True or False?
Personally I think it is a mix of COPE and Body Dysmorphia. Most people can instantly tell if you lift even in normal clothing and you don't have to be extremely buff for that.
True or False?
Personally I think it is a mix of COPE and Body Dysmorphia. Most people can instantly tell if you lift even in normal clothing and you don't have to be extremely buff for that.
If you wear anything form fitting you will look like you lift.
I don't wear loose clothes (tight, but not skin tight) and have good posture.
I'm not even jacked and people say I have nice pecs. LIfting will definitely point it out more, OP.
>think I’m still fat and dyel
>multiple coworkers at new job say I look ripped
Normies are easy to impress aren’t they?
nah you're just mentally ill man
Yeah I agree with you. Just cause people can't see each of your muscles individually doesn't mean your general shape isn't indicating a good physique.
Most men can tell. Most women can't.
Women can subconciously tell but they don't know why you look better.
>Most women can't.
Women have tell I look like I lift in average clothes and I'm barely Ottermode
Came here to post this. All the men I meet basically just assume I lift, like they won't even ask if I lift, they just ask shit about the gym or how long I've been lifting. I've had random men in bars compliment me. Not one woman has ever even mentioned my physique.
There's a world of difference between a grown man who bulks and prioritizes his back/traps vs a little 150lb joker that wants abs/obliques, and we all know it.
Yes
One is a fat frick
The other is healthy
Oh god trapshitter fat frick cope
does deadlifting make your penis grow past 4"?
I've been mistaken for an athlete more times than not, even in winter, unter heavy wool sweaters and leather jacket. Even in my profession people mistake me for some kind of athlete or exmil. I have been working out only for 2 years and have taken the neckpill. Make of that what you will.
>Make of that what you will.
I'm thinking that you made it
>and have taken the neckpil
Redpill me on this pill. I've half-assed some neck curls but dropped them because i thought it's moronic and there's no muscle there to grow
Your neck muscles actually grow incredibly fast. Grecoroman wrestler's have thick necks because of the constant resistance applied to them. What I do is stand at the end of my bench, place a 20lbs plate on my forehead and do 3 sets of 12 neck curls with 1 minute rest inbetween, after every workout. It's piss easy, my neck now sits at almost 16 inches unflexed and almost 18 inches flexed after a few months of proper training.
>con
I look like a total fricking dyel dweeb in my old id and passport photos
How did you grow without progressive overload?
don't do it
What do you mean?
I didn't need to. I started with 20lbs for 10 reps, now I just do 12 reps. I found out that I didn't have to progressively overload on the weight to get bigger. As I said, I measured my neck so I'm not talking out of my ass, the neckpill is that piss easy to swallow
neckpill is unironically moronic just do compounds
If your neck doesn't grow through compounds then you should take the neckpill. It is *easily* responsible for more aesthetic gains than any other single muscle/group. It's not even close, like the other guy said. People can see it in clothes or out, makes the shirts you wear look better, frames your face and makes it look sharper + leaner.
It takes 5 minutes to do and zero fatigue
Yes, it can work even without any weights and high reps. In your situation I'd just buy a brick or something heavy, wrap it in a towel and go to town. You can do it with from the edge of your bed. Just be careful to brace your neck, I've never had anything bad happen to me tho
Do you know why i used to get headaches the day after doing neck curls? I've had to stop 2 separate times because after a couple weeks of doing them every other day I'd get headaches
Dont have access to any pl8s cause shitty apartment gym, do you think if I lay a towel or some sort of padding and use a dumbell it'll work? You pilled me bro.
Just ball your fists and push down on your forehead to create resistance
>there's no muscle there to grow
Now you're the one being moronic. See those red things around this guys neck. That's muscles. You can grow any surface muscle in your body.
>I've half-assed some neck curls
You need to really work at it for a while, but neck is one of the easiest places to grow if you haven't ever trained it. You'll see result after like 3 sessions. Just do some unweighted reps until fatigue in different directions. It might take 100+ reps. Be careful with weights.
check'd.
Thx breh
interesting
does this help with pain and mobility?
It helped my headaches, they went from a few times a month to few times a year. It think it was mostly the increased bloodflow and less fatigue in day to day activities.
I'm sure it would help if you have mobility issues, but for me, my neck now feels less "mobile", heavier. Range is the same as before. Stronger and faster on the movements, but it feels like it's fighting against itself when I turn my head all the way to the side for example. Unironically feels like the terminator headturn, I can feel the hydraulics in my neck working.
neckpill me anon
Do you ever have neck spasms/pulls? I'm neckpilled but I stopped the curls and extensions because probably once a month while training neck I had a neck spasm while doing RDLs, bent barbell rows, or OHP.
