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  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    there isn't actually any point in going to the gym past like a year into training. I just go because I like lifting heavy.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This but two years

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/CfIA127.jpg

        there isn't actually any point in going to the gym past like a year into training. I just go because I like lifting heavy.

        >there isn't actually any point in going to the gym past like a year into training
        The how I will stay in shape?
        I like going to the gym.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm still nowhere near 1/2/3/4

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This but two years

      This but in the afterlife

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's why along with weights, you should join an MMA gym. After two years you'd be fit as and be able to fight. The cardio is far superior than doing your own thing at a regular gym as well. Most MMA gyms will have all the weights you need anyway. I wasted years in a commercial gym when I should've just joined a local club.

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    women only become dateable when they're varbies

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Your baseline protein needs dont change until you get into your old age or you compete in something.
    When you look at optimal protein intake for noobs vs 2-3 years in, the number of grams doesn't change with lean body mass increase. It's around 0.8g/pound of bodyweight for noobs and 0.65g/pound for the 2-3 year experienced group.
    It's shown that the elderly have higher protein requirements to build muscle well but your protein requirements also go up if you're doing endurance events or you're cutting severely for something like a prize fight or bodybuilding competition.
    If you're not in those 3 camps then stop stressing about protein needs beyond baseline. If you needed 150g per day at the start you'll still need 150g per day 5 years into your training.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      i don't think everyone is going to make it

      https://i.imgur.com/9E3UIyc.jpg

      Hype is overrated, if you need metal blaring in your ears, smelling salts stuffed up your asshole, 7 different brands of preworkout, and the correct MINDSET to push your reps, you're prolly on a good path towards snapping your shit.
      No music, or calm ambience, no stimulants, and a calm, focused demeanor will net you much better results, and keep you from egolifting yourself into a torn rotator.

      https://i.imgur.com/XaJkIw2.png

      Calisthenic and some cardio is all you need to impress woman and ahead of 98% population that is fat and sick nowadays

      The only good repsonses

      Other answers are gay and/or retarded

      Here's my tip: Any method will work, if you push yourself every time and you're consistent, you'll achieve your goal.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        that pic is so brutal its ridiculous

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          It means that it's all in your head incel.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/yC50WNt.jpg

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          The only good repsonses

          Other answers are gay and/or retarded

          Here's my tip: Any method will work, if you push yourself every time and you're consistent, you'll achieve your goal.

          It's honestly the best virgin vs chad. I snicker at it every time.

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Women should only do cardio + light machine movements at high reps

    • 6 days ago
      Coon man

      https://i.imgur.com/ucxzCy8.jpg

      There is no reason for a woman to be weak.

      The duality of man.
      is retarded tbh. It's not like they are going to get huge muscles. A woman will never be muscular to the point of not looking attractive, assuming she is natty.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >thinks high reps are less hypertrophic than low reps
      lmaaaaaooooooooo

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    i don't think everyone is going to make it

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you can bench 405+ you're on steroids.

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you’re above 15% bf your non bw lifts don’t count.
    If you’re below 15% bf your body weight lifts don’t count

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Saber is a better IST waifu than Mordred. Actually, almost anybody is

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      she is so fucking cute why cant she be real

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous
        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
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          Men only want one thing and its fucking disgusting

          I want to lick and huff her pantyhose clad feet.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/GrjBcif.jpg

          she is so fucking cute why cant she be real

          https://i.imgur.com/O97smFs.jpg

          Saber is a better IST waifu than Mordred. Actually, almost anybody is

          https://i.imgur.com/BniRthr.jpg

          If saber and mordred have the same body, there is only one logical conclusion.

