Obesity is not a disease of willpower

Over 40% of the US is affected, not because they're not motivated enough or they lack willpower, but because it's truly a disease

It's not about willpower, it's about whether you are fat in your teenage years, which mostly depends on your mom's eating habits.

Dramatic change compared to your teenage years' weight is almost impossible, no matter whether you want to gain weight or lose weight.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >which mostly depends on your mom's eating habits.
    >no mention of a father
    You'll lose weight if stop eating all that fried chicken, Da'quan.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally based on what your mom ate while you were in the womb

      And moms usually prepare and cook all the food in a household

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good thing my wife ate nothing but steak, eggs, salmon and watermelon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/yoi8HV0.jpg

        Over 40% of the US is affected, not because they're not motivated enough or they lack willpower, but because it's truly a disease

        It's not about willpower, it's about whether you are fat in your teenage years, which mostly depends on your mom's eating habits.

        Dramatic change compared to your teenage years' weight is almost impossible, no matter whether you want to gain weight or lose weight.

        Yes that's right if you ate less you'd still be fat. Despite people dying of starvation for millions of years we've finally unlocked the secret to derive energy from nothing, thus remaining fat

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is no excuse to just continue doing what isn't working
    you can always make a positive change
    you can always improve
    your past does not have to determine your future
    make the adult decision, stop being fat

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes -- Wise argument. Just like if you put your hand on a hot stove, it is your choice whether to remove it or tolerate the heat. Entirely up to you. Simple mind over matter.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ah yes my hand is burning and body is failing let me keep my hand here and my McDonald's in my veins otherwise I'd have to choose to remove it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why yes, I will eat three double quarter pounders and two large colas for every meal, how did you know.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, it’s the diet.

    Yeah if your diet in childhood is shit, it will be harder to fix later. And some permanent damage is done. But the bigger, the biggest issue of obesity is that the most readily available food, economically and culturally, is dogshit for you. It’s not just willpower, there’s a reason this has only become a problem in the past 50 years. Processed carbs have doomed our species.

    Makes you stand out more if you’re fit I guess, but it does suck. And I’m sad my mom gave me gyno.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What permanent damages occur from childhood obesity? Was fat lard ever since I was 4, and at 19 (currently 20) I lost a big chunk of that weight going from 260 to 180. I obviously still have a long way to go, but am I fucked for life in hoping I could ever reach 10-12% bf or is there still hope?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically one of the weirdest obese copes/mindsets
    >Guys, I'm not fat because I only eat McD's, KFC, and frozen pizza. I'm fat because genetics!
    >Have I ever tried cutting those foods out of my diet? What would be the point?! It's all genetics!!!

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sloth is not a disease of willpower
    Over 40% of the US is affected, not because they're not motivated enough or they lack willpower, but because it's truly a disease.

    It's not about willpower, it's about whether you are lazy in your teenage years, which mostly depends on your mom's exertion habits.

    Dramatic change compared to your teenage years' idleness is almost impossible, no matter whether you want to gain productivity or lose somnolence.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's a psyop not a disease you retard

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cope amerifat

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was obese until the age of 19. Went from 275 to 185 via running and diet. Started lifting and stabilized at 200. You've been refuted. Pedal your blackpill somewhere else gay. This is a board for people committed to improving themselves, not for rationalizing your defeatist mentality.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah it’s just urban planning and average diet.
    Can’t walk or bike in North American cities without thousands of cars scraping past you.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cope thread for fatasses

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That’s just not true. It’s 99% of the time an issue of calorie intake.
    The only time it’s not just an issue of self-control is when the person is cognitively handicapped to the point of not even understanding what “eating” is or they have Prader-Willi Syndrome

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Started at 465 at 16. Now 210 at 19, will hit 180 before surgery at 20. KYS OP.

    I didn't even get a choice of "just cut out bad food at the store lmao" no, I would tell my parents don't buy me that shit anymore, they wouldn't and I'd eat it. One day they bought me food, and I just let it sit there and go bad. They were like wtf? I did that for months and one day they learned I was over it. Fucking done. I hate any and all fast food now and only eat mom and pop IF i cheat. which is rarely ever too.

    Also if I ever fall off I'm going to binge eat the world and then kms, I don't do it for health only to look good as fuck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Started at 465 at 16
      >I don't do it for health only to look good as fuck.
      sorry but you're never going to look good. maybe you can pull off a world-weary aged-before-his-time look with your clothes on, but you're always going to have curtains of loose skin for your entire adult life. Not trying to demoralize you, but if you think you can still acquire a zyzz body after visiting 465lbs, you're setting yourself up for major disappointment. you'd better embrace the health aspect while you still can.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know, I have essentially a second human flesh prison on me already man. It's more facial and in clothes. I don't plan on ever taking my clothes off for anybody. I don't care though because I'm basically socially blunted anyways so it's not like I need a girlfriend or anything. It's more of a I can eat a box of donuts because I can maintain 180 pounds type look good, not really a look sexy as fuck. Even with the surgery i'll still be bad... Worst part is 80% of it wasn't even my fault I got shit on early... I admit to the last 75lbs tho

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s not a disease, but it is highly effected by genes.

