Is this real or roidtroony cope?
I think it's cope.
I'm natty, not even big at all, and people (both Gymgoers and Normies) can tell I can lift even in a M sized shirt
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It's weird IST cope.
Better to look dyel in clothing than be an actual fat frick and have it be blatantly obvious your fat under clothes.
/This
It's one of the strangest fat powerlifter copes that we have. If you're a natural at a high bodyfat you just look fat in clothes and fat out of them. There's no benefit whatsoever.
Oh look, one of them is here
t. dyel in clothes
t. fatty with or without clothes
based
This 100%
Nothing beats taking off your shirt and the girl you're with saying "I know you work out but damn"
Lol. Abs on a skinny dude are like big breasts on a fat chick. No one is impressed. Being big with abs is actually impressive.
roidtroony cope. only men give a shit how big you are. women give a shit how lean you are.
Only someone who was never big could say something so moronic. Being over 200 lbs with abs is like playing on easy mode.
Incel take
This whole "be lean or women will never like you" take stems from lookism incels whose facial structure is so weak and soft looking from a youth spent playing video games and jerking off that they can't even look human unless they're 10% bf (which they never maintain but claim they do while also not lifting)
>the girl you're with
Stopped reading right there. I have extreme severe autism to have a girl.
based
<-- i wonder who gets more pussy
guy on the right wants to give you a great deal on a certified preowned Acura, but he can do it today and today only
And the guy on the left takes that deal.
yeah the pretty boy on the left definitely gets a load of zommie pussy, but I think its also something to do with he guy on the right just trying way too hard
the shirt is too tight, shirt unbuttoned at top, beard trimmed in all the right places and the hair styled. it looks like he read up on what to do to be attractive, while the pretty boy is just attractive.
right looks exactly like my post op ftm cousin, uncanny
guy on the right looks like he's about to try sell me Persian rugs, fragrances or a used car.
skin tight clothing looks fricking moronic, who buys that shit and thinks he gets anything.
That super sharp beard cut, those tight fitting clothes, handbag. I think he's getting a lot anon, just fishing in a different pond.
thats what the "look dyel in a shirt" meme is, filling out a shirt like a moron instead of buying a bigger size when it's tight
Guy on the right is just short. If he was stretched out to regular proportions he'd be just fine.
There's no version of him who slays like the guy on the left, it's unfair to say its down to his clothing and grooming.
>comparing a naturally handsome straight White guy to some try hard gay med bottom
animals with constantly wet hair should be slaughtered. Black person tier.
you can have both, just buy smaller, well fitted shirts
> you're either a lean twink or a fat powerbloater
It doesn't have to be this way
If you can see yhe the shape of your pecs through your clothes people can tell you lift.
Fpbp
I don't need to remind people I lift every fricking time of the day like some attention prostitute. Idgaf if I look Dyel in clothes or not.
tbh I'd rather they don't know with the shirt since it looks more impressive when you take your shirt off since they're not expecting it
>Idgaf if I look Dyel in clothes or not
Sane post, mires are nice but don't do it for attention ffs
I agree with this. I just buy clothes that fit well, sometimes I even get myself some oversized shirts just because I like them. I don't care about people knowing that I lift and over time I have also gotten a bit tired of people realizing that I lift and proceeding to ask stupid questions about diet and exercise that should be common sense by now
Oh wow, I'm so impressed by your deep thoughts on the importance of reminding people you lift every single moment of the day. Truly a philosophical masterpiece. And of course, it's not like you have any ulterior motives or desire for attention. No, no. You're just a humble weightlifter who doesn't care about how your muscles are perceived in clothing.
Please, do continue to enlighten us with your profound insights. I'm sure we can all learn a thing or two about humility and attention-seeking behavior from you.
Tried so hard to sound smart but ended up looking like an angry aspie.
Thanks for looking like a loser while the rest of us get mired
Found the seething roid-troony, sorry that made you so mad lmao
>Thanks for looking like a loser while the rest of us get mired
Best posts. Thread ended here
This but the only time I go out is to the gym, work, and grocery store. I ignore everyone at work, especially people who comment on my body, and I use the self checkout.
It's true moron
I started doing jiu jitsu just to justify wearing a rashguard everywhere
You can tell who lifts by the way the clothes sit on their body. IST is to mens' muscles what arab countries are to obese women. They want so much excess that it is spilling out of the covering, even though that ruins what's inside the package.
>i NEED others to know i lift
Natural behavior from someone with zero redeemable qualities tbqtbh senpai
>tbqtobehonest
frfrtbqhtobequitehonestdesunocapsenpai get cancer
>I'm a newbie who doesn't know what tbh means or where to use it
Yes, we know. Kindly frick off back to r/eddit.
