days release

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Masturbation is so harmful that ancient people started mutilating their sons to prevent them from jerking off.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >10 people 3 weeks
    Nothing significant, could be just regular hormone fluctuations
    The paper's author suggests that the increase in testosterone prior to the second orgasm session was most likely due to anticipation of continued sexual activity not the result of abstinence

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sexual abstinence increases your test in order to make you horny so that you feel the need to reproduce.

    Same as when you fast and you release adrenaline in order to be pumped and awake so that you have energy and focus to hunt and find food to not die.

    These are bursts of energy. They probably won't have long lasting effects. It might even give a turnaround with test, when your body realizes that increased test does not lead to sexual intercourse. There could be a tipping point where too long without sex might shut your test building capacity off since it is an energy consuming activity/process. The best you can get from all that is possibly cycles of test boost, but not a forever lasting increased test level

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    All you need to know is boxers stop having sex or jerking off a month before a big fight

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      no they fucking don't.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lots of athletes do this (the time leading up to an event varies) but it’s pretty well known…

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    or, y'know, just use steroids.

    seriously you fucking retards if you want to raise your T levels then just... raise them. injections of testosterone are exactly identical to the testosterone you produce naturally; they'll cause no more side effects than what you otherwise would have gotten (except for HPTA shutdown).

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but none of you soda brain coomers have actually gone to 3+ weeks on nofap
    I did nofap november, and frankly I didn't notice any physical difference aside from being more horny, no increased energy, agressivity etc.
    I will try it again this year with a before/after bloodwork comparison because it didn't feel like my test changed significantly.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Unironically there is a point three weeks in where I feel supercharged. That's the only word I can use to describe the feeling. Really I'm just functioning the way a healthy young adult male should. Nofap doesn't make you superhuman, but fapping does make you subhuman.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I relapsed last night after over a month. Dunno if I can do another long run. Should I resort to a no hands fap like humping and fleshlight?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >should I engage in degenerate behavior?
      No

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    On about 5 weeks now.
    >see a different kind beauty in girls
    >no longer seek quick nut/hookup but a healthy relationship instead
    >horny in a good kind of way (ambitious)
    >have made an effort to improve my physical appearance (styling hair, shaping beard, etc)
    >improving my lifestyle to be more attractive
    >talking to girls is 100x easier, literally comes naturally at this point

    Nofap is great but it all depends on the mindset you have going into it with. For me, I just want some pussy and told myself I won’t nut in anything but my gf. So in turn I’m improving all areas in my life so I can attract a hot girlfriend. People will still seethe but personally this shit works and that’s all I care about. Just make it a goal to find your gf/future wife and only nut in her

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I quadrupled my test levels and am cumming more frequently than ever. If you actually cared about test levels you would do things to increase test levels instead of not doing things in hopes of an increase that wouldn't be statistically significant.
    Nope. You just want to join a penis cult and talk about penises with other penis cult members. Have fun obsessing over penises I guess. I'll be over here having a life.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I quadrupled my test levels and am cumming more frequently than ever.
      I don't think nofap makes a difference for test personally, although masturbating rarely and less frequently may have an effect on how you interact with the world.

      And how easily do you think men can increase test anyway? Good sleep and consistent weight training seem like the most evidence supported behaviors, but I don't feel like a fucking bull or anything. The tricky thing seems to be that test is a social hormone. The more you exert dominance or compete, and the more you feel you aren't a cog in a machine, the more your test is supposed to respond. If it was an easy system to fool you could just watch lots of sports and porn, or play some dumb online video game, all of which obviously doesn't work. I'd be curious what you did.

      It better not be some meme supplements that every influencer has their own branded version of.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Basically I draw up test and then put it in my body. It's unsurprisingly effective.
        You might be on to something with the social stuff but at some point your body can't keep up. Only option from there is choosing to get old or trt.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Basically I draw up test and then put it in my body. It's unsurprisingly effective.
          Ok, so you're using illegal substances and harming your health to feel horny? into the trash with you

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing even close to that. Where did you get such a retarded idea from?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              What does
              >Draw up test
              mean?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Here's what i do:
        Lift, sleep, eat a test boosting diet, get lots of sun, take zinc/magnesium, play sports, flirt with girls often at my job. My test feels like it's through the roof and my voice is much lower. I feel like a feral ape ready to fuck everything. I masturbate whenever I want to (once every day or so)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I quadrupled my test levels
      What a lying gay.
      500mg testosterone blast puts you at 4-6x natty levels.
      You didnt not get the equivalent of a steroid cycle from not playing with your dick for a month.
      gay

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Low 200s to 1,000 something. It works as long as you aren't stupid. Might not be any hope for you.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only you never went from 200 to 1000 by not touching yourself at night or any other natty "test boost" meme.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      my natural levels were decent, around 525ngl. a lot of people on nofap think test is the main problem when its really something else

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    hubermanlab episode on nofap when?

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    it'll never not be funny to me that an entire generation of young men were meme'd into abstaining from jacking off from internet jokes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      more like an entire generation of young men were memed into thinking that having 24/ access to porn and to see more tits and pussies and depravity in a day than their ancestors did in a year will not absolutely fry their brain reward wiring

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't doubt that unbridled access to pornography is a net bad for a developing person, but the scorched earth mentality toward sexuality that these freaks take on is hilarious to me. maybe i'm built different, i don't have an addictive personality, so i can't imagine jacking off ruining my life

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"I'm built different"
          Get the fuck our of here, zoomer.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It´ll never be funny how an entire generation of young men were meme´d into thinking garden gnomes rule the world

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon... are these garden gnomes, in the room with you right now?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous
  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been on nofap for almost 6 months now. Not because I want benefits, but for religious reasons. There are some tiny benefits, but nothing really noticeable. I'm just glad I'm not a coomer anymore.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone post the "you were not built to jerk off" meme

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    say no more, brother

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does the addition of dietary lecithin counter this in any way?

