When I was dyel, all I really had was being vaguely smart so i'd go out of my way to intelligencemog people.
Now I'm in shape (nearly, anyway, postbodygays gtfo) I'd rather just stay silent and let my physique talk for me. Being a massive sperg, the less I talk the better.
Anyone else normiemaxxing?
>I'd rather just stay silent and let my physique talk for me
Same. But now I'm just boring
It's a fine line, anon. I'm hoping to cultivate a mysterious persona rather than a dull one. But being jacked makes you at least a curiosity by default, whether you cause seething or admiration
>cultivate a persona
actual cringe
I'm autistic, anon. What comes naturally to me is correcting people all the time and being an annoying know-it-all homosexual which people, rightfully so, don't like.
I'm trying to get rid of that, and being well-built now with a decent hairstyle helps because people make better assumptions about me now than when I was a chubby, styleless sperg.
based self aware sperg
Not OP, but, I wish the self awareness was also in the moment, rather than only post analysis, or not there at all.
I'm nearly 40 and I'm only just learning to control my autism. I think the rise in testosterone or general better health is making my mind sharper and helping me catch myself in time before I sperg out.
I’m convinced spergs are the people who would have been socially adept scholar athlete types like Gerald Ford who should be running things and just got absolutely nuked by bad nutrition and fast food and chemicals in the water. The autist gym warrior working on his social skills is basically just Chad reclaiming his birthright from the antichrist.
Boomer moron parents ("just be yourself anon!") and liberal schooling/media didn't help either.
probably kind of right. a square peg got smashed into a circle hole of mediocrity instead of having an actual support system to allow them to mature.
Not the nutrition but the society that is both anti manly and anti intelligent
In fact "nerd" is a new thing, it didn't used to even really exist, like you said the smart autistic people were also manly and successful
Just learn alot of about a specific part of a locomotives engine and go into extremely fine detail on the innovations needed to get it to where it is today.
Works better than roofies when talking to girls
>I'd rather just stay silent
Autism
Not completely silent, anon, but instead of voicing my genuine, usually vitrioloc opinion on things like politics, movies, etc, I try to give a vaguely positive platitude in reply.
That's all normies want, so I need to stop giving them anything else.
>I completely alter my personality to fit society and I call that a win
Look, either you legitimately are shitty to be around, in which case you need to *actually* change your attitude, or you should stop putting on a mask to fit into what you *think* is normal.
I know two guys who are almost 30 and haven't been laid in 10 years because they sincerely want to frick/be in relationship with a club bimbo yet they hate going out, hate drinking, hate social media, all of it and think that some 10/10 is just going to fall into their lap one day.
Yes, we all know marvel movies are shit and all politicians are liars, you aren't some enlightened person to realize that and nobody likes talking about it. Find something else to get into--even gayming--and do/talk about that. Do you know how many sexy females and bros I've met at gamer bars and K-pop concerts? And yes, being IST obviously helps with meeting these people what's not to like about a big guy recking ass at mario kart
>gamer bars and K-pop concerts
God as my witness one day all of you city dwellers will taste my shoe.
Jesus christ I missed that.
>gamer bars
>kpop concert
>mario kart
Fricking moron I'm not giving up anything.
Among fellow nerds I'm still a fricking turbo sperg because that's acceptable.
With fellow musicians I will sperg out about scales.
With fellow tt gamers I'll sperg out about miniatures.
When I go to cons I'll be dressed as he-man unironically and try bang nerdy slampigs.
But at work and other normie spaces, I'm reining myself the frick in because sperging out just makes normies feel awkward. They don't need to know the real me, and hiding it from them has only done me good, because being unusual among normies only alienates you.
You literally said you shut up because that's what they want, your words, not mine.
That's what you're giving up, you cannot talk about the things you'd like to in the presence of "normies".
In the past 10 years I've worked at three different places all with "normies" and I never had to shut up because my conversation pieces weren't "I hate israelites, how bout you?" If I didn't like a movie, I told them why. If I didn't like a bill that's being passed, I told them why. In all that time there was only ONE person who got asshurt at what I said because she got angry that I was having a conversation about a scientific discovery and didn't mention God anywhere. What did I do? Had the same conversation 10 ft down the hall.
You won't voice your genuine opinion because you're scared, and that's what strange about it. Either own up to your garbage opinions, realize why they suck and change them or stop being afraid of disliking Disney movies.
