Ozempic proves CICO is right

Why do ketolards keep insisting their "diet" works?
>People take ozempic
>They consume less calories
>They lose weight (they dont work out which results in muscle loss too)
Fatties cant simply lie now that : "I only eat 800 calories and run 100 kms a day but i am not losing weight!" even MSM pandering to mental illnesses agrees
So either you admit CICO is the only way to lose weight or you are a moronic monkey

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree.

    There's a lot going on in this image, is that crying cat next to an asteroid impact on the Earth? Amazing stuff.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm doing keto and I don't feel hunger anymore. I understand now why fatties are fat: hunger is an all consuming, overpowering feeling which occupies your every thought and desire.

    Only drawback is that it's hard to understand when I have to eat, since my body doesn't tell me when to eat.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Normal diet: 2/3 bodyfat loss
    >Ozempic diet: 1/3 bodyfat loss

    In reality you are losing body weight BUT you are getting fatter with Ozempic. So if the weight you lose is only 1/3 bodyfat, guess what the other 2/3 is? Crazy how this stuff was approved and is now used like its a Vit D supplement.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >eat less
    >lose weight
    it boggles my mind that this is not universally understood

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not all calories are the same, thoughever.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ozempic causes muscle wasting? Sounds like a poison.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ozempic is the biggest scam I have ever heard of. You can achieve the same effects of ozempic naturally within a month by simply reducing your calories slightly every week. You don’t even have to eat healthy at first you can eat pizza and junk and do this and every other week swap out one meal for something healthier. Your body adapts and gets used to eating less. You can literally go from 3000 calories of junk a day to 1500 calories of mostly healthy foods in 2-3 months and barely feel hungry. Throw in something as simple as going on walks and the fat will melt a 290lb fatass eating 3000 cals a day not working out can drop down to like 220lbs in 6 months doing this and never once for a second feel as shitty as if he from day one tried to drop down to 2000 on day one. This accomplished the goal naturally, avoids any of the side effects from the drug Inb4 there are non yes there are, and most importantly this actually leads to them having a healthy sustainable health oriented lifestyle to help ensure they never get fat again. An ozempig may what, use their drug and drop 40lbs in 3 months and then have that gaunt Draugr face and then over the next 6 months regain it all? Shits no different than those b***hes who get a BBL then start lifting after and make lifting their whole personality like they grew their ass via hard work and patience.

    Why are people this fricking stupid? Why does everyone want the magic solution? Why is the idea of applying some minimal effort and exercising some willpower so alien to most people?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's over

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is he okay?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          epilepsy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you sound dumb

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ozempic proves CICO is right
    The body does not absorb calories nor do calories have weight. The "calories" people use on packaging are only effective insofar as they're tied to the grams of mass the product contains. Mass in, mass out works, as the body consumes and uses matter. Calories in, calories out will never work as the body "burns" 0 calories for the entirety of its existence.
    Ozempic is a little shot of satiety activation, proving once again that appetite control is regulated by hormones and not OP's homosexual-ass calorie balance model. CICO is once again debunked. /thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a semantic argument. He says "calories", you say "mass". He says "burn" (presumably), you say "uses".

      The real problem with CICO is how incorrect packaging information is, and the fact that not everything is fully absorbed, and it can vary wildly for different people and different types of food. That said, over time with a healthy diet, you should be able to figure out roughly the amount you need to eat for your goals.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Certain foods contribute to your mass more than others, so it's not just mass in, mass out. Foods high in sugars and fats (cookies) will cause you to gain more mass than something high in just fiber and water (celery). A better statement would be

      "potential mass added to the body" in, "potential mass used by the body" out

      That's a mouthful, though, so we could probably just use a shorthand word. "Potential mass added to the body is similar" to the word calorie, a unit of energy, so we could probably just reuse that word.

