Why is this the case? I've seen this claim spouted here and there but no one ever explains why.
From what I've seen it's usually what the raw meat advocates say to hate on the vegans.
Plant protein isn't real protein
Why is this the case? I've seen this claim spouted here and there but no one ever explains why.
From what I've seen it's usually what the raw meat advocates say to hate on the vegans.
For protein you want to look at the amino acid profile. Plant protein generally have terrible amino acid profiles and are harder to digest. Meat and dairy products generally have the best amino acid profiles which makes them complete protein.
Exception is mycoprotein which is nearly as good as meat, but rarely found since it's a weird frankenfood
>myco
I assume this means fungus? What fungus would even have significant amount of protein in it?
Yeah myco is fungi. Mushrooms are about 15% protein by mass IIRC on average across species. Can't say off the top of my head what species are best for protein content.
Mycoprotein is better than plant protein because fungi are closer to animals than plants. They consume oxygen and expire CO2 like animals, and chemically they are a lot closer to us than plants.
Adding mushrooms to your diet is obviously good, but I wouldn't expect you can get 100% of your daily protein needs from them without other nutritional deficiencies appearing from the lack of meat.
A huge amount of a mushroom is just water which makes the mushroom shrink when you cook it. 100g of mushrooms is actually quite small once the water weight is gone.
Personally I like slicing them thin and frying them in a dry pan to prevent them from going slimy. Their water content is high enough that no oil is needed on a medium heat.
Best species for protein is psylocibe cubensis. You can't find it that easily online but in some areas and probably in Canada it grows and you will see some listings. I'd say eat about 80 grams dry for a decent protein portion with a meal.
Its one spamming schizo who worships carnivore diet grifters and believes keto allows weight loss with unlimited calorie consumption
Look at how similar these filenames are
I literally just pulled the chart from google images you schizo retard. Where am I wrong?
>Me enjoying a yummy bowl of Barley and Lentils
Chilli and beans is great though.
Plant protein is estimated from crude nitrogen which isn't actually entirely protein
Even vegan doctors aren't healthy. Pic related. That's how bad for you plant-based foods are.
That’s a normal old man
he's 35
Normal for vegans.
Yeah, most omnivores are fat fucks
Humans have always been omnivores and have been fine with it all this time, until processed foods became ubiquitous and suddenly people started turning into fat fucks. Vegans see this and determined it's actually the animal protein causing obesity and not the shitty processed diets paired with sedentary lifestyles. If you have to take artificial supplements to get base nutrients, your diet is wrong.
Not my problem. Omnivores are fat and whole food plant based people are not. It’s that simple
>Omnivores are fat and whole food plant based people are not.
People in gulags were thin, too. It don't mean much on its own.
Did we evolve to this point eating grass? No.
And there's your answer.
All animal protein comes from plants
Yeah but ruminants do all the work like an oil refinery. You wouldn't put crude in a Ferrari right?
200g protein
160g from animal sources
40g from plant sources
Every single day
As long as you eat a balanced diet you will get all your nutrients
Also, specifically in the case of protein, your body is able to convert unused amino acids into ones you need.
bio availability energie transfer cost
My cells structure is the same as animals not plants. Plants are fucking gay.
find me a single natty bodybuilder that looks impressive
i meant to say natty vegan bodybuilder
mike o'hearn
too much fiber in lentils. Can't even get 50g of protein from them before im shitting my guts out
t. Gutlet
yea 2 years vegan did that
That doesn’t make any sense
You're made of animal protrin so animal protein is the optimsl protein. Simple as.
So you should eat humans?
By that logic, other people should be the ideal protein source, since it's closest to what you're made of.
Veganism is an absolutely miserable lifestyle and this is a big reason why.
Miserable? I'm having a blast lol
Case in point.
>the American Heart Association, American Cancer Society, American College of Cardiology, the NIH and their European counterparts are deliberately lying to you about everything
Yes.
based schizo making unfalsifiable claims about reality
These so-called authorities are corporate mouthpieces and nothing more. They do not exist to guide the average person towards good health and never have; their solitary purpose is to pave the way for conglomerates and the medical industrial complex to continue making record profits at the expense of the average person. As far as I'm concerned, they can go to Hell, and you right with them.
you seem like a mentally sound person, definitely not full of anger and resentment towards authority figures
You talk like anger and resentment towards authority figures is unwarranted, as though you've been asleep for the past couple of years.
