Push Ups > Bench Press

Benchtards BTFO!

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19528804/pushup-just-as-good-as-bench-press/#:~:text=Trade%20in%20your%20barbell%20for,pushup%20is%20a%20killer%20exercise.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weighted push ups feel good and going for numbers feels disgusting. Your blood pressure/heart rate builds up too much or whatever this is.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >concernedheartjak.jpg

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pussy

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Abso-fuckin-lutely based OP, can’t believe I fell for the barbell and the dumbbell meme, press ups to failure, mix in some plyos cos I’m boxing, then go on knees to failure, call that a set, do 5 or 6 sets a day

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >go on knees to failure

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically the best Chest I ever had was during quarantine when the only chest exercise I could do was push ups. 100 daily.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doing 100 push ups is fucking retarded. You should have added weight or moved to decline or progressed it to pseudo planche or one arm.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          post body? just curious what 100 daily pushups can do for your chest

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was back in 2020. Right now I'm fat because of a bulk

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but I've actually started doing a 100 pushup a day challenge to see how it effects my chest and have been taking pictures every day, day 4 out of 30 now, if it has an actual effect I'll crop my face out and post it when I'm done.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I also disagree

          Then you can both be wrong fucking idiots. Would you bench the same weight for 100 reps? It makes no sense unless you’re training for endurance

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought volume is best for hypertrophy. 100 push ups might be bad for strength gains, but what if you want a sick chest?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              progressive overload and achieving microtears is best regardless of how you reach it

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Volume like 5x10 reps as opposed to like 5x5 for strength

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the intensity simply becomes too weak. If you want hypertrophy, you NEED progressive overload (everyone should know this by now...)

              Yes, you will gain a good body with calisthenics, but if your primary goal is aesthetics and not functionality per say, then jump into bodybuilding

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Volume by way of sets close to muscular failure is good for hypertrophy, you don't see jacked dudes doing 100 reps for bench press do you?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I also disagree

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uh yeah, if 10 is good then 100 must be better duh, how fucking stupid do you have to be not to see this?? It's linear progression until I'm doing 1000 a day!!! By then I'll have the biggest pecs in the game right?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who cares how many you can do daily? Anyone can do 100 a day that seems easy. I can do 40 without stopping so I could be done with my daily pushups in like 5 minutes if I wanted. Seems like a waste

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im so tall and heavy a pushup i equivalent to an 180 lbs bench

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In order to max out on pushups, you would need to be beyond elite levels of fitness

    For a 150 lb person, the weight would be 96 lbs, 94 x 3.3 is 316.8 which is 17.8 pounds over elite levels of strength for a bench press at 150 lbs of bodyweight

    The only confounding variable is fatigue. There are fatigue protocols that maximize fatigue so that you can maximize your productive reps so you aren't doing 1000 push ups a day, like myo reps.

    If you move to dips, you will never be able to reach a strength level where you max out on dips. Again, you have to take into account fatigue and you have to utilize a fatigue protocol to maximize muscle growth on a dip.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >For a 150 lb person, the weight would be 96 lbs, 94 x 3.3 is 316.8 which is 17.8 pounds over elite levels of strength
      I dont understand what this means

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just some autist retard zoomer who thinks he's it all worked out, just ignore.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where does the 3.3 come from?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    try decline weighted pushups, or weighted ring pushups. no pump compares

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pushups are better. you can do them in diamond form, do decline diamonds, and then planches
    and you can do them everywhere

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do them on my daily walk

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is no reason to do diamond push ups. Shoulder width push ups do everything diamond push ups do and better. It's a myth that diamond push ups hit triceps uniquely hard.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then every single calisthenics expert on earth is wrong.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        retard

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Putting the muscle on a disadvantageous position and forcing it to work harder doesn't make it work harder
        Autist.
        Diamond PUs also target the inner chest area more

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >target the inner chest
          lmao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it does. any exercise that works chest with your hands together works the inner chest more than a wide grip. same reason flyes work it

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bro, it's one big muscle, its contracts the same

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                btw post body

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon...

