Obesity is about to be solved. Guys who browse IST are like chess players right before computers took over.
Obesity is about to be solved. Guys who browse?
Obesity is about to be solved. Guys who browse IST are like chess players right before computers took over.
i was just going to buy less slop, but this seems like the better option.
You will still be weak and unhealthy.
Proof?
you don't need proof for such a simple matter, just basic logic.
Obese people are deficient in almost all basic micronutrients. Shit from nacsonald is mainly causing obesity not because of calories, but because it's just empty calories. Their body craves those nutrients and is eager to eat anything to fill the deficiencies.
Now you take a drug that stops those cravings. But the underlying issue isn't solved. Those obese imbecilities will get lean. but will be getting sick, will have constant anxiety, will have a brain fog etc.
It's a truly pathetic life.
No gains to be had by cheating. Losing fat by gaining muscle is the way.
Anyone who thought the obesity epidemic was going to be solved by personal accountability and restraint on a mass scale, as opposed to pharmacology, is an absolute fool.
It should've been solved by banning Big Ag and most of the food industry
It was your government that pushed such stupid ideas.
Why mine
I'm not american but I've had to suffer with their shit choices as they rule my country too
FAT TAX
tax grease into oblivion. 1% of calories from fat above 15% in given food item should mean 100% additional tax
12% fat 2$
16% fat 4$
20% fat 22$
problem solved.
oh and legalize all drugs and make them cheap. some of them might kill some people but at least they will have some fun and will remain looking human and not lard golems. oh and make illegal fat trade felony punished severely
>eating fat makes you fat!!!
>let's slap a huge tax on olives, nuts, eggs, meat, and butter!!!
>meanwhile slop like soda, candy, and cereal (a low fat food-t. basedbergstein) goes untaxed
absolutely fucking retarded approach
Yeah it should be sugar tax or mandatory physicals and your burden on society can be measured that way.
just tax everything through the roof, make groceries barely affordable unless you work 60+ hours a week and darwinism will take care of it
eggs butter olives and fatty meat are all deadly trash. they make you fat and kill you. aoda is not even nearly half as bad. grains are fine you ketoschizo.
We solved smoking that way, though.
Smoking isn’t something that you eventually have to do again to survive.
Not really, vaping and nicotine gum is what replaced the traditional fire to plant. And in places like Colorado and California weed is cheaper than tobacco and despite what pot heads say, carry the exact same cancer risks especially second hand.
>weed is cheaper than tobacco and despite what pot heads say, carry the exact same cancer risks especially second hand.
source?
My friends wife gets a months supply of weed for around 40 bucks from a local shop. If you want candy or that stuff it gets more expensive, but just getting the buds is super affordable.
people who take ozempic get fucked up faces from the rapid weight loss.
People's brains are going to start noticing Ozempic face once the drug becomes widespread.
lets see some ozempic faces
>tldr there is such high demand for this drug they have to make shit up to slow the demand
That is every former fat. Kevin smith, Penn Jillette, Jonah Hill, Jim Norton, Al Roker, there is not one former fat that doesn’t have a fucked up face unless they had plastic surgery. The fat guy from my name is earl is on gear so he has T neck now.
It's not specific to ozempic, it's what happens to anyone losing weight fast. Even people who do crash diets or OMAD will end up with those face problems
Adipose tissue is stored on the face. "Ozempic Face" is just the natural emaciation that comes with fat-loss.
This happens to anyone who loses weight. People just aren’t used to seeing grown adults lose weight.
Fatties who lose weight often end up with that pencil neck. If they train neck they would look normal.
Look at all the NFL offensive lineman who drop 100 pounds after retiring. They look normal because they have muscle.
>doesn't realize that there are guys on /fit that aren't trying to lose fat.
>Stops taking Ozempic
>Regain weight because you didn't build discipline and healthy eating habits
Many such future cases
Maybe, or maybe they need the reset. Sometimes that’s all it takes and they are able to keep it going. If not oh well, hop back on. That is what it takes to be IST in current year. The arms race is only going to speed up from here. Enjoy stoically spinning in circles.
my father does liposuction. This happens more often than not. fat people will not fix their eating habits just because the fat has been magically removed
Most fat people already rebound eventually after losing weight the "right" way, often times passing their previous max. The thing is that people who start at a healthy weight / body composition don't put any thought or effort/discipline into their eating habits at all, it literally just comes naturally to them. Fats and ex-fats have to expend mental energy to lose or maintain weight, and once they focus on something else in life the weight comes back again
>Fats and ex-fats have to expend mental energy to lose or maintain weight, and once they focus on something else in life the weight comes back again
Only true temporarily. I had to actively monitor my eating for maybe two more years after losing the weight (went from BMI 34 to 22), after that, I had developed healthy habits, so I don't have to actively think about what I eat anymore and still don't get fat (simply because I don't like the shit I used to eat back then anymore - soda, for example, is repulsive to me nowadays). Ironically, I'm practicing the intuitive eating fatties are always proposing, but of course, this only works once you've developed proper habits.
