>be me
>Work my ass off to get in better shape count calories etc
>People just use ozempic and the weight falls off
It's not fair bros I'm seething idgaf this sucks someone tell me that it will blow up in their face . Is it expensive? I hope their finances get fucked up
>It's not fair bros
It's totally fair. When you have a cough you pop a pill, why not pop a pill when u fat?
It's true the fatter the dumber you are. I don't think you can recover from this OP.
>Hey IST, the success of others came to them easier than it came to me, and instead of feeling reasonable anger at the unfairness of the world, I want to take it out on the people trying to improve their lives.
yes. fuck those gays living on easy mode. that goes for women in general too
Ozempic is expensive and only works because it makes you feel too nauseous to eat. Also it doesn't train the fatties so if they resume their normal eating after stopping it they'll just gain the weight back.
this and the long term side effects might be terrible we just dont know yet or the pharma companies will just hide them
unlike certain recently released pharmaceuticals, this one was in research trials for decades
and they discovered cancer growths
You morons said the same thing about finasteride which has been around for 32 years now.
Also, being obese is a health risk factor with a far larger long term negative side effect profile than ozempic could possibly have. Or did you really believe that being fat was just a cosmetic issue? Healthy at every size amirite?
No not really dude
I'm taking it right now and it just makes it so you're not hungry for longer , I've experienced zero side effects
People want you to believe that there's a trade off to everything, but drugs just make you superior to your natural state, you have to accept it.
>People want you to believe that there's a trade off to everything, but drugs just make you superior to your natural state, you have to accept it.
Yes the "drugs are superior" is dumb.
But, you aren't natural anyway. Xenoesteogen in water, foods, and soaps. Receipts that poison you with the same. Cancer causing pipes and purposeful addition of Floride to the water. Microplastics in food, even meat. Nano plastics that Britta filters can't even get. Søy in everything, seed oils too. Milk that contains antibiotics and medicine the cows are given, then pasteurized to make it worse for you than raw milk. Fish normally have mercury, now testing positive for lithium from the sheer number of runoff piss of those taking medications. Tap water containing Female Birthcontrol runoff. Pesticides on every plant, even the organic.
And you want me to avoid taking some medication or chemicals with actual intention. Taken to try to balance out the shitstorm of poison in everything even the air?
I think I'll stick with augmentation. There's nothing natural anyway, even the Amish have never escaped it, and as the Train derailing shows, never will.
I say take what you want. Know there are risks, but know you are already taking so much accidentally, and unavoidably. (Until it all burns)
so true
Well your natural state is a fat gay. I don’t need a fat retard pill to put the cookie down.
Your natural state is a gay
bro using the kindergartic method here. just repeating the insult back
You have zero idea how the drug works huh
It literally just decreases appetite. What, you think it creates a pocket dimension that all the fat goes into? Stop using it, the appetite that made you fat as fuck is back, you're back to square 1.
>It literally just decreases appetite
And thats the same as nausea huh
If you're nauseous, your appetite by necessity decreases. Currently on 10ml semaglutide. From my experience, both nausea and decreased appetite occur.
>moving the goalposts
>If you're nauseous, your appetite by necessity decreases
If you lack quality sleep, you are tired. It doesnt follow that if you are tired you lack quality sleep. Its not the same thing.
You can't be hungry and nauseous simultaneously. That's what I was getting at. At least, I haven't.
Just say you were wrong buddy
>You can't be hungry and nauseous simultaneously
Everything you have said so far is wrong
Oh shit had a friend who took this, gained the weight back bc he wanted the easy way and never changes his mentality, also I bet that shit is terrible for you. If you want to cheat cutting take addy or ritalin
There's always a cost for black magic brother. For ozempic, Thyroid tumors and kidney problems seem to be the most common severe sides. This however pales in comparison to the fact that they will inevitably fail, and regain the weight, like most dieters. only these people didn't even manage to suffer and learn short term behaviors and strategies. They will rebound. They will either be fat, or be on drugs until the sides take them, then they'll be fat once again. You can't cheat this forever, you must pay the price. You will reap what you've sown, even if you've sown nothing at all, a shit pile you'll have.