          [...]
          I want to lick and huff her pantyhose clad feet.

          i wanna cuddle her so bad

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            You just need to Emiyamaxx bro
            No alarm clock only waking up with sheer force of will
            Cook all of your own meals, Japanese diet
            Daily high jump cardio
            Quit your gym and get a part time warehouse job. Get paid to lift instead of paying
            Think about swords constantly

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              Doin't forget archery for upper back workout and nightly cuckshed meditations.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Emiyamaxx
                >cuckshed meditations
                Isn't he a harem lord? I was mad enough when my yuri e-boi anime turned more and more into a harem.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/GrjBcif.jpg

      she is so fucking cute why cant she be real

      https://i.imgur.com/0cZtPCg.jpg

      Men only want one thing and its fucking disgusting

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      pretty sure that’s a fact and not controversial

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      If saber and mordred have the same body, there is only one logical conclusion.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ketogenic diets work and there is substantial pressure from large industrial groups to bury this fact.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Keto is the most shilled diet of the last 2 decade lol. If anything, industry wants you to do keto.

      https://i.imgur.com/eh9FuTP.png

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      The duality of man.
      is retarded tbh. It's not like they are going to get huge muscles. A woman will never be muscular to the point of not looking attractive, assuming she is natty.

      >. A woman will never be muscular to the point of not looking attractive, assuming she is natty.
      Wrong. Too much corework and you can say bye bye to that hourglass waist. Just one example.

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I find the most erotic part of the woman to be the tummy

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Optimal protein requirements go down slightly the longer you've been lifting. Think about it, nonlifters are supposed to have like 50g a day. A new lifter is maybe gaining 0.5lb of muscle a week so you need to fuel that. But an advanced lifter who can gain 2lb of muscle in a year probably doesn't need that much of a protein surplus. Anyway it's just a theory I had

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >A new lifter is maybe gaining 0.5lb of muscle a week so you need to fuel that.
      How in the FUCK do people do that? I've done PPL at a caloric surplus for about 5 months now and my lifts have gone up somewhat, but there's no way I've gained anywhere close to 12.5lbs of muscle.

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If gender roles were reversed and women were all getting IST to protect their loved ones, I would have no problem being some woman's twink bf getting dommed by them in bed.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is honestly my dream. Don't even need for roles to change, would be happy if such a girl found me.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Tfw this sexy as hell glam girl is trying to peg me
        >Tfw I act indifferent and open bht secretly I want her to pound my brain out
        Goddamn it bros so this is how making it feels.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          >girl is trying to peg me
          How do you know?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Would you be willing to wear elf ears?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        What's the point with the elf ears? I have long hair though.

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I would achieve my long term goals in 3 months if I did a cycle

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like mires, and the moment I start getting positive attention is when I get most self conscious, stop going to the gym and start regressing.

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Box squat is one of the more functional lifts, one of the major concerns with the elderly is being able to stand up from sitting
    >Deadlifts are essentially meme lift due to the vast difference in leverages across bodytypes skewing starting position more than any other lift
    >Machines are for absolute gays, you can isolate everything and anything with free weights

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      are for absolute gays, you can isolate everything and anything with free weights
      wrong on this point, cables are phenomenal for switching up tension and ROM, e.g. you cant use DB flyes to stretch the chest to the full ROM since you lose almost all tension at the top of the movement whereas the opposite is true with cables

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Seconded on box squats, in addition to being very functional it can engage your legs without exposing your hips to large shear forces. People who've had both hips replaced can box squat as heavy as they are capable without having to worry about possible dislocations or damaging anything. I believe Dave Tate is one of those guys who's had both hips replaced and still Box squats insane weights. Box squats are part of the recommended physiotherapy after a hip replacement.

      Most people into fitness are terrible at estimating bodyfat% (obviously everyone not into fitness is even worse at it). Everyone I've met and trained with who thought they were at 10% or even sub-10% body fat was more in the 12-15% range. 12-15% is where a lot of people feel pretty good and strong while feeling kind of lean. Generally everyone I've met who makes it down to 10% has told me that they feel smaller and weaker at 10%. Which also reflects my experience being there. So I'm guessing people hit a low bf% that they still feel good at and assume they've made it to 10%.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Nihilism is the only reasonable way to think. Others are just cope.

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    There is no reason for a woman to be weak.

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >poop comes out
    >it doesn't go back in
    why live?

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Metabolism is a meme

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    My 1rm > ur 1rm

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Hype is overrated, if you need metal blaring in your ears, smelling salts stuffed up your asshole, 7 different brands of preworkout, and the correct MINDSET to push your reps, you're prolly on a good path towards snapping your shit.
    No music, or calm ambience, no stimulants, and a calm, focused demeanor will net you much better results, and keep you from egolifting yourself into a torn rotator.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >when the gym plays William Basinski

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I listen to music because I like music. Happens to be punk or punk-adjacent most of the time, but that's because I like that music. People who listen to metal are idiots anyways, whether lifting or not, metal is garbage for garbage people.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Lefty?