Nta but I do seated db ohp (haven't pressed a bar in forever) and I used to tweak my neck all the time when bringing the weights down to only ear level (that's what everyone else did). The problems stopped when I went down 5lbs per side and started bringing them all the way down to my shoulders/collarbone on the negative.
Never had a neck issue doing rdls and I don't do bb rows so no comment there
I want to train my neck but I am legit scared of getting sleep apnea
I didn't have any, I sleep like a stone
The neck width thing leading to apnea is from fat people with fat necks
You can get sleep apnea without being fat, I'm 75kg and sometimes get it
I'm small as frick and I have a hard time finding something that isn't a tent on me (large) or way too tight (medium). My pecs make a lot of button-ups not fit well and flexing my shoulders would pop a button.
But fricking t-shirts? Every casual friday at the office someone will be like, "damn have you been lifting???"
Also Tom Holland is SMALL AS FRICK, he's just low bodyfat.
>Also Tom Holland is SMALL AS FRICK, he's just low bodyfat.
It's very strange how this silly little twink became the zoomer dream body. Shows you just how low the bar's fallen nowadays. 145lbs in a size small, no arms, zero back lol.
Looks buff tbh mate
Looks better than 99% of the population unironically
>Le body dysmorphia has arrived
Idk I think the body is more secondary to his whole persona and he is pretty lean. He’s oddly likeable so I actually get the holland hype
post body lardass
I'm a similar height and build to Holland, also an ex gymnast like him.
Maintaining this build is harder than you think. We're built like women, my cutting calories are so fricking low. If I eat like a normal human I start getting fat.
Dwarfmode is really the only way to live as a manlet
Roidhead cope
Nobody actually considers mr olympia palumboism festival participants good looking. Buff twink is the ideal male body
Depends on shoulders
Height Face Frame
This guy probably has it all.
With some dry fasting and ab work he would look kino.
Idk brah his torso and chest especially is looking pretty cursed
Go to your nearest mirror, flex the shit out of your lats, and congrats "only shoulders matter" posture has been achieved.
That guy is also in good shape, has good arm development (/fit/) Only real rough thing midsection, if I had to guess loose skin from loosing weight / general aging.
if he really feels that crappy about his body, he probably starts acting aspy when shirtless, thus disappointment.
There are good examples out there of people either born into too low a social class, or born with horrendous deformities that make working out futile. This isn't one of them (and unrelated, neither are celebrities / models, most are born into wealth and spend god-knows how much time and money on upkeep)
damn, if that homosexual had the will to lift a bit and cut, he would have a perfect physique.
It just means she has to hug you to find out.
False.
Wearing a normal 100% cotton tshirt shows that you lift.
135 pound behemoth right there
Women don't like a guy who looks like he lifts, they want a guy who is genetically fit with 0 effort
Ottermode looks like you don't even lift with a shirt on, that is ideal for girls
Bloatmax powershitter mode looks jacked even with a shirt on, girls find this intimidating which is a major turn off
how would you know what women like when you don’t attract any lmao
>girls
This is what you zoomers don't understand. High school and some college age girls think that's what they want, but grown women have a primal attraction to masculine men. They don't want femboys. They might think they do when they are young, but they wonder why the sex their pussy doesn't actually get wet and then one day the runt heir hands through some dudes chest hair and something wakes up in them.
I’m a 35 year old boomer and that’s cap. Being a strong fat is great for milfs and old women but cute skinny girls arent into that. If you’re tall and fat, a lot of hot latinas will like you even if you don’t lift. I’ve fricked over 50 women, mostly under 25.
How do you even meet these under 25 girls for sex?
Asking for a friend
You have to have a cool lifestyle that they want you in.
I’m still an ironic hipster
Be a fatass and attract skinny girls then. If it works for you stay fat.
>that's cap
What the frick does this even mean
maybe he likes hats or something
Something about bottles, I think.
I bet it's some Zoomer shit.
>35
>that's cap
Depends on skinny girls.
my girlfriend dumped her boyfriend of 8 years because he was an intellectual twink. She thought she wanted a nice boy who’d always be nice to her.
Dumped him because they didn’t have sex for years
Now she’s older she gets wet at the idea of men capable of violence
I think it depends on your glamour muscles. If you have a good cut or taper
Ie big chest and arms flat stomache.
People can tell you lift in clothes if:
>Wide shoulders.
>Massive chest
>Big Bi's
>Big tri's
People can't tell you lift if
>Big traps
>Big quads.
>Well defined back
flat stomach is massively underrated in terms of attractiveness and getting that sexual masculine look. not even abs. And it make the rest of your physique look bigger and stronger. a belly is massive turnoff if you're looking to be "hot". just imagine being a girl and going down on some dude and he's got a sweaty soft gut right in your face. not usually a big deal once you're in a relationship though
This is incredibly true. If you have a flat stomach and noticeable muscle mass besides that you're literally an adonis in the eyes of people without BDD. It's honestly a huge pain because being strongfat feels fricking amazing.