They don't get in good shape
>seething at ozempic
I'm in a similar situation. I was obese throughout my teens then suddenly got the patience to lose weight in my early twenties. It's good others are losing weight too I just don't want acquaintances assuming I'm a rich fag who got lucky with a new drug and sneaked my way out of being fat. People seeing me mature and get my shit together was a big motivator but now ozempic existing as soon as I lose weight slightly dulls that achievement
As for yourself, developing the discipline to control your diet and body mass without help is infinitely more valuable than a fad drug that does half the work for you. Most people taking ozempic and similar drugs may even return to their old habits once they stop taking it and struggle to maintain a body they don't normally have. Plus we don't need to waste thousands a year on it
>Plus we don't need to waste thousands a year on it
>I hope their finances get fucked up
How much does it cost in your country?
Idk I love in third world
I'm surprised you bros left my thread
>How much does it cost in your country?
87 euros for a pen.
Y'all sound like those fuckers who get pissed off about student loan forgiveness.
>Bad system exists, people get fucked by it
>Someone tries to fix it
>Midwits chime in about "Oh, I had to suffer, you're invalidating my suffering by fixing things!"
>Overcomes the inertia to fix it
>Shit gets more broken
>We did it reddit
Fuck off back to your crab-bucket.
Yeah I would be pissed at student loan forgiveness if I had just finished paying my debt then everyone else gets off easy
this is peak chinaman mentality. this man will see a guy give his son a candy bar nad run to him to yell "where's mine!!!!" and then throw the candy bar in the trash because if he can't have it, then noone can
I never said student loan forgiveness was bad, I only said I would be pissed if I had just finished paying off my own debt for it to be finally implemented soon after. I'm annoyed at the TIMING. Learn to fucking read
i'd be pissed regardless of timing to know that the people being bailed out by student loan forgiveness have the reading comprehension of
"I suffered so future generations must also suffer, otherwise it's not fair"
what a garbage crab mentality
>"i chose to take out a loan, now you have to pay off my loan or its not fair".
even with loan repayments collage grads earn more than those who dont go to collage
That is demonstrably unfair. The only way it wouldn't be unfair is if those who had already paid off some or all of their loan got credited the amount they had paid, including interest.
More like
>I pay off my student loans
>my neighbor doesn't and uses his money to buy a pool
>student loans are forgiven
>I now have no debt
>my neighbor has no debt and a pool
If they want to give everyone a stimulus, fine, but don't pick and choose who gets a payout just to buy votes.
Humanity thrives in suffering. We are weak because we don’t suffer. Life is easy. Set goals and make it hard.
me too, ignore the others - that would quite literally be unfair
>good system exists (idiot filter)
>someone tries to break it
I'm not mad, I just want the idiot filter to keep idiots down
imagine how much worse the world would be if morons with student debt were suddenly able to break out of debt slavery
there wouldn't be a functioning business in existence
want proof? look at the other example of bribing people for votes (welfare)
people who refused to get jobs before are now vehement about not working and will vote against anyone who might get rid of welfare, so inner cities become "food deserts" and "underprivileged"
>student loan forgiveness
>Someone tries to fix it
>what is inflation?
collage grads already earn more than non-grads. you're making those who couldn't attend collage pay for the privileged. its not crab mentality when it actively fucks people
>loan money
>your'e supposed to pay it back
>this is a bad system
fuck off
>people get fucked by it
Nobody forces you to take a loan wagie lmao
>WTF what do you mean I have to pay back money I owe?!?!
Student loan forgiveness is just a transfer of money from the working class to middle class people who chose useless degrees. Of course I'm against it. Why should a factory worker or small business owner subsidize some retard who chose to major in English literature or some other bullshit area?
Student loan forgiveness isn't a fix. It's just passing the cost onto someone that didn't agree to the loan.
You hit your goal and you did it natty. You are also presumably now actually aware of what it takes to keep that weight off as well as some of the benefits of exercise
>you're not addicted to a drug
>you're not forced to inject said drug forever for the rest of your life to maintain the lowered appetite and body weight
>you don't suffer the regular payments for the drug
>you will not suffer any possible side effects of the drug
>you're in total control of your body and can gain or lose weight at will to any degree at any moment at a whim
>you developed a much healthier diet that will prevent other diseases that people taking the drug may suffer despite not being obese anymore
Yeah dude that really sucks.