See its these people who will judge you for what you like, the normies you are "placating" are probably more interested in why you like something they've never heard of.
>See its these people who will judge you for what you like
I fail to see the problem with this.
The guy says he can't have conversation with normans because they would judge what he is and isn't interested in
I come on here, tell him he's missing out because he's shutting up, giving examples of things that may seem odd, but normies actually like
The exact people this guy is b***hing to about those who judge his interests, judges the interests of someone else
If you still don't get it, imagine going to an AA meeting, saying I'm a drunkard and I just need to come to a place where I can talk with people who won't drink and half the people there call you a b***h for not chugging a few on your way in.
Idgaf whether you like vidya or kpop or what your opinion of me is, I'm just pointing out the absurdity of the entire situation.
>You won't voice your genuine opinion because you're scared
I won't voice my genuine opinion because people roll their eyes and say "oh god, here he goes again."
I have a dual-major degree in creative writing and music and I have a couple of small-press sci fi novels published, anon, so when I complain about capeshit, I'm discussing /misc/tard talking points, i'm sperging out over objectively bad writing.
When I discuss music, I'm discussing music from a professional-standard musical ability. But normies don't want to hear about things in that much depth. They want to scratch the surface with a handful of platitudes then move on, where I can discuss a single bar of music or a single paragraph of script/prose for hours because I'm a sperg.
And I don't want my colleagues and acquaintences to regard me as "that boring guy who obsesses over pointless shit."
So, I'm learning to calibrate to ehatever company I'm with you absolute dipshit
>But normies don't want to hear about things in that much depth.
See here's where you're wrong. I've never spoken to someone who didn't want to hear actual criticism, especially something they liked. In fact, my former boss, a guy with a fricking business degree of all things discussed with me how much we didn't like the writing in the new star wars films. Better yet, a woman there who never watched star wars in her life picked up on it and after a while went and watched the three originals because she became interested in what we were saying.
Reading what you're writing, I can tell that you just aren't having good conversations. I cannot stand most of the marvel movies, but if someone asks, my response isn't "Pft, that capeshit nonsense?" I'll talk about how the ridiculous inconsistencies in antman make it to where I can't watch it seriously and we have a laugh at it, then in the same convo talk about how I'm gonna rewatch clockwork orange while high one day.
>I calibrate my conversation
No you don't because calibration requires observation and thinking. Calibrating a conversation is talking about how magnetism is cool with the lab tech and then discussing the research projects details with the lead researcher.
>you absolute dipshit
there you go. you cannot talk to someone you disagree with without calling whatever it is you're talking about or whoever you're talking to shit. Fix your attitude *about* the subjects, don't just leave out things that interest you of your everyday conversation and you won't have wear a mask or shut your mouth anymore
>lab tech
>lead researcher
Dude I work in a fricking big box retailer, there's no-one there over 90iq you fricking moron. You don't work with normies, you work with scienceBlack folk who DO appreciate depth and detail.
I work with sportsball morons, instagram addicts and capeshit soigays.
So yes, calibrating is exactly what I'm doing.
You, however work in a very unusual environment and have no idea how vapid and shallow "normal" people are.
Left in pic rel doesn't exist anymore it's an extinct and fictional archetype. Everyone who thinks they are literally him are projecting fat and ugly
u mad
Probably*
I'm not, it's just something that doesn't apply to people anymore. Anyone who would have been a white greensboro football chad is now in their 40's and 50's & the zoomers who constitute this board could absolutely never
>zoomers who constitute this board could absolutely never
Surely there are some zoom chads out there?
yea u mad
H
Frick you Black person
I graduated about ten years ago so not a zoomer but back then there were 100% still white football chads even at a majority black public school.
They are both literally stereotypes, anon.
I used that as an example cos I wanna be more positive and say far less.
I'm normally "that turbo cynic who talls too much" which I'm trying to shed.
based. good luck on your mindset shift. its harder than physical exercise
Changing your mindset doesn't get your dick wet.
I'm the legendary ass worshipping whiskey drinking 2/3
You would find these guys if you went outside. Trust me, that's what I did.
Need to find someone to frick your wife for you?
If only 🙁
People like that do in fact exist. And there are all flavors of high school handegg chad. There are guys like pic, there are corn fed farm chads, party time burn-out-after-highschool chads there are successful smart all-around chads, Richie rich chads, nice guy chads etc.