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn those insertions suck, rip

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can literally feel the tri being used more

        if you weight 150lbs just say that

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Probably a wrsitlet incapable of doing them

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gay and I love pushups if you know what I mean

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I super set with push ups doing AMP

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >100 push-ups a day

    Since none of you gays read TFA, let me tl;dr it for you: a study found that you get similar strength gains from 6RM bench presses and 6RM resistance-band pushups. Similar movement pattern under similar load. They did *not* compare heavy benching with a zillion bodyweight push-ups because it's obvious the latter is pointless for strength gains.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. that's like saying benching the empty bar for a quadrillion reps is the same

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Resistance band pushups. Like wrapping it under your hands and over your back?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, wrapping it around your penis

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Clicking on clickbait

      Thanks for the summary. I was close. They just made pushups harder, instead of making benchpress easier. Worthless study.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nobody brings up floor presses

    this board really went to shit huh?

    Floor press superset after benching is god tier. If you're going purely for hypertrophy, nothing better for the chest, except maybe commando pullups for cleavage.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one ever got a huge chest solely doing pushups.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your mother did by pushing up on my dick

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a study comparing band-resisted pushups to bench, both groups did 6RM sets and one worked just as well as the other
    You wouldn't think that because at the bottom, the band isn't providing resistance, whereas the bar is, so you wouldn't think you would get as good chest development with pushups but I think they did
    Plus, since the pushup also works extension of the shoulderblades at the top, I bet you would see good upper back/rear delt development
    And you won't get that frozen shoulder that everyone who benches eventually gets
    If I were coaching athletes I would have them do banded pushups instead of bench for the free shoulder movement alone

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh lol I didn't actually rad the article because I assumed it was some dumb men's health holistic "all you need is ten pushups a day" shit, but they're actually talking about this study. Bit late it came out a while ago, stronger by science wrote on it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >scapular protraction done by upper back / rear delts
      the absolute state of IST

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YOU CANNOT GAIN MUSCLE if you are doing 25+ repetitions of ANY EXERCISE easily.

    Even 20 is pushing it. The optimal range for hypertrophy is 8-12, with hard reps at the end.

    Nobody who isn't 1) a complete dyel 2) very tall and/or 3) very fat should be having much trouble with 20 pushups. Pushups aren't completely useless - they work the core, they work the back, and they might produce better vascularity and shit. But you're not going to build a big chest or big arms doing traditional pushups alone.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Even 20 is pushing it. The optimal range for hypertrophy is 8-12, with hard reps at the end.

      lmao x2

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      absolute gainlet

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do several sets of 20 and you will soon reach the point where you can only do sets of 8-12
      Here tou go, now you're in hypertrophy mode with push-ups

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit I'm a massive fat fuck and fail at 8. Does that mean I can just do push-ups until I easily get to 15 or so and then add bands or weights on my back?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Currently doing weighted push-ups and dips on my push day. It's amazing bros

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >finds a new study

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pushups are pretty good tbh, but after i can do 50+ in 1 set i dont think i can build muscle with them anymore.

    >just do 1 arm progression, or handstand progression
    i tried, but doing my left shoulder just doesnt let me, i dont know why i was never injured or anything

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not natty
        not because of raw size but the weird cannonball delts and traps are a giveaway

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is in no way true.
    >t. did pushups for 4 years in the infantry, vs. actual freeweight program

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably used 100 untrained men as their sample group, who were weak/fat enough that a pushup with proper form is difficult for them and any amount of exercise would build muscle for them. As for the "benchpress" group, they could have them benchpress a prescribed weight, based on their bodyweight, that is about the same difficulty as a pushup, as many times as they can. That way, they will have similar effects to pushups.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You bros need to think 1" outside the box. If you're doing 50 pushups easily then elevate your fucking legs until you can barely do 10.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2015
    >no link to actual study
    >suggests using bands to make concentric harder
    no

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is the same movement, it's just easier to overload a bench press. Also the article talks about banded push ups not regular push ups. They're great but they shouldn't be replacing your bench.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m a massive lard ass that weighs 370 lbs

    I did 100 push-ups a day for 1 month and benched 405

    A push-up at my body weight is like a 260 bench or something like 65 percent of my body weight

    If you’re a lard ass that wants a stronger bench start doing push-ups.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do i keep from getting bored doing bodyweight work? a huge reason i do barbell only is because its actually fun

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