Rest day?

Are rest days bullshit? In terms of building practical strength/body ability over size is it better to just work out as much as possible and only rest when your schedule might demand it?

>Minimal rest days: David Goggins is notorious for his minimal rest days. While most athletes and fitness enthusiasts advocate for regular rest and recovery, Goggins believes in pushing through the pain and discomfort. He often goes weeks, and sometimes even months, without taking a single rest day.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He is on test

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      stay hard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >He is on test
      is this bs or confirmed?

      https://i.imgur.com/UHF3YOj.jpg

      Are rest days bullshit? In terms of building practical strength/body ability over size is it better to just work out as much as possible and only rest when your schedule might demand it?

      >Minimal rest days: David Goggins is notorious for his minimal rest days. While most athletes and fitness enthusiasts advocate for regular rest and recovery, Goggins believes in pushing through the pain and discomfort. He often goes weeks, and sometimes even months, without taking a single rest day.

      >Are rest days bullshit?
      of course not. try it out and see what happens

      He's got the results to show for his effort at least. Would prehistoric humans have rest days? What could have changed from us being constantly moving to "Oh I need to take a break from life today" mentality. Maybe lifters need rest days, but does normal healthy human exercise require rest days?

      >Would prehistoric humans have rest days?
      yes

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    and he's demolishes his joints in the process

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's got the results to show for his effort at least. Would prehistoric humans have rest days? What could have changed from us being constantly moving to "Oh I need to take a break from life today" mentality. Maybe lifters need rest days, but does normal healthy human exercise require rest days?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Would prehistoric humans have rest days?
        Yea especially during winter in cold climates

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I mean I could understand if they were not doing as much every day, but even in winter they had to keep moving to stay alive: Gath fire wood, respond to shelter threats, respond to weather, carry food if nomadic. It's not like now adays where we just sit around and do nothing when we're lazy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Gather firewood
            Yeah wow so hard. So hard just to walk a couple feet to chop a tree.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              did you get my point at least? Sure they may have done less in the winter (That is if they managed to secure enough food) but they were still doing more in the winter then we do in the summer of the modern era. Most peoples were nomadic as well, and even in winter they were moving around constantly trying to secure food and water and carrying XYZ items, having animalistic sex all the time, making clothes, managing animals.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They may have done less in the winter
                That's assuming all pre historic humans lived in cold climates which they didn't. So what about the ones that didn't moron?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That proves my point? That they were always active finding and storing food, fighting, etc etc etc.

                look at squat everyday and see how he looks without a rest day

                His legs are just as toned as the rest of his body, this coupled with runners physique and he has a great physique.

                we're living a thousand times better, you just don't know what it's like on the other side. people in poor countries move around labouring for survival day by day because most jobs there require physical labor if you have no education

                Third world countries aren't comparable to prehistoric peoples, they do have harsher conditions yet, but they aren't as intelligent to manage hygiene and cleanliness in a way that would better their way of life. Almost all outbreaks and disease were caused by idiocy and failure to react to or maintain clean environments, couple our modern understanding with activities humans have been doing since our inception and we could live longer better lives, the concept of rest days is only found in modern societies like ours, but that is not to say that that is more or less healthy, and I think Goggins proves this by being fit every day.
                Also, we don't have a whole lot of autonomy when you couple in moving permits, routine requirements seeded in modern occupations, and the construction of cities inhibiting free flow of travel by the very concept of infrastructure.
                Yes we in the 1st world have many amenities that 3rd worlders don't and thats what has our quality of life so high, but I still think we overlook many other behavior's that would further improve our lives, and one of them is practical fitness designed for health and longevity and not aesthetics.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you wanna climb a mountrain for fun? you can climb a mountain!, wanna canoe 10km and back? you can do that! you'll notice that wealthier people take advantage of all their surplus of resources and are usually extremely healthy in every sense of the word. Most unhealthy people in the west are from lower classes with less education and access to better resources, funnily enough they also usually work jobs that require more movement than the rich

                Like I said, wealthy people have already been doing "practical fitness" for health and longevity. Trying to seek muscle has historically been seen as vain and a trait of the lower classes for ages. I do agree with the grand idea but you'd have to change people life conditions before that privilege is even attainable to them, most people are too dumb, lazy, poor to healthmaxx effectively

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Black person has clearly never chopped up a proper tree.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        life conditions are far better now, and resting for a few days won't kill anybody as long as they're otherwise healthy, I don't see why we should be simulating the intense lifestyle of some hunter gatherer if we have the luxury not to do so

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because luxury and comfort are slowly killing us.
          >Our food/water supply is lacking nutrition and increasingly added with preservatives and chemicals.
          >Comfort keeps the body in worse shape then it could be through consistent action.
          >Modern medicine creates more iatrogenic problems then it helps to cure/prevent
          >Air quality is a lot worse then it used to be.