You replied to a different person you schizo.
>muh sekrit club
>muh Japanese vernacular
Kys stat
Nonmoronic person can tell if you lift by just watching at your arms.
Fit thinks anyone smaller than Olympia Arnold is DYEL in a shirt. Take it with a grain of salt
Buy fitting clothes. People always can tell when they see me. Also my arm vascularity and vein always makes people mire and know im superior
You have great arms. No need to wear such small shirts.
Yes bro thanks. Just looking at my arms vein people always assume i lift i dont even need to wear fitting clothes.
forearm gains are the key. If you have juicy veiny forearms all you need to do is roll your sleeves up.
t. baggy shirt boomers and wiggers
That's not fitting. You look like a homosexual that wears shirts too small to show off his body. Buy a size larger
Look at the length of that t-shirt, how is that too small?
Yes, people can tell if you lift even in clothes, even if you're natty, don't listen to roid propaganda.
moron take
wtf is this shirt
JFC if I saw this 'cel IRL I'd immediately be able to tell he posts on IST hahaha holy shit
Want to know the difference between you and I? I can dress like an autistic person on purpose (pic rel) and actually look good
You look completely average, you don't get out around real men often do you?
He looks like an average man. The other guy looks like a small man wearing a child’s shirt and a dumb watch.
You mean "normal" - which is an incredibly hard task for you nerds to pull off
actual autist. post body, loser.
you do not look good, you are just autistic
I know it’s been said but for your own benefit I’d like to reiterate, you look like a homosexual. Buy bigger shirts. People will still be able to tell you lift.
> looks like he lifts in a medium shirt
Bro this thread is for NATTIES ONLY
Imagine calling yourself a "MAN" and wearing Medium sized shirts LMAO
t. > fatass and waste of space
>t. 5'5 manlets who never grew out of their middle school clothes
Lmao
>t.+20% bf fatass
I was 170 something pound skelly in high school and would wear larges
I’m 6’2” 195 lean and I’m just wide as frick I wear XLs and always t shirts in the gym and I look massive because of how it hugs my chest and shoulders.
Lose weight tubby
its always so cold so i end up wearing a sweatshirt or something on top
guess they see my huge ass at least
People can absolutely tell I lift in a shirt. Even a longsleeve.
Put it this way, when you look at someone who lifts, you can tell they lift... so obviously other people can tell you lift too. It doesn't take much observation skills to notice how someone is built no matter what they're wearing.
For some reason when I see other guys wearing tight fitting stuff or really showing off their arms I automatically assume they're a douchebag, even though I'm guilty of it myself sometimes. I guess it doesn't matter what we think of each other though because all we're trying to do is get some girls to look at us for an ego boost.
I'd say if you have to cope as low as M to look jacked in a shirt you're small and weak.
I also fricking hate tight shirts. It so douchey and gay. I'm 6' and wear XL and it's still very obvious I lift without it being form fitting, but I'm also 235.
Post body
Shirt sizes have gone up. Today's Medium size is yesterday's Large.
I thought I lost more weight than I have, when I bought new M shirts. The Ms I have in the closet before I became fat still don't fit.
this looks perfectly good, hell he even looks buff
God there are so many dumb c**ts on this board who are literally scared shitless of looking at themselves outside of their go to good lighting areas
you think you look like a god tier built-fat like pic related but you dont
The importance of this pic is that he has enough body fat. I have a few veins showing and my gf hates it. She thinks veins are disgusting and most women do. That's why your pic is also the highest rated... But homosexuals here don't get it
>and most women do
lmao
This. The girlfriend is an exception. Nothing wrong with her, but most women love veiny arms (the youthful kind with good, moisturized skin).
Women find veins hot, never had a girl grab your arm and trace the veins up and down your arms before?
I'm pretty sure I saw this pic in another thread where a guy threw out bait by saying post body and he was a commie who went on about how Nazis are DYELs to leftists
Spot on OP. I’m not that big + I wear boxy shirts and people can tell I lift at just a glance. Nothing cringier to me than goobers wearing tight shirts. You look like you’re trying way too hard.
Women won't think you lift unless you look really big, but that doesn't really matter because they'll just think you're naturally like that.
Women will dead ass tell you that they don't like guys who work out then talk about how hot some actor who is paid to spend 6 hours a day in the gym and take steroids is. There's nothing useful to be obtained from them.
There are guys who look pretty big despite not working out at all in any way. The average skinny/skinny fat guy will probably end up looking the same as them if they DO lift.