      Calories In, Calories Out

      Yeah, that works. Much cleaner.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        people are set on deconstructing basic common sense and old wisdoms to appeal to their individualistic arrogance, feelings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but as you said, it never was that simple.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CICO is an equivalent of telling an alcoholic to drink less or an insomniac to sleep more and at a proper time or a depressed person to be happier. It's a theoretical solution to a practical problem, it's pretending that the problem is a lack of knowledge, and as long as you spread the arcane knowledge of the cicoers, weightloss is solved.
    Strangely, empirically CICO is completely useless. Almost as if everyone already knows that they need to eat less (and exercise more if possible), what calories are and how any deficit they might have would be covered by body fat and telling them that does literally nothing.
    Ozempic and keto are meant for actual humans in the real world, for whom the problem isn't that they don't know how the mechanics of weightloss work, they don't know how to achieve them consistently over a long period of time. That's the problem ozempic and keto are addressing, and CICO does not.
    Is CICO "right"? Well, duh. Is CICO useless? Demonstrably so

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >CICO is useless because people can't currently control themselves
      >the truth is useless if people are unable to face it right now
      You have a weird perspective. It's kinda like how some (stupid, dishonest) people say fasting is useless because so many over-indulge when refeeding, so their weight returns. If society was culturally and perhaps spiritually healthy, people would control their diets more easily and have access to better food for less money. They would then become physically healthy!

      There's no need to ingest poisons like Ozempic, the toxic band-aid. Fix society, fix the underlying problems, cure the disease.
      >but that's difficult...
      Tough shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >useless
        >having or being of no use
        If it fails to be used for weightloss - what is the use? Academic, I guess
        The world is filled with useless truths. Especially after you apply it to a person. For most people chemistry is useless, math is useless, history is useless. But is it useless in general? No, there are valuable professions making extensive use of these truths, we just live in a specialized society. I don't need to know chemistry because one chemist per 50k people is enough, I can specialize in something else.
        Only people left on the planet who don't know CICO are Black folk in africa and they don't need it anyway. Despite that, CICO has failed to produce any result. It failed at inducing weightloss, therefore it is useless
        Excluding research

        >culturally and perhaps spiritually healthy
        >people would control their diets more easily
        >Fix society
        >fix the underlying problems
        Look, things that aren't CICO. If CICO was a viable solution to obesity, you wouldn't need to add a bunch of extras to make it really work.
        >poisons like Ozempic, the toxic band-aid.
        Someone sounds angry. Ozempic literally does one of the things you listed that should be done. Only poison here is in your heart

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, the obvious answer to the problems of fatties is
      1. suck it up
      2. you dont have to eat 1100 calories a day

      most ketolards who tried to lose wait basically starved themselves for a month and then wait "they lied! cico is bullshit!" and then started to think they can lose weight "effortlessly" by gorging on butter, eggs and avocados. also you greatly overestimate the average person's understanding of how fat loss works

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"willpower it out bro everything is simple and your fault"
        And so obesity rates and obese children skyrocketed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Somehow this worked before the mid 1900s.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >
            Communism worked for tribal villages too
            Things change, some solutions become worse, some become better. If you want your solution of choice to be used, you either need to demonstrate it's effectiveness, or identify what the problem with it is and propose solution. A solutions that fits picrel criteria. Time bound is 10 to 20 years max, as obesity crisis is now.
            Why do you propose CICO is not working? What is your solution to that?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're right, I guess I never really thought about it, perhaps the solution really is just doing the same thing as before with no change. How has that worked out, by the way?
        Communism works too if you factor out humans being humans, comrade

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ozempic does other things besides simple appetite reduction. It still helps insulin resistance the whole time and it targets visceral fat meaning it is an actual cure and not a bandage.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it targets visceral fat
      Any other means to target it without putting questionable chemicals in your body?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are the questions you have?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It does nothing special to fat. The active element is something your body can make on it's own already

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This had nothing to do with keto.

    If you actually waste time parsing through the threads, CICO advocates eat meat and carbs. They aren't pro or anti keto or veganism, but anti anyone claiming one or the other is the reason for weight loss.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keto helps me consume less calories. It's easier for me to be autistic about carbs than to just count everything

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > ywn hang out with your internet autist friends at a bar

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The way keto works is by making you feel less hungry therefore eating less you shit for brains carblard

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, anon, that's not how it works. semaglutide is a glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) receptor agonist, it reduces blood sugar and energy intake by activating the GLP-1 receptor, and thus mimics the actions of the endogenous incretin hormone GLP-1 that is released by the gut after eating. it effectively suppress your hunger and forces you into a prolonged fasting state by fooling the gut into thinking that it's full, though hormone regulation. if anything, this proves the "hormonal response" theory to obesity, that hormones regulate your response to certain types of energy as extracted from various food types/macronutrients.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ozempic is dangerous. Do not take it.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keto lives rent free in your head.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cico tards when they can shovel slop down their throat because "it's 0 calories guys!"

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