    There is a reason why 70% of Hawaiians are obese

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There is a reason why 70% of Hawaiians are obese
      You only say this because you don't know what Hawaiian cooking is like.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's because Pacific Islander diet is atrocious and they don't exercise
      >fatty meat with sugary sauce
      >carbs
      >more carbs, this time with mayonnaise
      >more meat, deep fried
      >gigantic portions
      dessert is more fried shit + they put fucking coconut and pineapple in everything

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I fucking love that meal id eat it all the time but then I know ill get fat ..... so I just.... don't lol cope fatties.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Excuses

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obesity levels are insanely high these days and many of those people simply stuffing themselves daily and not trying at all. Being obese as an adult and blaming your mom instead of putting down the french fries is something only a weak-willed person would do.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit stop with the cultural mumbo jumbo and do some material analysis.

    Economics and access account for the overwhelming majority of obesity cases.

    Mental illness accounts for most of the rest, and mental illness is largely caused by material conditions.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Welp time to post the "muh genetics cope" picture again.

    In Part 1: We see the power of genetics in a pair of twins.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In Part 2: We see different weight gain for equal calorie intake. Something in the diet is causing the metabolism to be suppressed. What could it be? ? ?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both are obese.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >but because it's truly a disease
    So how come Ethopian stick morons are immune to this disease?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7412611/

      It's spreading there too.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Food cannot enter your body without your permission. Cope.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    put the fork down and go to the gym fatty

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is and it isn't. Obesity is a function of temptation and willpower. Temptation clearly varies dramatically, we all know that one guy who forgets to eat because they don't even enjoy food. Clearly someone like that will not have to exert much willpower to stay thin. Other people receive extreme pleasure from food and have to exert large amounts of willpower and self-control not to overeat. And of course everyone in the modern era has more occasions to be tempted by food in the first place thanks to advertising and the hyperpatable junk food factories that we've installed on every street corner.

    On the measure of willpower itself, this too is something people either have a lot of or a little of. Unlike temptation, it's at least something you can work on to improve, like any other muscle. But even a marathon runner can't run across america nonstop, and neither will someone sufficiently tempted by food be able to resist it indefinitely, regardless of the reserves of willpower they expend trying to resist it.

    So obesity is partially a function of willpower but not a matter of willpower alone. And situations can absolutely arise where, due to peoples' set points, genetically inherited traits and upbringing, the amount of temptation they experience absolutely overwhelms their ability to resist. For these people failure is predestined, and obesity guaranteed. Yes, their willpower failed, but no, there wasn't really much they realistically could have been expected to do to change the outcome. Obesity is a personal failing, but it's also a societal failing, a failure of genetic adaptation, a failure of the markets. It's multifactorial.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /fit/ness is predetermined by IQ. If you can't easily gain or lose weight, it's because you are low IQ.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's not about willpower, it's about whether you are fat in your teenage years, which mostly depends on your mom's eating habits
    I've seen some good fatty cope lately but this is a new level of delusion, congratulations OP, you win today.
    t. teenage fatty who turned that shit completely around with a little discipline

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and no. Fat cells never disappear, unless you surgically remove them through liposuction. So as a result it is easier to get fat because the storage is already there and not waiting to be built. So the accumulating effect if you are massively obese at 14 may have some kind of effect at 40. Also, the higher chance of injury being obese is higher if you try to be active, poor skeletal muscle means poor joint stabilizers which means higher chances of sprains which also can have an accumulated effect on fitness.

    But with that said, it’s still no excuse because plenty of people have overcome it. You know what you need to do at 14 to stay healthy and are aware of the consequences if you even have a rudimentary education. And even if that isn’t the case by the time you are an adult at 18 you have little excuse to not to try to adjust your habits to live the next 60 or so of your life in a better position than your prior 18.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keep eating that high fructose corn syrup fatty enjoy an early painful death.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >which mostly depends on your mom's eating habits
    I was never fat as a teenager let alone my whole life yet my mom is morbidly obese

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Over 40% of the US definitely has mediocre willpower when compared to historical norms
    Strong men, good times, weak men, fat times

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    still about willpower: channel parental resentment into self-hatred, use self-hatred as motivation to make a different self
    charlatans will tell you this won't work but it will

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care. Easier to mog.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I lost 100lbs and kept it off. What's so hard about that? Just don't drink soda and move more. Don't eat takeout. That's IT.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dramatic change compared to your teenage years' weight is almost impossible, no matter whether you want to gain weight or lose weight.
    I boxed from 8th grade and all through HS. Started 145-ish ended 160-ish senior year but always fought at 141. Quit second semester of college and over a 5 year period ballooned to like 230. cruised slowly for a few more years to 245 which is when I decided to change. I was 185 in 6 months time.

    It’s entirely about willpower. Genetics can stop you from gaining muscle, can somewhat stop you from gaining weight, but literally nothing can stop you from losing it. it would literally violate physics. Stop blaming “muh disease” for your own personal failings. You’re a fat shit because you want to be, simple as.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >obesity is a disease
    we have precedence for this now, we put them in camps

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's not about willpower
    It is though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wrong

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course it is a willpower thing.
    It doesnt matter if the cards are stacked against you and you feel hunger a thousand times harder than regular weight people. It sucks, but ultimately willpower is the only fix.

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