Post your most controversial opinions on fitness

Post your most controversial opinions on fitness

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    heavy weights are bullshit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No.

      A lot of reps is better than progressive overload if you want more muscle mass

      Yes.

      Back injuries are due to weak abs.

      How?

      Chalicstenics are amazing and I can look great with just a pull-up bar and some rings to to dips on the same pull-up bar.

      Yes, pic related (my living room wall)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cool, what is your routine?
        I'm

        Chalicstenics are amazing and I can look great with just a pull-up bar and some rings to to dips on the same pull-up bar.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How?
        Abs help stabilize your entire torso. Strong abs will also relieve strain on your back during recovery. If you've ever had a back injury and you go to PT, like 95% of the exercises you will be doing are ab related. You'll very rarely be doing any direct back work, if at all.

        Ergo, having strong abs will also help prevent back injury. The only times I have ever had any sort of back injury or even strain is because my core was weakened (sitting down at an office job, not doing ab exercises, etc). It hasn't happened often, but it was extremely consistent in how and why it happened.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you a dungeon master?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>>/tg/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're not wrong

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of reps is better than progressive overload if you want more muscle mass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't more muscle mass make you stronger?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very cool. Now go learn what progressive overload actually means

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Increasing reps is a type of progressive overload.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That IS prrogressive overload you doofus.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Progressive overload is just making your exercise harder than last time
      That can be increased weight, reps, time under tension, lower rest intervals etc.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Back injuries are due to weak abs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is so damn based and should be in the history books

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also hamstrings

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      *weak bracing

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    leg curls, calf raises and vagina machines are all and the same faggy workout for trannies and pussies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So I should just do squats and deadlifts on leg day? That's pretty much all I do now

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hip thrust and calf raises are good too

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >T.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    deadlifts are an accesory lift meant to strengthen the posterior chain
    where I'm going is RDLs with relatively light weight is the GOAT deadlift exercise

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How light are we talking? Like what percentage of your conventional deadlift

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chalicstenics are amazing and I can look great with just a pull-up bar and some rings to to dips on the same pull-up bar.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your legs will be ka king

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most shit is a meme.
    Work constantly, work hard.
    Doesn’t mean too heavy, just push yourself.
    You will have 80% of the gains with 20% of the effort.
    Dont eat too much shit, sleep enough, some drinks are fine.
    99% of supplements are bullshit.
    99% of people in the industry are lying and just want to sell something too you.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    90% of people's lift selection and programming fucking suck
    >base your program around compounds!!!
    >okay, my arms are small how do I fix this?
    >do curls retard!
    Now apply this logic to every muscle on the body. Every muscle has an objectively best lift for it and everything else is less efficient.

    I also can't stand people that say useless platitudes like "WORK HARD BRO" because you're making this insecure assumption that anyone trying to learn how to lift better is a "pussy." They're already lifting hard they're just trying to optimize and learn more unlike you who does 5x10 lat raises and roids and thinks he's a badass.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every muscle has an objectively best lift

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The point of compounds is to not spend 3-5 hours in the gym every time you want to do full body, because you are doing isolations for every single muscle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      DUZ DAT MEAN MY BOOTY CAN PULLA TRUKK

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most people simply do not do enough volume.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole "compounds are all you need" meme got out of hand. My arms only started growing after I started curling and isolating my triceps. Rows and benching wont add much size

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hell yeah. I have noticed my best gains when putting in 20 sets into the main muscle groups and 10+ into accessories. It does take time to build up to this though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pull-ups, chin-ups and dips are compounds and my arms are good

        These 3 aren't recommended for beginners because most can't do them.