enjoy extreme lean mass losses and gaining twice what you lost weeks after stopping it
Like I said in the other thread, if you are gonna pin this might as well pin some test too. No big deal.
thats the plan
Doesn't this stuff make you have oily liquid shits that you can't hold in?
nah, thats orlistat
Drugs are not a permanent solution they are a band-aid fix for a very sick society
I’ve lost 50 lbs on Mounjaro but also I was a prediabetic Fattie
My dad takes that shit for his diabetes and he looks worse than ever. Lost all of his muscle. Its trash.
Those meds are fucking retarded. People (specially women) will just take it and keep eating trash. Even if the meds work, they will have loose skin due to zero exercise and close to zero muscle (because thats the point of these meds, an easy way out for lazy people) you can shove that shit where the sun doesnt shine
ur fat is what builds bones & height btw
Is that your bone marrow and growth plates? What does fat have do with it?
fat stresses bone and causes it to stretch and reinforce over time
a fat person is constantly stressing their bones, and sleep is healing them
But then they lose a foot to beetus then height doesn’t mean so much. Lifting and stretching made me taller so just do that.
it's possible to be healthy and fat
be active, eat a lot, take good supplements and drink plenty of water
>healthy and fat
Oxymoron. Maybe you think 20% is fat but you sound like you mean obese.
if i can do 50 jumping jacks @300lbs and feel great without any strain on my legs I think I'm fundamentally healthy
Kek.
nothing funny ab a 300lbs tank standing next 2 u
Im 220lbs of lean muscle and you’re a sack of jello.
fat is pretty similar to muscle, it still empowers the real strength of the human body (bone)
mass is mass, retard
You should grow a spine and lose weight since fat is so good for bones. That is, if your spine doesn’t grind to dust first.
why lose weight? so women are less intimidated? so men feel like they can challenge me easily?
i'm only going to transfer some of my fat to muscle eventually, that's the only option I have
I have to be a boxer to justify my brain & body otherwise I will be forever dysmorphic
Because you look like shit and are unhealthy.
i am v healthy
i look like someone u don't want on ur bad side
fat empowers bones
i can do 20 pushups (probably 30 now) at 300lbs
eventually I'll lose some fat and put on more muscle when I take lifting seriously
I know what I'm doing, and u can keep being retarded and I'll laugh at ur suicide
Cope on lardo.
>fat empowers bones
U wot m8? Where'd you get that from?
>I know what I'm doing
picrel.
fat stresses ur skeletel system and forces it to build
try running a mile at 300lbs, i did it in 5 minutes
Anyone can try to do anything in 5 minutes, fatty. The difference is if you can actually do it
i did
i also did a mile farmer's walk with 160lbs
keep denying my physical superioty, irl u would be nodding
At your early grave, sure.
i live a very difficult life
women swarm me, men want to challenge me
my options are being a tank nobody wants 2 mess with, or isolating in my bedroom
which do u think i'm gonna work 4?
I think you should work for not being fat.
then I can't leave the house, because I've been slimmer before and it's only nerve racking outside my house
i need people to physically respect me at all times, every single second
Jesus Christ anon. Go read the sticky.
ur not clever, ur really ugly
Oh it’s Kam. He will never love you.
good, I want people to leave me alone
I want to move to vegas, get some black bros to watch my back as I save the world from impending destruction
No you didn’t btw.
>mass is mass
Fat doesn't move weight. Kinetic energy =/= potential energy
This is not good for you. No I don't have a source. Take it and you will regret it later
For all the gays that barely passed high school here opining on the usefulness of the drug, eat a bag of dicks and then jump off a bridge
It's potentially a revolution, there's tens of millions of people who would be walking around 10-50lbs lighter if they hadn't put on the weight during stressful periods in their lives and never managed to lose it again. The drug would help them do that. We need to get the price down and get insurance to cover it for non-diabetes or pre-diabetes use, and we could see huge improvements on population level BMI.
>insurance coverage
Fucking bullshit.
surely you do realize that fatty losing weight is a great investment for insurence company even if they have to pay for the drug? being fat comes with enormous health risks so ozempic actually ends up being very cheap solution to very expensive problem
It causes other health issues and they will just regain. It’s just adding another expense on hard working people unnecessarily.
isn't making money off fat people the fundamental goal of american healthcare?
>We need to get the price down
Show portfolio. Pharma fags are transparent af.
Pharma should be kicked out of lobbying in favour of natural selection imho.