I once read in IST that what women say they want, what they THINK they want, and what they actually want are three different things. Wiser words were never spoken.
>People can't tell you Lift in a shirt
That's a half true
>Look like you lift in a shirt
>Look like you lift without a shirt
>Being natty
Pick two
I am not that big and i’m all 3
cope and seethe troony
>you need to be fat to look like you lift in a shirt
Holy shit what is this cope? Did none of you play sports in school? Looking big in a shirt is easy as frick. Pic related is me (on the right obviously) 12 years ago in high school when I had no clue what I was doing in the weight room and I ate what ever mom had cooked that day. I think I could only bench 265 at that point. I've gained 45 lbs of solid mass since then so I won't even bother with a current pic. Most of you are kids anyway and you need to stop making excuses.
I'm gonna disregard everything you just wrote because you got a fricking tribal tattoo lmao
Then stay small.
Sadly true. This board went down the gutter years ago.
Most people here don't lift dude. They think anyone above 150 lbs is fat lol. They are literal children.
I agree but it’s hard to believe you are wearing that shirt while rocking a tribal tat
This was more than a decade ago. Everyone and their mom had a tribal back then. It's like how all zoomers have those prison tat scribbles ala Jake Paul now.
>I peaked in high school cope the post
Your arms have very little definition. Meaning you're fat.
>this is fat according to dyels on IST
Lmao. Where your pics btw?
This guy clearly fricks but newbie zoomers will insist he is "fat" to cope because they've never bulked in their life
>This guy clearly fricks but newbie zoomers will insist he is "fat" to cope because they've never bulked in their life
his loewer belly says 10% bf his arms and delts say 15-16% - he fricks but with oil - poor dumb mofo
lmao @ the morons who haven't even noticed that this is shooped
>visible forearm and bicep veins
>your arms have very little definition
Instagram fake natties have rotted your brain.
Dude has multiple veins in his forearms visible without a pump and not even flexing. You’re moronic and clearly don’t lift
>Clearly fat
>Watch on right arm
>Tribal tattoo
This has got to be bait, right?...
Thats 15-17 body fat at the most weirdo.
More like 25
He has no definition in his arms. His upper arms look exactly like fatceps. He's more like 18-20.
Post body, I want to laugh at you twinky
>gained 45lbs of solid muscle and won’t post an updated photo
Hahahahahaha you fat fricking liar with the gayest fricking tattoo and style
1.5 years lifting and still look like the guy in the middle. Is this a gene issue
Depends on your training. I'm the guy on the right and I was training for 2 years at that point. I was doing a bro split but I was going hard every workout.
Now tell us how much time between photos.
They're from around the same period. I weighed about 180 lbs back then. Now I'm 220+.
Ok but that tribal tatto looks sick
>sex drugs rock and roll
guy on left has girl on his arm
Lmfao you look mid 20s, you definitely peaked in HS and aged like shit
>tattoos in high school
Yeah sure thing homosexual
I can’t fit in XXL clothes unless there’s stretch in the back. Hate when I get free jackets from work and I can’t move my arms to my ears because I get stuck.
Damn, does he wear a Parmegani or JLC? This guy has class.
Muscle fit shirts, especially when you're ottermode
To me looking like you lift means you already have the physique of someone who he has lifted consistently for 2-3 years, and not that a random person can tell that you have just started working out.
natty, and it depends entirely on the fabric, fit, and colour of the shirt or whatever you're wearing.
also hitting plenty of arms and chest is essential for looking fit in a shirt.
lel what are those shoes? and pants?
He's a weeaboo landscape designer who moved to Japan to learn traditional gardening and frick nip twinks. Don't question it.
>hitting plenty of arms and chest is essential for looking fit in a shirt
that shovel homosexual is roid, is fat and has no delts - looks like shitters in carefully crafted cosplay 😀
He's Swedish btw
He's wearing a $700 custom made shirt designed to fit tightly across the chest and loosely across the abdomen to emphasize his pecs and flat stomach.
White dudes need to stop wearing all black it looks weird to say the least
No? Black folk aren't even black, they're brown.
>wear tight shirt
>can tell you lift, but uncomfortable as frick
>wear non-tight shirt
>can't tell shit, but very comfy
>wear a shirt that actually fits
>can tell you lift and comfy
Try just a little.
Guy's a joke. Add an actual human being next to him and he looks like a slightly more muscluar child
He's cute though, and that's kind of all that matters.
What'd she mean by this?
women fraud so much that they do it without even realising it half of the time
She's probably jealous as frick at his neck.
dios mio la goblina sandalia
I had a girl tell me "guys under 6ft arent hot accept Tom Holland"
Maybe it is about the face after all
She's ugly as frick, skinny as frick, and has no breasts.