        Hell, powershitters can't do them at all and they are the ones bragging about only doing compounds. Truth is the do just half of them

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    She will only like you, if you can deadlift 4 plates

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much does a plate weigh?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    new wave of zoomers who bench below their bodyweight while larping as some neo nazi crusaders fighting obesity by signing up to the local planet fitness is what ruined this board

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're better than r*dditors(You).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        lifting is nothing more than an exercise gay, go develop a personality instead of turning it into some holy worship type shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      True they are annoying. I'm a 30yo lifting to protect my autistic little sister.
      Lift with wholesome purpose imo is the best way.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        your sister looks very cute anon, you're a good brother

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ty
          I love my lil pumpernickel doona grub so much

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I want to kill her and fuck her dead body.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I want to kill dubs anon before it's too late so I can chain her in my bathroom just for me
            I want my rape to be within our loyal and monogamous relationship

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    everything works and everything is bullshit for someone. You should try almost everything for comparison and keep what works.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People use “genetics” as a cope to be fat lazy retards incapable of fixing their diets and will never make meaningful progress

  14. 2 months ago
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    If your goal is strictly to build muscle and not athletic performance, then hack squats are better than barbell squats.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    all meme and crash diets are retarded and anyone who follows them is a sheep including keto, fat free, carnivore, paleo, etc etc.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with the meme diets but I don't see whats wrong with crash dieting, "water fasting" (hate the fucking name tbh, just call it starving at that point) litcherally just works and all this "but you gain it back!" is coming from weak willed gays

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If thats the case 99% of people are weak willed gays

        And even if youre the 1% youre just making it harder for yourself, I see no reason to starve yourself unless you need to lose weight very quickly for something like a wrestling weigh in

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Recomp is possible anywhere above about 15% bf

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    manlets are just like normal people, only smaller

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1/2/3/4 is advanced, not novice.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on body weight. Powershitting has weight classes for a reason

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    strength should be compared by body mass vs weight being lifted rather than raw numbers so powerbloaters can finally fuck off or actually start putting in the same effort as everyone who isnt a fat fuck

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gym should be free for young people

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine if the gov took the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on defense and made public gyms everywhere and paid successful athletes in all sports (like some countries)

      wouldnt even need to raise taxes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >defense
        *corn subsidies

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          true.

          The federal reserve runs a tax farm and we are cattle

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn. One must imagine Bessie happy.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IST is a bodybuilding board, powershitters with their strength standards should fuck off to /plg/

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like leg days. I do squats and calf isolation on push day, deadlifts and hamstring isolation on pull day and that's all I do for legs.
    My legs are naturally big (a lot of it must be fat tbqh, but still pretty big) and if I did legs on a separate day I'd just end up skipping it because I hate leg training.
    Also, I like upright rows.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t count calories. I don’t own a scale. I don’t follow a routine. I do whatever workouts I feel like doing and I’m comfortable in my own body.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have fun being DYEL forever.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heavy compound lifts are a meme

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You would be vastly happier, healthier, and in better shape if you started doing calisthenics instead of being a morbidly obese powershitter. Absolutely nobody cares about BIG NUMBERS.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Functional fitness like goata and fp is based and the future

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    meal timing matters

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    90% of IST could accomplish all their goals at home with 3 kettlebells, a pull up bar, and somewhere to do dips.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What weights for the three kettlebells?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        32/24/16 kg, if you are already strong 32 alone is fine

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Am i supposed to deadlift/RDL/goblet squat 32kg at most? what does a routine looks like with this equipment?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The bells are mostly for 1 arm swings or snatches and adding resistance to the pull ups and dips.
            You can basically train everything you need to to look good by doing 3 days a week of swing/snatch, pull ups, and dips. Throw in some hill sprints for extra leg work and you are golden. The exact routine isn't important, just keep finding new ways to progress.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >controversial truths
    cables machines are great

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you need accessories to lift something, your program isn't complete

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    weights are overrated food is everything

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Genetics are the most important thing in building muscle/strength naturally. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try though.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bodybuilding is stupid.
    Sure, you need to isolate certain muscles that don't get worked with compounds, but training just for mass instead of strength or performance is insane.

    Training calves is basically pointless outside of improving ankle stability. Big calves look silly and unathletic. They are actually detrimental to running.

    Focusing on 1 rep maxes is idiotic unless you're a competitive strength athlete. Working up to heavy/rpe9 3-5 reps or like an rpe8ish single is fine.