Jesus Christ equating student loans and ozempic is fucking retarded, they're completely unrelated things
Not using ozempic doesn't cost you any money or effect the economy. A way better analogy is doing DIY home or auto repairs yourself. If you can do it yourself, great, you have a valuable skill and can save a lot of money. If other people can't and need to pay for help with it, who cares.
when they come off ozempic theres a masiive rebound and most people end up putting back on all the weight or even more
It's a treatment, not a cure.
You can't cure mental illness
See I know about that theory, so I will avoid it. I will get in shape with Ozempic, and stay in shape without it.
It's like getting angry at roidtrannies that they get gains by just breathing, or at fin fags for keeping their 18yo hair growth.
Not worth the risk for me, easy solutions for sloths that don't care about heart attacks, ED, thyroid tumors or whatever else your miracle drug may have in store for you.
Don't be demoralized OP. Remove the cock from your mouth and take solace in the fact that you're objectively stronger and faster than them.
Speaking of working your ass off, you do know that Ozempic makes you shart right? I'm not just talking I-had-some-lukewarm-goyslop sharting, I'm talking early 1980's Manhattan gay prostitute involuntary anal leakage. It's either Ozempic or some other boomer drug that makes them leak orange oil from their anus in public.
Remember that 1 pound lost from exercise is worth 100 pounds lost from some gnomish black magic that makes you ooze fryer oil from your cornhole anon, and keep truckin
Ozempic isnt the stuff that stops your body absorbing fats, the walmartsharts are from diet pills
These threads are being made by like shills to push their dope
Has to be. I can think of no other reason to seethe about some diabetes medication. This shit is not relevant to fitness at all.
Did the fake whining in the OP give it away
I hope it works so so much
no more fat acceptance
no more body positivity
no more fat pigs on tinder
please PLEASE TAKE THE DRUGE PLEASE
Look, friend, I know things look bad now...
It's gonna get worse
i really don’t give a shit about other people anymore. i have my own problems.
Why are fatties excited about ozempic? We already have clen, t3, dnp, ephedrine, yohimbine, duromine, etc and people are only getting fatter. Why will this be any different?
They’re trusting the science Chud
So much shilling for this garbage when cico is literally in the sticky sage.
CICO is how weight loss works, ozempic is just a means to achieve it.
Stop shilling your garbage you garden gnome rat.
>paying for expensive cancer causing drugs
You could get better results with a natural tuber extract. Pic related.
Yeah the pharmaceutical shilling on IST has been very obvious. Someone is paying for Ozempic to be advertised on social media and IST IST made it onto their list of shill targets.
>pharmaceutical shilling
It remembers me the Satial craze. It yielded minimal to none results unless consumed for years yet the result is not worth compared to few weeks of cardio
>fatties itt trying to be smug as if they arent the biggest losers on the planet
Lmao
Cant wait for you to get that weight back after hoping off it followed by the side effects tag teaming your already unhealthy body. Literally just put the fork down fatass
What you need to fix the most is not your weight but the mental illness that makes you seethe at technological progress.
why semaglutide and not tirzepatide? the latter is supposedly more effective with less side effects.
JFC y'all. This was never some argument about student loan forgiveness. I was comparing y'all to them, because you want to make others suffer purely because you did.
This isn't the fucking place for that politics bullshit. Yeah, we've all got opinions. Great. Save 'em for 4chan.
My whole fucking point was that y'all want to drag others down because you're fucking children who never came to terms with the fact that the world is unfair.
And all you've done since I posted that is prove my fucking point.
It's no fucking wonder y'all have so many problems making friends.
>y'all
Go back to Facebook
>I was comparing y'all to them, because you want to make others suffer purely because you did.
If you don't want political discussions, then don't make strawman bad faith arguments, you fucking retard. People have several good reasons to be against student loan forgiveness that aren't just wanting others to suffer and it was predictable that you'd make these people angry with your post.
reddit formatting
Work smart not hard
PS: only retards become fat in the first place
Ozempic will not make people go to the gym and get in shape, it will not give them trained muscles. All it does is make them not want to eat.