Even as a manlet I think he could do better than that.
Anyone got the pic of his gf Zenyata?
You can tell. You will notice people checking out your biceps.
A thick neck and traps also help.
it's better to be around 15% body fat (actual 15% not 25% cope) with a decent amount of muscle mass than being super lean and looking small in anything that's not 1-2 sizes too small.
People can tell you lift by the way you carry yourself. Good posture, the sort of confidence that comes with bettering yourself, moving like someone who has control over and awareness of their body; these are all things that come with lifting and come across to people, even if they don't know what it is, they'll subconsciously notice
Don't wear incredibly tight clothing thinking it'll make your muscles "pop", you'll just look insecure.
I mean, it all depends on how big you are. A natural with 16-17in arms and big shoulders will always look like they lift in clothes.
pic related is me in the same shirt from 132-184
enjoyin a gay mate?
That shirt is so faded lmao what’s the time difference
like five years lol, left pic was 2017. had double hernia surgery like 6 months after that photo, I only really took lifting seriously in 2020
portland maine?
Do I look like I lift?
>wrists
I know.
Curlbro
unironically yes and nobody in real life cares about your wrists moron
lmao true
>nobody in real life
Bro... are you... not real? Have my big Dawgs on IST all been a simulation.
i dont care about your wrists, they look normal, therefore i would ignore them if i saw them in real life mate
>wrists
I'd be more worried about those calves.
It's a cruel world out there friend, I train them as much as I can.
What calves?
wrist curl+calve raises
people can easily tell you are fit if you can fill out a medium
"dyel in shirt" is roidmonkey/fat strongman cope because they want to fill out an extra large shirt
Secret Info: 99% of women are disgusted by roidmonkeys
>Secret Info: 99% of women are disgusted by roidmonkeys
Wrong. 99% of women AND MEN are disgusted roidmonkeys. Most people dont want to associate with them.
I've banged 10 times more girls on steroids than natty lmao. Keep coping. Ypu think those capeshit actors are roiding for fun?
>I've banged 10 times more girls on steroids
HAHAHA how were you not embarrassed to type this?
If you are sub 2/3/4/5 people can't obviously tell you lift in a shirt
Unless you wear a giga try hard tight shirt that screams "PLEASE LLOOK AT ME, I LIFT"
The only thing you need to look like you lift in a shirt is decent arms. They don';t even have to be big. The difference between toned arms and fatceps is like night and day.
6'1 180lb medium frame low bf anon reporting in. I wear medium or large depending on the cut of the shirt. xl ones just look silly but bigger large shirts fit nicely and hide my wide shoulders nicely.
The standards for the gym have risen
Back in the day OP pic would obviously be a gym goer but nowadays that looks DYEL even shirtless to girls because of their social media
>Guys notice I go to the gym and ask me my routine
>Women say I would look better if I went to the gym
It's honestly mind-blowing imagining how most men really are just completely invisible to women now
The average dude is skinnyfat, stick thin or just plain fat. They either don't fill out sleeves or have fatceps in a shirt
Lol no. 15 years ago that was turbo dyel. There were far less causals and womeb in the weight room. I remember some of the older guys in my gym laughing at 80kg/180lbs dudes who thought they were big.
>I remember some of the older guys in my gym laughing at 80kg/180lbs dudes
those old guys were on roids, mate.
This is like men expecting women to actually look like X-men girls from the 90s.
except Jubliee. Flats town for life
Comics used to be so good. I have the biggest crush on Psylocke in the 90s
No, it’s not. Women (and most men) don’t know what a natty lifter looks like after x amount of time. Every day they see videos of men that have a body that can only be obtained by roiding or natty bodybuilding for a decade and they naturally assume it is possible with minimal effort because they have no idea what kind of effort (or drugs) it takes to look that way. People will unironically tell you that most professional and Olympic athletes are natty. That is the level of delusion people have around mens bodies in the current year.
Who mogs who?
Cyclops mogs everyone in this picture with his perfect posture.
its absolutely cope probably even a symptom of facial blindness, if you cant tell if someone lifts by just their neck and wrists you're probably moronic
If you can comfortably fit into a medium then you’re just small there’s no way around it. It’s not even an issue of just the shoulders being small it’s everything from the abdomen up traps, all shoulder heads, back, chest, etc. Imagine training about 1/3rd of your entire body to wear the same size shirts as middle schoolers.
