People have been eating bread for millions of years and all of a sudden some meatheads on a laotian flyfishing forum claim that its actually bad fo...

People have been eating bread for millions of years and all of a sudden some meatheads on a laotian flyfishing forum claim that it’s actually bad for you and you shouldn’t eat it if you care about your body

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    not the same bread you moron

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    h'es just like me fr

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >People have been eating bread for millions of years
    no they have not you dumb retard, they've been eating bread for 10,000 years or less, and they also weren't eating shit bread from shartmart. grain based diets are a hallmark of agricultural civilization and it produces weak people

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cope ketotard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >grain based diets are a hallmark of agricultural civilization and it produces weak people
      Yet those "weak people" slaughtered tribal hunter gatherers at will on sight. This is same sort of cringe as pagan larpers saying Christianity made White people weak then crying how Christians slaughtered or force converted pagans. Honk honk to you, sir.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Yet those "weak people" slaughtered tribal hunter gatherers at will on sight.
        That's more technology / civilization, not the peoplr themselves who are more like the domesticted pets of technological civilization.
        You're like a cancer patient who's weirdly proud of how good his cancer is at spreading and destroying so many people like himself each year.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        a hunter gatherer is more fit and skilled and everything about his body is better than his graincel peer living in a society. And, seeing as this is IST, that's all that matters. This is like saying goyslop is good for you because a fat burger can drone strike someone.

        Those weak people had the cancer of civilization behind them, it was inevitable. Don't be stupid. We live in the situation we're born into but if you have the choice between eating like a hunter-gatherer or eating like everyone else then you should make the choice that's best for your body

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ketotards are retarded, but the bread people ate up until the industrial revolution was actually bad for you due to the way the flour was ground (flour contained pebbles, fucked your teeth)

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not a ketotard, but you're completely wrong about agriculture.
    >Contrary to popular belief it caused significantly more hunger than hunting / gathering ever did.
    >The way archeologists pinpoint when a society switched to agriculture is literally to look for bone markers for health problems (tooth decay, growth arrest (Harris lines), anemia (porotic hyperostosis), scurvy, rickets, osteoperosis, etc.)
    >Basically created the concept of poverty.
    >Significantly decreased average leisure time.
    >Generally promotes a soulless, sedentary yet high stress lifestyle disconnected from the rest of the natural world.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So how are those hunter gatherers doing? Have they invented the wheel yet?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they invented not getting cancer alzheimers diabetes and obesity

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          nice so they can live even longer and use their good memory to remember that they never evolved or invented anything

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >nice so they can live even longer and use their good memory to remember that they never evolved or invented anything

            You didn't evolve at all, your ancestors got buck broken into living in a society where they constantly farmed, and received free wives, there's literally NO evolutionary pressure in such a society.

            The rich people got time to be creative, and you and your blood didn't see ANY benefits from that until the last 100 years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nice so they can live even longer and use their good memory to remember that they never evolved or invented anything

        >The society you live in spirals out of control and consunes most of the planet while you get autoimmune diseases, cancer, anxiety, and depression
        >The society you live in remains simple and self-contained while you live a healthy and satisfied life
        Both sound good, how do I choose?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Consumes most of the planet
          Jej, unironically go outside dumb ass bro.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Outside where 80% of the night sky's celstial bodies have since been obscured by a smokescreen of artificial light and atmospheric industrial waste byproducts?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you live in a city which is <.1% of the earths surface you stupid ass bozo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                are you retarded? You think 99.9% of the earth's surface has clear skies?

                Even where it is clear you see a satellite every ten seconds

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can't see satellites retard. No amount of your fucking deer meat only diet can give you 100x vision.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I keep getting trolled epic style

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are unironically the stupidest person ITT

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                7/10 pretty good troll post

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you could absolutely see old Iridium satellites and still see the ISS you retard

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How many hunter gatherers do you see around today? Even on their shit hole reservations they eat the same shit as civilized folk.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, because the cancer of agriculture consumed the planet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Eating food that is not the native people's native diet causes face malformations and messed up teeth. T

            The gnomish people in that picture would have eaten sprouted whole ancient grains that would have been extremely low sugar. You would despise healthy bread if forced to eat something other than the highly processed sugary, gmo crap they feed us now.