          Maybe we don't have to be as intense but I wouldn't say our living conditions are better. Luxury and comfort are often death to the living in excess.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            we're living a thousand times better, you just don't know what it's like on the other side. people in poor countries move around labouring for survival day by day because most jobs there require physical labor if you have no education

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              the only difference is that with us we can decide when and where we want to move and in which conditions (excluding chores). I don't see how thats anything but a privilege of the highest order. compare natives from poorer countries to westernized kids from the same country and you'll notice that they're usually better developed because of their superior diets regardless of if they moved around or no

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >because of their superior diets
                Yeah that westernised, processed, micro plastics filled goyslop is real superior

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                its not my fault your mother was lazy and served you mcdonalds for lunch

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No I grew up with the healthiest diet my mama owned a modest restaurant chain better than McDonald's but just because my mama owned a restaurant doesn't mean I got any discounts or whatever I had to pay for the food out of my own pocket money I got from mowing the neighbours lawns and doing other errands so my mama instilled in me the value of humility

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                stop saying "my mama," no one is buying your humble, "aw shucks" country boy routine
                you are a fricking PHONY

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you wanna climb a mountrain for fun? you can climb a mountain!, wanna canoe 10km and back? you can do that! you'll notice that wealthier people take advantage of all their surplus of resources and are usually extremely healthy in every sense of the word. Most unhealthy people in the west are from lower classes with less education and access to better resources, funnily enough they also usually work jobs that require more movement than the rich

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Prehistoric humans weren't deliberately pushing to overload their bodies every day for adaptation stimulus.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'll agree maybe Goggin's takes it a step further then most, but it seems to work fine for him. The main point was that rest days are a fabrication relative to the current societal makeup, prehistoric humans would still do more in a day every single day then we do, and I'm sure evolution wouldn't have made them do that if rest days were an actual thing.

          Some of the strongest guys on the planet @ WSBB work out 4 days a week only.

          Strong vs max physiological capacity, strength is only one faculty, endurance and practical strength are another thing entirely. Those dudes train differently for highly specialized results.

          You never read his books did you, moron? He normally takes 1 day off each week. So dumb. Frick you

          No I haven't read his book you fricking shill, I've just read everything else that is available online that says he rarely takes rest days. Suck my wiener.

          [...]
          Like I said, wealthy people have already been doing "practical fitness" for health and longevity. Trying to seek muscle has historically been seen as vain and a trait of the lower classes for ages. I do agree with the grand idea but you'd have to change people life conditions before that privilege is even attainable to them, most people are too dumb, lazy, poor to healthmaxx effectively

          Point taken, though even the wealthy folks still tend to follow fitness trends more then anything, I suppose modern fitness has advanced a lot in the past few decades but I still think it has a long way to go, modern occupations just aren't compatible with human health, typically.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >why would I read what he himself says about his fitness routine and rest days
            >frick off shill moron
            have a nice day

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not going to read his fricking book asshat, I'm just using him to explore a topic, and if he wants to be better represented then maybe he should start correction all the posts that say otherwise. 1 day of rest per week, you've changed almost nothing of my argument you pointless curr.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Rest day doesn't mean do literally nothing for the day, it just means don't train.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The main point was that rest days are a fabrication relative to the current societal makeup
            No, dumbass. Prehistoric humans exercise and get tired so they lay down until they have energy again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >me grug
        >me tired today
        >me sleep under shady tree with grugette
        >chase buffalo later