  22. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Calisthenic and some cardio is all you need to impress woman and ahead of 98% population that is fat and sick nowadays

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Calisthenics is too advanced if you have a high fat to muscle ratio and you are a rookie with no form. Start with full body workout and cardio, learn correct form, stance and rep discipline, then proceed to exercising specific muscle groups and keep on cardioing, at this point you have more muscle mass and lower fat, keep on training and cardioing and add more lifts and deadlifts in your routine to get even stronger, then and only then you can progress in pure calisthenics. This journey will take between 2 and 3 years.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        By calisthenics we mean dips, chinups, pullups and leg raises. Nobody is going to do planches and iron crosses for muscle mass lmao

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Calisthenics is too advanced if you have a high fat to muscle ratio and you are a rookie with no form. Start with full body workout and cardio, learn correct form, stance and rep discipline, then proceed to exercising specific muscle groups and keep on cardioing, at this point you have more muscle mass and lower fat, keep on training and cardioing and add more lifts and deadlifts in your routine to get even stronger, then and only then you can progress in pure calisthenics. This journey will take between 2 and 3 years.

      By calisthenics we mean dips, chinups, pullups and leg raises. Nobody is going to do planches and iron crosses for muscle mass lmao

      All these
      Here is mine.
      Once you reach your desired muscle mass there is no need to continue to lift heavy, expect if you want to or it's your job.
      Everybody that continues to lift heavy 35+ will have fucked up joints and spine later in life.
      95% of your muscle mass can be maintained with calisthenics.

  23. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting makes me happy. Find what makes you happy anons.

  24. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of people don't know the secret to do more perfect pull-ups.

  25. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    frequency doesn't matter whether you do 10+ sets spread throughout the week or on a single day makes minimal to no difference.

    protein is overrated.

    variety is a meme, a varied program just makes you mediocre at a lot of things instead of good at a few.

    programming makes no difference, most people look roughly the same after two years regardless of whether they overloaded with weight or volume, regardless of which exercises provided the entire body is activated.

    secondary and tetiary muscles are a meme, just do more of the same exercise and those become primary when the primary muscles are exhausted due to compensation.

    tracking calories is a meme for people with stunted hormonal signaling.

    tracking macros is a meme for blind people who don't see obvious health markers in the mirror.

    meat is overrated, dairy is vastly superior.

    americans are not human, neither are brits.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >tracking calories is a meme for people with stunted hormonal signaling.
      So just about everyone nowadays.

      Tracking calories is the most effective way to control weight, period. Everything else is just a roundabout way to control calories without looking at them directly.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        > Everything else is just a roundabout way to control calories without looking at them directly.
        Yes. We have an incredibly effective system for balancing calories, and even specific macro and micro nutrients. Trying to limit calories with a dysfunctional diet and metabolism is treating the symptom while ignoring the cause. It isn’t natural for humans to be over 20% body fat and hungry. It isn’t necessary to brute force your way to 15-18% and be hungry all the time, and most people will fail eventually when trying it.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >We have an incredibly effective system for balancing calories, and even specific macro and micro nutrients.
          Maybe if you eat like a caveman and have never been exposed to selectioned carbs, let alone modern processed foods that deleted all that shit when you were still a kid.

          Never seen anybody who can't even count calories get their physique in order.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      true to everything except I think you get more from split frequency (because you wouldn't possibly get 12-16 sets of proper volume in 1 day, compared to 2-3)

      and the fact that clearly over 40% of the world has stunted hormonal signaling, so calorie counting is in fact not a meme. to be fair, I would have lost weight without it, just a lot more misery and way more time.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        > (because you wouldn't possibly get 12-16 sets of proper volume in 1 day, compared to 2-3)

        you can and I've done exactly that.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >mediocre at a lot of things instead of good at a few.
      That's literally what fitness means. Specialization is harmful.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I hate that smug look on her plastic face. Makes me wanna dropkick her.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I hate that smug look on her plastic face. Makes me wanna dropkick her.