            On top of that the garden gnomes went to war constantly because they needed land. They need more land constantly because the sheep they would heard ate plants down to the root and they could not graze on the same land long.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You can choose how much sugar you put in your bread anon. Most recipes only call for a few grams anyway.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >how much sugar in your bread
                do amerifats really?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sugar slows yeast activity. Alot of people think it's food for yeast but they make tier own sugar. Italian bread has a few grams usually. Baguettes and sour doughs don't tho, but Frenchmen are fags and communist sympathizers so fuck off French. Verification not even required.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Our bread fucking sucks, shit taste like cake and it’s awful. Even pasta sauce has added sugar

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >sugar in bread
                Americans are disgusting.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the society where humankind advances as a species
          >the society where humankind stays on the level of animals
          Make your choice, are you a man or an animal.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Losing your humanity to be a part of some bug man, hive mind workforce is much more desirable than living a life of strength and meaning. Fuck outta here chink

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They didn't need to

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >more people starved
      >actively damaged peoples health
      >made cavemen poor
      >gave cavemen less time for IST
      >disconnected cavemen from the natural world
      Why did they do it bros? Were our ancestors retarded?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They were tricked by the garden gnome. The garden gnome's deceptions did not start with the making-up of "Jesus".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Multiple theories for why a lot of human civilizations around the world transitioned from hunting and gathering into agriculture ~10,000 years ago, the some being: 1. as human groups grew in size and they started driving animal species to extinction, hunting and gathering became less sustainable, 2. end of the ice age made soil softer and more fertile, making it possible, 3. hunters/gatherers who had extra time on their hands had the chance to experiment with domestication, 4. the ideas of ownership and private property turned nomadic groups sedentary, making agriculture a necessity as a main source of food

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Multiple theories for why a lot of human civilizations around the world transitioned from hunting and gathering into agriculture ~10,000 years ago, the some being: 1. as human groups grew in size and they started driving animal species to extinction, hunting and gathering became less sustainable, 2. end of the ice age made soil softer and more fertile, making it possible, 3. hunters/gatherers who had extra time on their hands had the chance to experiment with domestication, 4. the ideas of ownership and private property turned nomadic groups sedentary, making agriculture a necessity as a main source of food

        Quality post. Yes, it is in fact a strangely still open to this day question for why the neolithic revolution happened.
        Most people assume it happened because it was simply better for humans to farm instead of hunting e.g. it provided greater food security or increased their nutrition. Yet the reality is agriculture did the exact opposite and dramatically reduced food security and a variety of health measures.
        So pretty interesting topic whatever the explanation/s is or are.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've encountered an intriguing hypothesis that has merit. Have you heard of the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis? It's been promoted by Graham Hancock and popularized by Bright Insight's Youtube channel. Really fascinating.

          Essentially, the hypothesis is that a meteor struck the Earth and extinguished many of the species thought to be hunted to extinction by humans and destroyed any human civilization that may have existed (Atlantis, possibly located in present day Mauritania, for instance) and any remains have since been consumed by the sands of time. The Younger Dryas boundary is much like the KT boundary that was the first clue to the extinction of the dinosaurs. The Hiawatha crater, a probable impact site, was found in Greenland in the last few years.

          Regardless of the timing of the impact, the Hiawatha crater is, as I understand it, almost certainly the origin of the Younger Dryas boundary, which represents scorched Earth covering North America, South America, Europe, and the Middle East (at least). The crater has been dated to be ~11,000 - 100,000 years old.

          Anatomically modern humans survived a cataclysm equal to that of the dinosaurs. Fuck.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this map is so retarded it is actually mind blowing
      farming and domestication of animals was rampant in the middle east and west asia 8000y ago too, europeans today are on average 60% descended from farmers
      the bulk of the human population during the agricultural revolution was... in the same places where agriculture was practised lol

      unless you're an eskimo or australian aboriginal you are adapted to eating carbs

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >People have been sacrificing their daughters to the sun god since the beginning of time and all of a sudden some pasty retards from far away claim it's actually a bad thing and the sun will somehow rise anyway
    I eat bread but your reasoning is stupid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're next on the altar.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >People have been sacrificing their daughters
      >daughters

      You're next on the altar.