>It's honestly a huge pain because being strongfat feels fricking amazing.
Yeah. I love how my lifts are during bulking times, but I love how I look while cutting. Truly a paradox.
This.
Men aren’t supposed to be fat. They don’t have milkers or thighs, that’s for women
I wouldn’t say it’s massively underrated I’d say everyone’s a fat frick now so people are delusional about how fat they are and dieting is unironically harder than going to the gym
>People can't tell you lift if
>>Big traps
moron alert
False.
If you lift, chances are your traps and arms are big enough to be noticeable in a shirt that fits.
If you're ottermode, then yeah people can't tell.
That's why I don't lift.
I can't tell I lift even without a shirt on.
As you get bigger it gets bit uncomfortable to wear clothes that are tight. But you can generally tell someone lifts even in larger clothes because they have traps. Over the last year my pants size has gone down but my shirt size has gone up because the trap growth and the muscles to the side and upper back really change how shuts fit you.
I'm not exactly a huge guy but you can generally tell that I lift. And I have an absolutely terrible frame and bone structure.
I think some of you are so out of touch with how terrible normies look. Normies will literally come up to me and compliment me on how good I look with a shirt off.
And yet you look dyel. Keep lifting though, you're going places.
The best clothes to show off are chino pants and polo shirts.
He pants show the butt and quads, while the polo shirt are tighter on the arms than t-shirts and the button up complements the chest and traps very well.
depends on your age and where you live. polos aren't that big here and comes across a little try hard. the ideal is to show off as much of your (good) physique as possible while looking comfortable and not trying
I adore the polo aesthetic for myself, but I hate anything tight. And anything with sleeves, especially polos, feel like they're compressing my arms.
I now wear sleeveless and baggy trousers if I can get away with it, i.e. a non-formal event.
Daily reminder not to take advice from a trt troony.
wear loose, modest clothing. If they can't tell you're jacked when you're in that clothing, then you need to keep going.
Me compared to one of the moderators of the motorcycle discord on IST
Good transformation bro
I just wear whatever to the gym tbh been wearing the same pair of dirty swimming trunks for weeks and I wear whatever t shirt is laying on the ground
A flat stomach and visible muscle definiton, especially in the arms is enough to look like you life in a shirt
The average guy on the street is 25-30% BF so if you are like 15% BF with vascularity and a flat stomache you look like adonis in comparison
You dont walk around naked moron
If you wear anything form fitting with a belly that shit is visible through your shirt
Someone post a pic of Julian from TPB you can tell he lifts w/ his black t shirt on
bros when a femoid tells me that she knows that im hitting the gym but doesn't compliment me what does it mean?
For example i will order a sandwich and the femoid will go:
>Will you need double protein for that?
>Why do you ask?
>because you are a gym guy
But its never direct and they just notice. im i just an ugly dude who lifts?
probably
im not a virgin but i only frick 2 girls per year MAX, no dating apps tho, and this year i was lucky.
ok
Put up shirtless pics on Tinder to see how many likes you get
They're trying to get you to spend more money
It's called small talk, anon.
You're not ugly but you are sperging at the slightest amount of basic human interaction, which is worse than being ugly in terms of getting a gf.
>It's called small talk, anon.
>You're not ugly but you are sperging at the slightest amount of basic human interaction, which is worse than being ugly in terms of getting a gf.
underrated comment. No wonder it flies over the head of the average ISTner
What's the name of that type of shirt
Depends on what you wear. If you’re wearing something that’s baggy then you’ve gotta be pretty massive to tell.
My brother says I look like I exercise a lot, but don't look like I lift.
But I've had cute girls say I look like I work out.
So idk,
What's important is my blood pressure/BPM went from about 140/80 to 110/60- 70bpm to 50bpm resting.
Health>looks
You have visible definition in your forearms and look lean without looking frail. That's fit enough for most women.
I wear loose fitting clothes usually and I constantly have women either say “you must work out a lot” or ask if I am or was in the military.
All you need is big traps and a thick neck.
True. If I want to lift shirtless, then I will, and no one can tell me not to.
>not home gym sun maxxing for T boost always
ishygddt
True and false. If you are an insecure fitcel, then you will probably wear oversized baggy shirts that make you look dyel regardless unless you are a tren monster. If you wear properly fitted shit like slim cut shirts, then you will look like you lift even at twunk mode
Depends. If you're looking from a distance then no. However if you're up close or even just observe someone walking, you can usually see very well whether they're built like a gay or a big guy. Admittedly, sometimes it's still not clear whether it's fat or muscle, but then, when you look at expected novice/intermediate/expert etc. lifts for various weights sometimes it almost appears fat IS muscle.