    Too many young lifters egolift and get hurt.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >have brain injury
      >poor balance for life
      >have massive calves because they somehow compensate for it
      >keep getting asked my calf routine
      I'm starting to run out of lies, but also it's insane the number of mires (almost exclusively from homosexuals) I've gotten from them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is some truth to this
      Competitive bodybuilding is a freak show. but training to develop an aesthetic physique is really good for your overall health. Even if you train "just to look good" you will still be stronger than most guys. Add some cardio and your body will thank you for many many years

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should never use weights. Any strength training that you should do should only be bodyweight. All weights do is break your spine and your joints down. And you'll pay the price later in life.

    Want to be big? Well enjoy your vanity and pay the price later.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not everyone can make it. What's more, they shouldn't. If you're inferior you should have a body that reflects that fact so as to repel worthwhile mates that could be better suited paired up with someone who is capable of giving a shit.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you don’t need to lift if you’re a woman

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't lift for mass until you reasonably strong. you won't get massive by doing a 100 pound bench or a 150 pound squat, first train for strength.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't lift for mass nor strength until you feel really healthy, flexible, nimble, limber, vigorous on you whole body. Do bodyweight and lightweight stuff + fix your cardio before even looking at heavier stuff. Take your time to get an athletic, modest, otterlean amount of muscle.
      >Then get some more lean mass with medium weights, plenty of volume and full rests.
      >Then you get to focus on mass or strength or whatever you want.
      FTFY

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting is useless if not for a practical purpose. It is otherwise vanity.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure every hobby you do directly translates into skills you'll actively be using during the inevitable societal collapse. Do you watch any kind of shows that aren't strictly educational? Do you partake in any kind of recreational drug? Do you have any tattoos? Is your vehicle optimized strictly for your daily commute (moped) or does it serve to satisfy your ego?

      Stop LARPing about "muh pragmatic practicality" because it's transparent that you say shit like this purely to satisfy your ego (insecurities). You are ironically more emotional in your decision making than someone who lifts strictly for vanity.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being big and being strong are two interconnected containers. Of course you will be bigger if you train in a hypertrophy oriented way and of course you will be stronger if you train in a strength oriented way. But I do think that no matter the style you train, you should have a block where you dedicate yourself to the opposite style of training (have a strength block if you do hypertrophy or have a hypertrophy/volume oriented block if you train heavy and for strength)

    At some point if you want some specific muscle group to grow, you need to grow other muscle groups as well. Your body will, at some point, stop allocating muscle building blocks into a hyperspecific muscle group no matter how hard you stimulate it, if your other muscle groups are too far behind.
    If you want a big chest, you can focus your training on it, but you will reach a certain point where to add some chest mass, you will have to add mass somewhere else also.

    Also I think the "the more muscles you contract during the movement the harder you can contract the main target muscle group" principle is severely underused and underappreciated.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Many people (especially on IST) drastically overthink their fitness. It’s a very simple process in reality.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is peak natty + top 0.1% genetics and a whole life of training.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and gets brutally mogged the instant he gets near a roidchud

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    SBD especially the PL kind are themselves accessory lifts and not a musst.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    streetlifting is a better strength sport than powerlifting
    also gymnastic training is super based

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >IST version
    Unless you are actively participating in a certain /general/ thread, and only in general threads, of a subject you practise:
    >You have no reason to be here
    You are wasting your time, you are getting nothing from this board but shilling, you aren't learning anything nor having real fun, you aren't smart nor witty or funny with your dumb posts which contribute nothing, you are killing old useful /general/s with your lame humour threads nobody cares about and you bait in and self bump all day waiting for a bit of attention you don't get anywhere else (or procrastination or fishing for compliments/excuses for your lameness fueled threads), and you are never making it if you stay as you are. It doesn't matter what you mean by "making it", we all know this isn't it. Fix your fucking existence.
    If it's worth your time you can get it faster and better anywhere else, and useful answers are an online search away.
    That means fasting, running and powerlifting generals are about the only things this entire board has to offer any day, any time, anywhere.
    Yeah, don't worry: It's over.
    I AM right and you will regret the time you spent here.
    Cope and seethe and see you tomorrow.
    Put that on your fucking sticky.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    10 set programs are incredible and people should do more sets

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