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m on day 41, things have been sweet ever since.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    nofap makes you irritable, aggressive and obsessed with masturbation
    someone who thinks masturbation is ok will do it less and will never think about it when they're not doing it.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The increase in testosterone happens on the 7th day. If you continue nofap, it returns to baseline and never increases again. So what you highlighted is true, but 3 weeks of abstinence isn't required.

    If you do masterbate after the 7-8th day however, you reset the cycle and can once more experience a spike on the 7th day.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The main benefits come from the androgen receptors upregulating, the estrogen receptors downregulating and prolactin not spiking up constantly for weeks after ejaculation. Semen retention is 100% legit, but most men nowadays don't even have the willpower to stop for a few days anyway.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      false

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Serious question, do not nofappers believe there is a physiological difference between someone who faps daily and someone who fycks their wife daily? Or would having daily sex have the same perceived physiological downsides as masturbation?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The dishonest ones say there's a difference. Apparently most nofaps pretend that semen retention works only as long as they're an incel. The second not fapping/cumming becomes a challenge they drop it and try to act like they were never a part of the creepy penis obsession cult.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i simply do not understand how people can regularly jack off and watch porn as adults, i feel like such a fucking loser when i do it and the shame i feel is strong. im not a moralfag either, i love fucking girls but there is something about porn and jacking off that kills my soul and that begins to affect my relationships with girls, my motivation at work, my treatment of my family, etc.

    there's something deeply corrupt about it and your monkey brain knows, dont do it bros, go out and get real girls, and if you can't get the girls you think you want want to do the things you think you want, maybe that says something about the desires you've built up over the years that just don't jive with reality. the real world is real interaction with real girls, not indulging in absurd fantasies in front of a screen

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Counterpoint: having been married and divorced twice, having plowed through easily 40 women between ages 16 and 36, I would just rather crank on my dong and not have to fucking put up with women and their mouths and fucking bullshit. Everything about women is a fucking pain in the ass.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think nofap has been pretty good for me, I stopped and about 2 weeks in a felt a sudden urge to start playing guitar again and I started to want to go hiking. I can't explain it honestly, I just feel happier.
      I posted in a thread a while back about my theory that your brain now finds activities that release less dopamine more tolerable, since you aren't jacking off and increasing the bodys standard level.

      Also I fucking love not looking at fucking fetish shit. Cooming is a rabbit hole where you just get into weirder fucking shit and you just gotta get out.

      I agree with this completely.

      https://i.imgur.com/UP0Sgze.jpg

      >start feeling bored
      >jerk off
      >start feeling lonely
      >jerk off
      >start feeling stressed
      >jerk off
      >start feeling angry
      >jerk off
      >start feeling tfw no gf
      >jerk off

      oh god anons please help me stop this I'm fucking addicted

      Try it for 4 weeks. First week is worst but keep at it and free yourself.

      I do not understand the thought process masturbation abstinance.

      If its getting to be a problem and it consumes your thoughts sure, you might wanna ease up and get a hobby.

      I have many things to occupy my time, work and hobbies, i'm also in a non-monogamous coupling with a few people, so sex if still pretty regular maybe 1-3x a week.

      I masturbate about twice every day but at least once, and always have.

      It's not something that's ever hindered any aspect of my life, and in fact, abstaining has only caused me problems with things like fluid build-up in the testes, which is fucking painful.

      If you're experiencing metal fogginess nothing sorts me out better than a quick tug. Then i'm ready to go.

      Abstainers are the mirror of coomers. Neither have true self-control

      The idea is that masterbation produces dopamine to a point where hobbies relatively seem less fun. Also, people who are able to control their bodies sexual urges have no self control? Huh?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh dopamine
        Get a life.

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I doubt there is any effect. I'm quite certain being in good physical shape and having an orgasm aren't related. What i'm curious about is how that correlation even got started. What's the logic?

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I've been a coomer for 2 decades, will it fix my ED when I'm with a real girl? I went to a club one time and a cute shortstack latina was grinding on my dick but she noticed I wasn't getting hard and left. I also haven't gotten hard with a real pussy in my face. Before I was a coomer (middle school) I got a blowjob and was able to stay hard in her mouth even when she didn't move, I can't imagine doing that now.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your psyche has a huge role to play in your physical reaction to things but at the end of the day a healthy adult body will react to sexual stimuli. I'd bet it has less to do with your mental and more your physical situation.
      Examine your diet and see if there is anything you aren't getting enough of. Zinc is a good place to start, just do some basic research first.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I eat salmon, broccoli, and brown rice once a day as a meal and I run 5k everyday (picture related) after lifting. I also make sure to sleep well and I take multivitamins. I really think its because I'm a brainless coomer, but I'll read up on zinc.