I wear my pajamas to the gym. Saves me the extra clothes on laundry day
what the frick is that
garloid
newbiegit Black person cattle
>doesn't know what a garloid is
pathetic flesh automaton
what the frick is that
Should i buy this shirt bros?
ngl really over the top slav shirts could be hilarious
>look yoked in my schmedium muttmart T-shirts
>look like curdled pig vomit shirtless
Thats just how you are right now !
Now keep exercising and dieting etc, dont look in the mirror every single day (not seeing improvements lowers motivation, usually) but rather just once a week, and youll look good in Gaymart t-shirt as well as (or even better) shirtless
Stay strong anons
maybe hes some built-fat/strongnormie hybrid ?
I’m 6’3 and for me it was the opposite. I looked pretty good with clothes on- wide shoulders, huge chest, relatively small waist. But I had a higher body fat percentage than it looked. Still remember in undergrad when I brought a girl back
>it’s fat not muscle with a disappointed look on her face
Still scored though.
But yeah I’d say this applies more to ottermode types. Builtfat looks better with clothes
yes it's the classic natty dilemma of looking swole in clothes or great shirtless. honestly i've given up on built fat and love the leanness i've attained. face gains, cardio gains, not as sweaty, happier and more confidence, more attention from women and never feel bad having to "expose" what's underneath. do miss the progress and diet tho
To look like you lift in clothes, just be broad shouldered and slim waisted.
Of course, this is impossible for powershitters.
need to hit your arms more
Why is this even a question? Obviously it's false. My back and chest are so thick that I just burst out of my t-shirts/sweatshirts even hoodies that are one size-up. And if your arms are hugging the sleeves that's another tell-tale sign that someone lifts. (excluding being a fatfrick or wearing extra small).
also i think some of the coping dyels mix up looking like you lift with having abs.
this guy isn't the worst offender but he looks pretty much on par shirtless and shirt on. that's a nice normie summer body but far from looking like a buff lifter shirtless. the shirt hides your abs but that's pretty much about it. the rest looks the same with or without
Depends on what you wear.
agree'd, traps, forearm, bicep veins, the way your shirt hangs off your chest or back. not being a fat soft b***h looking homosexual. regardless of looseness or fit of your clothes will show.
in sweden there's 'slim fit', slim fit XL is like L that emphasizes your sick gains
wear pike shirt, their sleeves stick to your arm instead of hanging loose
>went to a new job
>had to lift some things
>Auschwitz mode coworker says "don't do it anon you are much to weak haha leave that to the strong guys here"
>I've been working out for years and thought I had a good body
It hurts bros
He's just jealous, anon.
If you're still 8nsecure, then go bearmode.
But watch how he then calls you fat.
He is joking, don't be a b***h
100% cope from people who don't want to lift. I'm average height, athletic (so not particularly big) and every single person at my job commented on my physique
what is that anime?
Bill Of The Beach
Angel Beats, I'd say it's pretty good if you don't watch much anime.
troony Tales
YEAHHHH baby you should look like you lift in and out of your shirts. People can definetly tell with me either way
Depends,if you have prominent traps,neck,chest,side delts,forearms and biceps your average person will notice. Even more if you wear a shirt that you had since you were 13 they will notice your lats. But if you're a jacket wearing type of guy the only thing they'll notice is your neck,traps and probably chest.
forearm veins gang can't lose
I was walking outside in a shirt shortly after a workout and a girl mired me, although I'm not big. I have wide shoulders and bulky forearms.
People can tell instantly. I'm 6'2 with broad shoulders so that helps for sure.
When I started my last job which wasn't home office I was spammed with moronic fitness jokes and I never once mentioned or talked about anything fitness related at all, never mentioned I worked out or nothing.
eg
>in elevator with female boss and another female, they are talking about drinks they like, boss tells the other female "hehe anon probably only drinks whey"
>the males in office took turns to change 20L water gallon, when it was my turn for the first time someone asked if I knew how to do it, another male coworker answered out loud "look at the size of his arms, he can change it with one hand!"
All that wearing a tshirt and jeans.
looking forward to things returning to more in person. not getting enough daily moggings in
As a natural the leaner you are the harder it is to look fit in clothes unless you are wearing 1 to 2 sizes smaller than your regular size.
>nobody believes i lift on a lifting forum
A lotta' homies here need to learn about fashion and fit. Slim flit, etc. I just had a woman complement me on my physique while wearing a stretch blue double breasted blazer + t shirt.
>Lift
>Qt coworkers can't tell because of the oversized lab coats we have at work
Does anyone else know this feel?
Wtf? I lift in a shirt and anyone can tell if they come to the gym? Should I train shirtless?