>Everyone who thinks they are literally him
the pic was made by a guy that looks like the one on the right to needle other guys that look like the one on the right.
no one on IST legitimately thinks they are a chad.
there's probably even a couple of guys that would be a chad but are riddled with dysmorphia or some shit and don't see themselves as that.
don’t tell a lot of these guys that. They have some fantasy that somehow they’re going to have a son like left pic, because somehow they’re special despite not being aryan chads their genetics will spontaneously summon a chad son
Have you ever been to college?
Me and the lads hit the gym 3 days a week, play basketball and soccer during the day, so we all have great bodies. Then every evening we go get shitfaced at the club or at a dorm party.
You would be surprised how horny college girls are. When you're at a party, get them drunk, go to bathroom and you're guaranteed a bj at least bro. Especially med school girls after exam celebrations.
You pull literal 8/10s + every week. Not as GFs tho, usually we act like we don't know each other the next day.
Just drink a sports drink before you go to sleep and you'll be fresh the next morning.
Oh, and studying? We just cheat on every test and exam. There's always a way 😀
And since we don't live in a third world shithole, college is not only free, we get paid to go.
We just show up to classes high as frick and play games on our phones.
My friend at the gym got me into IST because he kept sending me memes from here :D. I don't like any other board, nor do I like the racism and misogny, but that's only the losers here, a lot of you are cool af.
Hit the weights, go to school and live the life baby!!!
Lots of effort for a larp
you probably live in la or other gay ridden city
For example, When a normie asks
>OMG anon have you seen the newest Disneymarvelstarwars bullshit?
I used to reply "no, because only morons watch that shit and I don't waste my money on those shitty streaming services."
Now I would reply "oh, no, I haven't I just never seem to have time to watch tv hahaha it looks pretty good though!"
I basically don't feel the need to tell normies that I think i'm better than them any more. They can see themselves that I am, and they either find that admirable, or they seethe. Both of which I enjoy.
>nope i just have no interest
What's wrong with just saying this?
>oh I guess it's not what he's into. anon, do you like x, y, z, etc...
>nope i just have no interest
"Why not anon? It's amazing! You don't have a NEGATIVE OPINION on the media I consume do you?"
You're still judging them, anon. Normies assume that anyone who doesn't do the same thing as everyone else is weird and to be shunned.
>oh I guess it's not what he's into. anon, do you like x, y, z, etc...
Only fellow autists have other interests anon.
You're either a sportsballnormie or a marvel normie. No other types of normie men exist under 40 any more.
With fellow autists I'll sperg out, but with normies, I'm learning to camouflage my autism. It makes life much more bearable.
Imagine being this much of an autist
You don't have to imagine, anon, it sounds like you already are.
Why do you care? Serious question, what drives you to find out whether you are "better than" someone else?
I care because it makes life easier and makes you a more popular person which opens up countless doors.
Being an opinionated know it all sperg has held me back more times than I dare count.
I'm naturally competitive anon, I need to beat people at things. That's why I was such an insufferable homosexual before, i had to correct people constantly to iqmog them.
Now I can just physically mog them in silence which is socially acceptible, or fellow ISTbros just accept me as a peer.
Iq mogging is pointless because intelligence isn't genuinely respected anyway unless you're in a high iq social/professional circle, which I'm not, nor do I want to be because I myself find iqgays unbearable
Related advice is to just be more positive. Say more positive things than negative, it makes people like you more.
A more succinct way to put it, yep.
The real chad move is to say
>No. Tell me what you liked about it.
Then, if you need to later, you can just regurgitate their answer if you need to pretend you've seen it.
>I don't waste my money on those shitty streaming services.
I hope none of you actually say this irl.
I used to, that's the point.
I hate them so passionately and have such a low opinion of people that actually pay for them that I couldn't keep my autistic mouth shut.
I'm training myself to not automatically try convince people not to pay for primeflixney+ and instead just reply with vagiely positive platitudes so I don't constantly alienate myself in normie social circles.
With other autists I let rip, but at work and among family etc all I do is get a reputation as an opinionated know-it-all
I know what you mean. For a while my whole personality was "le epic stoic anime protagonist", nowadays I try to sociablemaxx. Learning how to shoot the shit will get you through 95% of social situations. All the autistic little games to reframe your personality is just schizophrenia imo.