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are always the same.
    >hurr durr shlomo rabbi garden gnome shekelberg post nose tel aviv resident
    >you're just low T bro
    >where is le SCIENCE of nofap
    >noporn is better
    >coomer bugman cumbrain cuck
    >durr cope seethe you're addicted
    >nofap is retarded guys
    >your ancestors did X thing trust me bro
    >dude just renounce your libido entirely lmao
    >dude just have kids every 9 months and ruin your life
    >muh 7 day cycles
    >just look at this irrelevant extract from a 500 year old text that means absolutely nothing
    >guys I'm horny from not touching my peepee what do I do waaah
    >you're lying
    >no you're lying
    >porn porn porn porn porn
    >just have sex instead
    >based cringe onions
    Worst threads on IST. Just fuck off

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget:
      >Guys I [had sex / had a wet dream / got blue balls] did I break my streak? Bros??? I'm still a BASED NOFAPPER right? r-right guys?? guys?????

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget:
      >Guys I [had sex / had a wet dream / got blue balls] did I break my streak? Bros??? I'm still a BASED NOFAPPER right? r-right guys?? guys?????

      so do you people lift or do just come here to project your deep self-loathing at non masturbators?

      [...]
      it is ironic they blame the one sexual outlet and source of pleasure they have for there problems. really though jerking off multiple times a day every day isn't good and probably not even once *every* day but nofap is just astrology tier shit for incels. every guy i know that fucks regularly, every guy i know that has a girlfriend, and every guy i know that's married, all jack off. it's what any healthy male does. idk why you gotta go from one extreme to another, just be normal lmao

      >ignore your gf/wife for masturbation

      no, that's not normal. do their wives and gf know they are masturbating?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's completely normal, men almost always have a higher libido than women and sometimes you just want a wank. i can't tell if i'm talking to teenagers or really grown men that are this fucking naive about sex and the world

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's completely normal, men almost always have a higher libido than women and sometimes you just want a wank.

          an occasional wank with your wife is not available...sure. frequently putting them to the wayside to jack off is not healthy. I'd like to see how often masturbating men get divorced.

          and no, you're talking to a grown man you stupid dipshit.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >frequently putting them to the wayside to jack off is not healthy
            definite frequently to you because nowhere did i suggest anything that would fall under that in my interpretation

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              again, masturbating because you really have to get off and your wife is not available, sure. but I don't know of any healthy relationship where the wife is aware that her guy is actively masturbating to pornography. that is not a sign of a good relationship.

              and if it was something good and normal, there would be no problem and the wife would be OK with it right? well, that's not how they see it lol

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      why are you posting mint?

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >start feeling bored
    >jerk off
    >start feeling lonely
    >jerk off
    >start feeling stressed
    >jerk off
    >start feeling angry
    >jerk off
    >start feeling tfw no gf
    >jerk off

    oh god anons please help me stop this I'm fucking addicted

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bitch bro

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    how the fuck can you work on that, 30 years old virgin here.
    I literally have NOTHING to talk about it with people. THE VOID is what happens when I talk to anybody. I joke around too but then people start laughing AT me and put me beneath them in the pecking order.
    Fuck EM

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Start doing things and you will have things to talk about.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >waaah I'm boring help me
      >waaah the only thing I talk about is being DYEL with a bunch of strangers on a chinkshit image forum
      I;m always wondering how people like you exist.
      You lived for 30 fucking years, and you sound like a robotic boomer that only knows how to work and take a shit.
      How the FUCK do you go through 30 years of your life without enough experiences and interests that you can't hold a conversation with another human being?

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    it is ironic they blame the one sexual outlet and source of pleasure they have for there problems. really though jerking off multiple times a day every day isn't good and probably not even once *every* day but nofap is just astrology tier shit for incels. every guy i know that fucks regularly, every guy i know that has a girlfriend, and every guy i know that's married, all jack off. it's what any healthy male does. idk why you gotta go from one extreme to another, just be normal lmao

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's what any healthy male does
      sad that this is the consensus. only monkeys in a cage masturbate

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        every man going back to prehistory has you illiterate gay. get out more and meet some actual men and women and you might not cry every time you touch yourself

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >every man going back to prehistory has you illiterate gay.

          without pornography? no. wide spread pornography is as new as entire generations of men just deciding to masturbate. there's a reason why boys were married off in their teenage years for a majority of human history.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >new as entire generations of men just deciding to masturbate
            you are an actual retard lmao read a book

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              name some

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            has porn destroyed your mind so much you cant masturbate without it? is this normal? ive never heard of anyone who absolutely needed porn to cum?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Basically one of the reasons nofap/noporn/etc.. exists
              Not everyone has the same case, basically people don't get the same treatment that schizos get compared to clinically declared retards

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he can't even imagine masturbation without porn
            ebin :DD

            [...]
            so do you people lift or do just come here to project your deep self-loathing at non masturbators?

            [...]
            >ignore your gf/wife for masturbation

            no, that's not normal. do their wives and gf know they are masturbating?

            >has the libido of a woman
            just as expected

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    porn is no good for you, jacking off 5 times a day is no good for you.
    But these delusional retards who actually jack off once a week on a schedule because they think the minuscule test boost that lasts and has no clinical significance will turn them into Captain America if they just do it long enough.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      *that lasts a few hours

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason to do it is to get horny so you're more likely to flirt with people and do more adventurous shit. Freud said that all energy was libido--sexual energy. He was wrong but getting horny is a big motivator. And it makes me feel a little more outgoing.

    The test boost is a joke. I say this as a fraudster who spaces his faps out to like once a week.