      >You're next on the altar.
      Are you saying he in fact WILL be a woman?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Millions?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ketofags are as cult-like as veganfags, both are cancer.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol genetic engineered wheat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. The guy who genetically engineered modern wheat got a Nobel prize for it. Only problem is it’s not as digestible as it’s predecessor. But who cares about gluten sensitivity when you’re in the middle of a famine caused by an African civil war. The idea was that there would be more food available in the world so poor Africans wouldn’t starve. Viola, Nobel prize.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People have been eating nutritionally rich real bread made from manually processed ingredients coming from genetically unmodified unselected breeds of plants for thousands of years, and all of a sudden ~~*(the food industry*~~) floods the global market with massive amounts of unbeliavably bad, nutritionally poor, super processed products made with the cheapest and easiest to mass produce ingredients they can come up with
    So yeah mate, people did eat their bread for quite a while but you're missing some details there
    Bread now is very different from 5000 years ago, and the great majority of """bread""" you find is straight up garbage. You do whatever you want, I'll keep being mindful of what I eat, thank you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are there recipes for bread resembling that of our ancestors? Are there any brands of bread sold that are like that?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kinda depends how far back your talking. There are serving cook books from Roman times. And archeologists have analyzed ancient breads. Ingredients were flour water and yeast. Health wise replicating using old strains of wheat and what not is definitely more trouble than it's worth unless you have a YouTube channel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Damn. Should bread just be avoided then?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No? As in all things on fit if you have to ask it probably doesn't apply. I doubt you live your life in the most optimal way in all aspects that the bottleneck is eating a sandwich for lunch once in a while.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I doubt you live your life in the most optimal way in all aspects that the bottleneck is eating a sandwich for lunch once in a while.
              One of the most reasonable posts on this thread.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but like, in general we use grains because they're cheap and easy and we can grow them. It's not like it's poison, so you don't have to really avoid it so much, but nevertheless, if you can eat something better then grain based stuff is subpar in my opinion

            personally I don't buy bread anymore because one, I don't have it very much when I do buy a loaf and it goes bad before I can use it, and two, I have stuff like sweet potatoes or whatever with my meat and I never felt like I really needed bread. But I won't stop myself from having a sandwich or whatever sometimes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Soak your grains and use sourdough with long fermentations to make the grains more digestible

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >”there’s a psyop where people are promoting keto”
    >nonstop pro carb shit from the same gay using his reddit ketolard crap
    Really makes you think

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People have been drinking beer for thousands of years and some people claim that drinking litres of vodka per day is actually bad for you and you shouldn't drink it if you care about your body.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OnlyUseMeBread

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I eat bread every day, but the bread we eat today is made from GMO wheat that bears little resemblance to wheat that our ancestors ate.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's probably a difference between bread made at home from wheat grown and milled a mile away without industrial machinery vs what's on the market today for mass consumption. Regardless of all that, I lost the most weight cutting out breads and pastas. Potatoes, meat, veg and fruit in balanced proportions. Touch of cream in the coffee and eggs for dairy, but that was it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Eggs for dairy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There's probably a difference between bread made at home from wheat grown and milled a mile away without industrial machinery vs what's on the market today for mass consumption
      there's almost no difference actually, the biggest difference is whether or not you use the whole grain
      but white bread and whole wheat bread were a thing in the medieval age it's not something that requires advanced machinery

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna let you dumb illiterate diseased mongoloids in on a little fitness secret. Fats AND sugar are both bad for you!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nah bro that's crazy talk
      it's just [whichever macronutrient I happen to like the leaast] that's the problem

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Civtards never change.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >millions of years
    You're literally retarded, humans have only eaten bread for a few thousand years which a blink of an eye against the tens of millions of years that it took for humans to evolve a particular physiology with highly specific diets and digestive tracts meant for meat, nuts, fruits, berries, seeds, leafy greens, and sometimes legumes. Grain has not been used on a mass scale until pretty much yesterday in the evolutionary timescale, which is why we are profoundly poorly-adapted to eat it. God it is so fucking annoying how retarded people like you are, coming onto this board shitting all over it with your gay ideas that you got literally without reading or researching anything

    Thanks for your retarded opinion, go back to school

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Go eat it then. No one gives a fuck in the least if you want to eat the garbage they call "bread" these days. Try iy. Go go buy some at the store. Eat it. No one will care. I'm not going to eat and no one should care either and if they do they can go die in a sewage pipe.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People have also been eating and boiling water out of lead containers for thousands of years, maybe you should go do that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >people inhaled asbestos for fun. why don't you do that
      do you really think this is a good argument?
      the people who ate bread all the time absolutely mogged hunter gatherers.
      bread was never an issue and never will be.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the people who ate bread all the time absolutely mogged hunter gatherers.
        Only if you conflate size of their societies with individual health.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    White bread is shit for you, the rest is fine

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >millions of years
    I don't think that's quite right anon

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