Same pretty much. A few positive platitudes is all you need with normies.
Actual opinions and genuine passion for anything is repellant to them, they can't understand actually loving anything
I wish I wasn't self-aware.
And I don't mean that good side of being self-aware, but literally crippling, and I mean crippling levels of self-awareness of every little miniscule detail. When I interact with someone I over analyze that interaction to the smallest possible detail afterwards, small talk is almost impossible to me because of it. I am aware of the speed I am talking, the posture I am holding, the tone I am expressing, the eye contact I am holding, the body language I am expressing, my brain is literally working on overdrive 110% every single time and as soon as I do something "wrong" in any of these things I feel like I did something terribly wrong. Every single second feels like an hour and I am constantly in fight or flight mode. And later I deconstruct that same interaction for weeks and months to no end.
I want to erase that, to just be able not to think about any of that and not act manually. To be able to just talk about the weather or something dumb like that without thinking much about it.
Read/Listen to the Majhima Nikaya
Felt that in my bones, anon. Literally me up until my mid 30s.
How old are you?
What stage of health?
It gets better with age and improvement of health.
>How old are you?
28
>What stage of health?
Physical health very good. In the best shape of my life, lift and eat better than anyone around me, sleep 8 hours almost every single day without any interruption.
But the stress puts a serious toll on my health I can feel it those days
you can notice but just stop caring. You are gonna make it, but you're not gonna make it by freaking out over every eye movement. Just be the chad that you know you are
Absolutely based advice
You sound in a great place, anon, great age, great health.
Just pretend not to give a frick.
Eventually you actually won't.
this is true
i still feel a lot like you do and it takes a while to condition yourself to realize you will still analyze that stuff, but to be aware that other people dont notice. try to focus on the other person in the conversation. your hyperawareness could actually make you a very good communicator if you learn to gauge how the other party is responding to the conversation. good luck
Start meditating
You are obviously insecure about everything you (don't) have going for you. Get some real achievements to your name and then report back
What counts as a "real achievement"?
Something you're proud of
I'm proud of getting a lot of anons calling me based this one time
NTA, but I have real achievements. They don't help.
Drugs.
Every other posters ~~*advice*~~ will just make it worse or is simply not related in any way, a platitude if you will.
drugs will hurt you
just imagine the song from the sigma male grindset memes playing in your head or the pepe with the champagne glass anytime you do something
>suggests drugs
>puts "advice" in israelite brackets.
Anyone who uses drugs to deal with their issues is a homosexual signing themselves up to be a junkie, utterly dependent on israeli pharma.
Diet, exercise and adjustments to your mental attitude fix everything.
>Mentality jerk off and gaslight yourself instead of doing something that actually works
All it takes for anon(a man) to get better is a day on mdma and grinding on chicks and you tell him to suffer and get worse by engaging in womanly mental gymnastics.
You do deserve the israelite brackets you israelites.
suck mein dick homosexual
drugs are cool and you are not. simple as
I promise you I'll do whatever drug I can to fix this issue, I'm not the guy who you responded to but I have the same exact issue. WTF do I take?
Phenibut
You are autistic
Alejandro?
“just shave it bro”
It's called being neurotic, not self-aware
How do you not do that anymore
I’ve noticed this during conversations where I am uninterested in the subject at hand. If it’s boring I start to just look at the persons facial expressions instead of what they’re saying but If I’m interested I just continue as if nothing is happening
>And I don't mean that good side of being self-aware, but literally crippling, and I mean crippling levels of self-awareness of every little miniscule detail. When I interact with someone I over analyze that interaction to the smallest possible detail afterwards, small talk is almost impossible to me because of it. I am aware of the speed I am talking, the posture I am holding, the tone I am expressing, the eye contact I am holding, the body language I am expressing, my brain is literally working on overdrive 110% every single time and as soon as I do something "wrong" in any of these things I feel like I did something terribly wrong. Every single second feels like an hour and I am constantly in fight or flight mode. And later I deconstruct that same interaction for weeks and months to no end.
Pinning Test fixed this for me.
You realize this isn't self awareness, its literally you drowning in your own hypercriticism.
Self awareness is being aware of how you come off to others. You can bootstrap confidence by deluding yourself into thinking your confident. Literally fake it till you make it.