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >looking at existing literature there is strong evidence that sexual abstinence induces a significant increase in male sex hormone,
    The study shows that at 10 minutes both the abstainers and the non abstainers had the same testosterone.
    >but reliable research is few and between because they can't reliably control and monitor the behaviour of test participants.
    I have a study of guys who were doing involuntary semen retention hard mode (they had severe erectile dysfunction), and they all had low testosterone.
    Then when the doctors fixed their dicks with various methods so that they could start cooming again, their test levels basically doubled.
    The conclusion is that if you go for a long time without cooming, your body will lower your test levels as high test is not needed anymore. That's why monks practice semen retention, so that they can kill the sex drive and therefore attachments, it will happen the longer you practice it. The sex hormones drop as your body senses that you don't need to reproduce anymore.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I have a study of guys who were doing involuntary semen retention hard mode (they had severe erectile dysfunction), and they all had low testosterone.
      Here...
      Long term semen retention is bad news for test levels. Do it at your own peril.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        And there's one liar on here telling us he quadrupled his test level by not touching his dick

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah sure this study is relevant, if you can't have sex because of ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION lmfao

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >yeah sure this study is relevant, if you can't have sex because of ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION lmfao
          Lack of cooming over the long term causes lowered T.
          Semen retention over the long term causes low T.
          The flatline is low T.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            im just looking at the paper you posted, the title says "Lack of sexual activity FROM erectile dysfunction is associated with a reversible reduction in serum testosterone." Which makes sense IF your dick doesn't work THEN not being able to have sex doesn't help. The prior condition in this case is that the subject is already impotent. Your study is useless when talking about healthy, virile men like me

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >im just looking at the paper you posted, the title says "Lack of sexual activity FROM erectile dysfunction is associated with a reversible reduction in serum testosterone."
              The erectile dysfunction causes these men to have to retain their semen. If they didn't have erectile dysfunction and chose to retain semen, then over the long term their testosterone levels would downregulate in the same way it does for men with erectile dysfunction.
              >Which makes sense IF your dick doesn't work THEN not being able to have sex doesn't help.
              It's the lack of sex/orgasm that is causing the low T, the erectile dysfunction is a red herring. It's simply a way to simulate semen retention in the wild.
              >The prior condition in this case is that the subject is already impotent.
              The prior condition is semen retention. Testosterone is normalized once they are able to release semen on a regular basis again.
              >Your study is useless when talking about healthy, virile men like me
              No, you will also exhibit a lowering of testosterone if you do semen retention for a prolonged period of time with no sexual outlet.
              Flatline is low testosterone.

              Did you know that prolactin sensitizes the testosterone producing cells in the testes (leydig cells) to luteinizing hormone. Keeping prolactin low for a prolonged period of time (semen retention) will reduce the responsiveness of the leydig cells to pituitary signalling resulting in lowered testosterone.
              Many men who do semen retention end up having less morning wood after months for example, but after cooming their morning wood comes back with a vengeance as the increased prolactin causes the leydig cells to ramp up production of testosterone with the same LH input signal, stimulating prolonged hard nocturnal penile tumescence much greater than in the preceding semen retention period. This is the power of the orgasm induced testosterone rise after being in a semen retention state for a prolonged period whether by choice or by force (ED)

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's easier to overdo the prolactin response than never cum again. so it's better to promote no fap and have people try and fail for 2 or 3 weeks at a time before retrying. it's healthier to be generally celibate than a regular masturbator

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I like once a week, just to keep everything in working order

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i had a wet dream after 6 weeks a couple months back, i feel that if the body needs to keep itself in working order (and is healthy) it will take care of itself
                and masturbation is entirely unnecessary

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Some people don't have wet dreams, especially as one gets older. In this case, manual cooming every once in a while is recommended to keep hormones upregulated.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wet dreams are a sign of high testosterone. I never had wet dreams growing up, only after going off porn and fapping for a while did they start occuring

                >i had a wet dream after 6 weeks a couple months back,
                How did you feel after, rejuvenated?
                Or did you feel nofap imposed shame for "failing". I've read lot's of guys getting mad at having wet dreams because it ruined their "streak".

                Immediately you feel the mess and have to clean it so that's annoying. But you know your body and brain are in working order and you feel like a well-oiled machine. And yeah lmfao it ends a streak but it's the best way to do it outside of having sex

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Wet dreams are a sign of high testosterone
                Lol, you're gonna be fucking astonished when you get bloodwork done and it comes back in the 300 - 500ng/dl range.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i had a wet dream after 6 weeks a couple months back,
                How did you feel after, rejuvenated?
                Or did you feel nofap imposed shame for "failing". I've read lot's of guys getting mad at having wet dreams because it ruined their "streak".

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                A common issue that occurs in men recovering from pornography and masturbation addiction is inhibition of wet dreams. This may be particularly true in young men or single adult men who masturbated for a long period of time or starting masturbating at an early age. In these men, the reproductive system has relied on physical stimulation in order to empty the reproductive glands of excess sexual fluid.

                Men who were involved in frequent masturbation trained their bodies to increase fluid production in the sexual glands in order to have sufficient semen for each ejaculation. If the addiction has gone on for longer periods of time, especially years, then the reproductive glands have often been well trained to be overproducers of fluid. This is especially true if frequent masturbation began in the early teens. As men try to quit (oftentimes “cold turkey”) the prostate and seminal vesicles continue their high rate of fluid production, but ejaculation does not occur to empty the glands once they’re full. In normal circumstances, the body would correct this congestion by having a wet dream. However, since these men have ejaculated primary by watching pornography (high mental stimulation) and prolonged masturbation (high physical stimulation), the stimulation needed to cause ejaculation often exceeded what nature can duplicate during sleep. This can lead to a man feeling very sexually congested, wanting to ejaculate. Since the desire to ejaculate is often tied to the desire to view porn, this often serves as a near constant trigger than can lead to relapses of their addiction.
                It can often take weeks to months for the male body to once again start having neurological wet dreams during sleep. This varies from one individual to the next. We conducted a survey that asked men who had overcome masturbation, how long it took after they stopped masturbating for wet dreams to start reoccurring. The results are as follows:

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fortunately, in many cases (29% of teens and 44% of adults) the male body typically does a pretty amazing job of bouncing back within 1-3 weeks by having wet dreams to relieve these glands when they become sufficiently engorged. In addition, 16-17% of men continue to have wet dreams even when they are masturbating. However, for other 44% of teens and 31% of adults the body doesn’t bounce back as quickly and wet dreams can take a month or more to bounce back. These weeks and months can involve a significant amount of physical temptation and stimulation due to the congestion in the glands. Repeated slips, often triggered by congestion, can inhibit the body’s ability to have wet dreams regularly. However, by three months, 97% of men and young men will have resumed having wet dreams. Perhaps the reason that men tend to leap ahead in their recovery at three weeks and three months has much to do with resumption of wet dreams and normalizing reproductive functions

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/es0JdGd.png

                Fortunately, in many cases (29% of teens and 44% of adults) the male body typically does a pretty amazing job of bouncing back within 1-3 weeks by having wet dreams to relieve these glands when they become sufficiently engorged. In addition, 16-17% of men continue to have wet dreams even when they are masturbating. However, for other 44% of teens and 31% of adults the body doesn’t bounce back as quickly and wet dreams can take a month or more to bounce back. These weeks and months can involve a significant amount of physical temptation and stimulation due to the congestion in the glands. Repeated slips, often triggered by congestion, can inhibit the body’s ability to have wet dreams regularly. However, by three months, 97% of men and young men will have resumed having wet dreams. Perhaps the reason that men tend to leap ahead in their recovery at three weeks and three months has much to do with resumption of wet dreams and normalizing reproductive functions

                >Perhaps the reason that men tend to leap ahead in their recovery at three weeks and three months has much to do with resumption of wet dreams and normalizing reproductive functions
                I think so as well. Also, i appreciate the informative posts

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i actually feel horny af the morning after a wet dream, like my body didn't expel enough.

                Wet dreams are a sign of high testosterone. I never had wet dreams growing up, only after going off porn and fapping for a while did they start occuring
                [...]
                Immediately you feel the mess and have to clean it so that's annoying. But you know your body and brain are in working order and you feel like a well-oiled machine. And yeah lmfao it ends a streak but it's the best way to do it outside of having sex

                >Wet dreams are a sign of high testosterone.
                nice. i'm in my 30's and having wet dreams like every fortnight, more than i ever had.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You mean you like doing it once a week to relieve withdrawal symptoms.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      /fit/cels on suicide watch

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >(they had severe erectile dysfunction), and they all had low testosterone.
      what is reverse causation

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The low testosterone was caused by lack of cooming. Once the doctors fixed their dick and they could finally end their semen retention and let loose the coom, their test skyrocketed.
        Use it or lose it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          but is there such a thing as overuse? What that study found is there is such a thing as under use which comes with negative effects.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but is there such a thing as overuse? What that study found is there is such a thing as under use which comes with negative effects.
            In animals, scientists do have a term called "sexual exhaustion" that describes a temporarily altered state (but still relatively long lasting) that sometimes occurs (not always) after the animal is allowed to copulate as much as he wants. Sexually exhausted males are unresponsive to sex/sexual opportunities, they have other "negative" physical changes, and they are more sensitive to drugs.

            Humans also have the dual problem that daily habits that occupy too much time per day (without bringing a tangible benefit) invariably start interfering with human thriving in your other areas of your life. If you have a carefree lifestyle and if you make room by sacrificing other parts of your free time then you can jack it to porn for a large portion of the day with fewer effects, but it's still generally not a good idea.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          when you realize flatline and low T symptoms are the same.
          Many guys who do semen retention complain that the flatline keeps coming back or they cant get out of flatline.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Indeed. These are the same retards that say fapping keeps the prostate cancer away.
        Why? Because studies show that prostate cancer patients fap much less.
        Fucking retards, they fap less because their prostate is giving them trouble.
        Doesn't mean that fapping less leads to prostate cancer and fapping more keeps it away.

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's all in your head, but it works for me even though I realize this

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >go to bed 2 nights ago
    >wake up in the middle of the night at 3 AM horny as fuck
    >can't do back to sleep
    >feel like shit the next day, still horny
    >go to bed last night
    >wake up again at 4 AM, horny as fuck
    >decide enough is enough and bust a nut so I can get some rest
    How do I do nofap without losing sleep and feeling awful? If I go longer than a week it's a net detriment to me.

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No fap is a spiritual excersie.

    Fauthlets won't understand

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anotherwords no fap is a sci op, and jacking off like a sex crazed freak is also a sci op.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      jacking off a normal and healthy amount will obviously cause you to achieve a state of enlightenment. my testosterone has quintupled
      a month after i started jerking off twice a week.

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nofappers are the bottom of the barrel men. Men with healthy test levels and a good social life are able to go to work, talk to women, have sex and also have a wank as a part of the day without thinking about it. If you can't get it up for a real woman with missionary sex because you need to be shat on from watching so much degenerate porn then that is a personal problem. If you are touching your cock so many times a day that it stops you from being productive then that is another seperate problem. The fucking gall of 'men' in these threads to dare suggest a man who has a wank every now and again is an addict is unbelievable projection. Keep parading the same horseshit study about the test boost though.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Low IQ r selected take

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Less about nofap but noporn definitely made a huge difference for me.

