>but Schoenfeld-
there are DIFFERENT forms of hypertrophy.
That you can elicit similar degrees of hypertrophy (i.e., quantity) with different loads in different rep ranges (higher loads in lower ranges, lighter loads in higher ranges) is well established, provided you take the lighter loads to failure to recruit fast-twitch fibers.
But the type of hypertrophy is different (i.e., the quality).
Heavier loads in lower ranges yields more myofibriller hypertrophy, growth of the actual contractile threads.
Lighter loads, even if taken to failure, just means sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, basically water, glyogen, and mitochondria--FAKE muscle pump that goes away when you stop doing your fluff and pump work regularly.
Only strength training builds real muscle.
t. fatty
wrong. look at gymnasts and all those jacked runners.
>gymnasts and all those jacked runners.
The gymnasts and runners (I assume you mean sprinters) are 1) abusing steroids, and 2) most of their "muscle" is just pump.
Also, they deliberately train and benefit from pump (abundant water, glyogen, and mitochondria) because of the greater anaerobic demand of their sport.
So if I want to do a sport other than powerlifting then light weight is exactly what I need to do?
>So if I want to do a sport other than powerlifting then light weight is exactly what I need to do?
Having actual muscle, not just sarcoplasmic pump, would help a lot of these athletes.
That's why a lot of them do strength training on the side.
>all those jacked runners
like who?
>>all those jacked runners
>like who?
They meant sprinters, but the point stands, it's mostly steroids and pump.
Adama Traore
>Adama Traore
But that's not a fair example as blacks are superior physically.
holy shit look at that skin cancer he's going to get lmao do runners really?
>IST providing quality info and discussion as usual
You're supposed to them very slow
We've been over this, myo vs sarco hypertrophy is a complete and utter meme. Opinion discarded
>muh bodybuilders are weak
They're weak because they lack technical and neurological adaptations, those two being two of the three pillars of strength (the third being muscle size obviously). Not to mention shit they do like using variations with disadvantageous leverages, prefatigue, etc.
>inb4 look at these super weak roiders!!
Don't care, I'm talking about natties
Based truthposter. OP, your utterings are simply a bodybuilding fanfiction. The fact is that myofibrillar & sarcoplasmic hypertrophy are both elicited in lower AND higher rep ranges. The differences in the quantities of each are very minor.
you have absolutely zero concept of myonuclei overload and how muscle is actually built. If what you said was true, people doing BFR training with 10 lb weights blowing up their biceps wouldn't be a thing.
Oh my fucking god that moron 3dalpha is just a fatass. Nobody does that shit, construction workers are not jacked, and taking 6 months off the gym will cause muscle atrophy even if you saw some dbol roider do it. Post body you noob.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0913935107
You're fucking retarded. Construction workers are some of the most unhealthy people, it's a high stress job and they eat like shit. Like I said, you don't understand how muscle is built. You have no rigorous study proving your claims, you're just a fucking retard.
>no body posted
>"my resistance bands are just as good as your 3pl8 bench because I'm doing 100 reps every day!!!"
lmfao shut up kid
post sources or gtfo you subhuman low iq trash
>non-sequitur strawman
>completely ignores
We've been over this, myo vs sarco hypertrophy is a complete and utter meme. Opinion discarded
>muh bodybuilders are weak
They're weak because they lack technical and neurological adaptations, those two being two of the three pillars of strength (the third being muscle size obviously). Not to mention shit they do like using variations with disadvantageous leverages, prefatigue, etc.
>inb4 look at these super weak roiders!!
Don't care, I'm talking about natties
Bands are not good for hypertrophy for a number of reasons that I'm not going to get into here, and we know that reps over 30 are inferior for hypertrophy anyway so the rep count you used is also a strawman. Something more equivalent would be someone doing low-incline close grip pause larsen press with 225 for 12-15 reps VS a guy doing comp bench with a wide grip and big arch benching 350 for 1-3 reps. The former individual will actually have the bigger chest in this example, which disproves your theory entirely
>POST BODY!!!
Post yours first bitch, you're the one making the outlandish claims here
why arent bands good for hypertrophy?
>why arent bands good for hypertrophy?
They don't provide consistent resistance throughout the full range of motion of the exercise.
Also they tend to slacken with continued use.
They're at best a supplement to free weights.
>They don't provide consistent resistance throughout the full range of motion of the exercise.
Basically the resistance is usually strongest at the end of the concentric (lifting) phase, and weakest at the end of the eccentric (lowering) phase.
If anything, you'd like it to be the other way around.
Shoenfield is literally just a scam artist. He trains grandmas at RPE5 and then writes on the report he took them to eye bulging failure.
Look at how they cut all his sets after 3 reps, that's why.
>He trains grandmas at RPE5 and then writes on the report he took them to eye bulging failure.
Holy fuck this annoying pussy trains with no intensity.
that's because you're too retarded to see other cues than face. If you look at his failure set, he's already struggling with the weight at the beginning and his cadence and ROM is off which are other cues that muscular fatigue is setting in.
Is this the fucktard who did that meme study with Mike Israel that "proved" you had to do 50 sets to grow?
OP I do mostly 20-30 reps and I guarantee I'm bigger and stronger than you
Don'tcare didn't read still gonna work out MY way
I gain on sets of 8-15+ reps.
I don't gain joint pain and fatigue on sets of 1-5.
So is power building the way to go?
PSA: you can lift a ton but you have high bodyfat, rounded shoulders and legs too big for the rest of you.
I barely lift 100kg but chicks think I'm superman.
You know who else is strong? Literal retards.
How is that working out for them?
It turns out there are very few times in life where you have to lift cars, and when you do you'll be too ugly for anybody to really appreciate it.
>-FAKE muscle pump that goes away when you stop doing your fluff and pump work regularly.
TIL that muscle built from heavy weights doesn't go away when you stop lifting heavy weights.
I built my muscle from lifting heavy weights and I'm happy with my current size so I'm going to stop working out from now on, thanks.
I have my own maybe retarded theory op, lemme know what you think:
Training strength for novices is KEY because they in hypertrophy range, obviously the weight they are able to use will be much lower, and will progress much lower, which will cause the following:
There are 2 main drivers for hyp, mech tension and metabolic stress, to someone who barely knows how to contract addecuately their muscles in order, lets not even talk about mind muscle connection or the capacity to strain, the weights they are going to lift are mostly limited by their retardedness, not by their muscles, so mechanical tension is out of the question imo, no way you are giving any meaningful tension to them muscles.
Then there is metabolic stress, i believe also with so small weights the weight itself isnt able to constric the veins or stop the muscles from sliding, which is the difference between a recover workout and a stress inducing workout, so im thinking metabolic stress is out of the question too.