That being said you’re either big or you’re not shirt size is whatever. You’ll just look like a desperate homosexual by wearing a shirt that’s clearly too small “CAN YOU TELL THAT I lIFT LOOK HOW TIGHT MY MEDIUM IS” then the large hoodie goes on and your hobby might as well be collecting 40k figures because no one can tell now lmao
Discard opinions of anons who post weeb trash. Simple as.
People who say that don't know how to fricking dress, which is standard for IST tbh
Ironically, i look bigger in loose clothes than bigger ones
if people cant if you lift in a shirt it just means that you have small neck and arms.
picrel
Sauce?
Pietro Boselli
I look way bigger in a shirt. I have wide ass shoulders and reasonably responsive delts.
it's cope all around. most people wont care anyway
It's clearly a gymcel cope. Women can tell when a man is lean or not under his shirt as long as his clothes fit. Like you can tell when a girl has nice breasts/ass even if they small-medium.
It is cope but partly true. If you are a natural and below 10% bodyfat, no one can tell you ever lift a weight in your life with a shirt on. You need to be between 12 to 15% to be remotely lean and look like you lift.
Good for you however that almost nobody is around 10%
It's not true at all unless you're a gigadyel. People have been telling me I look jacked ever since like 6 months after I started lifting.
Fricking hell this place.
DYEL = Do You Even Lift . If someone has to ask, or you need do something to show off, then you don't fricking lift. If when you put on a t-shirt nobody can tell if you lift, then you don't fricking lift. It's really fricking simple. If you need to be stood in front of a mirror topless to look like you lift, DYEL? This board is full of fat fricks and morons from other shitholes trying to shit up anyone on this godforsaken websites idea about fitness, self-improvement and what they can actually achieve for themselves. Read the fricking sticky, ignore dumb fricking threads like this. Frick the jannies that get payed too much to not deal with these dogshit threads.
I need to wear xxl because my shoulders are too broad
Lmao
ah yeah, y'all don't know nothing about this,
the Shaq man's in the arsenal,
what's up like that,
Double XL in the nine-ohs kid,
skills to make mills,
It’s true no matter how much the dyels here wish it wasn’t. The bar has been raised by Roiding influencers and celebrities. If you wear a child size shirt (medium), you may look like you lift, but you look like a homosexual. If you’re heavy enough to fill out a large/xl shirt you’re either roiding, have high bf%, are a genetically gifted 6’2+ man, or have been lifting natty for a decade.
>M sized shirt
>people can tell I lift
ok bro
> "People can't tell you Lift in a shirt"
this is a cope for people who don't work delts.
I have terrible skin so I cover up anyway.
If no one can tell you lift in a shirt then you might as well not lift
This thread is for nattys, not roiding manlets
Not him but no one who talks like this has even a remotely good body
You're not going to post timestampes body because you look like shit so posy time stamped wrists
Or are your wrists even so pathetic. They are indicative of your shit body? Wow, that's sad
He’s the same homosexual who shits up every thread with pictures of his physique as if he isn’t 5’4 and roided to the gills. This thread had literally nothing to do with him and he showed up just to shit on people who don’t want to die in their 40s from steroid abuse. He deserves to be shit on.
His first post is a fact and you're overreacting hard as frick. Just look at yourself.
Oh no, some IST incel doesn't think I look good, whatever will I do?
I just called him an annoying homosexual and a manlet, all of which are objectively true. His shitposting is not warranted, nor is it constructive, therefore all shitposting he receives in return is well deserved. Your body is average and you can barely tell that you even lift, so it’s ironic that you agree with his post. He would without a doubt call you a dyel.
Stay salty dyel
For me it's slightly oversized t-shirts.
this. but not some ripped up piece of shit... hanes beefy tees are like 5 bucks. wear a clean shirt
I'd like to think I'm in a good place bf% wise where I'm not too fat and also not too small. Shirts are loose, back/shoulders/traps still look better than average I guess.
The key is to train your trap muscles.
Which is fricking hilarious, because I used to see threads here all the time saying that the ideal aesthetic is to have no traps.
Depends on the length of the neck. Overtrained traps look better with a long neck, undertrained traps look better with a short neck.
Not a lot of men have long necks, so the majority of men would do better to undertrain traps; but they end up overtraining them
its definitely DYEL cope. its very easy to tell but maybe thats because i lift. Especially the legs, ppl who train legs are very easy to spot
fyi tom holland is 141 pounds. powershitters and dyels are seething
The best approach is to buy clothes that you're comfortable in first, and secondly, are clothes that you look like you understand the basics of male fashion and aesthetic. Going out of your way to flash your figure is autism, but if your figure sticks out of commonly worn clothing, you've won.
Normies are so easily impressed that even having the faintest hint of triceps will make them mire