    >less likely to get horny from random thots online
    >morning wood returned
    >desire to jack off to degenerate shit decreased dramatically

    Brainfog for me only got better after dopamine fasting, so not just nofap/noporn but also no electronic entertainment etc. Still a bit unsure about doing nofap for prolonged periods because even just 7+ days makes it feel weird when I finally bust.

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How are these threads allowed on IST?
    This shit isn't fitness related, it's just 4chan mental illness spreading to other boards.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck you moron.
      Just put the 4chan label on anything you disagree with.
      This is a self improvement board and NoFap absolutely belongs here.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This is a self improvement board
        No, it's a fucking fitness board, you stupid bitch.

        >NoFap absolutely belongs here
        How the FUCK does not touching your junk relate to FITNESS, you god damn monkey?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          masturbation ruins gains / porn causes brain damage

          sorry but those are the facts

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >source: my ass
            Not fitness related, 4chantard.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              whatever you say shlomo

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >DA JOOS WANT ME TO TOUCH ME JUNK, I CAN'T LET THEM WIN, THE VOICES IN THE WALLS TELL ME
                top jej

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                actually it's just one voice, God

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >le gawd telling me masturbation is le bad
                Aaaand we went full circle, it's just another 4chan zoomie larping as a christian.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >garden gnome spreading lies telling everyone they have to masturbate
                sorry, your tricks don't work like they used to

                in the end only truth prevails

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >your tricks won't work on me, I'm a schizoanon whose life is in shambles so as a cure I will not touch my mushroom tip
                >sponsored by god(tm)
                Kek, I guess I'll drink myself to death now.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i really hope you do

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >b-b-buh it's about fitness
                >okay source now
                >my source is gawd (dog)
                top jej
                The eternal 4chancuck.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                you want a source? source my fucking balls gay

                (but don't make me cum im on a roll)

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nofap 4chancuck is gay
                sasuga

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                how much do you want my cum bro

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                About as much as ur mum wanted mine last night

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't listen to the moron garden gnome.
    > porn is not healthy
    > masturbation is not healthy
    > 'use it or lose it' is a meme
    > retention only sharpens the brains because the nutrients get absorbed back into the body
    > it takes a very heavy toll on the body to produce semen, each drop has billions of sperm
    > the body reserves the highest quality nutrients to produce semen
    > don't waste it haphazardly

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it takes a very heavy toll on the body to produce semen, each drop has billions of sperm
      Sperm gets made non stop whether you coom or not

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I get more confident when on nofap, but I recently managed to sleep with a qt and came in less than 30 seconds. Don't know how to manage these contradicting issues

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      men are actually designed on purpose to nut fast so dont worry about it

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope.
        You're just shit at sex and your babydick shoots too quick.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whenever someone writes "cope" at something its a young dumb immature zoomer that is lacking in understanding of the world. But he is in a developmental state where saying "the hard truth" is commendable to his peers. Thus he will take every opportunity to call someone out for trying to sugar coat something that is uncomfortable or not pretty to talk to talk about and he feels like good about him self for not being a pussy and just "saying it how it is."

          This is peak zoomer internet culture at the moment. But every time a zoomer don't know anything he calls COPE on it and he stops thinking about the subject. He chooses to try and be cool and edgy in the moment, over trying acquiring new information and broadening his horizons. This results in the zoomer being eternally stupid and never developing because when he encounters something he don't know ye yells COPE and then he stops thinking about it. The cope meme will result in zoomers despite being the most online generation yet with all humanities knowledge at hand will be the stupidest.

          https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/evolution-of-the-orgasm

          daptation can also explain the relative speed with which males achieve their bliss. Since the limiting factor in male reproductive success is usually the availability of receptive females, when said females make themselves available, a guy who can work fast has a distinct advantage over the slow male. He begets more kids, for one, and he is also less likely to fall prey to enemies that might attack while a couple is flagrante delicto. Furthermore, the less time it takes to philander, the more time there is to eat--another essential component of survival.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody with an iq over 80 says "cope" online.

            The whole point of the "ad hominem" fallacy is that you're attacking the individual rather than the argument, that goes out the window when they say "cope" and they don't even understand how it's a fallacy.

            The morons that use this word that way are like a parody of retardation in arguments. Brain dead.

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >YOUR ~~*study*~~ is gnomish!!
    >no, YOUR ~~*study*~~ is gnomish!!!
    >Everything I disagree with is written by a garden gnome!!!!
    >No u shlomo bergstein JIDF!
    >No YOU'RE the shekelberg yid rabbi!!!!
    >REEEEEEEEE
    >REEEEEEEEE
    Lowest IQ threads on all of IST. Go back

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do not understand the thought process masturbation abstinance.

    If its getting to be a problem and it consumes your thoughts sure, you might wanna ease up and get a hobby.

    I have many things to occupy my time, work and hobbies, i'm also in a non-monogamous coupling with a few people, so sex if still pretty regular maybe 1-3x a week.

    I masturbate about twice every day but at least once, and always have.

    It's not something that's ever hindered any aspect of my life, and in fact, abstaining has only caused me problems with things like fluid build-up in the testes, which is fucking painful.

    If you're experiencing metal fogginess nothing sorts me out better than a quick tug. Then i'm ready to go.

    Abstainers are the mirror of coomers. Neither have true self-control

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    > no coom for 10 days
    > erections get bigger
    > measure cock
    > 7x6.7

    I'm sure the cardio helped but bros this looks intimidating even to me. Like a meat cannon

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uhhh...
    Just have sex and don't watch porn?
    Just. Have. Sex.