I don't give a fuck about your disgusting consumerist pharmacological supported existence you DISGUSTING. CONSUMER, SYNTHETIC FAT FUCK.
t. fat cunt
Hope you have a heart attack
>e-diab
no one ever got fatter because of stress. It's a coping mechanism at most, but not stress.
I am the dude spamming pro ozempic whenever it gets talked about and I have no idea why you needed to make another fucking thread.
Keep in mind that the subjects who responded most favorably to Semaglutide already far exceeded 30BMI. I doubt it could be used for someone who is on a cut.
So what is the actual downside of this?
expensive. concerns about it being pushed on people for their lifestyle choices (lol). long-term side effects not well understood when diabetes isn't a concern, e.g. desensitization causing overeating when no longer taking semaglutide.
Really minor concerns in my opinion.
I think in the near future it's gonna be like creatine for lifting. Yea it costs a bit and you have to take it regularly, but it's a no-brainer if you want to maximize gains. This will be creatine for weight loss.
Then why is this allowed to shill as a ''no risks'' drug, but modern safe anabolic steroids are still considered dangerous and illegal?
There are plenty of oral steroids you can take today, with the same bioavailability as injected tren, with no side effects, but people still say it's a death sentence and bad for you
Why the double standard?
>
There are plenty of oral steroids you can take today, with the same bioavailability as injected tren, with no side effects
The fuck are you talking about
>There are plenty of oral steroids you can take today, with the same bioavailability as injected tren, with no side effects, but people still say it's a death sentence and bad for you
no
pancreatic cancer
>source trust me
Yet people still play chess competitively, curious..
oh yeah time for them to take the easy way out and not learn anything aka they'll be on this for life
there still will be natty leanies. we might be seen as some sort of health naturalistic hipsters tho... after 20 years people will wake up cause it turns out it causes some sort of long term damage or borth defects or whatever. that is assuming it will get popular for lonher time...
What is the point if you never learn good habits? They will regain the weight for the same reason people who crash diet do. The good thing about weight loss taking time is that it gives you the ability to solidify your good habits for long-term maintenance. Unless you are losing weight with discipline and fixing your habits, the weight loss is temporary.
just keep it taking it forever
people who use ozempic to lose weight gain it all back when they cease use of it because they never treated the actual issue - willpower and addiction.
Does this help with binge eating problems? I do not want to end up with dentures and throat cancer
i just can't with u
it's really such a turn off
Shoo shoo.
Most of the people on here who are butt hurt about this are upset that lazy/undisciplined fatties get an easy way to lose weight, whilst they have had to work hard on diet and exercise. It also increases competition - fat people are (probably appropriately) discriminated in fields like dating and employment. So if a bunch of fatties suddenly lose weight and look more attractive, there are more people to compete for promotions or dating.
Personally I don't really give a fuck, but as I'm in the UK, it will reduce the healthcare burden as this drug is cheaper than the medical costs of obese people
Like everyone has mentioned when you lose weight quickly without muscle gain you just look like a meth head so no.
>it will reduce the healthcare burden
chuds via Tavistock m8.
>it will reduce the healthcare burden as this drug is cheaper than the medical costs of obese people
No, the NHS will just find a way to be too expensive either way.
But obesity has been solved for millenia. It's called "fork putdowns".
LMAO USA is killing itself.
>search Ozempic
>find a reddit about it
>people post pictures of their transformations
>its 90% women
apparently staying fit was too hard for women, as in literally all they have to do is not overeat and get a little bit of cardio
but now they have a magic pill that will make sure they stay fit without putting in any effort at all
no doubt these women still expect men to be ripped
They dont even need cardio. My sister eats at maintenance and shes still a twig at 30. A woman should eat 1500kcal a day max.
>now they have a magic pill
Nothing new mate. They had one for morning sickness too. It was called Thalidomide.
just don't eat bro, plus ozempic face is a thing
Now that injectable meds are de-stigmatized, i am happy that people won’t be jealous when people do steroids
>another miracle cure
Alright lads, bets on what it does
Me? I'm half-and-halfing deformed infants by 2026 and breast cancer.
I’m on this drug and post in /fat/ as a fake natty. I read people struggling and then post about how effortlessly I lose weight now. I see why roidfags pretend to be natty. It really is best of both worlds.
You can’t fake a healthy lifestyle and anyone who would spend any amount of time around you would notice.
Easier than you think.
I started Ozempic and TRT 6 weeks ago. I'm in my mid 40's, have a based GP who used to be a pro athlete. He said most GPs wouldn't give me TRT, but my test was on the low side and I'm done with kids. Shit is magic, never hungry and I feel great. Down 6kg in 5 weeks.
It really does work, but the problem is that it makes you lose way too much muscle mass. It's just not worth taking unless you are very morbidly obese, and even then it would be better to just diet your way down.
Imagine stabbing yourself with Big Pharma juice just because you have no self control.