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Wake up hungry
          >Food ran far way
          >Run all night still no food
          >Me fast for 5 days before find next food because Grug lazy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >exert yourself once in a blue moon
            >go above and beyond your physical abilities
            >catch a deer, boar, wild animal
            >you and family are fed for next few days
            >no need to catch an animal for next few days

            your mentality is literally a scarcity mentality

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bad weather was a rest day

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, prehistoric humans had "rest" days. In the first place they would never deliberately exert themselves to the maximum unless it was life or death, just like every other animal. If most animals are to go by, they were just chilling most of the time, or having fun. They were not sigma grinding every single day, and any human that could get away with doing less to get the same outcome or more would mog the moron sigma grinding to get buffalo or whatever. The smart ones would just drive them off a cliff or use some other strategy to minimize exertion.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Would prehistoric humans have rest days
        Of course, dipshit. You and your mates kill a giant animal, bring it back to the camp, and then the women help cook it and you all eat it and then frick and chill the hell out.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they used to have sex in front of children back then, there were no bedrooms

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw you don't get to frick momma in front of the kids with just a bundling board for separation

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah rest is for the weak if you aint wounded, we go to war. brother everyday or we all die

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Would prehistoric humans have rest days

        Yes, you can see this behaviour in animals. They don't do jack shit unless they have to.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Would prehistoric humans have rest days?
          yes, one caught animal can feed you and your family for few days, but you HAVE to catch it
          no need to catch another, rest
          you're braindead

          >What could have changed from us being constantly moving to "Oh I need to take a break from life today" mentality.
          Agriculture and domesticated animals makes you do physical shit every day
          Always doing something around the plants and cattle, everyday, from early dawn to dusk
          Overtraining comes from mental illness just like agriculture and domestication of animals, usually PTSP
          Normal people "listen" to their body soreness and weakness and don't do heavy lifting for few days

          >Maybe lifters need rest days, but does normal healthy human exercise require rest days?
          "normal healthy human exercise" is 30 minutes of cardio a day and that's it.
          "Lifters" you're thinking about are blasting roids so they don't need to rest.

          Thats only when animals have an abundance of resources, sure rest is a factor but there are periods of time where they need to be constantly moving.

          >Would prehistoric humans have rest days?
          >rest days from survival
          You are comparing essential needs to survive to working out...

          And?

          >exert yourself once in a blue moon
          >go above and beyond your physical abilities
          >catch a deer, boar, wild animal
          >you and family are fed for next few days
          >no need to catch an animal for next few days

          your mentality is literally a scarcity mentality

          Meat would rot faster if not eaten in time, pre preservation methods would require more exertion then preservation methods.

          >The main point was that rest days are a fabrication relative to the current societal makeup
          No, dumbass. Prehistoric humans exercise and get tired so they lay down until they have energy again.

          Sure, but their period of rest was much smaller then ours.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Sure, but their period of rest was much smaller then ours.
            Nothing to indicate that this is the case. Maybe it was even longer.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That which they considered rest and work were different. Playful activity wouldn't be seen as a chore but it would still factor in to being more exertion then we do.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Would prehistoric humans have rest days?
        yes, one caught animal can feed you and your family for few days, but you HAVE to catch it
        no need to catch another, rest
        you're braindead

        >What could have changed from us being constantly moving to "Oh I need to take a break from life today" mentality.
        Agriculture and domesticated animals makes you do physical shit every day
        Always doing something around the plants and cattle, everyday, from early dawn to dusk
        Overtraining comes from mental illness just like agriculture and domestication of animals, usually PTSP
        Normal people "listen" to their body soreness and weakness and don't do heavy lifting for few days

        >Maybe lifters need rest days, but does normal healthy human exercise require rest days?
        "normal healthy human exercise" is 30 minutes of cardio a day and that's it.
        "Lifters" you're thinking about are blasting roids so they don't need to rest.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >"Lifters" you're thinking about are blasting roids so they don't need to rest.
          If they're lifting heavy they do. The human body does not include squatting 350kg in its playbook and if it does so it needs a shit ton of rest to prepare and recover from it. There's a reason timmy can squat 3x5 @85% for weeks on starting strength but a world class powerlifter will only go above 80% as part of an acute comp prep.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Would prehistoric humans have rest days?
        >rest days from survival
        You are comparing essential needs to survive to working out...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but his body is fricked. I respect him for being so hardcore but I don’t want to obliterate my body because “I’m at war with myself” or some shit. I’m very competitive in my career but I don’t treat fitness like this. He gets off on pushing himself to the absolute limits and being a bit of a masochist and that’s not the template for most people.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Like I said in a previous post, maybe you don't have to go as hard as Goggins, but maintaining a decent baseline of physical activity isn't going to be bad for you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True but having a rest day is not a bad thing or a sign of weakness. I’m a busy person and between job and family it’s difficult getting a 90 min full body work out three times a week and running on the off days while checking off all the other boxes. Taking Sunday off is good for my body and also frees up a couple hours for extra family time or dealing with things that need fixing around the house.