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I literally don't understand how porn and jerking off can ruin people's days or lives. If anything is going to ruin your life, its IST

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If anything is going to ruin your life, its IST
      how so?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you feel better after masturbating by all means do it

      but keep it to yourself. honestly

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Idk about porn but masturbation increases gains. Testosterone and other hormones released after tells the body you're an alpha and you naturally begin to act like it over time(assuming you are not defective). There are no great men who abstained from sex. Just a gaggle of nerds and monks that wasted their lives writing down a bunch of words.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There are no great men who abstained from sex
      >Tesla
      >Da vinci
      >Mike Tyson

      shut the fuck up, garden gnome

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mike Tyson had multiple wives and the other two you named are not great men. Just nerds or monks who wasted their lives writing down words. I am sick of your gnomish lies leading men astray and weakening society. Just fucking have a nice day already.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          He rose to greatness on winning streaks powered by celibacy
          No great man becomes great also masturbates

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            He was snorting coke and having gangbangs with hookers before his fights lmao, what the fuck are you on about. He's just a moron after all.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >t. retarded 16 year old speaking out of his ass

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                He said that in several interviews. He would get fucked up and have wild sex to get his stress out.
                It's only now that he's acting like he's some sort of humble retarded pilgrim lmao.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                nothing but cope and conspiracy theories, yawn

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but don't be ridiculous. Tyson Fury said he would masturbate 7 times a day before a big fight. Masturbation frequency does NOT appreciably affect testosterone levels and especially not over the long-term.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tyson fury
                Your brain doesn't work, retard. You better cancel your porn subscriptions because it's clearly ruined your ability to follow a thread

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Of course I'm following the thread. You mentioned Mike Tyson, I mentioned Tyson Fury. You good man? Your lack of masturbation appears to be getting to your brain.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You got mixed up about the subject of our conversation and are coping about it
                Fury is irrelevant, and he will never reach the heights of Mike Tyson

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao, nice backpedalling

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Uh, enjoy your cooming then? Freak

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                reddit nofap oddballs ARE the creeps, lmao

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                and not the fap addicts of course

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Alright. You're messed up. Now fuck off.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mike Tyson Abstained From Sex For 5 Years During the Prime of His Career
                following the lead of the GOAT mohammad ali, who would go entire years celibate during his prime

                >Fury is irrelevant
                Yeah man, this is going into my retard compilation.

                dead sport, who gives a shit

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Fury is irrelevant
                Yeah man, this is going into my retard compilation.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Fury is irrelevant, and he will never reach the heights of Mike Tyson
                Please don't ever talk about boxing again.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                so what if fury is an inbred goblin who faps 7 times a day
                ali and tyson were the two famous examples of celibacy

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >mike is now a drug addicted nobody doing podcasts
                >fury is the gypsy king
                Masturbation-bros, why do we keep on winning so much?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The winning streaks probably had more to do with his training and genetics than obsessively talking about touching penises online with other men obsessed with talking about men talking about touching penises. The man was most certainly not celibate. He has eight kids ffs. Nofap is just a meme for low test men to feel like they are part of this big secret social club for losers.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The man was most certainly not celibate.
              He was for his fighting career, look it up this is common knowledge

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >dyel
        >fag dyel
        >moron
        Not looking good, anon.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >garden gnome
          >redditor
          >compulsive masturbator
          take a long look in the mirror there, gay

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It got me closer to God

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Based. I suppose the desperate cultists need to have something to feel pride in, so they decide to feel pride by not touching their dicks, lol.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's simply much easier to take pride in doing nothing. Actually doing things takes effort. Something these limpwrist nofap fruitcakes know nothing about.

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Y'all wanna see what porn does to your brain?

    [...]

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not really a secret that most German men are pedos

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are these thread always turning in a cesspool of hate against people who decide to quit porn and fapping and just look for advice on how to do it? Why are there always people defending porn and fapping like somebody is going to put a chastity cage on their dick and balls and cut off their internet. Fap as much as you want, nobody cares. But if you won't contribute with sound advice other than THERE'S NO PROOF THAT'S WORKING JUST TOUCH YOUR DICK LIKE US just pass on the thread and move along. If not anything else It can at least teach you some discipline and test your willpower.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the benefits of nofap are real. And theyre either coping and seething or are out right subversives trying to prevent others from experiencing said benefits.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its trannies and god knows who else trying to ridicule the idea because sexual abstinence becoming truly mainstream would hurt a lot of pockets

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I decided to stop fapping a week ago. Lost all my sexual desire since then. Only in the last day has it been coming back. What should I do? Should I do it once or twice a week to make sure it still works?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do whatever you want. Just stop watching porn and hentai.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. Helps you avoid wet dreams too.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most people already don't experience wet dreams because they're sick and unhealthy porn addicts

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When my mom passed away I went over a month without cooming. I didn't feel higher test or anything. But when I did eventually coom it was damn near cartoonish and I felt a lot better the next day.

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doing this only makes sense if you take the Jesus pill alongside it

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao research taken completely out of context and misunderstood by desperate incels.
    >tiny bump to testosterone over the course of a week
    >test then returns to normal
    hilarious and tragic irony that a bunch of desperate loner incels were tricked into depriving themselves of sexual gratification at their own hands (in addition to being deprived of sexual contact with anyone else), all in the pursuit of getting an unnoticeable bump in a hormone that has a wildly overexaggerated effect on build and mental health... which is just to say that it won't change your life at all if your problems stem from you having shit personality, shit coping habits for your mental health, zero emotional/social intelligence, antisocial behavior, and no direction in life. How about you guys work on those things, instead of embarking on an absurd and unscientific quest to bump up a random hormone?