Counting calories is dumb af, if you eat reasonable amount of food in a day but consume crazy amounts of calories then the food you eat is garbage. Change your food so that normal daily consumption will not exceed the amount of calories required for the man of your age and your specific lifestyle.
Fat people eat for more than what is considered a normal amount. That's the crux of the issue. To a fat person, "normal" would be eating an exorbitant amount of food. Fatties have no understanding of what a "reasonable" amount of food actually is, especially if they've been fat most of their life. Given this, calorie counting would be necessary to get them to eat healthily.
Imagine if what they eat had 30% less calories, they would still eat the same amount of food but their calory intake would be 30% less. Thats my point, you can easily replace/reduce/remove the most calory dense foods or ingredients from your diet and still eat almost the same amount of food. It's not even that difficult, just go for reduced sugar, reduced carb, reduced fat options.
Ozempic does work as advertised. But while people who use Ozempic will get thinner by eating reduced amounts of the same processed crap they always have, even at the same weight they'll still be less healthy and feel worse than someone who has switched to a vegetable-based diet with quality fish and meat. Even if we had absolutely perfect appetite-reducing drugs, diet and lifestyle modification still wouldn't be pointless because weight isn't the only thing that matters.
>work my ass off
Just eat less what are you talking about
You know what? It takes some getting used to. It's easy now but it wasn't back then and Im DAMN PROUD of myself so fuck you anon seriously
>drug we know nothing about its long time consequences
they’re gonna ACK themselves
>science finally invents a cure against being fat
>this is just the first thing they invented, and it's a side effect of a different idea
>give it years and they will iron out much better and actually worthwhile meds against being fat
>People will start losing weight the easy way
Is this why IST feels so much anxiety about it? Because there will be an alternative to hard work, and they feel personally attacked over people getting things easy, that they got the hard way?
Yeah, this shit is going to significantly change the weight loss industry and upset people who have been successful with the current diet models for losing fat. Semaglutide compared to classic diet strategies is basically the model t to the horse
Guys who actually have good physiques aren't gonna care, it doesn't build muscle for you. What it's doing is making the dyels and w*men who take have a lot pride for just not being fat who are gonna seethe the most
Fit guys are becoming insecure when fat fucks can suddenly catch up.
They will pay the price eventually.
This is peak retarded fatty who doesn't even bother to think about their nutrition and keeps shoving goyslop down their throat, then acts surprised when it starts rotting in her stomach and fucking her up because it now digests 5x slower than before.
I guarantee you that this stupid btich could've eaten 3 salads with lean meat a day, had zero side effects and zero hunger, and watched the fat fly off. For 99% of people it's miracle drug, but 1% are so far gone that they'll do everything they can to continue self sabatoging.
have a nice day shill
Imagine being this weak willed that you can't lose weight the normal way.
I support genocide against fat people no cap
>anime picture
>op is a fatass
tale as old as time
>hypertrophy
>muscle strength
>bone density
>cardiovascular health
>anaerobic and aerobic efficiency
>learning nutrition, correct form, how to train, managing calories and weight
>etc, etc
Does le magic drug get you any of this? Why are you jealous of lazy retards who will go from weak fatties to weak skeletons? Keep training
Thanks for actually saying something worthwhile in my thread. I will keep exercising
Its fair
Are you a woman?
Why
You sound like some bitch from Mean Girls.
>someone tell me that it will blow up in their face . Is it expensive? I hope their finances get fucked up
>fat person has irreversibly damaged their body through over eating and sedentary lifestyle
>turns to an experimental diabetes drug that fucks with hormone levels
>have to pay a subscription to a pharma company for the rest of your life
Wow yeah so jealous of those fatties, if only that could be me.
If Ozempic is a cheat code for losing weight then all the fast food companies have been using a cheat code for getting rich by making us fat and unhealthy in the first place.
We've all been poisoned by processed food in the west and nobody will stop them so time to fight fire with fire. Hope everyone goes on O and McDonald's goes bankrupt.
>making us
Nobody made you eat fast food
>be me
>work my ass off to build muscle lift weight etc.
>People just use steroids and the muscle jumps on
It's not fair bros I'm seething idgaf this sucks someone tell me that it will blow up in their face . Is it expensive? I hope their finances get fucked up