>I'd rather just stay silent and let my physique talk for me.
too bad physiques don't talk you absolute autist, your mouth and lungs and shit talk
I know this isn't what you meant but come on now. Nobody is gonna have a conversation with your physique. just talk to people
>can't make his muscles talk
Try flexing in mirror until your muscles learn to speak.
based
cool, another autist. You think you're going to nonverbally have conversations with people? That this is the path to being a normie? IST autists think that getting ripped will change things but getting IST doesn't fix your autism, you'll just now be in good shape.
If they knew all they had to do was just socialize we wouldn't have so many threads about fricking women and shit. pathetic
A; demonstrably untrue. Lifting, raising testosterone and a better diet and lower bf% absolutely improve autism symptoms, and
B; being a demoralising negative homosexual is such an alpha chad move, anon, please teach me more sempai
>bsolutely improve autism symptoms, and
oh yeah for sure, just a lot of guys on here seem to think that getting fit will cure their socialization woes when it will only help. being fit is part of being a well balanced person but there are fat frick normies too. not saying you should be fat btw. That should be clear but people seem to be pretty illiterate and unable to properly grasp the English language these days.
>B; being a demoralising negative homosexual is such an alpha chad move, anon, please teach me more sempai
Dude. Reading comprehension. I don't even see what's demoralizing about saying that the main thing to becoming better socialized is to socialize more. If anything I'd assume that would be a bit of a whitepill. You don't need to lift for many years, you don't need to be ripped or have a 3pl8 bench, you just need to talk to normies and interact with them more. Seems pretty easy to me.
>too bad physiques don't talk you absolute autist, your mouth and lungs and shit talk
Jesus christ, being this autistic thinking all communication is verbal
This meme cracks me up every time. Went through that phase at 15, then i grew like 7 inches.
And now you're 5'8? Congrats anon.
Butthurt manlet
test
I can't frick because I have genital warts
I can't drink because I have fatty liver
I can't play football because I have no friends
That pic is too much for the incrls of this site. Watch out for yourself
I normiemaxxed long ago
>jestermaxxed
>fashionmaxxed
>lyingmaxxed
Aka. I learned how to talk to other people you sperg
Where do these shitty memes that seem like an ai made them keep coming from?
Thanks OP, I was looking for this image but it was impossie to find just by typing out the text
in professional life, literally just be polite and agreeable, people love that shit, especially if theyre in a superior position and like getting their ass kissed
in social situations, keep your autistic negativity at bay and just be positive about everything the other person says if possible, ask them questions and keep eye contact
there, I solved your issues
>normiemaxxing
Accept any social shit you get invited to. If you have no idea what the frick it is they're talking about or have no knowledge of whatever the subject is, just ask a couple questions
>Anon you don't know what x is...really?
I have literally no idea what x is, give me a rundown
Everyone loves to flex their knowledge
>What do you do, if not y?
I really like z so I autistically read about it, did you know (some fact you think about z you think is cool)? Anyway, how do you even get into y?
You can normiemaxx but you'll always be an autist, and will always have the problems that come with it.
I tried drinking, approaching girls, going to the gym, going to concerts. Nothing changed I'm just more socially anxious
just be boring, ultimate normie
Being boring is normie death. Just like being too quiet.
He means it in the "boring to the robots" way
Omg that pic is literally me (on the right)
You were not intelligent, you were just told you were intelligent the whole time instead of being fostered a growth mindset. The silver tongue beats a golden body any day of the fricking week.
You are intelligent, but you simply haven't learned the kneepads order of the current world.
The truth is that the red pill is a cope for people who will never be the guy on the left. The guy on the left just is like that, so he can do things like drink once a week and watch football and frick women and still look better than the guy on the right.
The guy on the right has to be red pilled, because if he isn’t, he will lose. Every time.
He's like that because normies run on instinct. Nothing is conscious to them.
Not a slight on them, that's just how normal people are.
Autists either don't have instincts or their conscious overrides them every time.
And, with poor understanding from the shitty majority-liberal system around us, we don't know the unwritten subconscious rules of society, so we take all our teachers' and parents' moronic, cowardly, people-pleasing, "just be yourself", advice at face value because we are children and know no better.
Then, we become adults and realise we've been lied to our entire lives and have to unlearn everything.
This is what separating your warriors and your scholars does to a mf.
bros help me out here I literally cannot get words out of my mouth when I really want to talk to someone but when I do get the slight courage to talk it's always something stupid and i'm shut down and I go back to being quiet