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Noporn is better than nofap in my opinion.
    If you're not planning on getting a gf then who cares as long as it's not an addiction.
    The health benefits are so negligible that it's a joke

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    A literal reddit meme.

  58. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Exterminate all incels and NoFap will vanish.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      communism was cool before it was ever put into practice, but it's kinda fucked up how marxists are all trannies now

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you heard about the LTV, the main theory his economic philosophy rests on? He didn't even really care communism, he wrote mainly about capitalism and its faults and theorized a revolution will topple it, leading to communism, and that will fix everything.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then those retards went and did it and ended up starving millions. Socialism is for highschoolers

  59. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you are literally on IST trying to convice incels on roids to nof masturbate. not gonna work, they will bring all kind of excuses and cope lmao

  60. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Let me ask you a question: Are you literally wearing a kippah right now?

  61. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are beyond pathetic. Absolutely no real discussion takes place on either side, it's just a bunch of shitflinging and shaming of behaviours without any real points ever raised.
    If any of you talked about whether you do or don't masturbate in front of actually smart people instead of pseudos and midwits you'd be laughed out the fucking room. Just fuck off back to /LULZ/ already, discussion this low quality doesn't even have any place on a self improvement board let alone a fitness board

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >complains about lack of discussion
      >adds nothing but gratuitous insults and generalizations
      wew lad

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gee I wonder why. Maybe because the discussion in the current year is so under developed that it provides nothing of value to anyone with an IQ of over 100. You are not going to convince everyone to do X thing because "da jooz said not to" or "le test boost at 7 days / just trust me i tripled my test on 48742957 days nofap" so fuck off somewhere else

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          instead of shitting on everyone's opinion why don't you enlighten us with your own

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's the point? No matter what I say, whether for nofap or against, I'll just be called a rabbi/garden gnome/shlomo, a glowmoron, a cuck, a redditor, a coomer, an addict or any combination of the above

            If masturbation didn't negatively affect the endocrine systems of so many young men, then it wouldn't be relevant. But people ARE feeling negative consequences for their actions, and many simply haven't yet made the connection

            My actual opinion is that masturbation doesn't mean much and people who state either benefits or negatives of abstinence are always over selling it, porn is the problem and all the primary nofap resources say the same thing. Virtually everyone on the internet who isn't a poltard, christcuck or chastity cage fetishist agrees with me

            Good for you, anon. The problem is the rest of the nofap shills that preach it non stop.

            This

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >an appeal to popularity
              well, most people are born slaves, so i guess you understand who your target audience is

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for proving my point. Fuck this garbage board. Not wasting any more time in this thread

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Gotta go fap again? Already?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Coomer redditor, pleb

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          If masturbation didn't negatively affect the endocrine systems of so many young men, then it wouldn't be relevant. But people ARE feeling negative consequences for their actions, and many simply haven't yet made the connection

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >these threads are bad because no one discusses anything, I the middleman who never takes a stance on any issue am above everyone

      >complains about lack of discussion
      >adds nothing but gratuitous insults and generalizations
      wew lad

      >okay so discuss something

      Gee I wonder why. Maybe because the discussion in the current year is so under developed that it provides nothing of value to anyone with an IQ of over 100. You are not going to convince everyone to do X thing because "da jooz said not to" or "le test boost at 7 days / just trust me i tripled my test on 48742957 days nofap" so fuck off somewhere else

      >no, see, I don't have to it's everyone else's fault

  62. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stop lifting for months
    >fap every day
    >stop fapping
    >urge to lift rises, have a great workout
    >within two weeks set new PR despite being out of it for a long ass time previously
    Call it placebo, a "cult", whatever you fags want I don't give a fuck. For me it works and that's all that matters.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good for you, anon. The problem is the rest of the nofap shills that preach it non stop.

  63. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nofap works and thats a proven fact. Proven by the we the people

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's real
      it's real

      wtf it's real?

  64. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bruh just jack off during the weekends, and abstain during the workweek. Simple as that.

  65. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    nofap isn't sexual absistence fucking retard, it's just not jacking off and fucking women instead
    it's nofap, not nosex
    moron incel kys

  66. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My longest streak was 28 days when I was in my schools weightlifting team and the no fap meme first started.

    I was a lot more aggressive and I was able to channel this to my lifts. I was able to push myself slightly because I was really spent up. I have no knowledge of additional testosterone gains and I think it's entirely mental.

    If you are doing nofap for anything apart from (very commendable and pious) religious beliefs then you are a retard. If you want healthier sexual appetites no porn is the way to go. I wish I had better willpower for no fap since I'm Catholic and I keep trying but it really sucks. Women are beautiful.

  67. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    To be honest it probably partially explains how prison inmates get so jacked. Sure they work out a lot and being around other men 24/7 and competing and fight flight reaction is going to crank test production up but they aren’t all fags having buttsex that’s the minority most are celibate or jerking it pretty infrequently

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron are you fucking stupid? Prison inmates have access to porn magazines. Not only do they fap but they fuck each other as well and if you think fucking another man is "better" than jerking off you're a fucking gay

  68. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Porn is the problem, not masturbation.

  69. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are two kinds of people:

    People like me who don't fap because they think it's undignified

    People who need to look for some ~~*scientific*~~ reason in order to stop themselves from fapping like some kind of a weak gay.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I forgot:
      People who don't fap because of religious reasons. They are alright as well.

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