      Hardly even saw it because that hint of cameltoe makes me want to drop down on my knees and lick her.

  26. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >all you need to "make it" is an ascended ottermode body (pic related) at =<12% bodyfat
    >achievable with weighted calisthenics (dips, pullups, chinups,leg raises)
    >you don't need to squat for big legs, leg press/extensions/cycling (uphill sprints) is more than enough as T-Rex legs are ugly as fuck

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      deadlifts are a good leg exercise, they make them strong but are shit for hypertrophy so they don't get big, especially the quads don't really grow much from them, but calves do.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You don't need to be "strong" in the modern day era, all you need is to look good (getting to ascended ottermode will make you stronger than 95% of other men).
        Nobody is impressed by your 3pl8 DL beside other powershitters and your ego.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          strong legs are important for injury prevention, big legs however are disadvantageous.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >pic related
      >"all" you need

      Your body dysmorphia so bad you can't recognize how exceptional this physique is in actuality

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw pic looks small to me now
        It would have girls drooling.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        >how exceptional this physique is in actuality
        most zoomers go to the gym nowadays and lifting is mainstream as fuck, probably like 20-25% of men below 40 look like that or better

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >All you need is roids
      The guy in your pic isn't even natty.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous
  27. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Sex is overrated. Women are gain goblins. Fit volcel for life is peak chad.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's only overrated bc you've never had sex with someone who truly loves you.

  28. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >volume > weight
    >intensity > consistency
    >bulgarian split squats are the single best leg exercise
    >huge chest looks bad

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >> consistency > intensity

  29. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Time under tension (with appropriate weight) should be more important than reps. Also I wish more people viewed cardio as training for the heart and lungs, basically improving your work capacity.

    I hate fast reps that bounce off the chest, and I hate people who think a 10k run will be enough to burn off that McFuckin burger.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate fast reps that bounce off the chest
      They're more important than full ROM reps for speed and power.

  30. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    You should never ever do competition bench and instead just do close grip bench.

  31. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting is much less important than dieting. You can get away with only lifting 1-2 time per week if you eat right. I'm able to get so much more puss at 155 lbs 10% BF then I ever could at 180 lbs 25% BF

  32. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Squatting/Bench past 150kg is just really unsafe and pointless

  33. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Genetics doesnt matter if you ask God to change them

  34. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    most of you wont make it because you're too obsessed with finding obscure knowledge and behaving like an antisocial autist instead of actually living a healthy life and working out for something

  35. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    only 5% of you gays here actually push yourself in the gym and the rest just make excuses as to why you're weak/unathletic/unaesthetic.

    If you simply worked harder you would have what you wanted

  36. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Heaven's Feel is the worst route

  37. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >OHP is a better exercise for shoulder health and strength in the long run compared to bench press.
    >Straight arm pulldowns is a superior back exercise compared to rows, pull-ups, and regular lat pulldowns.
    >8x3 is ideal in terms of size and strength gains

  38. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    No refunds

  39. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    My main reason for lifting and trying to get fit is to get a girl.

  40. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Any kind of diet will work.

  41. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't grow by just eating what you want and lifting heavy you have shit genetics

  42. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone bigger than me is fraud and everyone smaller than me is dyel and ngmi

  43. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone should adjust their programming to suit their own needs.

  44. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    S-y beans are not effectively estrogenic but inferior to meat because of its protein absorption rate.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >gets recommended to menopausal women
      nothin personnel, vegan

  45. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    This worship of some sort of muscleape ideal is a pursuit engaged in by low-IQ morons, usually macho manapes, who can't understand the idea of improving themselves mentally.

    Unless you focus on gym shit AFTER you've become widely learned and skilled in a lot of different fields, you're just being a dumb ape who's looked down on by people who aren't roidmonkeys.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Each large muscle of a bodybuilder represents a language he didn't learn, a poem he didn't read, a fun fact he never memorised.
      You can do both, and you don't need to hold off entering a gym until you are 35 and "widely learned." have a nice day, trash.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Think you got the wrong door, reddit is two links down.

  46. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Post your controversial IST opinions.
    it didnt happen
    but it should have
    also they deserved it

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