            I’m 3/4 way through Goggins’ audiobook and noticed that he never once mentioned his kid(s). Just said his woman was pregnant, he didn’t love her and that was it. I’m also living for three other people.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Goggins is mentally ill. He has impressive discipline to push himself through very physically (and thus mentally) taxing feats but he is clearly mentally unwell.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing is quite as low iq as worshiping dudes who lived in caves and died in their 40-50s if they even if they had the slim chance to not die during childhood. Definitely sounds like the kind of lifestyle you want to emulate.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > ignoring how we've evolved and functioned over a millenia.

          Your mind has adapted to being a pathetic loser, at a computer and playing with yourself all day. Your body is still in the jungle which is why youre a weak degenerate dyel turbo gay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fwiw I saw somewhere he had like a 3-hour long stretching routine that I assume he does daily and should help recovery. But stretching doesn’t sell like the visibly effortful/hard stuff does so it’s rarely mentioned and you are led to assume he’s only ever doing 1000’s of push-ups and runnings dozens of miles every day.

      Remember pro athletes are training 20-40 hours a week, most people would rather do that over 5-6 days but you could handle a lot if it’s all you do, you build up to it, manage recovery, take test, prp and stem cells if you need.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, Is he moronic? He kinda sounds proud when he says he has no cartilage in his knees left

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    look at squat everyday and see how he looks without a rest day

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Some of the strongest guys on the planet @ WSBB work out 4 days a week only.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You never read his books did you, moron? He normally takes 1 day off each week. So dumb. Frick you

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    anybody copying goggins hates themselves, just like goggins does

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If your training at a very high lvl, rest days are very important.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't it depend more on your goal? Sure if you're looking for quick gains or are training for Comps then I would agree to give the muscles rest time, but if you're training for general fitness, endurance, and practical strength, it seems like you can manage without a lot of rest (Rest mind you, sleep is still important)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much yeah.

        https://i.imgur.com/UHF3YOj.jpg

        Are rest days bullshit? In terms of building practical strength/body ability over size is it better to just work out as much as possible and only rest when your schedule might demand it?

        >Minimal rest days: David Goggins is notorious for his minimal rest days. While most athletes and fitness enthusiasts advocate for regular rest and recovery, Goggins believes in pushing through the pain and discomfort. He often goes weeks, and sometimes even months, without taking a single rest day.

        Keep in my David Goggins have elite lvl genetics to do the insane shit he does. Yes, his mentality is ridiculous, but his genetics allows him to get away with it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Genetics argument is pure cope, is shouldn't ever be used to dissuade people from pursuing the life they want to live. If you trained to reach Goggins level you could at least get close enough to be indistinguishable, if you really want to.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I agree with you. I tend to not bring up genetics around newbies/normies because they will probably use this as an excuse not to train hard.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pretty much all research on rest shows that it is beneficial. I think that an active rest day is much better than a passive one, though. Not stretching out your muscles after they sustained damage from a work out probably doesn't accelerate recovery or help with rebuilding process.

    Also, rest is dependent on what you aim to do. You physically cannot deadlift your 1RM 7days/wk, your nervous system just doesn't allow that, it has to recover. Running and other activities are literally bred into humans for us to be able to do for an insanely long period of time, so there's less of a need for rest especially if someone is highly trained in it.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >you don't build muscle in the gym
    >you destroy muscle in the gym
    >muscle gets built when you are resting.
    Why is that so hard to understand?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely not, if you train hard.

    If you don't need rest days you simply don't train hard.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Go hunting
    >Kill big animal
    >Must weigh at least 10 Gronks
    >Too big to carry around, don't want it to go to waste
    >Set up camp around carcass, spend next few days eating it and scratching each other's backs
    Take me back.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes you can and should pretty much ignore rest days if you just want to be healthy and have a high capacity for physical activity.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like you're in your 20's. When you hit 40 you need rest days. Trust me.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have 2 light/cardio days

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