>public organizations oversold the vaccine
>even to this today, the only group for whom it may have been unnecessary was for young men
>DAT MEAN ME DOUBT EVERYTHING AUTHORITY FIGURES SAID EVER!!
you'll mature one day (or not)
Uh-huh.
time to take your pills
you must be new here if you think the covide fuckery is the only reason anons on IST don't trust authority
they are untrustworthy, look at the members of the boards of all the organisations you listed, look at their employment history
come back and tell us how the connections they have to the industries they are supposedly impartially regulating is nothing to worry about because everybody is fundamentally a good guy and bribery isn't real
>doesn't know that there's a "conflict of interest" section at the bottom of every peer-reviewed published study
jesus the average age of this board is literally 19
>thinks paper prevents corruption when there's hundreds of billions in profits at stake
You're a fool or playing the fool.
Be realistic.
I genuinely don't know how anybody can defend systemically corrupt organizations unless they were devoting themselves to being a counter-contrarian for lack of a better hobby.
IST is full of schizos who think the American Heart Association, American Cancer Society, American College of Cardiology, the NIH and their European counterparts are deliberately lying to you about everything and that eating tons of meat is actually good for you.
DO come here for memes and to shitpost.
DO NOT come here for legit advice.
>fit/ is full of schizos who think the American Heart Association
you mean the org founded by the makers of vegetable oil shortening, which didn't need to exist before vegetable oils?
that american heart association?
read a book, our dietary guidelines are what they are because LBJ said "whatever, go with the guy with the most PR behind him, i don't care."
read the sydney study that they literally sat on for 40 years because it disproved all their bs
Have you been asleep for the past three years?
The problem it has is that often a part of the same plant disrupts use of protein.
Imma need that picrels recipe famalam
>Uh-huh.
Yawn.
@70897654
projection
@70897655
see, this is why your unfalisifable arguments lead nowhere. they're founded on emotion. you're a woman
If I provided evidence, you would handwave it. Not going to get into a prolonged argument with a schizo redditor who is a status quo dicksucker until his last breath, sorry.
okay let's see this evidence. guarantee you're bluffing
it better not be that JFK jr book that's 80% newspaper clippings
No it makes no difference.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358922/pdf/sports-07-00012.pdf
>To summarize, our data suggest that whey and pea proteins promote similar strength, performance, body composition, and muscular adaptations
>https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2382/htm
>no differences found between pea and whey proteins
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
>A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33905293/
>Despite marked differences in habitual nutrient intake, healthy, young vegan and omnivorous men did not differ regarding vascular and skeletal muscle structure and function, or cardiovascular fitness.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7312446/
>A practical application is that consuming plant protein can support strength and muscle development comparably to whey protein
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
>A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.
Real world examples beg to differ. Nobody who isn't functioning at a 600lb Life level of mental illness can tolerate suffering the mental and physical decay that comes with a vegan diet for more than a few years, and the ones who do are either sneaking in eggs and fish when nobody is looking or they look like they're about to be put on a slab.
Evidence of authorities being untrustworthy? LOL
>studies? Nah I'll only except ANECDOTES
You're fucking retarded. have a nice day
Studies can be carried out to say anything that the authors want them to and as the replication crisis has demonstrated, their basis in reality is dubious at best and they generally have no applicability to the real world. What really counts is experience.
>replication crisis exists to varying degrees for some studies and some fields
>THROW EVERY STUDY OUT
based, time to start smoking
>DUDE EVERYONE IS LYING TO YOU IM NOT A SCHIZO BTW
you're honestly too far gone to be argued with. studies I like are legit, every other study is false. organizations' views cannot evolve with the science, they're just trying to fool us. you're a textbook schizo
there's hundreds of billions in profits on pretty much every health issue. I'm sure you believe eggs are good for you. did you know a majority of studies on eggs are funded by the egg board?
Grains, sugar, seed oils, and processed food are far more profitable than whole foods animal products, and you know this. Those industries have much more power and sway as well as the blessing of billionaires and governments worldwide. le meat and dairy lobbies are no match for those juggernauts even on their best days.
How about you show flaws in the methodology instead of spouting bullshit?
>read first study
>literally only 15 people participate in it with vast differences in height, weight and age
Lmao, why are studies posted here always so fucking garbage?
>Lmao, why are studies posted here always so fucking garbage?
It's not about quality, it's about quantity. Makes for a better gish-gallop.
Im not a plant so why the fuck would I even count plants as anything but something to bulk my turd out for when im wanting to lay a clogger.
>grains are more profitable than animal products
holy shit... guy is such a neet he's never even walked into a supermarket before
>net profit
Don't bother. The concept of net profit is too complex for that gay's walnut brain.
correction. grains are more profitable than real, grassfed animal products that don't have microplastics and xenoestrogens in
Is this protein quality? serious question.
One of the best options on a vegan diet. It has a very good essential aminoacid profile (a ceral + a legume), but still falls on the problem of vegetable protein digestibility.
Cool, thanks. I'm not in a vegan diet, I like to eat pretty much everything, but I specially like this meal.
>1 meat empanada
>bowl of lentil stew
>glass of malbec
>5°C outside
Peak comfy argie winter